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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Topic started by: Hertsman on 07 July 2023, 11:56

Title: Head Unit Change
Post by: Hertsman on 07 July 2023, 11:56
Morning

MK 6 GTI Sept 2012 RNS 510

Looking at modernising the head unit to incorporate Apple Car Play and there is lots of options out there, would like to go OEM if that's possible?? is there an updated head unit that retrofits?

Have been looking at the modern touchscreen upgrade and not averse, and Pioneer SPH-DA160DAB keeps popping up as recommended.

Only have rear audio parking sensors so there is no rear camera complexity though imagine a DAB Ariel would need to be installed?

Any thoughts and recommendations from those who have done similar?
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Bluto on 07 July 2023, 12:27
Hi Hertsman

Yes, I have upgraded my RNS510 a while back to a Pioneer DAB head unit with Apple CarPlay. Also upgraded the shark fin aerial to do FM and DAB.

Details of what I’ve done are in this post where another forum member was asking about upgrading when the car also has Dynaudio fitted

 https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=287915.0 (https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=287915.0)

Hope that may be of help? If you need any more details let me know.

Cheers

Bluto
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Snoopy on 07 July 2023, 18:23
https://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=289263.msg2656506#msg2656506
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: JSYGTI on 08 July 2023, 08:04
It would be worth checking out the Eonon VWA12S, it’s their new headunit running Android 12 with all the bells and whistles.

If it wasn’t for the fact I recently upgraded to an RNS510, I’d seriously consider it.

https://www.eonon.com/Android-Car-GPS/Vehicle-Specific-GPS/eonon-vw-seat-skoda-android-12-wireless-apple-carplay-android-auto-car-radio-with-4gb-ram-9-inch-qled-touch-screen.html
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Hertsman on 10 July 2023, 11:53
Thanks for the reply guys and having done some research am walking back from an upgrade as the RNS510 should be good enough for our uses, but maybe some of its issues are firmware related as it seems it is on the SW 4120 (original) and that SW 5238 is quite a major update for responsiveness and UI interactions.

Anyone have any experience in a firmware upgrade?
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: JSYGTI on 11 July 2023, 07:52
I’ve not done an update myself, but you can get the disc or digital downloads off eBay for reasonable money.

It might be worth getting an update for the maps too as I’ve heard that there is a chance the software/firmware update could wipe the maps outs. Again, you can get V17 (2020) of the maps off eBay.

It would be great  how you get on, please keep us posted.
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Snoopy on 11 July 2023, 16:27
I upgraded the firmware on mine a few years back. It did wipe the maps  on mine. But i had a version to reinstall. I need to update the maps now as they are way out of date.
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Nino on 16 September 2023, 16:39
Having just got my Eddy, its got an RCD330

Looks like this;
(https://www.rcd330.co.uk/cdn/shop/files/rcd_image_1_edited_2_debeaa00-f56b-4e37-9743-64db4f2a2e5e_540x.jpg?v=1683083341)

But I want to change it out with something that has Apple car play with a way to route the wire behind the unit as my current wire just gets in the way when changing gears.

At first, I thought about getting the upgraded version of the RCD330 called the RCD330+ which comes to $479 but has more RAM and a wireless Carplay dongle! (Select Package A) but I am yet to see what that comes to with shipping/fees etc think it comes directly from China but is the cheapest option and is plug and play. Only downsides I have discovered with this unit are it has no DAB and the FAM/AM stations won't display the station names, you will only see the freq - As it is build as an OEM replacement, it also doesn't have any pre-outs for amps etc.
(https://www.rcd330.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/wireless_carplay.png)
https://www.rcd330.com/product/desay-187b-with-rear-usb/

2nd Option is the Kenwood DNX518VDABS
(https://kasc.kenwood.com/files/image/3172/8/600x410-10/DNX518VDABS-Apple_CarPlay-Home-Screen.png)

This unit was acutally an optional extra from VW so you know its certified and will also work with your climate control etc.
Only downside to this is the cheapest I have been able to find it is around £1,100-£1,400 on ebay and upon reading reviews, has ALOT of complaints about it not being a very reliable unit with the most common issue being lag on the interface, overly complicated menus and DAB not working.

The final 3rd option I have come across is the Alpine X902D-G6 and X903D-G6

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6ntotwHY528/sddefault.jpg)

This is by far the nicest looking unit in my honest opinion has DAB and Carplay etc and works with all the standard things, I am however yet to find them for sale anywhere...
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Bluto on 16 September 2023, 17:45
I agree the Alpine unit looks very flush with the dash and I did shortlist for replacing the RNS510 in my Mk6.  Though when I read Alpine's fitting instructions and specifically the amount of "Dremel" chopping to the original headunit surround/air vents to allow installation, I went with a Pioneer AVIC-Z930DAB.  Personally I wanted to be able to refit my RNS510 if required, though I appreciate that's not a criteria for everyone.

The Pioneer AVIC-Z930DAB has wireless Apple CarPlay and wireless Android Auto.  Found it very stable. Occasionally (one every three or four months) I may get an incident of the wireless Apple CarPlay randomly disconnecting.  Which takes a reboot of the headunit to resolve.  Though I'm not sure if that's my old iPhone with the issue rather than the headunit. 


(https://i.postimg.cc/PrWvf5gK/IMG-4961.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

According to various car audio online shops, the Alpine X903D-G6 looks to have been discontinued by Alpine. So probably why it's trickier to track down.
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Nino on 16 September 2023, 19:27
Yeah I have seen that :(

I watched the installation video about the dremmeling and looks very straight forward, I honestly would have bought a 2nd Radio cage and vents though as I agree, I wouldn't want to cut up my Eddy's.

Really not sure what to do now.
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Nino on 17 September 2023, 12:57
Potentail new contender??

Has DAB and Wireless Apple carplay  :shocked:

https://www.halfords.com/technology/car-audio/car-stereos/snooper-smh-580vw-multimedia-player-with-apple-carplay-and-android-auto-734422.html

(https://cdn.media.halfords.com/i/washford/734422?w=740&h=555&qlt=default&fmt=auto&v=1)
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Nino on 17 September 2023, 14:34
OK, I caved :D

Turns out that I acutally didn't have the RCD330+ but I have the cheaper RCD360

(https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/378101451_335010912291516_4571852735200408044_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p1080x2048&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=82VW_0krbAgAX-CkpAd&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&oh=03_AdS6hhZ2C5IZ9vRpK5C-65nn0QYUT9_NLLLyw-o4G4V0CA&oe=652E6B47)
(https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/377983219_694911939155258_1976810224466048350_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s2048x2048&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=QYgJBJYUzTUAX9HmKmU&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&oh=03_AdRhLsTOyLM6F_gjKxrwsI7HQFeWgkB2fkF9bXwCWyyCrQ&oe=652E643B)

Ive now purchased the RCD330+ Desay one with the USB rear port to route down near the ashtry to replace it. I didn't get DAB like I wanted but, this will work with a reversing cam that the same website sells that I can add at the later date for about £90ish and it looks OEM.

Honestly, only after market one that I would have bought is the Alpine one but they no longer exisit so RCD330+ it is.
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: JSYGTI on 18 September 2023, 06:19
Where did you get that one from?
Title: Re: Head Unit Change
Post by: Nino on 18 September 2023, 07:09
Where did you get that one from?

My new one (the one I just bought) or my current one that is installed the RCD360?