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General => The garage => Topic started by: oilman on 15 May 2007, 08:18
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This post may seem like going back to basics but we are constantly surprised by the amount of people who do not know or understand what is written on a bottle of oil and therefore have no idea of what they are looking for, buying or using.
This post should help as a basic guide, for more detailed information contact us and we will be happy to help.
So, to be blunt about the subject, if a bottle of oil does not contain the following basic information then DO NOT buy it look for something that does!
1) The purpose for which it is intended (i.e. Motor oil, Gear oil etc)
2) The viscosity (i.e. 10w-40, 5w-30 etc for Motor oils and 80w-90, 75w-90 etc for Gear oils)
3) The specifications that it meets (should contain both API and ACEA ratings)
4) The OEM Approvals that it carries and the codes (i.e. MB229.3, VW504.00, FORD 913a/b, BMW LL04 etc)
Ignore the marketing blurb on the label it is in many cases meaningless and we will explain later what statements you should treat with skepticism.
So, what does the above information mean and why is it important?
THE BASICS
All oils are intended for an application and in general are not interchangeable. You would not for example put an Automatic Transmission Oil or a Gear Oil in your engine! It is important to know what the oils intended purpose is.
VISCOSITY
Most oils on the shelves today are “Multigradesâ€Â, which simply means that the oil falls into 2 viscosity grades (i.e. 10w-40 etc)
Multigrades were first developed some 50 years ago to avoid the old routine of using a thin oil in winter and a thicker oil in the summer.
In a 10w-40 for example the 10w bit (W = winter, not weight or watt or anything else for that matter) simply means that the oil must have a certain maximum viscosity/flow at low temperature.
The lower the “W†number the better the oils cold temperature/cold start performance. I.E. 5w is better than 10w etc
The 40 in a 10w-40 simply means that the oil must fall within certain viscosity limits at 100 degC. This is a fixed limit and all oils that end in 40 must achieve these limits.
Once again the lower the number the thinner the oil, a 30 oil is thinner than a 40 oil at 100 degC etc. Your handbook will specify whether a 30, 40 or 50 etc is required.
SPECIFICATIONS
Specifications are important as these indicate the performance of an oil and whether it has met or passed the latest tests or whether the formulation is effectively obsolete or out of date.
There are two specifications that you should look for on any oil bottle and these are API (American Petroleum Institute) and ACEA (Association des Constructeurs Europeens d’Automobiles) all good oils should contain both of these and an understanding of what they mean is important.
API
This is the more basic of the two specs as it is split (for passenger cars) into two catagories.
S = Petrol and C = Diesel, most oils carry both petrol (S) and diesel (C) specifications.
The following table shows how up to date the specifications the oil are:
PETROL
SG - Introduced 1989 has much more active dispersant to combat black sludge.
SH - Introduced 1993 has same engine tests as SG, but includes phosphorus limit 0.12%, together with control of foam, volatility and shear stability.
SJ - Introduced 1996 has the same engine tests as SG/SH, but phosphorus limit 0.10% together with variation on volatility limits
SL - Introduced 2001, all new engine tests reflective of modern engine designs meeting current emissions standards
SM - Introduced November 2004, improved oxidation resistance, deposit protection and wear protection, also better low temperature performance over the life of the oil compared to previous categories.
Note:
All specifications prior to SL are now obsolete and although suitable for some older vehicles are more than 10 years old and do not provide the same level of performance or protection as the more up to date SL and SM specifications.
DIESEL
CD - Introduced 1955, international standard for turbo diesel engine oils for many years, uses single cylinder test engine only
CE - Introduced 1984, improved control of oil consumption, oil thickening, piston deposits and wear, uses additional multi cylinder test engines
CF4 - Introduced 1990, further improvements in control of oil consumption and piston deposits, uses low emission test engine
CF - Introduced 1994, modernised version of CD, reverts to single cylinder low emission test engine. Intended for certain indirect injection engines
CF2 - Introduced 1994, defines effective control of cylinder deposits and ring face scuffing, intended for 2 stroke diesel engines
CG4 - Introduced 1994, development of CF4 giving improved control of piston deposits, wear, oxidation stability and soot entrainment. Uses low sulphur diesel fuel in engine tests
CH4 - Introduced 1998, development of CG4, giving further improvements in control of soot related wear and piston deposits, uses more comprehensive engine test program to include low and high sulphur fuels
CI4 Introduced 2002, developed to meet 2004 emission standards, may be used where EGR ( exhaust gas recirculation ) systems are fitted and with fuel containing up to 0.5 % sulphur. May be used where API CD, CE, CF4, CG4 and CH4 oils are specified.
Note:
All specifications prior to CH4 are now obsolete and although suitable for some older vehicles are more than 10 years old and do not provide the same level of performance or protection as the more up to date CH4 & CI4 specifications.
If you want a better more up to date oil specification then look for SL, SM, CH4, CI4
ACEA
This is the European equivalent of API (US) and is more specific in what the performance of the oil actually is. A = Petrol, B = Diesel and C = Catalyst compatible or low SAPS (Sulphated Ash, Phosphorus and Sulphur).
Unlike API the ACEA specs are split into performance/application catagories as follows:
A1 Fuel economy petrol
A2 Standard performance level (now obsolete)
A3 High performance and/or extended drain
A4 Reserved for future use in certain direct injection engines
A5 Combines A1 fuel economy with A3 performance
B1 Fuel economy diesel
B2 Standard performance level (now obsolete)
B3 High performance and/or extended drain
B4 For direct injection car diesel engines
B5 Combines B1 fuel economy with B3/B4 performance
C1-04 Petrol and Light duty Diesel engines, based on A5/B5-04 low SAPS, two way catalyst compatible.
C2-04 Petrol and light duty Diesel engines, based on A5/B5-04 mid SAPS, two way catalyst compatible.
C3-04 Petrol and light duty Diesel engines, based on A5/B5-04 mid SAPS, two way catalyst compatible, Higher performance levels due to higher HTHS.
Note: SAPS = Sulphated Ash, Phosphorous and Sulphur.
Put simply, A3/B3, A5/B5 and C3 oils are the better quality, stay in grade performance oils.
APPROVALS
Many oils mention various Car Manufacturers on the bottle, the most common in the UK being VW, MB, BMW, Ford or Vauxhall but do not be misled into thinking that you are buying top quality oil because of this.
Oil Companies send their oils to OEM’s for approval however some older specs are easily achieved and can be done so with the cheapest of mineral oils. Newer specifications are always more up to date and better quality/performance than the older ones.
Some of the older OEM specifications are listed here and depending on the performance level of your car are best ignored if you are looking for a quality high performance oil:
VW – 500.00, 501.00 and 505.00
Later specs like 503, 504, 506 and 507 are better performing more up to date oils
MB – 229.1
Later specs like 229.3 and 229.5 are better performing more up to date oils.
BMW – LL98
Later specs like LL01 and LL04 are better performing more up to date oils.
FINALLY
Above is the most accurate guidance we can give without going into too much depth however there is one final piece of advice regarding labelling.
Certain statements are made on labels that are meaningless and just marketing hype, here are a few to avoid!
Recommended for use where……………
May be used where the following specifications apply……………
Approved by………………………..(but with no qualification or specification)
Recommended/Approved by (some famous person, these endorsements are paid for)
Racing/Track formula (but with no supporting evidence)
Also be wary of statements like “synthetic blend†if you are looking for a fully synthetic oil as this will merely be a semi-synthetic.
Like everything in life, you get what you pay for. The cheaper the oil the cheaper the ingredients, lower the performance levels and older the specs it meets so beware!
If you would like further advice then please feel free to ask here or contact us via our website or email.
Simon & Guy
Opie Oils
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OK :smiley: , so whats your opinion of my favourite quantum semisynthetic and using it in a mk2 golf gti?
http://www.vwspares.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=2199
What would be your recommendation without going OTT?
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That is fine, the 10w-40 Quantum is just an every semi just like most.
Next step up is to a 5w-40 synthetic.
Cheers
Guy.
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i was just thinking how much oil dose ur car take when doing a oil change my car is a 99 golf 1.8t
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Just over 4ltr I believe, so 5ltr will do you a change with a little left over for top up.
Cheers
Guy.
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Please could you recommend or tell me what oil I should put in my mk4 Golf GTI 20v Turbo.
Btw I dont do track days or owt and i spend a lot of time crawling in traffic jams to and from work every day. (just incase that changes anything) Yes I am clueless.
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What year is your MKIV?
Cheers
Guy.
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^^^
Its 1999 matey. september '99 to be precise.
cheers
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Cool, you just about pre-date all the variable/non variable service stuff from VW wich require special oils. The best choice is for a performance based 5w-40 or 0w-40 synthetic meeting or exceeding the VW502.00 spec and changed around every 10,000 miles or so.
Brand wise, Mobil, Castrol, Motul etc.
Cheers
Guy.
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thanks a lot matey. much appreciate your help.
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Hi mate, could you please advise the best oil to use in a Mk3 1997 R Reg Golf Gti 8v with 115,000 on the clock ?
Cheers
John
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Sorry for the late reply.
10w-40 semi is the norm and fine with regular changes.
The quality choice is for a 5w-40 full synthetic for oil changes around 10,000 miles.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk
Cheers
Guy.
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Cheers for the reply mate :)
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hey got a 2000 1.8 20v gti turbo could you recomend me an oil for it as i'm clueless when it comes to oil want to do some track days soon but do alot of journeys too and from college and work
cheers
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Is it on the VW variable service schedule? Of the fixed service schedule?
Cheers
Guy.
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what does that mean? it was last service 10000 miles ago n need a service now
cheers
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If it is serviced every 10,000 miles you are on the fixed service schedule. I would have a look at a good 0w-40 or 5w-40 synthetic.
Plenty to choose from, Mobil, Castrol, Fuchs, Silkolene etc.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk
Cheers
Guy.
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i'm gonna be servicing it my self and most probably change the oil every 6000miles i think when my mate does his cossie as we're gonna go half on the oil buyin in bulk, whats the best make does it make much of a difference between the makes?
cheers
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WHat cossie has your friend got? Might be able to do one oil for both... there can be a big difference between make and quality.
Cheers
Guy.
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rwd saph runnin around 440bhp does some track days
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FOr him there is only one oil we recomend wich is the Silkolene Pro S 10w-50, the Pro S 5w-40 would be ideal for you. I can do you a deal on both.
Cheers
Guy.
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can i have a price for the 5w-40 please his is in pieces gettin a full rebuild now so wont be back for a while
cheers
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1 x 5ltr Pro S 5w-40 £40 delivered, good for 8,000 miles of hard use with the odd track day thrown in.
Cheers
Guy
01209 215164
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wot oil would you recommend for a 96 vr6 :huh:
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Decent 5w-40 synthetic meeting ACEA A3 Spec
Regards
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hey can u quote me for this delivered with an oil filter for a w reg - 2000 mk4 gti turbo and how to pay for it as need to order it before friday cheers
1 x 5ltr Pro S 5w-40 £40 delivered, good for 8,000 miles of hard use with the odd track day thrown in.
Cheers
Guy
01209 215164
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Weve got an offer on so around £44 for the lot delivered, maybe less.
You can either order online here http://www.opieoils.co.uk or by calling us on 01209 215164
Cheers
Guy.
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hey jus wanted to say a big thanks ordered oil and filter late yesterday afternoon through Guy 'top man' and it all arrived today at lunch time top service cheers
leigh
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Hi
I just recently bought a MK3 8V P reg golf, I want to know the best oil for the engine and the gearbox.
thanks
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For the engine 5w-40 full synthetic changed every 8-10,000 miles or 10w-40 semi synthetic changed more often.
For the gearbox a synthetic 75w-90.
Plenty to choose from http://www.opieoils.co.uk
Cheers
Guy.
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what oil would be best for my H reg Mrk 2 1.8 Gti?¿? :undecided: thankies
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Is the engine modded at all? And just used for normall road use?
Cheers
Guy.
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I only use it for normal road use atm.
k star superchip thats all
thanks
Mike.
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What would you recommend for a 97 mk3 16v engine? Would you say running a fully sythetic oil like mobil 1 0w-40w would me too thin for the engine and running a 5/10w-40w oil would be better.
Lots of people saying running thinner oils will get through on worn engines hence oil consumption is this correct?
I thought that running the best oil possible would help provide more protection and the engine would last longer too, during normal and hard use.
Thanks,
Sukhvir
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I only use it for normal road use atm.
k star superchip thats all
thanks
Mike.
Mike,
5w-40 synthetic is ideal for some fast road use, have a look at soomething like the Motul 8100 5w-40
Cheers
Guy.
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What would you recommend for a 97 mk3 16v engine? Would you say running a fully sythetic oil like mobil 1 0w-40w would me too thin for the engine and running a 5/10w-40w oil would be better.
Lots of people saying running thinner oils will get through on worn engines hence oil consumption is this correct?
I thought that running the best oil possible would help provide more protection and the engine would last longer too, during normal and hard use.
Thanks,
Sukhvir
Hi,
0w-40 is fine, and not too thin despite what people say.
As a quality choice I could look at 5w-40 or 0w-40 synthetic, cost option 10w-40 semi.
Cheers
Guy.
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Mike,
5w-40 synthetic is ideal for some fast road use, have a look at soomething like the Motul 8100 5w-40
Cheers
Guy.
Cheers Guy, will look into it! :)
Mike.
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Guy,
Thanks for the advice
Sukhvir
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hi there, i have a 99 mk4 golf gti 2.0 and its due an oil change. what would you recommend? normal everyday driving and no engine mods, cheers :wink:
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Just plug your details into here (we need people to try it as it's being tested) and all should be revealed.
Any problems, just get back to me.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/product-finder.aspx?CategoryID=370&SEName=oil-service-pack-recommendation&make=vw
Regards
Guy
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nice one, good helpful website, cheers
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Glad you liked it, this tool is very useful for you guys
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/product-finder.aspx?CategoryID=370&SEName=oil-service-pack-recommendation&make=vw
Cheers
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hi i have looked at the link you have posted but i cannot find my girlfriends gti listed
its a 1989 mk2 gti 1.8 8v
any feedback would be great
thanks
karl
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Does anyone have any opinion on what Oil Stabiliser products are like?
My local car parts shop has it's little demo cogs setup with oil stabiliser in one side and not in the other.
I just don't know whether this stuff is worth doing or not.
Anyone?
!m!
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hi i have looked at the link you have posted but i cannot find my girlfriends gti listed
its a 1989 mk2 gti 1.8 8v
any feedback would be great
thanks
karl
Karl,
A good 10w-40 semi with regular changes will be ideal.
Cheers
Guy.
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Does anyone have any opinion on what Oil Stabiliser products are like?
My local car parts shop has it's little demo cogs setup with oil stabiliser in one side and not in the other.
I just don't know whether this stuff is worth doing or not.
Anyone?
!m!
Dont bother with them, they are based on outdated 50's technology and will just do more harm than good. The cogs are a very misleading test.
I have an article about these if you want me to post it up.
Cheers
Guy.
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Please do post it up. I'd like to read that.
Always nice to read something that busts some hype and marketing.
!m!
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Hiya wondered if you could help me, i'm about to do an oil change and went the best for my car. Which oil would be the best for a VW Golf Gti 2.0i 16v 1996. Thankyou
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10W 40 Semi-synthetic???
I'm going to be changing my oil next week. Think i'll use that grade.
Also a mk3 gti 16v but on a 94 plate.
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10w-40 semi with regular changes is fine, if you want to give it a treat then go for a 5w-40 synthetic.
Cheers
Guy.
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What oil would you recommend for use in a 53 plate 1.9 GT TDi 150 (mk4)? I've tried the link but don't know the difference between the different GT TDi specs :embarassed:
Thanks.
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Take a look at these as they are the most up to date
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-754-50700.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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Thanks alot for the advice :cool:
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Pleasure mate.
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What oil should I use in my 2002 Mk4 GTi 20V Turbo? Cheers.
I have tried searching by the way, but I'm confused at all the different information I'm finding. The book says one thing and here it says that's old obsolete oil. I basically want to know the Viscosity I should use. I usually use Castrol, so if that's fine with a particular viscosity, then that'll be what I may go for.
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Are you on the variable or fixed service schedule?
Cheers
Guy
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No idea, annual servicing as far as I know.
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A good 5w-40 synthetic changed every 10,000 miles or once a year which ever comes first.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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Hi mate,
What oil would you suggest for a 57 (registered in April) plate GTI Edition 30? I have got myself so confused.
I do not do track days or thing like that and i spend most of my time stuck in traffic on the way to work!
Any help you can offer would be much appreciated!
Thanks,
Tom
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Take a look here, you should find all you're looking for, just put your car detail in and................
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-861-car-engine-oils.aspx
If you cannot find what you are looking for please let me know.
Cheers
Guy
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Hi, i do a fair bit of mileage and i have (on the occasion, we all do it) a heavy right foot. Its a MK3 Golf 8v 1.6lt, 1995 (N) im at just over 90,000 and wanting to do an oil change :smiley: , I have been told 10W-40 but is there a recomendation for mileage and speeds (does go to race courses on the odd occasion)
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10w-40 semi synthetic with regular changes is fine, however if you really want to treat it a 5w-40 synthetic, these are bette for both protection and performance.
Have a look here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-647-engine-oils.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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Right, quick one, did search a little but found nothing.
1991 Mark 2 Golf GTi 8 valve. PB engine. 135,000 miles on the clock. What oil to use? PM me if possible. Thanks.
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You have pm.
Cheers
Guy
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What would be the best oil to use for my t reg golf gti 20v non turbo cheers kane
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5w-40 or 0w-40 synthetic changed every 10,000 miles or once a year which ever comes first.
Cheers
Guy
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Hi,
I've got the same engine (1.8 20v non-turbo) in my 1999 Audi A4 Avant, but your website recommends 10w-40 semi or 5w-30 for an "upgrade".
Which is it ?
The car has 130k on the clock and I only do about 8k a year.
thanks
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10w-40 semi, normal cost choice. 5w-30 or 5w-40 synthetic is the quality choice.
You choose.
Cheers
Guy
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Hey oilman,
What would you advise for a 1990 mk2 16v weekend car ! standard car !
wanna put something good in it !
Cheers M8
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If the engine is in good shape, a good 5w-40 synthetic is ideal.
Have a browse http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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Thanks M8
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Hi there Was wondering what oil to use for my Golf gti mk3 1994 in the book it states duckhams Qxr premium and i cnat seem to find it I want the absolute best money is not a concern could you recomned a make and type Pleasee that is the best Thank u
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Hi guy, whats your recommendations for a 96 GTI 16v with 160 thou on the clock and totaly standard. cheers Ron
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Hi there Was wondering what oil to use for my Golf gti mk3 1994 in the book it states duckhams Qxr premium and i cnat seem to find it I want the absolute best money is not a concern could you recomned a make and type Pleasee that is the best Thank u
Top choice is for a 5w-40 synthetic, if you want the very best of these then its the ester based synthetics such as the Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300v, Redline and Gulf Comp.
Have a browse http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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Hi guy, whats your recommendations for a 96 GTI 16v with 160 thou on the clock and totaly standard. cheers Ron
As above mate, 5w-40 synthetic would be the top choice http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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what oil would i be looking at for my mk3 golf gti j reg 1992 i would want the best spec oil i can get for it :)
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I would use a 5w-40 synthetic and you will find those through the link below.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Gulf Formula G, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Synt S are good, cheaper alternatives.
As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR or Motul 6100
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
Regards
Tim
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Cheers Tim will be placing my order :)
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hi
i have a mk4 1.8t 02 which does around 4-5k a year mainly short runs. its remapped to 210 on a AGU engine is 5w 40 the best choice?
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5w-40 is ideal, changed every 10,000-12,000 or once a year, what ever comes first.
Loads to choose from http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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best oil or a mk1 golf 1.3 driver?
Engine is on 140k and sounding a little tapperty..
what do you think to the magnetec?
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Magntec will be fine, though its over priced for what it is.
Any well branded good quality 10w-40 semi synthetic will be ideal http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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What oil is best for my MK5 Golf GTI 2005 DSG with 88,000 Miles on?
Will it need a different oil due to the engine Mileage?
Thanks
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Hi
No need to change the oil, I'd stick with one of the VW ones. If it is on an annual/10k miles service, you need an oil that meets the 502.00 specification. If it's the variable service schedule, you need an oil that meets the 504.00 spec.
502.00 - http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-746-vw-50200-oil.aspx
504.00 - http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-749-vw-50400-oil.aspx
The 504.00 oils are all good oils, so make your decision based on any brand/price preference you have. With the 502.00 oils, go for a 0w-30, 5w30 or 0w-40 or 5w-40.
Cheers
Tim
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From the 1st May 2010, what was formerly known as the Fuchs Silkolene Powersport Range (which included products such as Silkolene Pro S, Silkolene Pro R, Silkolene SYN 5 and Silkolene Boa 90LS) will be renamed Fuchs Titan Race.
(http://www.opieoils.co.uk/images/upload/titan-race.jpg)
The Silkolene name will remain exclusively on the Motorcycle range of products.
Fuchs have said that existing users of the Fuchs Silkolene Powersport (4 wheel) products can rest assured that the exacting standards will be maintained and improved within the Titan Race range.
Fuchs have also stated.
“Titan Race is the pinnacle of performance within the Fuchs brand family and further significant product additions will be introduced. Our long established partnerships with our in-house R&D teams and world class motorsport teams and engine builders ensures the consumer receive the very latest products designed using the most advanced technologiesâ€
The products that are affected by this change of name are as follows
Fuchs Silkolene Pro S 5w-30 will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race Pro S 5w-30
Fuchs Silkolene Pro S 5w-40 will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race Pro S 5w-40
Fuchs Silkolene Pro S 10w-50 will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race Pro S 10w-50
Fuchs Silkolene Pro R 0w-20 will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race Pro R 0w-20
Fuchs Silkolene Pro R 15w-50 will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race Pro R 15w-50
Fuchs Silkolene Silktran SYN 5 75w-90 will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race SYN 5 75w-90
Fuchs Silkolene Pro SRG75 will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race SRG75
Fuchs Silkolene BOA 90LS will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race Gear 90LS
Fuchs Silkolene Comp Gear 80w-90 will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race Comp Gear 80w-90
Fuchs Silkolene ProCool will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race ProCool
Fuchs Silkolene ProFST will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race FST
Fuchs Silkolene ProCCA Ultra will be changed to Fuchs Titan Race CCA Ultra
Fuchs Silkolene Pro Race 2000 Brake Fluid will be changed to Fuchs Titan Racing Brake Fluid
There are also two new engine oil grades that will be available in May 2010 and they are
Fuchs Titan Race Pro S 10w-60
Fuchs Titan Race Pro R 20w-50
www.opieoils.co.uk will be retailing the renamed products as and when existing stocks of the Silkolene products are depleted so there will be a changeover period.
Having been a key UK retailer of the Silkolene products over the last 5 years we are both excited and supportive of this change which ensures that these quality oils stay at the cutting edge of technology and performance.
The www.opieoils.co.uk Team
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Hi not sure if you still check this feed but thought I'd post something just in case.
I recently purchased a mk4 2002 1.8 GTi T. At the moment the engine oil level is fine and it was recently serviced before I bought it. At some point in the not too distant future I am going to have to purchase some top up oil when the level starts to drop. As I have no idea what oil was put in before what would you recommend that I buy in order to top it up and would you stick with that when it comes around to the next service?
Thanks,
Joe
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All oils mix, so I would probably top up with a 5w-40 synthetic till next oil change.
Cheers
Guy
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Thanks for that
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Alright dude need some advise, Going to be giving the MKii a Major service very soon and need to know what is goign to be the best oil its a 91' 16v Kjet
Now the car has 150k on the clock and think the last service was at 140k, but will need to check the service book to see when that was done as i know the car was in storage for a while
and any suggestions on whats best to flush the old oil to get rid of any crap :wink:
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Hi
I would use a 5w-40 synthetic when it's ready and you will find those through the link below.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Synt S are good, cheaper alternatives.
As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR, Millers XSS or Motul 6100
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
I wouldn't use an engine flush product as they can be harmful. What can happen is the flush can loosen harmless deposits in the engine, but then not remove them. Your new oil goes in and after it gets warm and is flowing nicely, the bits which are loosened come off into the oil, so you end up with hard bits floating around in your oil - the last thing you want. If you really want to flush the oil system, the best thing you can do is drain out the oil that is in there, put in some cheap (the cheapest you can find) mineral oil and run the car for 15 minutes so the oil gets nice and warm. After running it, drain out the mineral oil and put in the correct oil.
Cheers
Tim
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cheers for the advice dude :cool:
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yo oil man
what oil do you advise for the 2.8v6 4-motion,
i used opie to get fuchs titan and motul for my past evo,
the car has got 48k on the clock
cheers james
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I would be tempted by a good 5w-40 synthetic, changed every 10,000 miles or once a year, whatever comes first http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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hey oilman, another question about what oil to use in my engine!!!
got a 2000 mk4 gti 1.8t arz with stage 1 remap.
please can you recomend me the best oil to put in here??
many thanks, rio.
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Hi Rio
The best thing will be something like the Fuchs Pro S, Redline, Motul 300V, Gulf Competition or Millers CFS. If your budget doesn't stretch to those, the Motul X-Cess, Millers XFS, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Super 3000 are good choices. With the prices at the moment, the Gulf is a really good option.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Cheers
Tim
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hey tim, thanks for the reply,
so good 5w-40 fully synthetic would be whats needed??
many thankks, rio.
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Yep, ideal :cool:
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hi whats the best available for my 1990 16v kjet golf gti? its done 224k but been looked after and always decent oil etc used.
cheers
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Hi
I would use a 5w-40 synthetic and you will find those through the link below.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Shell Helix, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.
As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR, Millers XSS or Motul 6100
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
Cheers
Tim
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ideal cheers for the quick answer.
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hi mate looking to change the oil on my recently purchased y reg 2.0l mk4 gti non turbo just passed the 100k mark please could you sudgest one also do you guys recommend oil filters?????
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A good 5w-40 synthetic changed every 10-12,000 miles or once a year, what ever comes first http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40-engine-oil.aspx
Filters here http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-1311-by-brand.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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oil man....
2000 1.8 turbo 20v aug , golf gti
103,000 miles
used and abused on road, what oil?
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Hi
I would use a 5w-40 synthetic and you will find those through the link below.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Millers CFS, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Fuchs Supersyn, Shell Helix and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.
Cheers
Tim
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Im pretty sure im the same as above post twizted6666,
have a 2000 Xreg golf gti 8v, 88,000miles, used only on road,
what oil please? 5w-40w fully synth oil?
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Hi
Yes, a 5w-40 would be ideal.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40-engine-oil.aspx
Cheers
Tim
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hi have a golf gti 1.8t AUM when i start the car cold it is fine and when i have been driving for 1h/2h and park up and turn the engine of for 10 min or more it will start up but runs like crap it will rev high and miss fire if i rev it or if i leave it to do it own thing it will cut out sum time .if i drive like it for about 10mins it will go and sort it self out and run spot on with now probs but if i tune it off it will do it but ones the engine is cold it will start with no probs. if have pluged it in to my laptop and scanned the car it comes bk saying engine coolen senor signal high i have change all coil pks and plugs i dont now what to do i am going to put a new engine coolen senor on it but will this work or not need HELP plz
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mk4 golf gti 1.8 turbo 20v agu, forge dv, air filter, turbo back exhaust, r tech stage 1 remap, 220hp 110,000 miles track use abused - what oil
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I'd go for a really good 5w-40 oil, like the Millers CFS, Redline, Fuchs Pro S, Motul 300V or Gulf Competition.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40-engine-oil.aspx
Cheers
Tim
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I have a 2000 2.0 8v . it does use a fair bit of oil bearing this in mind what would you recommend is there any oil which would deal with this better.?
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How much oil is it using, say over 1000 miles? Unless it is excessive I would still go with 5w-40.
Cheers
Guy
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I reckon a litre and a half. Was thinking 5w 40 any particular make suit it better?
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That's quite a lot of oil to burn over 1000 miles. There's two ways to go with it, 5w-40 synthetic as the best for protection, 10w-40 semi-synthetic as best for the wallet.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Shell Helix, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.
Here are the 10w-40s we have and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR, Shell Helix, Millers XSS or Motul 6100
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
Cheers
Tim
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which grade would you recomend for my 2000 gti 150bhp 105k miles turbo a bit tired and whines on 5w 30 though . looking for a budget oil while i save for a new turbo
thanks
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Go for a 5w-40, Fuchs Supersyn is a bargain at the moment
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-984-fuchs-titan-supersyn-5w-40-high-performance-fully-synthetic-engine-oil.aspx
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thank you
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HI there just bought a 2.0 mk4 gti , I know it's not the best of engines but the car is straight and tidy runs well was wondering what grade of oil to put in it is just over 100k on the clock ...
better off with a thicker oil due to mileage?/
many thanks ash :smiley:
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Hi Ash
A 5w-40 is ideal.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Shell Helix, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.
As a cheaper option, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR, Shell Helix, Millers XSS or Motul 6100
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
Cheers
Tim
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Thanks very much thats a great help , planning to do oil and filter as soon as it comes into my hands :smiley:
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Hi Guy, i have a 1999 MK4 vw golf gti 1.8T AGU.
Im using 10w 40 castrol magnitec .Is 5w 40 better.And ok for my car.Whats better castrol edge or castrol magnitec.Also is K&N Performance Gold HP-2005 Oil Filter ok to fit on my car.
Kind regards, james. :smiley:
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Hi James
Yes, I'd go for the 5w-40 rather than 10w-40. Yes, that seems to be the right filter.
Cheers
Tim
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Hi Tim,
ended up getting 0w 40 castrol edge sport as couldnt find 5w 40. :embarassed: Hope its ok,thanks for the reply/help.
Kind regards, james. :smiley:
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Hi James
That should be absolutely fine.
Cheers
Tim
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That is fine, the 10w-40 Quantum is just an every semi just like most.
Next step up is to a 5w-40 synthetic.
Cheers
Guy.
hi guy, what oil would you recommend for my car ? its a vw golf 1.8 gti turbo (aum) engine code 2001 model, many thanks....
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Hi
A 5w-40 is ideal.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Millers CFS, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Shell Helix, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.
Cheers
Tim
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Hi im fitting new conrods and piston rings in my 1.8t 2000 AGU and a need some break in/mineral oil. What oil do you sugest?
Thanks Jon
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Millers CRO is ideal
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-60229-millers-oils-cro-10w-40-competition-running-in-oil.aspx
Cheers
Tim
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That looks perfect cheers
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whats recomended for a golf gti turbo agu (1999) running 430 bhp ? used alot on the drag strip ive brought millers motorsport
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Probably a 10w-50 is the best option. Any idea how hot the oil is getting?
Cheers
Tim
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not sure about oil temp need to get a guage 10w 50 is what i used millers motorsport
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I'd stick with that for now, but when you get a gauge fitted let me know what the temp gets to and I might be able to suggest a better option.
Cheers
Tim
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i was just wondering if the gearbox will really be damaged if dexron II fluid is used as it is so much cheaper than the approved gearbox fluid..:)
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i ended up shelling out £30 quid for 5L of gearbox oil that was approved for this while the cheaper dexron is half the price!
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Is it a manual or auto box you have?
Cheers
Guy
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hi i got the chance to get some free oil of my friend and would like to no if its any good for my vw golf gti 1.8 20v non turbo? its mobil 1 extended life 10w-60 fully snythectic vw501.01/505.00 and it says "especially designed for cars with hight mileage" which mine is its got 140867. thanks
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Hi
No, it's not really suitable, a 5w-40 or 10w-40 is a much better choice.
Cheers
Tim
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Hi
No, it's not really suitable, a 5w-40 or 10w-40 is a much better choice.
Cheers
Tim
hi there tim, can you tell me if this will be good for my gf 1.8 20v n/a??
she got about 90k on it
(also will it be the same as my 1.8t think i put 5w-40 fuly synth in it befor??)
many thanks rio
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Hi Rio
Yes, I'd go for a 5w-40 or 10w-40
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Shell Helix, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.
As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR, Shell Helix, Millers XSS or Motul 6100
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
Cheers
Tim
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Hi Rio
Yes, I'd go for a 5w-40 or 10w-40
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
Out of those, the best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Shell Helix, Fuchs Supersyn and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.
As a budget choice, a 10w-40 will be fine and I would either go for the Fuchs XTR, Shell Helix, Millers XSS or Motul 6100
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-657-10w-40.aspx
Cheers
Tim
hey tim dropped a clanger for some reason i kept thinking 5w-30 and put this in the 1.8 n/a is this gonna be bad for it??? what would the difference be??
also shall i put the 5w-30 in my arz or keep it to 5w-40 (noticed when i used 5w-40 befor the mpg decreased :undecided: )
many thanks, rio
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A 5w-30 should be fine, but you may find that it burns more oil than with a 5w-40.
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so now shall i keep topping up with 5w-30 or top up with 5w-40?
also shall i stick with 5w-40 in my arz then?
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Hi
You can top up with 5w-30 or 5w-40, either is fine. If it's burning off much oil, top up with the 5w-40.
The 5w-40 will be fine in the ARZ.
Cheers
Tim
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Due a service soon. Just recently bought the car. What oil should i put in? I've been looking at 5w-30? Car is a 1.8T AGU. Mileage is 115,000.
Cheers
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You could use a 5w-30, although you might find that it burns a bit. I'd go for a 5w-40 as it shouldn't burn off too quickly.
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-656-5w-40.aspx
The best ones are the Fuchs/Silkolene Pro S, Millers CFS/CFS NT, Motul 300V, Redline and Gulf Competition. The Motul 8100 X-Cess, Millers XFS, Fuchs Supersyn, Shell Helix and Mobil Super 3000 are good, cheaper alternatives.
Cheers
Tim
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i can vouch for 5w-30 burning oil. always ran 5w-40 quantum then put in 5w-30 castrol edge and burned nearly half a litre over 1000 miles. 5w-30 is too fine imo for a 1.8t
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Hi. I've got a 2000 2.0 8v. According to your site a 5w-40 is recommended. I'll only be covering a max of 6k per year and be servicing it every year. Would a 10w-40 be ok under these circumstances?
P.S. No track days..........It's too slow!!! :laugh:
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I'm about to embark on a major service and overhaul of my 1990 1.8 16v Corrado. I very occasionally encounter difficulty engaging second gear although no crunching unless I release the clutch too early! :rolleyes:. I've looked at the Redline MT oils, and was just wondering which would be better (MTL-75/80 GL4 Lub, or MT90 GL4). Car has done approx 160k, although gearbox was a recon item at TSR in 2008 so may well be an exchange. Cheers!. :smiley:
Update; I went for the MT90. Obviously slightly heavier therefore slightly better protection at higher temps.
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Oilman - great to see you on here. I don't know why it has taken me 2 weeks to find your thread (I didn't think you were here). You have been a source of great info for me for at least the last 8 years, on many different forums for my cars.
Anyway - I have recently bought a Mk3 GTi 8V with 90k miles. I have no idea if the last service in the book is real, I suspect not by the rusty filter and mild coke build up in the breather hose. I am assuming it has been 25k since the last oil change and a good build up of carbon has occurred.
Knowing that an oil flush product is not recommended, what oil should I use to get a maximum cleaning effect and how long should I run it before I drop that out and put a decent 5-40 synthetic in? Should I budget for more than one cycle?
Cheers.
Jim
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Hi,
My mk3 golf gti 16v needs a top up of oil. What is the best type to use please and how much should I top it up by???
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Hi,
Just wondering what to use to top up the GTI? The oil lid suggests Castrol?
The car has done 3k and 2 of those 3 have been motorway cruises.
What do you think I should use?
Cheers
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do you do have any oils that are compatable with methanol / nitromethane fuels something like a 10/50 w
for a high revving & output NA sprint/autotest/hillclimb engine
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Hi there Oilman!
I have a Golf mk3 Gti 2.0 16v, When I go on to Eurocarparts and enter my reg they only recommend fully synthetic oils. I want to service my car soon but have been told that using a fully synthetic oil in an old engine is not good for it and where possible a semi synthetic oil should be used.
Is there any truth in this? And if there were how would I know what semi synthetic to choose?
Thank you in advance!
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Have just done some reading up and was trying to decide which gearbox oil would be best between the Redline MTL and the MT90? It's for a 1991 8v, with just the slightest hint of stiffness in 1st and 2nd when really cold.
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What's the best oil and the best economy oil for my Golf mk4 tdi y reg?
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well, which TDI??? engine code?
there are some that have very specific needs (Pumpe Düse)...... those need vw spec 505.01 which are primarily 5w40 (there are some 5w30 oils as well but they tend to be low ash and more expensive than good 5w40 oils with 505.01).
despite the missing info you can use 5w40 with 505.01 spec for all diesels in the mk4 (assuming no LL)
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As above, VW505.01 5w-40, all these are approved http://www2.opieoils.co.uk/c-751-vw-50501-oil.aspx
Cheers
Guy
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Hi Oilman,
recently got a MK6 Golf GTD, and looking for some engine oil. What specification oil would be fine for it? I've had a look at the information page on your website for VW oils, and not sure which out of them would apply.
505.01 seems to be the only one that is on fixed service intervals, though not sure if a specific spec is needed for CR diesels with DPFs.
I typically get Castrol Edge, but unsure of whether to get 5w30, which supports 504/507 , or Turbo Diesel 5W40, which supports 505/505/505.01
I would have thought it would be the 5W40 version as thats diesel specific, but most online checkers seem to point to 5W30?
Can I have some advice on which would be suitable?
Thanks,
Jonny
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as it has dpf only option is 5w30 with 504.00/507.00
for top up you'd be ok with a c3 oil though... think the manual allows you to add a max of 0.5l of that as it's low ash irrespective of viscosity
but if you have to buy some then go for 5w30 504/507
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Thanks for that. The gtd is due a service next month so it will get whatever oil vw give her, but I always like to have a top up bottle handy just in case of emergencies or a leak etc. I still have an unopened 4ltr can of Castrol Edge from my Leon, so it's handy that I can use that.
Cheers
Jonny
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Hi Jonny
itavaltalainen is spot on.
Cheers
Tim
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I have a MY 2010 Golf GTI unmodified. The handbook recommends using 5w30 fully synthetic spec 504/507. I am on a fixed mileage/annual service regime. The garage at the last service put in 5w40 to the same spec. Which should I be using? Many thanks.
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Hi
The oil you need depends on the service schedule the car is on. If it is on an annual/10k miles service, you need an oil that meets the 502.00 specification. If it's the variable service schedule, you need an oil that meets the 504.00 spec.
502.00 - http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-746-vw-50200-oil.aspx
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On fixed intervals you can use 502.00 spec oils. I'd go for a decent 5w40 or 0w40 (you can tell those if they have MB 229.5 approval in addition to VW 502.00).
BTW there is no 5w40 oil that fulfills 504.00/507.00 as these specs ask for 5w30 viscosity.
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Hi
The oil you need depends on the service schedule the car is on. If it is on an annual/10k miles service, you need an oil that meets the 502.00 specification. If it's the variable service schedule, you need an oil that meets the 504.00 spec.
502.00 - http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-746-vw-50200-oil.aspx
504.00 - http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-749-vw-50400-oil.aspx
The 504.00 oils are all good oils, so make your decision based on any brand/price preference you have. With the 502.00 oils, go for a 0w-30, 5w30 or 0w-40 or 5w-40.
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Tim
Thanks Guys very helpful
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