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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: Exonian on 07 July 2021, 15:11

Title: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: Exonian on 07 July 2021, 15:11
https://youtu.be/aRMDzuEvZfs

Easy peasy!

Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: jaceyboy on 07 July 2021, 15:31
Easy but shocking that you have to retrofit it :huh:
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Post by: Dav3smith on 07 July 2021, 15:31
Would of been easier for one of the biggest car manufacturers on the planet to do this in the first place instead of me having to pi55 about with it.

Lashing out 40K for it to end in a DIY job, just as well I won't be opening the bonnet in the first place.

I've only opened the bonnet on my MK7.5 twice since I've had it and that's to top up the washer fluid, my engineering skills end there.
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: baka on 07 July 2021, 16:31
Nice thanks, the lack of bonnet strut had ruled the MK8 out for me. Not that I plan to get rid of the MK7 any time soon, but at least I know I can get a MK8 when the time comes.
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: Watts on 07 July 2021, 16:57
I've only opened the bonnet on my MK7.5 twice since I've had it and that's to top up the washer fluid, my engineering skills end there.

So if you're not going to use it, why are you bothered?
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Post by: JoeGTI on 07 July 2021, 17:25
While it is blatant cost cutting, honestly there's too much made of it. Average owner opens the bonnet 3 times a year I'd say.
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: Dav3smith on 07 July 2021, 17:35
I've only opened the bonnet on my MK7.5 twice since I've had it and that's to top up the washer fluid, my engineering skills end there.

So if you're not going to use it, why are you bothered?
I didn't say I was bothered but why are you bothered that I might be bothered?

Now you've mentioned it; I'd be bothered for the forty thousand pound cost and the the fact that the part has got the necessary infrastructure in place to put a gas strut in place instead of substituting it for a cheaper alternative but honestly I'm not bothered now I've thought even more about it.
Have a nice day. :smiley:
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: massimo23 on 07 July 2021, 18:37
I installed the gas bonnet on my Golf 8 only to remove it.I found out that it was hitting on the coolant tank. I was sent different parts from Dark Ice Design but none of it helped.
Here is a video i made that shows what happens when i close the boot:
https://youtube.com/shorts/lI86nHzabDs?feature=share
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: Dav3smith on 07 July 2021, 19:03
I installed the gas bonnet on my Golf 8 only to remove it.I found out that it was hitting on the coolant tank. I was sent different parts from Dark Ice Design but none of it helped.
Here is a video i made that shows what happens when i close the boot:
https://youtube.com/shorts/lI86nHzabDs?feature=share
You make a great point here, I'd also imagine warranty claims potentially jeopardised if there is evidence of tinkering under the bonnet, especially if it results in parts impacting on other parts. Such a simple thing could be used against you, such is the world we live in.
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Post by: king monkey on 07 July 2021, 19:06
That’s a real shame. Thanks for the video. I wonder if all the struts do this?
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Post by: Watts on 07 July 2021, 19:22
I've only opened the bonnet on my MK7.5 twice since I've had it and that's to top up the washer fluid, my engineering skills end there.

So if you're not going to use it, why are you bothered?
I didn't say I was bothered but why are you bothered that I might be bothered?

Now you've mentioned it; I'd be bothered for the forty thousand pound cost and the the fact that the part has got the necessary infrastructure in place to put a gas strut in place instead of substituting it for a cheaper alternative but honestly I'm not bothered now I've thought even more about it.
Have a nice day. :smiley:

Re-read your own post, I didn't quote it all but it does come across as being bothered about it! I'm not bothered as to whether or not you are bothered but I bothered to ask why your seemed bothered :laugh:
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: Talk-torque on 07 July 2021, 21:33
If you watch the video while the guy is closing the bonnet after completing the install, you can see that the strut is going to end up clashing with the coolant header tank. VW possibly raised the design position of the header tank after the gas strut was deleted. The gas strut is flexible enough to bend over the header tank, but that bending will cause it to fail quickly and it will be rubbing the header tank which may result in a leak.

A bit more research needed on this mod!
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: massimo23 on 08 July 2021, 00:16
I was messing with this for a few days and I asked myself is it really worth the hassle to install this when I open the bonnet a couple times a year? Then what if something gets damaged? What about the insurance, could this cause problems if you had a frontal accident? Remember the crash tests have been done without the gas strut. So I went with option Forget about it :laugh:
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Post by: valentino on 13 August 2021, 18:11
Has any one fitted a gas strut without the complication of the compromise on the  coolant tank?
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Post by: ajmoir36 on 14 August 2021, 01:06
Has any one fitted a gas strut without the complication of the compromise on the  coolant tank?

There are a few people on vwroc that have done it. Not sure if it’s the same.
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: valentino on 14 August 2021, 12:11
Kristian Kassinen <sales@darkicedesigns.com>
Fri 13/08/2021 20:18
Hi,

The kit used to touch the top of the coolant tank. We now have a spacer block they moves the strut away from the coolant tank.  If anyone has an original kit please can you let them know to get in touch with us and we will send out a spacer to them :)

Thanks,
Kristian

Team @ Dark Ice Designs mobile
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Post by: king monkey on 14 August 2021, 12:50
This is good to know. Thanks for posting.
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Post by: fredgroves on 14 August 2021, 21:45
Isn't the coolant tank on the other side on the clubby? Seem to remember that from the volkswizard video about the gti vs the clubby.
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: Exonian on 15 August 2021, 08:41
The Clubsport and the R are on opposite sides I think(?)
I’m sure the Clubsport and S3 share a similar layout but the R is different. Can’t quite remember now, my memory is getting shaky! Funny, I can remember detail differences on mk2 Golfs from 30 years ago but can’t remember anything recent  :grin:
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Post by: king monkey on 15 August 2021, 09:06
The Clubsport and the R are on opposite sides I think(?)
I’m sure the Clubsport and S3 share a similar layout but the R is different. Can’t quite remember now, my memory is getting shaky! Funny, I can remember detail differences on mk2 Golfs from 30 years ago but can’t remember anything recent  :grin:

That makes sense as there’s been no problems reported on there about fitting.
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: Exonian on 18 August 2021, 13:53
Just to clear up about coolant tanks, I have just double checked as I doubted my ageing memory and the GTI, R and Clubsport have their header tanks in the same (offside) position.
For some reason the R and Clubsport have their windscreen washer reservoirs on opposite sides though. The Clubsport’s (and S3 from memory) is on the nearside and the R has it on the offside in front of the coolant expansion tank.
So ignore my earlier post and the bonnet lifter will catch on all of the models unless the spacer is fitted.

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Post by: fredgroves on 18 August 2021, 22:24
I'm glad you managed to remember what I couldn't  :grin:
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Post by: Carl_45 on 17 September 2021, 11:38
Racing line have just released a gas bonnet strut….

 https://www.racingline.com/gas-strut-bonnet-hood (https://www.racingline.com/gas-strut-bonnet-hood)
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Post by: king monkey on 17 September 2021, 19:43
And here’s Mr Chapple fitting it!

https://youtu.be/a0z2RrHn2io
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: willni on 17 September 2021, 22:11
It's quite interesting really, Volkswagen saw it fit to remove fair simple and cheap features of their best selling car to save costs, but they've added another supermini SUV to their line up that is a massively niche market. (T-Cross, Taigo, T-Roc, T-Roc Cabriolet :sick:).

Then have two saloons that are the same size (Passat and Arteon), competing against each other. (I did see a Arteon Estate the other day, very nice car by the way).

It's becoming more and more evident that Volkswagen is getting closer to becoming where Skoda used to sit in the VAG Family, as Skoda and Seat both continually proving to be better looking and better value.

I really like the mk8 and see a lot of potential for a 8.5 to be exceptional, but their budgetary constraints and software really need sorted.

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Post by: fredgroves on 17 September 2021, 22:15
I don't understand the hysteria about the bonnet strut...
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Post by: joet on 18 September 2021, 07:54
I don't understand the hysteria about the bonnet strut...

Totally agree.
I've raised the bonnet maybe twice in five months of ownership and using the manual strut is no big deal.

Whilst on the one hand it might seem like penny pinching, on the other you get features such as the brilliant IQ Lights as standard. I know which I'd rather have
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: king monkey on 18 September 2021, 08:19
I don't understand the hysteria about the bonnet strut...

Totally agree.
I've raised the bonnet maybe twice in five months of ownership and using the manual strut is no big deal.

Whilst on the one hand it might seem like penny pinching, on the other you get features such as the brilliant IQ Lights as standard. I know which I'd rather have

Hmmmmm. Tough one that. A part that I could fit for £90 if I want or some ultra expensive IQ lights as standard. I’m going to have to come back to you on this one. It’s a close call.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: SRGTD on 18 September 2021, 08:43
Whilst the gas bonnet strut is nice to have, I’d happily forego it for a set of IQ lights :smiley:.

My Polo GTI+ has a manual bonnet prop. I open my bonnet each time I wash the car to dry those concealed areas that can’t be dried with the bonnet closed, and for regular under bonnet fluid level checking. So it probably gets opened every couple of weeks, and I don’t really find it to be a hardship to have to use the manual prop.
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Post by: Guzzle on 18 September 2021, 08:54
And here’s Mr Chapple fitting it!

https://youtu.be/a0z2RrHn2io

Sorry for going a little OT, but I much prefer his new wheels to those dreadful Vossen things  :huh:
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Post by: SRGTD on 18 September 2021, 09:34
And here’s Mr Chapple fitting it!

https://youtu.be/a0z2RrHn2io

Sorry for going a little OT, but I much prefer his new wheels to those dreadful Vossen things  :huh:

I prefer them too. IMO the Racingline R360’s are a great wheel in a nice simple design. Not surprisingly, Racingline have a set of these on their own mk8 GTI, in silver rather than the anthracite version that Andrew Chapple has on his GTI; 

(https://i.postimg.cc/KjvC9bZd/5-ECB688-A-4881-4746-AA03-F9684-B0-FF996.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Post by: king monkey on 18 September 2021, 09:38
And here’s Mr Chapple fitting it!

https://youtu.be/a0z2RrHn2io

Sorry for going a little OT, but I much prefer his new wheels to those dreadful Vossen things  :huh:

Vossens really weren’t to my taste either. Though they say we’ll on the car. New ones are spot on.
Title: Re: Gas bonnet strut anyone?
Post by: fredgroves on 18 September 2021, 10:05
I don't understand the hysteria about the bonnet strut...

Totally agree.
I've raised the bonnet maybe twice in five months of ownership and using the manual strut is no big deal.

Whilst on the one hand it might seem like penny pinching, on the other you get features such as the brilliant IQ Lights as standard. I know which I'd rather have

The IQ lights are totally amazing. Its been a while since I've driven at night, but the other night I did and was thinking to myself these are epic!
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Post by: Carl_45 on 18 September 2021, 10:22

Sorry for going a little OT, but I much prefer his new wheels to those dreadful Vossen things  :huh:

Me too. I’d seen those wheels on racing line before and like them. I’d consider if I’d gone with a clubsport over the 45.

I think with the gas strut, it’s seen as lowering the build quality.  Only time will tell on the overall quality.

It’s not just VW, I’m driving a bland, boring 67 plate focus titanium 1.5 diesel whilst waiting for my 45. I came from a 7.5 GTD and the focus is utterly awful, the build quality is a disgrace from Ford, the rear door seals have fallen off and would hang out the bottom of the door, these got replaced by Ford and it happened again within 2 months. It’s done 37k miles and feels like a 15 year old car.

Sorry for the rant…. I hate that focus  :grin:
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Post by: Exonian on 18 September 2021, 22:25
It’s reassuring to know that despite the dashboard gremlins and VW Transporter quality of door panels that a mk8 still isn’t as sh!t as a Focus.


Those freebie R360’s look well on Volkswizard’s car. Much better than those Vossen eyesores.


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Post by: JoeGTI on 18 September 2021, 23:00
I can’t understand Mr. volkswizard’s love for the vosen wheels. It doesn’t ring true, as a supposed VW OEM-look fanboy, they just look wrong on the car. To my eyes they’re an abomination, but “maybe” they look great in the metal?

The Racing Line wheels are a massive improvement. Hell, it looks loads better too when he puts the prets on it for track days.
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Post by: Exonian on 18 September 2021, 23:06
Having his pockets greased might have something to do with it.

And yes, the car looked really good on the T-Roc Prets too.
I very nearly bought a set of those when I got my Clubsport but decided to cheap out owing to the state of my local roads last winter.
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Post by: JoeGTI on 18 September 2021, 23:12
Yep, sadly I think it could be a pocket greasing thing.

Then again, any time he polls for opinions on instagram, the Vossens seem to fare very favourably among his followers! I just can’t see what they’re seeing…
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Post by: Exonian on 18 September 2021, 23:50
“Influencers” and sheep maybe?
The royalties and kickbacks these guys and girls earn must come from the positivity generated and extra revenue taken by those influenced enough to part with their cash.
David Beckham didn’t make millions by dressing like a twit for no reason  :whistle: