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Title: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 18 October 2015, 21:23
After having my R a couple of weeks now, I've finally managed to complete its first detail.  Had to be done over the course of 2 weekends but now complete.

Prior to collection, I'd asked the dealer not to touch it after removing transport stickers, so there was a lot of glue residue along the roof line, lower sills B pillars, and on the windscreen. All that came off with the decontamination phase -  wash - IronX - Tardis.  Was going to clay it but not necessary.  Instead the car will be clayed and polished next spring after a winter of salt and grime has taken its toll.

Stage 1 - Wash and Decontamination:
Snow foam pre-wash
2 bucket wash (actually 3 buckets)
Tar and glue removal
Iron and fallout removal.

I started out by giving the car a thorough clean starting with snow foam pre-wash, followed by a 3-bucket wash. 

Products used for the wash/cleaning
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Washing
When first starting out with detailing, the important thing is to get into a good washing and drying regime first, before moving onto other stages. The main aim is to have ‘minimum contact’ with the paintwork to keep swirling and marring to a minimum. A poor technique can inflict a lot of damage to the paintwork. A good technique can prevent unnecessary damage to the paintwork. To help achieve this, I always start the process with snow foam using a proper lance, many skip this stage but I think it is a crucial first step.

Snow foam
Valet Pro Advanced Snow Foam
AP Snow Foam lance
Karcher pressure washer

As said I always start my cleaning regime with snow foam. IMO it’s the best ‘no contact; way to shift the initial dirt and grime on the surface of the car.  First I give the car a quick spray with water using the jet washed on low pressure, just to wet the surface. Using about an inch of snow foam shampoo, I top up the lance bottle with tepid water and attach to the jet washer. After adjusting the dilution dial and spray nozzle, I snow foam the entire car and let it dwell for about 5 minutes. Whist the snow foam is doing its work, I fill up my - shampoo, rinse and wheel buckets ready for the hand wash. After 5 mins, I jet wash off all the remaining snow foam starting from the roof down and ensuring the car is well rinsed.  The jet washer lance is kept at a 45 degree angle to the car and a few feet away to reduce the risk of any damage. 

Valet Pro Advanced Snow Foam
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3-Bucket wash
Valet Pro Bilberry Wheel Cleaner
Dodo Juice Supernatural shampoo
WoWo lambswool mitt
Wheel Woolies
WoWo Wheel mitt

I have 2 buckets with grit guards – one for shampoo, the other plain rinse water.  3rd bucket is shampoo used for the wheels only. Grit guards are optional but they help to release grit embedded in the wash mitt and ensure that the grit stays at the bottom of the bucket instead of swirling around risking getting back into the mitt and therefore back onto the paintwork.

Wheels
I always start with the wheels first. This way you avoid wheel debris getting onto the body of the car, once it’s clean. I spray wheel cleaner all over the wheels and leave for a few mins.  Then, using the wheel mitt and wheel woolies, I clean the wheels, wheel wells, brake discs and calipers, reaching right through the spokes to the other side of the wheel.

Bodywork wash
The starting point is good wash mitt and a decent shampoo. I favour lambswool as the deep pile will gently clean the paintwork whilst any taking away grit and surface contaminants away from the surface. Plenty of decent ones on the market.  I use many different shampoos, preferring those that offer good lubricity.

Wash the whole car using the lambswool mitt soaked in shampoo. Using a very gentle side-to-side gliding movement, start at the roof, then rear windscreen boot lid, front windscreen, bonnet and upper sides, upper wings. Lastly I do the lower sides, lower wings, lower rear, tailpipes, diffuser and the lower front end. I shampoo a panel at a time, and rinse the mitt after each panel, ensuring I run it across the grit guard to loosed and release any grit and debris.

Once the car has been washed it, it needs to be very thoroughly rinsed.  Rinse from roof down with jet washer (45 degree angle) until all shampoo is off.  Then using an open-ended hose (no attachments), Rinse again as before. The open-ended hose rinse makes the water ‘sheet’ of the car reducing the amount of standing water and so less to dry off with towels or dryer. This is the stage to use a ‘rinse aid, or quick detailer spray which can further reduce the drying time, if desired.

Drying
Drying method is very important as a poor technique can result in scratching paintwork. I use quite a few good quality soft micro fibre towels. After the final rinse, starting with the roof and working downwards, gently blot the water up with the towel by just laying it on the panel, don't rub.  A good MF towel will absorb a huge amount of water.  I use several towels around the car. I also use a Master Blaster Sidekick Dryer for wheels and other ‘water traps’. It’s not powerful enough to do the whole car but is a very useful bit of kit.  The majority of the car is dried using the MF towels.

Then I moved onto the decontamination phase.
 
Iron X
I started with the roof first, then one side of the car, including the wheels, then the other side, the rear and front.  You can do it a panel at a time but I find a few at once is fine.  I sprayed the Iron X on, let it dwell for 5 mins (less time if it's sunny), gave it a gentle rub over with a very soft micro fibre and then rinsed off thoroughly and dried it off as the next step - tar remover needs to be applied to a dry surface.  Then onto the Tardis.
 
Tardis
Similar procedure, applied to a dry car, either sprayed on directly or applied with a very soft Micro Fibre cloth a panel or two at a time, then wiped over gently with a MF, and rinsed off thoroughly. Important not to let the solvent dry on the car, I wiped over almost immediately and concentrated efforts on the areas where I knew there was glue residue from the stickers.  The residue melted off easily so there wasn’t the need to ‘scrub’ away at it, just apply a little extra Tardis to the areas where the glue is evident and wipe over gently until it has dissolved away.  No abrasive action was required at all.  Then I rinsed off very thoroughly.
   
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IronX iron remover
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Finally I washed the car, rinsed and dried.

I did the 'sandwich bag' test to see if much contaminant was left on the car - put your hand inside a sandwich style plastic bag and run the flat of your palm over the paintwork.  This serves to emphasis anything left on the car. In this case the car felt completely smooth and free from embedded contaminants. So I moved onto the next stage - to get some protection on the car.   

Stage 2 - Protection:
Snow foam
3-bucket wash
Sealant
Wax

As I had to follow up from the decon phase the following weekend, prior to getting protection on the car, I gave it another full snow foam and wash as before.  Then onto the sealant.

Products used for protection
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Seal
Poorboys EX-P  sealant
Poorboys Wheel Sealant
Mothers Mag and Aluminium Metal Polish
Sponge applicators
WoWo and Dodo Juice Micro fibre buffing cloths
Meguiars Dual Action Polisher
Chemical Guys Hex Logic Red pad
Quarts Tyre gel

After a good wash and dry I moved onto the sealing phase.  On this occasion I decided to use the DA to apply the sealant. It could equally be one by hand using a sponge applicator. I used a DA as you get a nice thin, even spread of the sealant. Using the DA on a slow speed setting, I dotted sealant around the pad and laid the pad onto the paintwork before switching the DA on. If you switch the DA on before placing the pad on the car, sealant will fling everywhere making a mess.

I apply sealant to the bodywork and all glass, EXCEPT the front windscreen, which I always leave clear of products. I workaround the car and apply the sealant to each panel and leave it to dry to a haze for 30 mins. I then buff it off each panel using the MF buffing cloths, and give the whole car a final buff over.

Sealant applied
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Wheels
I apply wheel sealant to the wheels, leaving it to haze for 10 mins, then buff off.

Tailpipes
Apply metal polish to the 4 tailpipes and left for 10 mins, then buff to a high shine.

Glass
AutoGlym Fast Glass
WoWo glass cloth

Gave all glass a clean, except the front windscreen.

Wax
DoDo Juice Blue Velvet Pro wax
Sponge applicators
WoWo and Dodo Juice Micro fibre buffing cloths

After the sealing phase, I move onto the last stage protection (LSP) and the application of wax. Having selected my favourite hard carnauba hybrid wax, I use a sponge applicator to apply a thin layer of wax to each panel, starting with the roof and working down.  I apply using a circular overlapping motion. I apply it to the whole car, including the glass, EXCEPT the front windscreen and wheels. After applying it I leave it to haze for 10 mins and then buff of with a very soft MF buffing cloth. I then give the whole car a final gentle buff.

Wax applied
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Tyres
Quarts tyre gel
Sponge applicator

Finally I spruce up the tyres with a couple of applications of a decent tyre gel.


The results (pic heavy)
Needs another coat of wax (next weekend) but turned out pretty good I think. 

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Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: KyleB on 18 October 2015, 21:43
Amazing Booth.  Love it.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Bungleaio on 18 October 2015, 21:46
Thats a proper write up!

And yes it does look good for it!
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Watts on 18 October 2015, 22:11
Excellent, an extremely useful guide and well explained. Thanks! Car looks magnificent too!
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Golf-Ball on 18 October 2015, 22:15
Looks awesome. That is all.  :smiley:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: phope on 18 October 2015, 22:20
Lovely  :cool:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: SRGTD on 18 October 2015, 22:48
Great write-up, and fantastic results!
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Exonian on 18 October 2015, 23:11
A fantastic write up Ms B
even though I slept through most of it  :whistle:

And the photos - just "wow"

Which was the biggest labour of love, the cleaning itself or the photos and write up?
Top work all round as always
 :cool:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Jimble on 18 October 2015, 23:41
Hubba hubba!!! Black cars look stunning when properly cared for and that is properly cared for!!!

Top work Miss Moderator! :cool:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 18 October 2015, 23:45
Amazing Booth.  Love it.
Thats a proper write up!

And yes it does look good for it!
Excellent, an extremely useful guide and well explained. Thanks! Car looks magnificent too!
Excellent, an extremely useful guide and well explained. Thanks! Car looks magnificent too!
Looks awesome. That is all.  :smiley:
Lovely  :cool:
Great write-up, and fantastic results!

Thanks to all.  :smiley:

Hope the write up is of use to some not yet a slave to the mistress of detailing.  :laugh:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 18 October 2015, 23:57
A fantastic write up Ms B
even though I slept through most of it  :whistle:

And the photos - just "wow"

Which was the biggest labour of love, the cleaning itself or the photos and write up?
Top work all round as always
 :cool:


WAKE UP Herr Ex!!  :grin:  Cheers muchly.  :smiley:

Writing and photos - easy, if time consuming.

Car cleaning - exhausting!!  I'm not getting any younger! 

The whole effort is made worse by the fact I live next door to synthetic sports pitch which is used throughout the winter for matches.  During the course of a match, the pitch is watered several times with high pressure jets, which drifts over the hedge and sprays filthy gritty water all over my car, usually when I've just dried off the last drop after cleaning. So in the course of today's long session, every time I heard the jets start, I had to jump in the car and reverse it up the side of the house, which is sheltered from the evil spray.  Must have moved in about 6 times in total.  :angry:

But whilst I was in the cleaning frenzy, Mr B, cooked a delicious roast beef dinner with Yorkshire puds, which I wolfed down with relish. And though it pains me to say it, his yorkshires are better than mine, and I was bloody well born there. Normally I do most of the cooking but he's recently discovered his inner Nigella.  :laugh:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 18 October 2015, 23:59
Hubba hubba!!! Black cars look stunning when properly cared for and that is properly cared for!!!

Top work Miss Moderator! :cool:

Cheers Jimble, it's the start of a well pampered life for the R.

Us Mods have to lead by example. :smiley:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Exonian on 19 October 2015, 00:11
I'm sure the sight of fit young footballers with freshly waxed legs more than makes up for the inconvenience! But boy must that be annoying!!!

I cooked roast beef today too funnily enough (technically yesterday now) but I had to get Aunt Bessie round to help with the Yorkshires.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 00:36
I'm sure the sight of fit young footballers with freshly waxed legs more than makes up for the inconvenience! But boy must that be annoying!!!

I cooked roast beef today too funnily enough (technically yesterday now) but I had to get Aunt Bessie round to help with the Yorkshires.

Hockey players, not football. The sports club caters for hockey, cricket, tennis and croquet.  You get a better class of hooligan. :grin:  Yes, it a complete PITA!

Honestly you should try the Mr B method for Yorkshire pud.  He doesn't bother with weighing scales, just 'guesses' the quantities, chucks it all in a bowl and whisks away. And STILL they are better (only just mind) than my carefully constructed puds!!!!  I hate him.  :grin:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Greerso on 19 October 2015, 11:11
That's fantastic - thanks for sharing your expertise you certainly have an eye for the detail  :cool:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Blackmass on 19 October 2015, 11:35
Hi Rebecca,

A thorough and brilliant write up. It may have been knackering but the fruits of your labour have been worth it, the car looks stunning. 
Your write up was just in time for my first Winter prep (weather permitting) which I plan to start next weekend.  Just waiting on a Carpro clay cloth and some Dooka applicators to arrive then I'm all set....Apparently you never forget 'your first' Winter prep;-)

Here's what arrived last Thursday....

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Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 12:52
That's fantastic - thanks for sharing your expertise you certainly have an eye for the detail  :cool:

Cheers Greerso. Nice pun, lol  :smiley:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Wo-Wo on 19 October 2015, 12:55
WOW, WOW, WOW!

Your cars are slowly making me a black car convert!

Brilliant work and brilliant write up!

Nice one!!!
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 12:57
Hi Rebecca,

A thorough and brilliant write up. It may have been knackering but the fruits of your labour have been worth it, the car looks stunning. 
Your write up was just in time for my first Winter prep (weather permitting) which I plan to start next weekend.  Just waiting on a Carpro clay cloth and some Dooka applicators to arrive then I'm all set....Apparently you never forget 'your first' Winter prep;-)

Here's what arrived last Thursday....

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Ooh!  Lots of nice goodies there.  Don't you just love it when a big box of detailing stuff arrives, lol. Be sure to post up a review and some pics if you get the chance. Are you planning on polishing?  I'm saving that till springtime.  No you never forget your first winter detail.  I've done a few but won't forget this one as my knees keep reminding me every time I walk up the stairs....creak!!!

Reminds me I need to order one or two bits but mainly some more DJ shampoo and a new pot of Mothers metal polish, having 4 tailpipes helps to get through the stuff. 
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 13:01
WOW, WOW, WOW!

Your cars are slowly making me a black car convert!

Brilliant work and brilliant write up!

Nice one!!!

Haha! My plan is coming to fruition.  :evil:

How's your beauty? The i8, not Bev, lol (though I'm sure she is worth ten i8's).

I'm just sending you an email Neil re the clay mitt. 
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Blackmass on 19 October 2015, 13:33
Hi Rebecca,

A thorough and brilliant write up. It may have been knackering but the fruits of your labour have been worth it, the car looks stunning. 
Your write up was just in time for my first Winter prep (weather permitting) which I plan to start next weekend.  Just waiting on a Carpro clay cloth and some Dooka applicators to arrive then I'm all set....Apparently you never forget 'your first' Winter prep;-)

Here's what arrived last Thursday....

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Ooh!  Lots of nice goodies there.  Don't you just love it when a big box of detailing stuff arrives, lol. Be sure to post up a review and some pics if you get the chance. Are you planning on polishing?  I'm saving that till springtime.  No you never forget your first winter detail.  I've done a few but won't forget this one as my knees keep reminding me every time I walk up the stairs....creak!!!

Reminds me I need to order one or two bits but mainly some more DJ shampoo and a new pot of Mothers metal polish, having 4 tailpipes helps to get through the stuff.

Yes I'll be polishing (by hand), no stage skipped. I decided on using AF Tripple in the end. It was either that or Autoglym SRP. I'll using Collinite 845 as my sealant.

As this is my first time I've no idea how long it's going to take me. It usually takes me around 3 hours just for a basic wash.
I'll take some photos and try to give my impressions of the products I've used....no pressure then. :grin:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 14:15

Yes I'll be polishing (by hand), no stage skipped. I decided on using AF Tripple in the end. It was either that or Autoglym SRP. I'll using Collinite 845 as my sealant.

As this is my first time I've no idea how long it's going to take me. It usually takes me around 3 hours just for a basic wash.
I'll take some photos and try to give my impressions of the products I've used....no pressure then. :grin:

I should set aside 2 days and eat a good breakfast before you start!  Yesterday the washing, sealing and waxing (incl wheels and tyres etc) took me 5/6 hours.  The initial decontamination stage took a morning but if you are claying and hand polishing that'll take a few hours too.  Best not to rush it, take your time.

Good luck!!  Look forward to the product review and write up (that takes a few hours too!).  :wink: :laugh:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: TwoSheds on 19 October 2015, 15:02

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Thanks to all.  :smiley:

Hope the write up is of use to some not yet a slave to the mistress of detailing.  :laugh:
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Hi Booth,
Thanks for the write up and pics.

Very useful tips for me as it looks like I would have made a rookie detailing mistake otherwise of applying the sealant as a final stage after the wax rather than before.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Blackmass on 19 October 2015, 15:08

Yes I'll be polishing (by hand), no stage skipped. I decided on using AF Tripple in the end. It was either that or Autoglym SRP. I'll using Collinite 845 as my sealant.

As this is my first time I've no idea how long it's going to take me. It usually takes me around 3 hours just for a basic wash.
I'll take some photos and try to give my impressions of the products I've used....no pressure then. :grin:


I should set aside 2 days and eat a good breakfast before you start!  Yesterday the washing, sealing and waxing (incl wheels and tyres etc) took me 5/6 hours.  The initial decontamination stage took a morning but if you are claying and hand polishing that'll take a few hours too.  Best not to rush it, take your time.

Good luck!!  Look forward to the product review and write up (that takes a few hours too!).  :wink: :laugh:


Thanks. Full English it is then. :grin:

Anyway....back on topic. I'm surprised you didn't apply a coating such as Gtechniq C5 to those drop dead gorgeous wheels of yours? Talking of coatings. What do you use to protect the rubber trim? I don't need revive the black, just protect it.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 15:35

Hi Booth,
Thanks for the write up and pics.

Very useful tips for me as it looks like I would have made a rookie detailing mistake otherwise of applying the sealant as a final stage after the wax rather than before.

Thanks.

It depends. What sealant did you use?

The rule of thumb is Sealant - Glaze (if using) - Wax. Because many sealants won't bond with wax if they are applied on top.

That said, many of the new nano sealants will let you apply wax on top.

Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Wo-Wo on 19 October 2015, 15:42
Yeah, all good thanks.

A tractor kindly covered me in mud the other day which was a great experience!!!! :angry:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 15:59

Thanks. Full English it is then. :grin:

Anyway....back on topic. I'm surprised you didn't apply a coating such as Gtechniq C5 to those drop dead gorgeous wheels of yours? Talking of coatings. What do you use to protect the rubber trim? I don't need revive the black, just protect it. 


I might have used G5 if I'd had time to take the wheels off (and do a proper job, lol). As it is they've got Poorboys Wheel Sealant on for the moment, but once that's worn off or when I do my spring detail, I will probably try either the Gtechniq G5 or Gyeon Q2 RIM, and whichever I choose, will also be used on the exhaust tips too.

Poorboys wheel sealant has not let me down yet but I must admit I wish it wasn't pink. It really shows up if you inadvertently get it in the wheel nuts and is nigh on impossible to get out.  :angry: I managed not to do this on most of them but Sod's Law it happened on the final wheel.  I will coax it out with a cotton bud or toothpick this weekend.     

As for rubber trim, funny you should mention it.  At the moment it's got nothing on it but the trim on the Mk7 even new looks like it needs some help.  So I'm getting some Gtechniq C4 to protect it. I used this on the plastics of the Mk6 and was very impressed, but I gave what I had left to a colleague at work for his Mk2 bumpers so need to buy some more. Otherwise on a monthly basis, I've used Chemical Guys New Look Trim Gel before, it's good but a bit messy.  Currently like Auto Finesse Dressle, so that would be my everyday choice at the moment, after the G4.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Blackmass on 19 October 2015, 16:16
I've already got some Auto Finesse Dressle which, if I'm being honest I've only used once but I used it with their quick detailer Finale at the same time and wasn't that impressed. Bouncer's Done & Dusted was in another league. I was very tempted to buy their Winter wax Fortify, so impressed was I with D&D.

I think I'll buy some C4. I haven't bought anything by Gtechniq yet....Will this ever end :laugh:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 17:13
I've already got some Auto Finesse Dressle which, if I'm being honest I've only used once but I used it with their quick detailer Finale at the same time and wasn't that impressed. Bouncer's Done & Dusted was in another league. I was very tempted to buy their Winter wax Fortify, so impressed was I with D&D.

I think I'll buy some C4. I haven't bought anything by Gtechniq yet....Will this ever end :laugh:

No!  :laugh:

See now you've got me looking up the Bouncer's D&D, lol!  But I love Chemical Guys Speed Wipe as a QD or DoDo Juice Tropical Red Mist as a spray sealant gloss enhancer.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: seabrook132 on 19 October 2015, 18:09
Rebecca, you have absolutely nailed the care of a black car in a way I've never seen before. I can see why you love it with results like that!  :cool:

Try Gtechniq C5, you won't regret it  :wink:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: TwoSheds on 19 October 2015, 20:53

Hi Booth,
Thanks for the write up and pics.

Very useful tips for me as it looks like I would have made a rookie detailing mistake otherwise of applying the sealant as a final stage after the wax rather than before.

Thanks.

It depends. What sealant did you use?

The rule of thumb is Sealant - Glaze (if using) - Wax. Because many sealants won't bond with wax if they are applied on top.

That said, many of the new nano sealants will let you apply wax on top.


I have GTech C2v3 sealant which I shall be using so I'm assuming it will take wax on top as C2v3 is nanotech.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 21:12
Rebecca, you have absolutely nailed the care of a black car in a way I've never seen before. I can see why you love it with results like that!  :cool:

Try Gtechniq C5, you won't regret it  :wink:

Thanks Dan.  :smiley:

I will try the G5. I'm also getting some C2V3 but for a try out on the Amarok. I still love my sealant/wax combo but open to new stuff.

That small top up list of stuff I need is getting longer by the hour.  I'm single-handedly keeping cleanyourcar in business I think.  :laugh:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 21:16

Hi Booth,
Thanks for the write up and pics.

Very useful tips for me as it looks like I would have made a rookie detailing mistake otherwise of applying the sealant as a final stage after the wax rather than before.

Thanks.

It depends. What sealant did you use?

The rule of thumb is Sealant - Glaze (if using) - Wax. Because many sealants won't bond with wax if they are applied on top.

That said, many of the new nano sealants will let you apply wax on top.


I have GTech C2v3 sealant which I shall be using so I'm assuming it will take wax on top as C2v3 is nanotech.

Ah, in that case you're ok. C2V3 is quite versatile, and is a sealant that can unusually be applied on top of wax, or wax can go on top of it.  In fact I think it's better to put it on top of wax as you have.  Usually it's the other way round, but nano coatings are different.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: KyleB on 19 October 2015, 21:24
Blackmass how come you're waiting for a clay cloth when you've got an AF Clay bar already?
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Blackmass on 19 October 2015, 21:39
Blackmass how come you're waiting for a clay cloth when you've got an AF Clay bar already?

Compare and contrast. It's the first time I've used clay so I wanted to be in position to try a couple of different options.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: TwoSheds on 19 October 2015, 21:42

Hi Booth,
Thanks for the write up and pics.

Very useful tips for me as it looks like I would have made a rookie detailing mistake otherwise of applying the sealant as a final stage after the wax rather than before.

Thanks.

It depends. What sealant did you use?

The rule of thumb is Sealant - Glaze (if using) - Wax. Because many sealants won't bond with wax if they are applied on top.

That said, many of the new nano sealants will let you apply wax on top.


I have GTech C2v3 sealant which I shall be using so I'm assuming it will take wax on top as C2v3 is nanotech.

Ah, in that case you're ok. C2V3 is quite versatile, and is a sealant that can unusually be applied on top of wax, or wax can go on top of it.  In fact I think it's better to put it on top of wax as you have.  Usually it's the other way round, but nano coatings are different.

Ok thanks.

I havn't put the sealant or wax on yet but would have put the sealant on last until I read your full post with pics.
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 22:03
Blackmass how come you're waiting for a clay cloth when you've got an AF Clay bar already?

Compare and contrast. It's the first time I've used clay so I wanted to be in position to try a couple of different options.

Am interested to hear which you prefer, but IMO, clay cloths/mitts are the way forward!
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 19 October 2015, 22:08
Ok thanks.

I havn't put the sealant or wax on yet but would have put the sealant on last until I read your full post with pics.

I've read up quite a bit on C2V3 over last few months, for this very reason as I'm a bit of a die-hard wax fan and was interested to know if it renders wax pointless.  Still not sure but if I was using it, from what I've read, I'd put the wax on first.  For me I don't know as I love finishing with wax, but I intend to try the C2V3 on partner's Amarok and do a panel with wax on top to see if it adds anything.

Let us know how you get on.  :smiley:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 22 October 2015, 16:46
The upside to the constant rain this week is the beading  Got a few pics after a few hours rain yesterday morning.  Car has one coat of Poorboys sealant and a single coat of DJ Blue Velvet Pro wax on at the the moment. Still want to get at least another coat of wax. Excuse crap iPhone pics.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5802/21733977504_bac8994031_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/z7yjj5)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5777/22343689462_f4c1d308c8_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/A3rfrd)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/609/22169888709_f0f496f77e_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zM5twv)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5716/22169895019_517064c67f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zM5vpi)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5672/22330734666_2565d0beed_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/A2hRqE)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5749/22168718550_ebee58af49_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zLYtFm)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/744/22367421201_f960f00a13_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/A5wT48)
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 22 October 2015, 16:56
And later that night, on leaving work.........smaller uniform beads. I do love a good bead.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5636/21738740414_670d12a4b7_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/z7YJad)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/751/21740403013_5eeb28572b_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/z88foH)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/766/22173769338_9c34cb7258_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zMqn6U)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5729/22174648829_45a32d53a5_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zMuSxx)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/654/22372199391_51bff4bd3e_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/A5XnrH)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/709/22174649399_75cbe82875_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zMuSHn)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5705/21738741244_6a5aea9c28_o.jpg)

And after the quick drive home:

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5831/22372397731_df8718e958_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/z7YJpw)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/725/22173966018_c640eb4f18_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zMrnyW)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/644/22335685596_2e658eabf5_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/A2Jeaw)
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Pinky1959 on 22 October 2015, 17:36
Booth   11
I don't usually like black cars but yours is absolutely stunning , I liked the beading photos but hope the quick run home wasn't  tooooooo quick ! !
I usually cheat when washing our cars and take them round the bypass to dry off but not to quick ...
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: TwoSheds on 22 October 2015, 18:15
I love the image no1 in the last batch of photos.

It could be cropped and entered into a 'what is this ?' competition.  :smiley:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 22 October 2015, 18:17
Booth   11
I don't usually like black cars but yours is absolutely stunning , I liked the beading photos but hope the quick run home wasn't  tooooooo quick ! !
I usually cheat when washing our cars and take them round the bypass to dry off but not to quick ...

Thanks Pinky  :smiley:

No, it wasn't too quick, not for want of trying though, lol?  At 6pm ish on any day of the week here, it's impossible to go too quick or even just quick as the traffic is usually very slooow.  :sad:
Title: Re: R's first detail
Post by: Booth11 on 22 October 2015, 18:22
I love the image no1 in the last batch of photos.

It could be cropped and entered into a 'what is this ?' competition.  :smiley:

Haha, I thought the same. If you zoom in on some of them they look like lots of black/grey pebbles.  I also like the little tiny beads in between the bigger ones in the second set of pics.  :smiley: