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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: O2Doc on 14 January 2018, 10:45
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Hi everyone
Thought I should join the forum seeing as a brand new GTi is coming to our household. I'm not a GTi virgin, having had one from brand new in 2005 (MK5) in manual and running it for 7 years (110k). That was a fantastic car and hoping this will serve us well too. The MK5 was highly specced:
Bi-xenons
18' Monza II alloys
Leather
Rear side airbags
Winter pack
Stage 1 JabbaSport remap at 50k (which led to needing a new blow off valve!)
Forge air induction kit
The new one is actually for my parents (Speccing a 1.5 TSi with LED headlights just made no financial sense!). So I have ordered a MK7.5 GTi DSG in Isaac Blue with the following options:
Climate windscreen
Rear view camera
I would have got a PP if it was for myself but my excitement is taken care of these days by my F80 M3 :wink:
DTD (through which we have bought a Merc and an Audi) came through with the best deal that no carwow dealer could get within £1.2k of. So a 100 mile trip to Kent will be well worth it.
Car is sitting at stage 2 and I have been told to expect a 16 week wait! As soon as it arrives it will be getting a coating of Gtechniq G1 Smartglass and a machine polish and wax :nerd: (by me!). And probably a switch to Michelin PS4 if the Bridgestones are as bad as everyone makes them out to be (hoping they will change to Contis in 2018 - that would be a nice surprise!).
Can anybody direct me to the latest owners manual (I know one can get it through the VW website, but not having a VIN/reg yet means I cannot (yet)). Thanks!
EDIT - Forgot to add I have a full VCDS system so if anyone needs a hand around Nottingham....more than happy to help out :)
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Re the manual, find a gti on a forecourt and pop that reg in the vw website
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Re the manual, find a gti on a forecourt and pop that reg in the vw website
Good tip thanks...I'll go hunting for a MK7.5 GTi in the car park!
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Re the manual, find a gti on a forecourt and pop that reg in the vw website
Good tip thanks...I'll go hunting for a MK7.5 GTi in the car park!
Or do a search in the used cars section of VW’s website. Plenty on there to pick a reg plate from and saves hunting around a car park in the cold. You’ll need to click on a specific car to get the reg. no. as the plate will probably be covered up in the photos with a Das Welt Auto plate.
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Collected my PP on Friday and it has the hateful bridgestones.
Very squirmy!
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Oh I didn’t realise all 18’s came with Bridgestones.
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Nothing wrong with the Bridgestones!! Drive sensibly and they are fine. Also be careful with Gtechnic stuff on your glass as it causes judder. Known problem apparently on mk7 golfs.
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Nothing wrong with the Bridgestones!! Drive sensibly and they are fine. Also be careful with Gtechnic stuff on your glass as it causes judder. Known problem apparently on mk7 golfs.
Good advice...I shall research some more re: Gtechniq. I've used smartglass on a BMW, Audi and Merc and all seem amazing and totally judder free! Perhaps its application related!
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Lots of posts on here about the merits (or lack of) of Bridgestone tyres.
They're not the best by any stretch, and i wouldn't put them on when it's time to change. But i certainly wouldn't bin a brand new set.
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Don’t put any of those sealants on your windscreen unless you like squeaky juddering wipers. The bridgestones are dirt but I’m tight and there’s no way I’d bin a new set either. Just be careful in the wet - they’ll be ok in the summer.
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Lots of posts on here about the merits (or lack of) of Bridgestone tyres.
They're not the best by any stretch, and i wouldn't put them on when it's time to change. But i certainly wouldn't bin a brand new set.
Certainly wasn’t planning on binning them...eBay is your friend :) Will read around and see what people say. I might get a set of winter alloys/tyres anyway in which case just keep them for the summer.
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Don’t put any of those sealants on your windscreen unless you like squeaky juddering wipers. The bridgestones are dirt but I’m tight and there’s no way I’d bin a new set either. Just be careful in the wet - they’ll be ok in the summer.
Is the juddering VW/GTi related or is this something you have universally found? As I said I have G1 on three cars and there is no squeaking/juddering or anything. Barely need to use the wipers in the rain above 40 mph anyway.
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Don’t put any of those sealants on your windscreen unless you like squeaky juddering wipers. The bridgestones are dirt but I’m tight and there’s no way I’d bin a new set either. Just be careful in the wet - they’ll be ok in the summer.
Is the juddering VW/GTi related or is this something you have universally found? As I said I have G1 on three cars and there is no squeaking/juddering or anything. Barely need to use the wipers in the rain above 40 mph anyway.
The standard fit wiper blades are poor and judder, best replaced with Bosch Aerotwins which are far superior. I use G-techniq C2v3 on my glass including the windscreen with excellent results :smiley:
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Don’t put any of those sealants on your windscreen unless you like squeaky juddering wipers. The bridgestones are dirt but I’m tight and there’s no way I’d bin a new set either. Just be careful in the wet - they’ll be ok in the summer.
Is the juddering VW/GTi related or is this something you have universally found? As I said I have G1 on three cars and there is no squeaking/juddering or anything. Barely need to use the wipers in the rain above 40 mph anyway.
The standard fit wiper blades are poor and judder, best replaced with Bosch Aerotwins which are far superior. I use G-techniq C2v3 on my glass including the windscreen with excellent results :smiley:
That's useful to know. Sounds like people putting the G1 on without proper prep: Glass needs to be clayed, polished (preferably with a DA), cleaned with IPA before it is applied and obviously rubbish wipers...runs away to see if I can get a set of PIAA wipers for the GTi :smiley:
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Lots of posts on here about the merits (or lack of) of Bridgestone tyres.
They're not the best by any stretch, and i wouldn't put them on when it's time to change. But i certainly wouldn't bin a brand new set.
Certainly wasn’t planning on binning them...eBay is your friend :) Will read around and see what people say. I might get a set of winter alloys/tyres anyway in which case just keep them for the summer.
Assuming yours arrives some time in the spring, i'd stick with the Bridgestone's for the time being and see how you go. They're really not that bad as a summer tyre in the warmer weather, it's in poor conditions when they're at their worst.
You could always think of swapping to winters later in the year. This would be a better move to me, as even if you swap immediately to PS4's you won't have as much grip as a proper winter tyre in the harsher winter conditions.
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Don’t put any of those sealants on your windscreen unless you like squeaky juddering wipers. The bridgestones are dirt but I’m tight and there’s no way I’d bin a new set either. Just be careful in the wet - they’ll be ok in the summer.
Is the juddering VW/GTi related or is this something you have universally found? As I said I have G1 on three cars and there is no squeaking/juddering or anything. Barely need to use the wipers in the rain above 40 mph anyway.
It's something I've universally found tbh. Personally I avoid using anything on the windscreen other than a basic glass cleaner.
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Don’t put any of those sealants on your windscreen unless you like squeaky juddering wipers. The bridgestones are dirt but I’m tight and there’s no way I’d bin a new set either. Just be careful in the wet - they’ll be ok in the summer.
Is the juddering VW/GTi related or is this something you have universally found? As I said I have G1 on three cars and there is no squeaking/juddering or anything. Barely need to use the wipers in the rain above 40 mph anyway.
It's something I've universally found tbh. Personally I avoid using anything on the windscreen other than a basic glass cleaner.
Have you tried using a DA polisher to polish the windscreen before putting product on?
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Seeing as the car is for the OP's parents, who were thinking of a 1.5 TSi, I suspect the standard fit Bridgestone's probably won't be of too much concern!
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Seeing as the car is for the OP's parents, who were thinking of a 1.5 TSi, I suspect the standard fit Bridgestone's probably won't be of too much concern!
You never know, get that GTI badge in front of them might bring the inner hooligan out :whistle:
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Speccing a 1.5 TSi with LED headlights just made no financial sense!). So I have ordered a MK7.5 GTi DSG in Isaac Blue with the following options:
Climate windscreen
Rear view camera
It might have made financial sense depending on what other equipment that the GTI has as base were things that they wanted...
I fully agree that choosing a R line and adding LED lights doesn't make much sense, but if you had chosen a SE 1.5TSI DSG plus LED's, met paint, rear camera, climate screen its £25535 (RRP) vs £31670 for the GTI DSG plus met paint, rear camera and climate screen.... thats 6 grand different!
The residuals won't be significantly different either plus the fuel bill, insurance and road tax will be a lot less too...
I'm not saying I'd be happy with the SE, just commenting on your logic ;-)
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The juddering after application has nothing to do with who applied it or the method. It's apparently down to the shape of the screen on the mk7 and it also happens on A3s too. My detailer won't apply one of the gtechnic products to any mk7 golf windscreen, can't remember which one though. As for standard wipers being rubbish that's a load of nonsense too. I've got the originals on mine and after 10k miles they still work perfectly!
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I'm not sure what the detailer put on my windows last year but it is still working and I have no problems with the wipers at all. The rear wiper will judder sometimes but only on the first wipe and is ok after that.
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I've got gtechnic on mine and mine doesn't judder either but I can't for the life of me remember what stuff was put on. On my gtd the wipers bounced all over and that was even after putting me Bosch ones on.
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The juddering after application has nothing to do with who applied it or the method. It's apparently down to the shape of the screen on the mk7 and it also happens on A3s too. My detailer won't apply one of the gtechnic products to any mk7 golf windscreen, can't remember which one though. As for standard wipers being rubbish that's a load of nonsense too. I've got the originals on mine and after 10k miles they still work perfectly!
Pleased to hear your wipers are good but their being poor is not rubbish. Google it and you'll find plenty of people with issues. The Bosch Aerotwins seem to resolve the issue and are well recommended. They certainly worked for me! Also, G-techniq C2v3 is excellent on glass.
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Speccing a 1.5 TSi with LED headlights just made no financial sense!). So I have ordered a MK7.5 GTi DSG in Isaac Blue with the following options:
Climate windscreen
Rear view camera
It might have made financial sense depending on what other equipment that the GTI has as base were things that they wanted...
I fully agree that choosing a R line and adding LED lights doesn't make much sense, but if you had chosen a SE 1.5TSI DSG plus LED's, met paint, rear camera, climate screen its £25535 (RRP) vs £31670 for the GTI DSG plus met paint, rear camera and climate screen.... thats 6 grand different!
The residuals won't be significantly different either plus the fuel bill, insurance and road tax will be a lot less too...
I'm not saying I'd be happy with the SE, just commenting on your logic ;-)
It was always going to be an R-line never an SE! Yeah R-Line with all the options that I’m getting with the GTi through DTD was about £1k difference. Probably make that up in residuals for it being a GTi.
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That does make sense if the R line base spec is what you wanted... similarly as I said, not so much if its got things you'll never want or use.
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The juddering after application has nothing to do with who applied it or the method. It's apparently down to the shape of the screen on the mk7 and it also happens on A3s too. My detailer won't apply one of the gtechnic products to any mk7 golf windscreen, can't remember which one though. As for standard wipers being rubbish that's a load of nonsense too. I've got the originals on mine and after 10k miles they still work perfectly!
Pleased to hear your wipers are good but their being poor is not rubbish. Google it and you'll find plenty of people with issues. The Bosch Aerotwins seem to resolve the issue and are well recommended. They certainly worked for me! Also, G-techniq C2v3 is excellent on glass.
Early mk7s were terrible for the wipers but then later ones were ok. I know Gtechnic stuff is good but one of the glass products causes judder.
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Having read around on the Gtechniq issue, sounds like there are a number of things going on.
-perhaps the windscreen shape is not ideal / although really how much difference can there be in the shape of a windscreen?
- perhaps there are different models of wipers dependent on when the car was made
- there definitely will be a difference in the way people prep their windscreens prior to application
On balance I’m willing to risk it and eat my words. With enough people on various forums suggesting they have no problems with juddering I’m going to give it a go!
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Here is the same spec car...detailed (not by me!)
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=401881
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Here is the same spec car...detailed (not by me!)
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=401881
Never had a car detailed, so how much would a job like that cost?
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Here is the same spec car...detailed (not by me!)
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=401881
Never had a car detailed, so how much would a job like that cost?
Here's my old GTI a few year ago. New car prep was £400
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=321584
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Here is the same spec car...detailed (not by me!)
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=401881
Never had a car detailed, so how much would a job like that cost?
Looks good! I’ll save my £400 and do it myself!
Here's my old GTI a few year ago. New car prep was £400
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=321584
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I’ve had wiper judder with some glass products then not others, but prefer not to take the chance so the front windscreen is kept free of products. I found Gtechniq C2v3 to be ok (no judder) on windscreen as have many others, but I know of plenty that have had issues with other Gtechniq glass coatings resulting in, or compounding wiper judder, and had the coating removed. Oem Valeo wipers are renowned for being prone to juddering, much more so than Bosch Aerotwin blades which I always switch to and have never had a judder issue with.
As for new car detail, if you can do it yourself great! For those that can’t, it’s worth a few hundred quid to get a pro to do it and give your new car a great start and make regular maintenance washes easier.
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mine juddered for a while but mentioned it to vw when it went in for summut else and all's been ok since, touch wood...
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So I contacted Gtechniq about the juddering issue and as I thought they confirmed that it is technique related :)
Thank you for your email
We have heard of this being mentioned on some forums but it is not a direct issue with G1 product itself. As you correctly say, it will be down to the application process (prep, application & residue removal)
We also recommend cleaning the wiper blades with IPA and putting a small amount of G1 on the blades
It is also essential to apply G1 in a garage or indoor space and leave for atleast 12hours to cure (leaving the blades up if possible)
Best way to apply is below
Machine polish the glass or use our G4 polish by hand
Clean away residue with a damp cloth
Clean glass with our PW, G6 or IPA to ensure glass is squeeky clean
Apply first layer of G1 in circular motion
Leave for 5mins
Apply second layer of G1 in a sideways motion
Leave 5mins
Apply 3rd and final layer in long vertical line from top to bottom
Leave 15-20mins
Remove residue with G2 in very small sections (approx 200mm x 200mm)
Perform a final wipe with IPA or G6 glass cleaner to ensure residue is fully removed and looking clear
Clean and coot blades
Leave blades up and cure overnight
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Err sorry but they are feeding you bulls4it. The guy from gtechnic who my detailer spoke to said it was a common issue on mk7 golfs and that they were aware of. They won't readily admit that in a random email and naturally will blame someone else. At the end of the day it's irrelevant anyway as it's your car and you'll do whatever you want to protect it. 👍
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Err sorry but they are feeding you bulls4it. The guy from gtechnic who my detailer spoke to said it was a common issue on mk7 golfs and that they were aware of. They won't readily admit that in a random email and naturally will blame someone else. At the end of the day it's irrelevant anyway as it's your car and you'll do whatever you want to protect it. 👍
I’ll give it a go my way and see if it works. Your right they aren’t going to turn around and say it doesn’t work on Golfs. Equally your detailer (dare I say it) may not have the skills required to get the product to work :wink:
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If it’s so difficult to apply that a even a pro detailer can’t manage it (granted, skill may differ) then begs the question as to the value of the product to the end user. :grin:
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If it’s so difficult to apply that a even a pro detailer can’t manage it (granted, skill may differ) then begs the question as to the value of the product to the end user. :grin:
Well having put it on 3 cars (BMW, Audi - glorified VW and Merc) let me tell you it is incredible stuff. Not needing to use your wipers above 40 mph and guaranteed lasting power of 30k miles...is not to be sniffed at. It would be a great shame if i doesn't work on this car. Having said that there are enough posts out there of people with Golfs saying it works fine to reassure me that it will be fine :smiley:
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Err sorry but they are feeding you bulls4it. The guy from gtechnic who my detailer spoke to said it was a common issue on mk7 golfs and that they were aware of. They won't readily admit that in a random email and naturally will blame someone else. At the end of the day it's irrelevant anyway as it's your car and you'll do whatever you want to protect it. 👍
I’ll give it a go my way and see if it works. Your right they aren’t going to turn around and say it doesn’t work on Golfs. Equally your detailer (dare I say it) may not have the skills required to get the product to work :wink:
Considering the guy is a professional detailer and not some random bloke off a forum and also having seen the cars he gets and the results he gets I have no reason to doubt his skill level at application.
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If it’s so difficult to apply that a even a pro detailer can’t manage it (granted, skill may differ) then begs the question as to the value of the product to the end user. :grin:
Well having put it on 3 cars (BMW, Audi - glorified VW and Merc) let me tell you it is incredible stuff. Not needing to use your wipers above 40 mph and guaranteed lasting power of 30k miles...is not to be sniffed at. It would be a great shame if i doesn't work on this car. Having said that there are enough posts out there of people with Golfs saying it works fine to reassure me that it will be fine :smiley:
The cars you've applied it to are not mk7 golfs which are the screens that cause the issue so of course your BMW and Merc will be fine. Yours may be ok on your golf and that's great but others have experienced judder.
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If it’s so difficult to apply that a even a pro detailer can’t manage it (granted, skill may differ) then begs the question as to the value of the product to the end user. :grin:
Well having put it on 3 cars (BMW, Audi - glorified VW and Merc) let me tell you it is incredible stuff. Not needing to use your wipers above 40 mph and guaranteed lasting power of 30k miles...is not to be sniffed at. It would be a great shame if i doesn't work on this car. Having said that there are enough posts out there of people with Golfs saying it works fine to reassure me that it will be fine :smiley:
I’m not doubting the effectiveness of the product in any way, that’s not was was said, I was making a serious point in a lighthearted manner. I’m saying if it’s that problematic to apply on Golfs, that even a skilled pro detailer struggles do it (as you yourself implied), let alone an amateur, then that would massively undermine its value. It could be the best product in the world but if you can’t get it applied and doing the job it’s designed to do properly, then it becomes effectively useless. I do know of quite a few that have had issues on Golfs with it to the point it’s been removed and never reapplied. Hopefully you won’t be one of those people. I hope you get it applied properly on your golf and reap the benefits that you already have experienced on other marques.
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I guess only time will tell...as I said I shall report back with either a success story or an epic fail.
On a separate note...do dealers still let you choose the Reg of the new car? VW/Audi never seem to have given me a choice whereas others have.
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I guess only time will tell...as I said I shall report back with either a success story or an epic fail.
On a separate note...do dealers still let you choose the Reg of the new car? VW/Audi never seem to have given me a choice whereas others have.
Hopefully it will be a success story.
Some dealers will give you a choice of reg numbers, others don’t. Ask your dealer if you can select one and see if they will oblige. I never care what reg I get so just take what they give me.
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I've picked my last three reg numbers but I know some dealers don't allow it.
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I was given a list of about 15 to pick from last year.
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Contacted the DTD dealer and was told they use an automated system and the car will be allocated the next available number. Oh well.
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I've never had a choice of registration with any of my cars. Just accepted what came.
For those that were able to choose, was this offered or did you have to ask?
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Contacted the DTD dealer and was told they use an automated system and the car will be allocated the next available number. Oh well.
JCB Medway? Yeah they don’t, probably as they deal with such a high volume of broker/fleet sales. That’s where I got my R from. Embrace the randomness of the reg! Or, if you’re bothered by it get a personal plate.
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I've never had a choice of registration with any of my cars. Just accepted what came.
For those that were able to choose, was this offered or did you have to ask?
Offered
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i was given a list of about 40 to choose from..
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We were given a list of 20 or so to choose from. (Gave, not asked). Luckily, one ended "VWS" which seemed easy to remember for our PP gti :smiley:
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Just an update:
We are in phase 3 now with a confirmed build date of 19/2/18.
I have also decided against a coating of wax and instead will be going for a sealant (Gtechniq EXO or CSL - still undecided) after the full polish!
The Michelin PS4 are still on the cards...only £95/tyre at camskill currently. I wonder how much one can get for a set of Bridgestone tyres that have done 200 miles?
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Time to change my Bridgestones on the front after 10K, so after some research...
I ordered two Michelin PS4s (18 inch) from Blackcircles yesterday.......£202 total fitted for the two.
Offer on until end of Jan using code Janten.
(I've always used Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S replacements on my last 3 Golfs so will be interested to see if the PS4s are really transformative).
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Time to change my Bridgestones on the front after 10K, so after some research...
I ordered two Michelin PS4s (18 inch) from Blackcircles yesterday.......£202 total fitted for the two.
Offer on until end of Jan using code Janten.
(I've always used Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S replacements on my last 3 Golfs so will be interested to see if the PS4s are really transformative).
I’ve got a set on the Mrs’s A4 and they are an excellent tyre, you won’t be disappointed!
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Ordered a Golf GTI performance for delivery 1st March as the car is sitting at the port.
5dr metallic black 19” wheels and dark tints.
Wanted a sunroof and reverse camera but didn’t want to wait any longer.
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Just a quick update....fired up the app today and it showed the car as being built and being in transit! The expected build date was 19/2/18!
Just spoken to online chat and I think it should be here within 4 weeks....so first half of March is on it seems! :smiley:
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Just a quick question people...
Can I expect the new car to come with a week’s worth of insurance?
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Just a quick question people...
Can I expect the new car to come with a week’s worth of insurance?
You get 5 days complimentary insurance, you have to phone vw insurance up yourself day before picking up car so cover note is sent to dealer so they can let you drive it away.
Very handy I used this as I wanted to change insurance companies a few days after picking up my car.
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Just a quick question people...
Can I expect the new car to come with a week’s worth of insurance?
You get 5 days complimentary insurance, you have to phone vw insurance up yourself day before picking up car so cover note is sent to dealer so they can let you drive it away.
Very handy I used this as I wanted to change insurance companies a few days after picking up my car.
Thank you for the reply. That is very useful to know :)
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I hadn’t realised that Step 5 - in transit was actually giving me a countdown of when the car is expected to arrive at the dealer. It went from 4 weeks last week, to 3 weeks at the start of this week and now we are on 10 days! Happy days!
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How exciting...just spoke to VW CS (who I must say are superb and very helpful - more so than the DTD has been so far!).
Turns out the car was loaded on the Makassar Highway at Emden port yesterday and is due to arrive in Sheerness today! (They only told me when the ship set off...I found out the rest myself!).
Here it is: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:413386/imo:9235426/mmsi:353969000/vessel:MAKASSAR%20HIGHWAY
Its going to be a little bit of a wait till 1/3/18!
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Not wanting to piss on your chips or anything but if it's just been loaded onto a ship yesterday you'll be lucky to have it on 1st March. It can take anywhere upto two weeks for it to clear customs at dockside and then it needs taken to your dealer, prepped etc etc. You might be lucky and get it but don't get your hopes up yet.
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Not wanting to piss on your chips or anything but if it's just been loaded onto a ship yesterday you'll be lucky to have it on 1st March. It can take anywhere upto two weeks for it to clear customs at dockside and then it needs taken to your dealer, prepped etc etc. You might be lucky and get it but don't get your hopes up yet.
Understood. Tbh not in any hurry to pick it up as initially we were expecting mid-April so anything prior to that is a bonus.
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Plan for the worst and hope VW come up trumps haha
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Stiffed by another Vw dealer ...... Got told a new car order would be 3-4 months so they found me a car at the docks uk side. Agreed to buy it. Got given the tracker number but it showed it still in transit. 3 weeks later it’s still in transit, spoke to dealer and they expected the car this week.
Went on the app and spoke to customer services who told me it was on route to the docks in Germany. Highly unlikely to be here for March 1st. And I’m without a car since last week.
Why are Vw dealer so poor to deal with.
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They haven't found you a built car more likely they've amended an existing order for you. Ask your supplying dealer to provide you with a car until your new ones here.
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Yes would certainly be asking for a loan car. My dealer lent me a car when waiting for my GTI and had sold my GTD about 3 weeks before delivery. All I had to do was ask.
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Well mine arrived in the UK yesterday according to the tracker. It really is down to the UK customs now to clear it and it should be delivered on time!
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Ordered my GTi PP early November .
It arrived at dealers yesterday :grin:
Arranged pick up 3 March
Tornado red 5 dr DSG
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Car has arrived at the dealers on Tuesday 20/2/18!
I have arranged for collection on 10/3/18! :laugh:
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Picked it up this morning. You know you have a quality car, or maybe just a soft spot for a GTi, when you drive it and it leaves you with a big smile on your face. Especially as the other car is a M3!
Great work VW...cannot wait to detail it...then pics!!
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congratulations :)