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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Watts on 14 June 2022, 21:04

Title: DSG tune
Post by: Watts on 14 June 2022, 21:04
I find the gearbox to be rather juddery at low speeds and you can feel it slipping the clutch plus sport mode is a bit too aggresive. At the least I'd like it to be smoother at bimbling speeds. Does anyone have first hand experience of the tunes and will they improve these aspects?
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: CarbonGTD on 15 June 2022, 13:56
Hi Watts - I totally agree with your comments re DSG - however I fear you won't get many takers re gearbox tune experience (I hope I am wrong) as it is not cheap (more than twice the cost of a pedalbox) and more importantly may spook people with warranty claim doubts (we all know how hugely expensive DSG repairs can be, and I'm sure VW would love to find an excuse to wriggle out of paying) not to mention insurance mods cover ambiguity.

I believe the guy at Bognor Motors on the south coast (actually not that far form me) has been running a grey Mk 7.5 GTI TCR (so not wildly dissimilar to your car) with the gearbox map on it for a while which you can test drive to feel the difference (you can see him talking to Andrew about it in one of the Volkswizard YT videos from last summer at one of the track day evenings).

Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: mcmaddy on 15 June 2022, 14:03
TVS is the best gearbox tune apparently but might be worth looking at Racingline as they are closely aligned to VW. Not sure if many places like doing gearbox on its own though.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Watts on 15 June 2022, 14:29
Thanks both, APR also do them but yes, rather pricey. I found a garage not too far from me that will do bespoke TCU remaps or they also do Racingline. They have lots of good reviews, not sure what they charge though. May call in on them for a chat. TVS was the one I was thinking of too but struggling to find qualified opinions on them. Will google again and see where I get.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: mcmaddy on 15 June 2022, 18:09
Thanks both, APR also do them but yes, rather pricey. I found a garage not too far from me that will do bespoke TCU remaps or they also do Racingline. They have lots of good reviews, not sure what they charge though. May call in on them for a chat. TVS was the one I was thinking of too but struggling to find qualified opinions on them. Will google again and see where I get.
I think TVS are widely regarded as the best dsg tunes you can buy.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: willni on 16 June 2022, 08:48
TVS is the best gearbox tune apparently but might be worth looking at Racingline as they are closely aligned to VW. Not sure if many places like doing gearbox on its own though.

I'd be wary of Racingline, they aren't closely aligned with VW and they typically just sell rebranded parts and maps, the same company that sold an air intake made by ITG which created issues for the mk5 owners.

I think the Americans like to do DSG tunes however but not sure if they got the 7-speed or not, you can't go wrong with Revo as they always air on the side of safety.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Watts on 16 June 2022, 13:58
Thanks willni, more food for thought.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 June 2022, 15:37
Thanks willni, more food for thought.
I'm going tvs when the warranty is up on mine if I'm brave enough 😂👍
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Watts on 16 June 2022, 17:34
Thanks willni, more food for thought.
I'm going tvs when the warranty is up on mine 👍

I've read a few negative reviews on TVS but then no doubt if you look you'll find negative reviews on other brands too.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Exonian on 16 June 2022, 22:33
What negative things have you heard about TVS Watts?
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Watts on 17 June 2022, 06:19
A couple of things, one where in the US where was a phenomenal amount of faffing around getting the tune with a lot of back and forth to the Netherlands to get it installed and then it seemed to be the wrong tune, someone else wasn't happy as after a while it seemed to have taken on very much stock like properties. There were though others saying how great the stage 2+ tune was so I'm not saying it was all bad but finding decent objective reviews on any TCU remap seems tricky, especially on an otherwise stock car.

I'm not so bothered about making changes to the way sport works, or launching it faster, I was just hoping that regular off the line driving could be smoothed out.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: dubber36 on 17 June 2022, 14:32
I've read nothing but good things about the TVS map that Oli at Bognor Motors has installed on many a Transporter as well as his own TCR.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Watts on 17 June 2022, 19:13
I've read nothing but good things about the TVS map that Oli at Bognor Motors has installed on many a Transporter as well as his own TCR.

Thanks.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Ej1749 on 18 June 2022, 19:06
I find the gearbox to be rather juddery at low speeds and you can feel it slipping the clutch plus sport mode is a bit too aggresive. At the least I'd like it to be smoother at bimbling speeds. Does anyone have first hand experience of the tunes and will they improve these aspects?

Sounds counter intuitive, the only time I experienced less slip was when I had a but I’d turbo, I think because the turbo would come on strong, but it would be as aggressive - just as an FYI
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Exonian on 18 June 2022, 22:49
I'm not so bothered about making changes to the way sport works, or launching it faster, I was just hoping that regular off the line driving could be smoothed out.

Indeed, unless engine tuned and in need of extra clamping force or a bit of aggression under full fat acceleration (probably on closed circuit or drag strip use) then Sport is good enough as is.

I totally got where you were coming from with this thread.
The desire to remove that indecisiveness at normal driving speed and occasional clutch slip as the box goes through the gears too quickly when you want to get up to speed in a leisurely but positive fashion.
I’d imagine there would be a lot of requests for a mid-point setting that’s less aggressive than sport but more positive feeling than normal or comfort.

I think DTE/DTUK do a plug in DSG tune, or at least they used to. I’ve no idea what sort of improvement or otherwise this unit would bring. 
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 June 2022, 16:29
I wouldn't go anywhere near anything dtuk are flogging. With something as expensive and important as the dsg gearbox you want a company that knows what's it's doing. Dtuk definitely don't fall into that category!
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Exonian on 20 June 2022, 18:40
I’m saying nothing….   :evil:
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 June 2022, 19:19
I’m saying nothing….   :evil:
😂😂
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Ej1749 on 29 June 2022, 13:56
I find the gearbox to be rather juddery at low speeds and you can feel it slipping the clutch plus sport mode is a bit too aggresive. At the least I'd like it to be smoother at bimbling speeds. Does anyone have first hand experience of the tunes and will they improve these aspects?

My stage 1 GTD occasionally slips underload very slightly in 2nd, but not 1st which is bizarre. My 2015 S3 and my current GTD are/were both a bit juddery when cold. My GTD feels like it is going to stall as I stop at the junction leaving my estate. It is fine after about 2-3 mins though.

I have noticed that in town driving and slow stop start traffic if your autohold is turned on, then trying to gently pull away is very jerky, especially if you are using DCC.
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Jace on 01 July 2022, 13:54
I have a REVO TCU map in my stg2 7.5 R estate & it works very well with the REVO engine software.

Depending on how old your car is & if it has the 7 speed DQ381 gearbox VW are actually doing a software update on these now, I took mine for MOT on Monday at a VW dealer & they asked me if I wanted it uploading, which I didn't as its already running the Revo tune.

Contact your local main VW dealer & check
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Watts on 01 July 2022, 14:59
Thanks Jace, any idea what the update is for?
Title: Re: DSG tune
Post by: Jace on 06 July 2022, 16:51
I don't I'm afraid, 

Better to call your local service dept & ask