1.8GTI Turbo or 2.3 V5?

[rainesy]

1.8 turbo will be the best buy ive got one and my mate had a v5 and mine slaughters it and ther is a few people saying buying 180 bhp dont because if you go down to extreme they will fit you a baileys dump valva for ?200 and it sounds great and also for ?513 they will fit you a super chip witch will gain you 55bhp bringing you to 205bhp and when you come roaring up the v5 bum and give the dump valve little whip and fly off they dont know whats hit them.

[mr v5]

1.8 turbo will be the best buy ive got one and my mate had a v5 and mine slaughters it and ther is a few people saying buying 180 bhp dont because if you go down to extreme they will fit you a baileys dump valva for ?200 and it sounds great and also for ?513 they will fit you a super chip witch will gain you 55bhp bringing you to 205bhp and when you come roaring up the v5 bum and give the dump valve little whip and fly off they dont know whats hit them.

 we are talkiing about standard cars here mate if i had all those mods on my v5 i would whip your arse and you wouldnt know what hit you

[golfvr6]

Can probably get a bolt on supercharger kit for the v5.

[Franko180]

I made some comment about this in another thread, but heres my take on it anyway. The original Golf V5 2.3 was 150bhp, same as the original 1.8T. In summer this year a I swapped my 1.8t 150 with my mates v5 150 for the night. I enjoyed the test, but overal we both agreed that the 1.8t is sharper, whereas the 2.3's delivery is more 'cruisy'.

On the plus side for the V5, it does have more standard kit from the factory than a 1.8t, the W reg (2000) one I drove had boot mounted 6CD player, Climate control, centre arm rest and the anti dazzle auto dipping mirror. My previous W reg 2000 1.8t GTi had the 6CD boot changer and the climate, but only because I added them from an options list. Also the V5 has that fantastic sounding howl, very V6-ish, I couldnt resist revving it in neutral at traffic lights to hear it! Haha

It all comes down to what you want, do you make long journeys, need comfort etc?

The 1.8t can be taken from 150 - 200+ BHP quite cheaply, but to tune a 150 2.3 I'm sure it would be much more expensive.

The current V5 is 170bhp, but then the current 1.8T is available at 180bhp, so again it just depends what you want from your car.

I'd always take the 1.8t, for tunability, drivability and the better shocks, recaro seats etc (plus I do a lot of mileage and still find it a comfortable car)

[sijunior]

I appreciate that the 180bhp SHOULD be quicker than the 150bhp 1.8T BUT!!!

I was out in my 150bhp 1.8T with my brother in law and he was in his Seat Leon Cupra 180bhp 1.8T with 20000 miles on the clock, And for a laugh we had a little race, and no word of a lie I was stuck to his arse all the way down the A404 and I had to pull off at 120mph because my misses started crying (dosent like speed) Either his car is'nt running very well or my car has been  re-maped before I got hold of it.

Any sugestions

[sijunior]

OH And MR VR5 I have slaughtered a V5 in my STANDARD 1.8T

A 1.8T would have F@#ked off before the V5 even reached 3500rpm

[golfvr6]

A standard v5 and 1.8t will have fairly similar performance.

[Slim Shady]

the t's the better motor

if not just for the power/weight ratio

[Franko180]

I appreciate that the 180bhp SHOULD be quicker than the 150bhp 1.8T BUT!!!

I was out in my 150bhp 1.8T with my brother in law and he was in his Seat Leon Cupra 180bhp 1.8T with 20000 miles on the clock, And for a laugh we had a little race, and no word of a lie I was stuck to his arse all the way down the A404 and I had to pull off at 120mph because my misses started crying (dosent like speed) Either his car is'nt running very well or my car has been  re-maped before I got hold of it.

Any sugestions

Well Sijunior from my experiences the 180 engine on the road is definately quicker. I had a 1999 and a 2000 150 1.8t and was happy with them, then a guy at work got a 180 Leon Cupra and it was noticeably quicker and made the 150 feel a little flat. I still preffered the Golf due to the better quality and far nicer dashboard/stereo/climate control unit. I got my 180 Gti in June this year and have been very pleased with it, again much sharper acceleration than the 150. So either your mate doesn't know how to rev his Cupra(!) or your car has been remap'd.

[golfvr6]

I would still go for the v5, similar performance. I think there is still a question mark over how long these turbos are going to last, especially with everyone revving the nuts off of them. Costs could get high if the turbo goes wrong. Depends how long you want to keep the car.