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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Golf mk3 gallery => Topic started by: Ferdinor on 18 December 2011, 21:09
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Ok well as some of you may know i currently own a mk3 1.4cl lowered but pretty standard, now i have always wanted to do a project build and want it to last a good year if not more due to funds, time and so on but it has now begun.
So this is going to be a very slow thread but i want to do everything properly and i want it to look good at the end rather than rush it.
I know this has been done so many times and i should go out and buy a mk4 1.8t but i dont want to aha and this thread is more for extra help and advice i can get from people that have done it or seen it done before, after speaking to LazyLunatic i got the basic idea of what engine i want and a few other bits and bobs, also speaking to rubjonny helped me out with what looms i need and what is required to do it myself, i have also done about 1 months worth of research and well enough talking on to the pictures
On saturday i went to see this...............
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0040.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0042.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0050.jpg)
Saturday evening i then got a phone call from the guy saying him and his dad had removed the engine comeplete, ecu and loom would i wanna collect that night so last night i went and collected it in the back of my mums car, well this morning soon came and it was time for me and my dad to remove from the boot WITH NO ENGINE HAUST! my god it was heavy! aha
Out of the car
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0054.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0055.jpg)
removed the gearbox, clutch, flywheel, alternator, starter motor well most of the bolt on bits to make it lighter, didnt get any photos of it after but will take some tomorrow.
So also in with the engine i have this lot to play with................
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0059.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0060.jpg)
Sorry about the bad photos all taken on my phone aha
also got the key and ecu also in this photo are some gauges i got hold of cheap
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0061.jpg)
so the work will start now, going to take the engine cover of tomorrow along with the turbo and carb inlet to clean and polish them up well not the turbo aha, i shall take plenty of photos on my way through.
But i do have a couple of questions i know i need the gti gearbox, clutch, flywheel, starter motor, but does it have to be the 16v or can it be the 8v????
Also i know at the top of this photo is the alternator now what are the two below it does anyone know? i think its either oil pump, power steering pump or water pump? anyone know photo here.......
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0058.jpg)
I hope there isnt to much reading here aha, any comments/help is welcome :smiley:
cheers
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The 2 units under the alternator are a/c compresser and pas pump.
You would be wise to scrap the dump valve btw they do not like them.
Good luck with it. :smiley:
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chances are if you are asking what those items below the alternator are your gonna struggle with this LOL
Remove that AC compressor and bin it, you will need a Aux belt thats for a car without AC, i have the part number in my files of the belt u will need
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Well im pretty sure the only way you can learn is to do, and this is the reason i made this thread is so i can ask for help from people that have done it before, i mean im not completely stupid but i race bikes not cars aha
Right so the a/c compressor is no longer required but the bottom pump (pas pump) is required, if you do have the part number for that belt that would be great, if it cant be found could i not just leave the pump in place unconnected? :smiley:
well the dump valve was chucked in, im not a massive fan of them anyway, what would be a better option to put in its place?
Cheers
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id remove it if its not needed mate....less weight etc :wink:
u want the 007p diverter valve from awesome gti altho theres the 008 out i think now
good luck with this will be watching :smiley:
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Right so the a/c compressor is no longer required but the bottom pump (pas pump) is required
Does yours have PAS if so then yes you should be able to adapt it to work with your rack, starting with a 1.4 does not make things easy as so much needs changing.
well the dump valve was chucked in, im not a massive fan of them anyway, what would be a better option to put in its place?
Forge 007p is the best choice.
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As said above stick with a recirc valve over a dump valve :wink:
Will be an interesting project to watch, as you've already said the best way to learn is to get stuck in and do it yourself :cool:
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Oh sorry didnt explain that bit to well did i, the plan is to buy another cheap golf to put this in, as i need to keep my car on the road and i have the space for a second car so i can take as long as i wish, now i will be going for mk gti 8v or 16v depepnding on if the gearbox, clutch and flywheel are diffrent between the 8v and 16v so im guessing the pas pump will be required? i would prefer to not have power steering tbh would it be easier without it? aha
So where the dump valve currently is, i would be better of with a forge 007p is that correct?
Aha sorry about all the questions i will get this eventally :grin:
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The PAS pump will work with the MK3 set up
i Used the S3 pump on my conversion
Get a 16v abf golf mate, will make your conversion much easier and less stuff to source
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The PAS pump will work with the MK3 set up
i Used the S3 pump on my conversion
Get a 16v abf golf mate, will make your conversion much easier and less stuff to source
Thank you i will have to decide weather i want to have power steering or not, from the cars i have driven so far i much prefer my golf without powersteering as you can feel the road better, but i shall decide what is easier and go from there.
As said above stick with a recirc valve over a dump valve :wink:
Will be an interesting project to watch, as you've already said the best way to learn is to get stuck in and do it yourself :cool:
Thanks mate i love getting stuck in cant wait to finish it even though i have just started, shame money is such an issue really :cry: aha
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Looking forward to seeing this progress. I think you'll want to keep the power steering though with a 1.8t up front. Lot more weight compared to a 1.4.
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Fook me.. brave lad. Fair play to you, best way to learn. Best of luck on this.
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Looking forward to seeing this progress. I think you'll want to keep the power steering though with a 1.8t up front. Lot more weight compared to a 1.4.
Yes very good point, also as im buying the 8v or 16v it will all be there already so i guess it would be easier to plum in rather than taking it all out :smiley:
Fook me.. brave lad. Fair play to you, best way to learn. Best of luck on this.
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Thank you, i know its a big move but im hoping i can learn loads on the way and everyone on here seems very helpful so im sure i will get through it, plus my dad normally helps me and he knows a fair bit about cars.
cheers mate :smiley:
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As mentioned, buy a 16v to transplant into and you'll have an easier time installing it as its got a hydro clutch and cable gearbox. Good luck fella.
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Thanks for your reply mate, just a quick question whats the difference between the 8v and 16v? apart from the number of valves? :grin:
As in gearbox? clutch? flywheel? and so on? :smiley:
cheers
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As mentioned, buy a 16v to transplant into and you'll have an easier time installing it as its got a hydro clutch and cable gearbox. Good luck fella.
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The Mk3 16v will also have bigger brakes which, if you leave the 1.8T at stock power will be ok for a while.
If you buy the 16v, you'll also be able to sell the 16v engine on to someone who'll put it into a Mk2 Golf :grin:
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Not totally true, later 8v has 288mm brakes and wide track aswel, and also has the pedal box capable of excepting hydro clutch. Still get a 16v saves sourcing the parts it hasnt got fitted lol. Make sure you keep gearbox and fly wheel though.
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8v has a 020 gearbox which are notoriously week. If your running more than stock 8v gti (and with this engine and possible future mods, your gonna be running FAR more!) it will fail in a very short time! 16v uses 02a, and that will bolt straight on as well, and is a good strong box. As said, a late 8v has 288mm front brakes. 8v has a cable clutch compared to the 16v hydro. Late 8v (95>) pedalbox has the connections to accept hydro Pipework. 16v is honestly the better base. You will have less of a headache during the conversion if starting with one. You will also be able to get more for parts you are stripping out of it to make some money back, and won't have to pay much more than you would for an 8v to begin with. :smiley:
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Nice thread dude! I'll be keeping an eye on this as i intend on starting an engine conversion late next year. Good luck :)
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Thank you for the great information, i shall be trying to source a very cheap 16v once i have saved up a couple of pay checks, as said in the first post this is gunna be a slow thread (very slow) due to lack of money, but i will try and update everything i do :smiley:
After everything said i have a much better idea already the only bit i am dreading is doing the wireing myself as i just cant afford £600 for qpeng, i am very good with electronics and so is my dad so hopefully i can do it :huh:
I really wanted to stick with 4 stud tbh, i have heard the g60 front brakes would be good enough for stock power and the mk2 gti disks on the rear?
The reason i want 4 stud is because i may have a nice set of rims ready to go on when this is done, i guess i could run 5 stud steelies at the start then convert to 4 stud?
I shall be taking some photos later of the engine starting to be striped will be taking the top cover of and the inlet manifold of to start polishing will update late tonight :smiley:
Thanks for all the help so far
cheers
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Stick with 4 stud, much better choice of wheels :wink:
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Stick with 4 stud, much better choice of wheels :wink:
It's funny that when u hav 5 stud you can't find the wheels you want, so you have to add expensive adaptors into the equasion. Then you go 4 stud, and every set of decent wheels that comes up are friggin 5 stud! :rolleyes:
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Stick with 4 stud, much better choice of wheels :wink:
It's funny that when u hav 5 stud you can't find the wheels you want, so you have to add expensive adaptors into the equasion. Then you go 4 stud, and every set of decent wheels that comes up are friggin 5 stud! :rolleyes:
I think the 4 stud issue happens when you fancy something a little old skool. Lucky for me I don't think there's ever been a 5 stud wheel I've fancied for it.
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I found that! When I had my Vento 1.8 8v all I the wheels I wanted were 5 stud. Then I got my VR6 and all the wheels I wanted were 4 stud! Then I got my current MK3 and I ended up getting adapters :laugh:
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I found that! When I had my Vento 1.8 8v all I the wheels I wanted were 5 stud. Then I got my VR6 and all the wheels I wanted were 4 stud! Then I got my current MK3 and I ended up getting adapters :laugh:
That's the trouble I suppose when you have cars that are from a crossover period.
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I found that! When I had my Vento 1.8 8v all I the wheels I wanted were 5 stud. Then I got my VR6 and all the wheels I wanted were 4 stud! Then I got my current MK3 and I ended up getting adapters :laugh:
That's the trouble I suppose when you have cars that are from a crossover period.
Definitely true man!
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If you buy a 16v though that would be wide track, am i wrong in thinking that if u changed the hubs from 5 stud to 4 stud would the drive shaft splines match 4 stud hubs? Before i get my head bitten off i dont know so chucking that one out there?
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Well i much prefer 4 stud rims to 5 stud and im not really into adapters, if im going through a complete car build/converstion i may aswell change it to how i want it :laugh:
If you buy a 16v though that would be wide track, am i wrong in thinking that if u changed the hubs from 5 stud to 4 stud would the drive shaft splines match 4 stud hubs? Before i get my head bitten off i dont know so chucking that one out there?
As for this? is this true does anyone know? as this may cause me some problems? thanks for putting the point out there, you might have saved me some ball ache? :huh:
cheers
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If your using a 16v (5 stud) as a base car stick with 5 stud, adaptors need to be custom made and are mega bucks, to convert back to 4 stud is not really easy, so many different ways but you may as well get wheels that fit and save the money.
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I agree, its gonna be easier just to change the wheels than get adapters made up. What are the wheels you have already?
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Well i much prefer 4 stud rims to 5 stud and im not really into adapters, if im going through a complete car build/converstion i may aswell change it to how i want it :laugh:
If you buy a 16v though that would be wide track, am i wrong in thinking that if u changed the hubs from 5 stud to 4 stud would the drive shaft splines match 4 stud hubs? Before i get my head bitten off i dont know so chucking that one out there?
As for this? is this true does anyone know? as this may cause me some problems? thanks for putting the point out there, you might have saved me some ball ache? :huh:
cheers
I thought you could change the flanges on the 02a to the 020 ones and keep the existing drive shafts?
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I agree, its gonna be easier just to change the wheels than get adapters made up. What are the wheels you have already?
I dont already have them but the ones i want only come in 4 stud, i have not decide as to what im going to do yet, ill just wait and see how much of a ball ache its going to be and go from there :smiley:
Well i much prefer 4 stud rims to 5 stud and im not really into adapters, if im going through a complete car build/converstion i may aswell change it to how i want it :laugh:
If you buy a 16v though that would be wide track, am i wrong in thinking that if u changed the hubs from 5 stud to 4 stud would the drive shaft splines match 4 stud hubs? Before i get my head bitten off i dont know so chucking that one out there?
As for this? is this true does anyone know? as this may cause me some problems? thanks for putting the point out there, you might have saved me some ball ache? :huh:
cheers
I thought you could change the flanges on the 02a to the 020 ones and keep the existing drive shafts?
I have no idea tbh with you but im sure someone on here will know the answer to that, but i know the 02a box is stronger than the 020 so can drive shafts have weak points aswell or are they ok? :huh:
cheers
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Problem is if you change the flanges so u could fit drive shafts from a car with 020 gearbox on a factory 16v car they wont be long enuff as the only factory golf with 020 box and wide track i assume would be a MK3 8v and thats 5 stud so again u would have the length but still have spline issue, may be wrong but would it not be better to change the end of the drive shaft for ones off a 4 stud if the CV joints match? If that makes any sence lol.
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Problem is if you change the flanges so u could fit drive shafts from a car with 020 gearbox on a factory 16v car they wont be long enuff as the only factory golf with 020 box and wide track i assume would be a MK3 8v and thats 5 stud so again u would have the length but still have spline issue, may be wrong but would it not be better to change the end of the drive shaft for ones off a 4 stud if the CV joints match? If that makes any sence lol.
Aha this is all getting a little confusing now :P im sure when i come to it i will work out what is what and see what i can do, if its that much trouble i will run with 5 stud steelies and then change the hubs at a later date, need to get hold of a 16v first :tongue:
I have been doing some work on the engine last night and this morning, i have taken of the rocker cover and started to take bits of to clean or replace them when i have the money, i have taken a few photos as iv been going along so i remember what goes where and so i can post some progress as i go, not that much to see but here re some shots :smiley:
The dirty rocker cover
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0063.jpg)
Once removed
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0074.jpg)
Was happy with how clean the engine was under the cover no pit marks and so on.
After this i removed the pipe what goes to the IC to give it a polish
before
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0080.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0086.jpg)
Then after a quick polish, will do it again soon
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0091.jpg)
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(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0089.jpg)
Was pretty happy with how it came out even after a 10 minute polish, will do it again before it goes on :smiley:
Now i was Just wondering when i was taking some bits and bobs of, i realised when the guy took the engine out he had cut two water pipes, i have taken a photo of them and was wondering where they would normally go as they are right at the back of the turbo and have a funny bend in them? shown here.......
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0079.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0077.jpg)
If anyone could let me know that would be great :smiley:
Will be cleaning the cover up after work or tomorrow depending on when i can be bothered, then i will be removing the inlet manifold and give that a polish, btw i know the injectors go into the top of the inlet manifold was wondering how do they come out? do they just pull out or are they screwed in?
Will update more when i get around to it :smiley:
Cheers
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think they go to the heater matrix bud
excellent build BTW :cool:
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think they go to the heater matrix bud
excellent build BTW :cool:
Thanks and thanks again mate, will need to get hold of some more pipes :smiley:
Im sure it will all make more sense when its sat in a bay :grin:
More to come soon guys :cool:
cheers
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Great ambition you have got mate i practiacly done the same as you, got a vr6 lump and took it all apart and painted and cleaned it, then i bought a mk2 golf and im re-building it from the ground up :smiley:
i learnt the way you are mate and i think just taking it apart and seeing how it works is the best way :smiley: and if it doesnt work theres loads of people on here that will help you :wink:
il be watching this thread mate keep it up :smiley:
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Hi guys, sorrry for the lack of comments i have been very busy recently but work on the 1.8t hasnt stopped, the piping i have is all polished up the rocker cover and manifold are now primed and ready to be sprayed, i now know what colour everything is going to be painted the reason i now know this, is because i have got hold of a vw golf gti whilst i will be collecting in the next couple of days so proggress will be going a bit quicker than i first planned but i cant wait!
Pictures to follow soon :cool:
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Hi guys, sorrry for the lack of comments i have been very busy recently but work on the 1.8t hasnt stopped, the piping i have is all polished up the rocker cover and manifold are now primed and ready to be sprayed, i now know what colour everything is going to be painted the reason i now know this, is because i have got hold of a vw golf gti whilst i will be collecting in the next couple of days so proggress will be going a bit quicker than i first planned but i cant wait!
Pictures to follow soon :cool:
Nice one bud!! Dragon green?
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i love these engine conversion threads,it makes me want to do one but im sh!t scared of starting one just incase i couldn't finish it
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i love these engine conversion threads,it makes me want to do one but im sh!t scared of starting one just incase i couldn't finish it
same here mate...
Very interesting thread by the way, I hope to learn a thing or to on this one :wink:
speaking of learning, has the 16V got a wider track than the 8V?
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on the driveshaft issue, if you keep four stud and wide track, get some mk2 outer cv joints and put them on the shafts so they'll go in the hubs. i had the opposite problem, i run mk3 hubs and such on my mk2 and destroyed the inner cvs on the mk3 shafts and couldnt use the so put my mk2 shafts on with mk3 ends.
good build so far by the way
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Ahhh i see thanks for the advice on the cv's might come in handy when i get to that point :laugh:
Its blackkkkkk plain and simple but i have some good plans for the engine bay, both rocker cover and manifold are primed ready for gloss ***** paint :wink:
I shall post piccies up but i just got back from a long shift at work and need sleep
I will also put some pictures up of something i collected today :cool:
Aha this projects going a bit faster than planned but im loving it cant wait to actually have some real updates :smiley:
Thanks for the kind words guys i mean this is a learning curve for me aswell but if it can help you guys aswell thats great :smiley:
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Its always a learning curve workin on cars. Lookin forward to updates
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Well here are some pictures as promised nothing much to see just little updates at the moment :smiley:
Didnt get a very good photo but just so you get an idea of how it looked before
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0055-1.jpg)
Then after sanding it smooth and a bit of filler primer
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0122.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0120.jpg)
Then this is how the rocker cover looked before
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0108.jpg)
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(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0106.jpg)
Now it looks something like this
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0119.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0123.jpg)
Pretty pleased on how they turned out :smiley:
Also got my donor car on saturday so i will post pictures up of that soon but its pissing down with rain atm so im removing seats and dash in the dry :smiley:
More updates will be coming very soon :drool:
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Looking good mate, but will that filler primer be ok with under bonnet temps? or will it start to crack?
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I wondered that myself.
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Think it will almost defiantly crack when up to temperature for long periods of time
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Just get some VHT black on it, job done! :smug:
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Yeah i was wondering weather it would handle the heat, but the rocker cover on my engine now got primed with non heat ressistant paint then covered over with heat ressistant paint and thats been on there nearly a year now and thats ok?
Massive update to come tonight guys :smiley:
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You should be OK with it not cracking although too much primer and paint on engine parts isn't going to aid cooling.
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Well ill spray them and when there fitted i will soon find out what happens aha :laugh:
Right so today i have been rather busy and got a fair amount done to the new golf i bought at the weekend, looks a bit like this
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0124.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0125.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0126.jpg)
Yes its black 5 door 8v gti i know i got told to get a 16v but i just do not have the budget to buy a 16v and this came up so cheap it would of been rude to turn it down
So up first is the interior front seats are now in my current daily rears seats are removed but havnt got around to fitting them in my golf yet, so heres what the interior of the new golf looks like
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0130.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0131.jpg)
Need to remove the whole of the dash board but im not sure how to do it does anyone know if there are some bolts or screws hidden somewhere? also how do i take a stearing wheel of with an airbag on it?
Ok so up next was getting the engine ready to come out (without an engine haust) got a fair amount done as you will see in the pictures, everything is disconected from the engine apart from two more bolts left on the manifold and the last engine mount but it got to dark to carry on but heres a few photos for you :smiley:
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0132.jpg)
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I was wondering if it would be possible to remove the engine without the gearbox to make it lighter? or is it not possible? does anyone know?
Thats it until sunday so i will update again then
cheers :smiley:
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Dont think it would be much lighter mate! them lumps are heavy :sick: use a jack, some rope and a few mates and watch your feet lol
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Ahhhh not really what i wanted to here aha, had to lift the 20v t out of the back of a car i was hoping this might be a bit lighter :laugh:
Hmmm well i think my dad said he will help sunday so hopefully me and him can do it :smiley:
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As for the steering wheel, Disconnect the battery (still connected in your photos) leave for about 15mins and there there are two bolts at the back of the steering wheel holding the air bag on, undo them and pull the airbag out, undo the wires and then undo the bolt that holds the wheel on, it a 27mm bolt I think, and also undo the three little screws around the bolt, they hod e boss to the wheel, and then pull the wheel off, being careful I case the boss is still stuck to the wheel, mine was and it broke the coiled wire for the airbag popped about and I had to buy a new one.
Hope that makes sence
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As for the steering wheel, Disconnect the battery (still connected in your photos) leave for about 15mins and there there are two bolts at the back of the steering wheel holding the air bag on, undo them and pull the airbag out, undo the wires and then undo the bolt that holds the wheel on, it a 27mm bolt I think, and also undo the three little screws around the bolt, they hod e boss to the wheel, and then pull the wheel off, being careful I case the boss is still stuck to the wheel, mine was and it broke the coiled wire for the airbag popped about and I had to buy a new one.
Hope that makes sence
Ahhh brilliant that you for that it sort of makes sense aha i guess it will be clearer when im in the car looking at the steering wheel :smiley:
I dont suppose you know how to remove the rest of the dash do you? :grin:
Cheers
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Yh hopefully it will be clearer in ther car, writing was never my strong point lol. No sorry haven't removed a dash before, was waiting for some to tell you myself as I was curious as to how it comes out lol
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Some bolts in thr scuttle arnt there. Long time since av done a mk3
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Yeah someone said there are a few bolts or screws or whatever behind the scuttle? but i dont even know how that comes out? they looked like screws but i undo them and they just spin so im not really sure? i dont want to pull on them because it might snap anybody know? aha
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Think you have to pull and undo them at the same time, :undecided:
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Ahhh i see maybe ill give it a go tomorrow i need it of to swap the ecu's over aha :laugh:
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Yeah there are 2 bolts under scuttle that need to be removed in order to get the dash out. You need to pull and turn on the scuttle screws to get them out :)
Good work so far!
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Cheers mate i shall give this a go after work tomorrow, i shall post if i have any luck aha
Looking forward to getting the engine out on sunday :laugh:
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Those bloody plastic scuttle screws are crap. Brute force is needed here, new ones only cost pennies from the dealers if you break any.
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Yeah you arnt wrong aha got one out today just to find out how to do it, i didnt break the clip but the screwdrover stripped it aha bloody things!
I have now got exhaust manifold of after 2 hours aha, just the drive shafts then the engine can be dropped or lifted or however it will come out withou an engine lift aha i shall be updating sunday evening hopefully if all goes well,
Thank you for your help guys its gunna take a while but im getting there :drool:
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Ok big update, no pictures but the engine is out finally, the passengers drive shaft was a massive pain in the arse, but its there, now i have a few questions, i have been reading up about the mk4 1.8t gear box? its a AGU 1999 is that the 02J? if so will it fit the mk3 engine mount? will the clutch work with a gti 8v and will the drive shafts fit? i really need to know this because if not im guessing im going to have to find a golf 16v gearbox as the 8v box wont be up to it? is that correct?
So on tuesday (payday) i shall be ordering some paint to paint the engine bay and engine parts ready for the lump to go in as im in no rush to get this done i thought i may aswell get it looking nice aha
Also going to be playing around with the wiring over the next couple of weeks as my budget doesnt stretch to plug and play i am going to be attempting the wiring myself with the help of a few forum members so i will be updating/asking more questions very soon
I hope someone can answer my questions :smiley:
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You will need to get a bracket fabricated and welded, either onto the backside of the 02J to marry up to the existing mk3 mount or, welded onto the mk3 chasis arm like it is on the mk4's to marry up to the 02J.
I personally would sell the 02J and source an 02A from a mk3 16v, you will need the flywheel and clutch from the 16v too.
You are going to need the cable shifter from a mk3 16v or from the AGU car, and you will need either the hydro set up from a mk3 16v, or the Seat Hydro to cable mechanism (I have the part numbers for these if needed)
What year is your car, if its an early model you would be best getting the Seat stuff as there wont be provisions on your pedalbox for the 16v hydro set up and changing the pedalbox is an absolute pita!!
Hope this lot helps
Good luck :wink:
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Ok so my choices would be use a 02j in my garden with a custom mount and find the gear linkage and shift from another mk4 or get gearbox of a 16v golf with gear linkage gear shifter and clutch? is that correct?
the golf all this is going into is a 1996 so would i need seat items or 16v? how much do you reckon the gearbox, clutch pedal and all other items be roughly?
i know its not ideal but as the 1.8t i have atm is only the 150bhp version and im not planing on upgrading it for a few months after the project is complete can i not just use this gearbox? as i have seen some people use them in the past?
Cheers for all the help so far :smiley:
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That way you will be cutting corners only to have to do those upgrades in the end anyway, so why not just do them now?
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If its a '96 then it will have the provisions for hydro clutch already on the pedalbox.
Whether yr going to run the 02A or 02J you are going to need the hydro clutch set-up =
Brake fluid reservoir if yours hasn't got a small, capped stem coming from the lower right of it
Pipe to slave cylinder
Slave cylinder (Goes through the bulkhead and attatches to the clutch pedal)
Pipe from Slave to Master cylinder
Master cylinder that attatches to the gearbox
Or, the Seat Cable to hydro clutch set-up
This replaces the Master cylinder on the gearbox with a bracket which works the clutch from a standard clutch cable.
Both set ups will need this -
Cable change shifter mechanism
If you want to keep the 02J you need to know a good fabricator to sort you a mounting point out in the mk3 shell and thats job done.
If you go 02A, you will need the gearbox (Obviously :rolleyes: :wink:) flywheel and new clutch
Its all about preference really, if you do happen to know a fabricator then 02J will defo be the cheapest route..... but not by much
I personally would go 02A, and use the original mounting points designed for the mk3 :cool:
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With the 02J, You can fit the rear mount from the 02A so you dont need to get mount fabbed up.
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Yeah your right cutting corners is not really what i want to do and as this is an on going project i may aswell do the best if i can even if it does take longer :cry: aha
Ok so i can run the 02j with the 02a mount? surely if that is true that would be the cheaper option would it not? does anyone else know about 02A mount on an 02J box?
If so will the drive shafts from my 8v fit the 02J box? and whats the difference between the two boxes?
Now this is really hard because everyone says 02A but now it seems that 02J would be the same right? :undecided:
As for the clutch setup i will have to find a scrap yard or maybe someone selling the set up? at least i have the right pedal box for the setup aha
On other news the paint is ordered for the engine and engine bay so i can get the engine back together then have a tidy up in the bay pictures to come soon :smiley:
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I'm pretty sure once you remove the mount off the 02j, you can bolt up the bracket from an 02a with the 3 bolts. It should have the same ratios as a mk3 16v box.
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Ok well i dont have any 02a mounts to try but i can roughly line up the gearbox at some point and see if its anywhere near :smiley:
Another quick question, whats the difference between the 8v and 16v engine mounts? :smiley:
Cheers
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With the 02J, You can fit the rear mount from the 02A so you dont need to get mount fabbed up.
Aha Russ, yes. The 02A rear bracket bolts straight to the 02J, I was thinking the 6 speed box off the AUQ/AMK/Bam engines Do'h my bad ha ha :embarassed:
Think the 02J has 100mm flanges for the driveshafts does it not??
Not too sure what size driveshaft flanges your car will have tbh, the GTi's and VR's have 100mm
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ok well this is looking promising now, so instead of buying a 02A box i think i might use the 02j buy a new clutch for it and all the engine mounts along with the clutch setup and i should be nearly there aha i shall measure the drive shafts tomorrow to find out if its the same im really hoping it is might be able to save myself £150 and not be short cutting aha
Thanks for all the help guys i shall update when i find out what drive shaft size's are :smiley:
cheers
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With the 02J, You can fit the rear mount from the 02A so you dont need to get mount fabbed up.
Aha Russ, yes. The 02A rear bracket bolts straight to the 02J, I was thinking the 6 speed box off the AUQ/AMK/Bam engines Do'h my bad ha ha :embarassed:
Think the 02J has 100mm flanges for the driveshafts does it not??
Not too sure what size driveshaft flanges your car will have tbh, the GTi's and VR's have 100mm
You're thinking of the 02M. :wink:
The 02j should have 100mm bolt in flanges, but they sometimes have 108mm iirc.
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ok well this is looking promising now, so instead of buying a 02A box i think i might use the 02j buy a new clutch for it and all the engine mounts along with the clutch setup and i should be nearly there aha i shall measure the drive shafts tomorrow to find out if its the same im really hoping it is might be able to save myself £150 and not be short cutting aha
Thanks for all the help guys i shall update when i find out what drive shaft size's are :smiley:
cheers
Are you going to get an 02a G60 or ABF flywheel and clutch to suit?
If you're going to do such a conversion, you should'nt be cutting corners on it. You'll end up with an unreliable and possibly unsafe car.
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ok well this is looking promising now, so instead of buying a 02A box i think i might use the 02j buy a new clutch for it and all the engine mounts along with the clutch setup and i should be nearly there aha i shall measure the drive shafts tomorrow to find out if its the same im really hoping it is might be able to save myself £150 and not be short cutting aha
Thanks for all the help guys i shall update when i find out what drive shaft size's are :smiley:
cheers
Are you going to get an 02a G60 or ABF flywheel and clutch to suit?
If you're going to do such a conversion, you should'nt be cutting corners on it. You'll end up with an unreliable and possibly unsafe car.
Well if i run the 02j it is exactly the same as the 02A is it not? so surely that isnt cutting corners is it? :undecided: just using something i already have rather than buying another one that is exactly the same? no?
Well if i can put a different flywheel and clutch on the 02J then it would be the 16v flywheel and clutch would that be the best idea?
from what i am reading there is hardly any difference between the two boxes so why does it matter so much that i go out and buy an 02A? :laugh:
Ok guys i got a few prices for engine and gearbox mounts today and was wondering what year of the abf engine and 02A geabox i would need as they can give me a more accurate price if i can tell them the year?
Cheers for all the help so far guys :smiley:
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Try 94-97. Gearbox codes CDA/DPA. Think you ned to start doing some research into this.
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well im not going to lie i am jumping in at the deep end but the only way you learn is to do things, and you guys are being very helpful, if you dont ask you dont get a reply :laugh:
Cheers ill give them a ring tomorrow :smiley:
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Stick with the 02J mate, they are stronger, smoother boxes than the 02A anyway but you will need a mk3 16v rear gearbox mount bracket and a mk3 TDi front engine mount bracket for it to sit straight in the mk3 shell. Keep the standard flywheel and just buy a new clutch (Sachs or Luk)
Unless you are planning on getting top performance or big BHP out of the car, then save your money and just stick with the existing flywheel.
Stick with the 02J and you will need these parts from a mk3 16v -
Brake fluid reservoir if yours hasn't got a small, capped stem coming from the lower right of it
Pipe to slave cylinder
Slave cylinder (Goes through the bulkhead and attatches to the clutch pedal)
Pipe from Slave to Master cylinder
And these parts from a mk4 GTi T
Master cylinder for gearbox
If you use a mk3 16v cable change mech then thats a direct fit, if you use a mk4 one then a little bit of jiggery pokery is needed to make it fit the mk3
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Brilliant, thank you mate sounds like a really good plan, i shall slowly try and source the parts required and hopefully next time i talk about gearboxes it will be because i have fitted it :grin:
Even got a parts required list as well aha, well i am going to the scrapyard friday so i shall see what i can get hold of :smiley:
Just one question though, why front engine mount from a tdi? whats the diffrence for a 16v gti? and im guessing the rear engine mount will be needed from a 16v gti?
cheers :smiley:
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Dont get confused with engine mounts and engine mount brackets.
You want mk3 16v engine mounts all round (3 in total)
But you also need the mk3 16v gearbox engine mount bracket, this bolts to the gearbox and then to the rear passengerside engine mount.
AND a mk3 TDi fornt engine mount bracket, this bolts through the gearbox and starter motor onto the block, then onto the front engine mount. The 02J starter motor is bigger then the 02A hence you need the diesel mounting bracket
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ahhhhh i see i see that makes sense aha well hopefully there is 16v at the scrappy on friday so i can pick most of the bits up :smiley:
would you advise buying all new mounts or is secound hand ok? :smiley:
cheers for all the replies :smiley:
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Buy new mate, ya looking at about £140 for all 3 from ECP. As said before, replace the clutch whilst the engine is out, I would do the oil pick up pipe, waterpump and cambelt too.
Also you will need the rear driver side engine mount bracket from a mk3 16v, this bolts straight to the back of the 1.8T :cool:
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Ok well thank you for the advice and help mate :) I shall start to pace some orders soon, might get some quotes to find out the difference in price, so for all the mounts and brackets and parts from the 16v around 1996? is that ok? :smiley:
Cheers
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What will you be doing about brakes? Those little 1.4 brakes won't do much! :grin: will you be changing the subframes over?
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I believe hes doin the conversion to the GTI may be wrong? So should be 288mm brakes. More than upto the 150bhp standard engine unless your going to mod it now?
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well the car the engine is going in is an 8v GTI... so he has GTI brakes not 1.4 ones
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Yeah as others have just said its going in standard at 150bhp so the 8v brakes should be up to the job for the time being :smiley:
Well i had today of so i made a start on removing the wiring, didnt get to much done as it was so cold out but here are a few photos :smiley:
Engine lift i have the use of whenever i need it :smiley:
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0144.jpg)
The engine out
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0145.jpg)
I cant seem to upload the photos of how the bay looks now but when it lets me i shall update again :smiley:
Does anyone know who or where i can get a AGU ecu de immobilized as iv heard it involves removing a chip and people only do it with a remap?
Also had some bad news the 02J has 108mm cups so looks like 02A is going to be required unless i can find some 108mm drive shafts :undecided:
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Regarding the gearbox, you can pick 16v boxes for good money, I paid £80 delivered. I am not sure if your current flywheel will fit? But again you can pick a G60 or ABF cheap.
Have you got a clutch yet?
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I believe hes doin the conversion to the GTI may be wrong? So should be 288mm brakes. More than upto the 150bhp standard engine unless your going to mod it now?
well the car the engine is going in is an 8v GTI... so he has GTI brakes not 1.4 ones
Ahh my bad, i did a SeanL and didn't read it properly! I assumed it was going in your 1.4 and the 8v was a doner car.. :rolleyes: :grin:
That will be fine then :afro:
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I believe hes doin the conversion to the GTI may be wrong? So should be 288mm brakes. More than upto the 150bhp standard engine unless your going to mod it now?
well the car the engine is going in is an 8v GTI... so he has GTI brakes not 1.4 ones
Ahh my bad, i did a SeanL and didn't read it properly! I assumed it was going in your 1.4 and the 8v was a doner car.. :rolleyes: :grin:
That will be fine then :afro:
Ay! MOFO! You keep saying that when you dont read posts properly! from here on in, anyone who doesnt read posts properly shall be referred to as they've "done a Jamie Wherry"! :tongue: :kiss:
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Yeah im going to try and find a gearbox next month when i have more money aha
I have also got hold of a 16v GTI fround engine mount bracket and the gearbox bracket for £10 so i was pretty happy with that, i will buy new mounts as they seem like the parts that could do with being new :smiley:
As far as progress i havnt got anything done due to the stupid amount of snow we have had but i must admit driving a slammed golf mk3 is amazing in the snow! :grin:
As for flywheel i will wait to see if the gearbox i buy comes with one or i will have to get hold of a secound hand flywheel at some point, i keep forgetting that this is a long project so i should really slow up aha :grin:
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This is going well. keep it up fella.
I need an engine crane in my life. :sad:
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You dont need a gearbox. You only need the 100mm drive cups from an 02a
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Cheers mate im having loads of fun doing it and actually learning alot aha
Yeah that engine crane helped so very much! :smiley:
You dont need a gearbox. You only need the 100mm drive cups from an 02a
dont you mean 100mm drive cups for 02J?
And iv heard there not cheap and not very common? :undecided:
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Cheers mate im having loads of fun doing it and actually learning alot aha
Yeah that engine crane helped so very much! :smiley:
You dont need a gearbox. You only need the 100mm drive cups from an 02a
dont you mean 100mm drive cups for 02J?
And iv heard there not cheap and not very common? :undecided:
Late 02a will bolt in too.
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Hmmmm how do you remove the cups? do you sepeate the gearbox? And by later boxex what sort of year and how will i know if they will fit? :grin: :smiley:
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Late 4 cylinder cars (95-97) have bolt in drive cups like the 02j. They have a 6mm allen key in the centre under all the grease.
Taken from CGTI 02A stripdown (http://www.clubgti.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216832&highlight=02a+bolt) This looks like an early box though.
Next, the drives have to come out, two M8 bolts threaded in against some nuts or spacers and out they pop,
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s92/chippievw/Compositebox/02Astrippt1003.jpg)
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Ahhh brilliat, thank you for that, so i need to find a late 02A with bolt in cups and it should fit my 02J gearbox? is that correct? :smiley:
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Yes. I know the DPA from a mk3 16v has them. I have one on my car and one on the floor in my garage reeady for a rebuild.
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Ok cheers for that ill have to try and find a late gearbox now aha, did some work on the car today stripped some more of the loom in the car and also sprayed the rocker cover and manifold on the engine today ready for a clear top coat tomorrow hopefully i will post photos when they are done :smiley:
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Ok been a while since i have updated this infact been a while since i have done anything, but here are some photos of the engine parts sprayed and finished, i shall be bolting them back on tomorrow :smiley:
Manifold
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0149.jpg)
Rocker Cover
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0148.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0151.jpg)
Pretty happy with how they turned out :smiley: Im hoping to get these back on tomorrow because i really want to know how they look on :cool:
Cheers
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Nice man, white looks nice. Makes me want to take mine all off and spray them again lol.
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Yeah i really like the colour and i think the black brackets and chrome piping should go well together just going to be a pain to clean :grin:
Yeah do it man clean bays are always good :wink:
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Yeah i really like the colour and i think the black brackets and chrome piping should go well together just going to be a pain to clean :grin:
Yeah do it man clean bays are always good :wink:
Thats on the agenda, just a while down the line. It'll take a lot of work, and car would come off the road for a while.
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Well sounds like a plan and if you get all the paint in then it wont take to long :smiley:
Update time,
Well after finishing the manifold and rocker cover i decided to spray and brackets black so i did this and just placed them together to see how it would look, so here goes :smiley:
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0162.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0161.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0158.jpg)
Pretty happy with how it came out and i think polished chrome, black and white should mean a nice finished engine bay, just cant decide to spray the main bay white or black? :smiley:
right well i have got the wiring to this point
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0153.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0154.jpg)
But im stuck as to how to get this round thing of, not sure on its real name? so any suggestions on what its called and how to get it of would be good????
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0155.jpg)
Until i have got that of i cant get any more of the wiring out, and i cant seem to get the dash out either :angry:
Anyway enjoy :smiley:
Cheers
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Very :cool: wish I had the time to do this!!
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four 13 mills behind it near the pedals and fusebox. good work so far btw. white will look clean
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Brake master cylinder. Ballache to get off apparently, cant say I've ever taken one off though. Not sure about white or black for the bay colour though. May be a bit too much with the detailing of engine. :undecided:
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four 13 mills behind it near the pedals and fusebox. good work so far btw. white will look clean
Ahh brilliant cheers mate, i really need to get it of to get the rest of the wiring out :smiley:
cheers i really hope it will look as good as it does out of the bay :cool:
Brake master cylinder. Ballache to get off apparently, cant say I've ever taken one off though. Not sure about white or black for the bay colour though. May be a bit too much with the detailing of engine. :undecided:
Ahhh well it needs to come of so i will give it a go :tongue:
Yeah i know its going to be a pain in the arse to clean but i think it will be well worth while for the end result :smiley:
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little update, got the engine parts pack on just now so heres a few photos for you :)
this is what it looked like before
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0040.jpg)
And as everything went back on :)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0164.jpg)
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(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0170.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0173.jpg)
Thats how it looks now, pretty pleased with how its come out :) I know its going to be a massive pain in the arse to clean though <_< aha
Cheers
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engine looks tidy
that round thing is the vacuum servo, the master cylinder bolts onto it
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Looking slick mate :cool:
Regards the brake servo -
Stick your head in the footwell and directly behind the brake pedal there are 4, 13mm nuts, remove these nuts. The servo piston is held in the back of the brake pedal by a ball joint clip, pain in the arse to remove but once done, the servo will then pull out of the bay.
regards the dash -
There are 2 (possibly 3 :undecided: :huh:) 10mm nuts through the bulk head, under the scuttle/rain tray, there are 3 (possibly 4 :undecided: :huh:) bolts, along the underside of the dash, under the steering wheel, there are 2/3 bolts behind the glovebox/passenger airbag and there are 2 (possibly 4 :undecided: :huh:) bolts behind the centre console cubby hole
Hope this helps :cool:
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Looking slick mate :cool:
Regards the brake servo -
Stick your head in the footwell and directly behind the brake pedal there are 4, 13mm nuts, remove these nuts. The servo piston is held in the back of the brake pedal by a ball joint clip, pain in the arse to remove but once done, the servo will then pull out of the bay.
regards the dash -
There are 2 (possibly 3 :undecided: :huh:) 10mm nuts through the bulk head, under the scuttle/rain tray, there are 3 (possibly 4 :undecided: :huh:) bolts, along the underside of the dash, under the steering wheel, there are 2/3 bolts behind the glovebox/passenger airbag and there are 2 (possibly 4 :undecided: :huh:) bolts behind the centre console cubby hole
Hope this helps :cool:
Thank you mate :smiley:
Ahhh i see i will have a go at this on my next day of, could do with getting rid of it to remove the rest of the loom aha :laugh:
Yeah i found a step by step guide online but i still cant seem to do it? aha i will have another crack at it wednesday as i could really do with it of :smiley:
engine looks tidy
that round thing is the vacuum servo, the master cylinder bolts onto it
Cheers man :cool:
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the engine looks clean and slick with the white :cool:
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the engine looks clean and slick with the white :cool:
Cheers man, will look better when i get some new pipes and pipe clips along with the boost pipes and so on :smiley:
I cant decide what colour to paint the engine bay.......... its either gloss white or gloss black? what do people think? :smiley:
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i think black would be good because firstly white will get dirty quick aha :wink: and white and black match nicely
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i think black would be good because firstly white will get dirty quick aha :wink: and white and black match nicely
Yeah i might spray it black if i was to do it white i would spray all brackets and other parts black.
Do you think it will require vht paint or i can get away with decent paint?
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go for some crazy colours, i saw one that had each side of the engine bay a different colour, blue, green, pink and yellow iirc... with a bright engine too
you have a nice engine so may aswell make it stand out, its not on show all the time anyway
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Have a look at Lazy Lunatics rides thread. Its a shed load of pages, but he's had a few different colours in there! Dont need VHT for the bay though, just key the current paint, Basecoat, then lacquer. :smiley:
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go for some crazy colours, i saw one that had each side of the engine bay a different colour, blue, green, pink and yellow iirc... with a bright engine too
you have a nice engine so may aswell make it stand out, its not on show all the time anyway
Yeah i really thought about this, like blue one side, red at the back and black on the other side, just the sh!ts but then i also like the black and white theme and buying in bulk on ebay of one colour is a lot cheaper?
Have a look at Lazy Lunatics rides thread. Its a shed load of pages, but he's had a few different colours in there! Dont need VHT for the bay though, just key the current paint, Basecoat, then lacquer. :smiley:
Yeah i have read through and been speaking to him a lot recently, i cant make up my mind but i have a week to decide before i order paint and clean the bay up so people can chuck some ideas at me if they want? and photos of it done before would be good?
Thats great its like half price per tin if its not vht aha :wink:
Let me know if you have any good schemes? :grin:
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lime green :lipsrsealed:
pink
baby blue
white
red
yellow
english flag
german flag
theres some ideas buddy
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Aha cheers man, just need to think of what colours will look/go well with the white because once its done it will be years before it changes? :grin:
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bright yellow mate, will make the engine pop out at you, and itll be different. but its your car, its upto you. i thing what ever colour your going to have your coolant pipes
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bright yellow mate, will make the engine pop out at you, and itll be different. but its your car, its upto you. i thing what ever colour your going to have your coolant pipes
Yeah bright yellow would be cool, i was also thinking purple might go well with white?
Well coolant pipes if i go for a mixed colour bay i will slowly buy multi coloured pipes but they arnt cheap as most of you know, so that would be a long way down the road :tongue:
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multi colured. could look :cool: if not too many colours my mate mk3 has a yellow engine bay, or part of it ill dig a picture out
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(http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h367/lemski18/380861_10150533658995289_740130288_10974948_272057057_n1.jpg)
but he didnt do the firewall, dont ask me y but he didnt want to take the engine out i dont think.
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Cheers for the photo mate, not sure on yellow, i dunno its so hard to decide aha :tongue:
I keep thinking about purple with white but im not sure aha im on google having a good look around :grin:
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that a good idea. i dont know ne 1 else with a mk3 whos painted there bay
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Uhhh, hello!!! Cream bay on my dragon green mk3!!!
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Engine parts are looking :cool: in whit, if you want to paint the bay a different colour I'd say keep it dark.
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Heres my old one as I think the rides thread was deleted.
Before; :sick:
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/seanlethaby/af2142f1.jpg)
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/seanlethaby/2aa1e7cf.jpg)
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/seanlethaby/DSCF0736.jpg)
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/seanlethaby/DSCF0619.jpg)
After; :cool:
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/seanlethaby/5e18bb46.jpg)
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/seanlethaby/IMG_0264.jpg)
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/seanlethaby/595195f8.jpg)
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/seanlethaby/e50bb664.jpg)
(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/seanlethaby/f633b21e.jpg)
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Wow that does look really really good :cool:
Makes me want to do mine now! :grin:
Ahhhhhhh i cant decide white, purle or black? :sad: :grin:
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Rides threads don't get deleted as far as I know. They do get pushed back quickly though if not updated.
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Rides threads don't get deleted as far as I know. They do get pushed back quickly though if not updated.
Right again Shaun. Here it is, languishing on page 4.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=181664.0
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How long did that take seanl? Could that be done ina weekend?
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If you dedicate all w.end then should be easily achievable. I did everything when changing the lump though. (Cambelt, clutch, crank sensor, gaskets, water pump etc etc), and had it off the road for a while. The painting of the bay did take me a while as well though tbh, but that was because I left all the loom, Brake servo, subframe etc in place, I had to be careful and mask it all, and go over it a fair few times (dark to light colour obviously). Dont see why you couldnt have it done in a day. :smiley:
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That's starting to sound like a plan :rolleyes:. But maybe for the summer as I'm driving mine daily and would just get covered in sh!te again. Watch this space....
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Hi guys i havnt got any pictures of updates but i have got a question, the brake servo that bolts on inside the bulkhead behind the pedals, now i have removed the bolts after much struggerling, but how do i release the shaft that goes into the pedal? as im now stuck on that bit? abyone know how that comes out? i know someone said it clips out but icant even see where the clip is? :undecided:
Any help will be great and an update will be coming over the weekend :wink:
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Get a light in there you cant miss itbuddy
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Great work on this so far mate, the rocker cover and inlet look the dogs in white!
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Hi guys i havnt got any pictures of updates but i have got a question, the brake servo that bolts on inside the bulkhead behind the pedals, now i have removed the bolts after much struggerling, but how do i release the shaft that goes into the pedal? as im now stuck on that bit? abyone know how that comes out? i know someone said it clips out but icant even see where the clip is? :undecided:
Any help will be great and an update will be coming over the weekend :wink:
I recently done this and there is a white clip that ges intio the back of the pedal with the ball ended shaft of the servo clicking into that. Just yank it hard but will more than likely break and you will need a new one. Around £4 from the dealers part number 1H 272 1169.
Also this is my engine bay before and after....
From this....
(http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a430/CupraTurbo81/PB030130.jpg)
To this....
(http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a430/CupraTurbo81/P1190036.jpg)
(http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a430/CupraTurbo81/P2210015.jpg)
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That some top work there!!!! Very nice :cool:
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That looks really good mate, what colour is the car? I really want to do mine white but I think it might be a bit to much white? But after seeing that I'm not sure now aha
That's for the advice about the brake servo I have now got it out did what you said I broke the clip but it's out! Aha so thank you
I will be updating this soon as I have got some more work done but I'm at work ATM so I can't post any photos :)
Get a light in there you cant miss itbuddy
Thank you mate, I'm really happy with how they came out :)
Cheers
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Its vw alpine white mate, only done the bay, wheel wells and floor and still got the rest of the car to paint in the coming weeks. Took me about 6 weeks just to get it like that but that was including painting the engine and everything else. Its all in my build thread in my sig.
Refitting the new servo clip is a bit fiddly. A good thing to remember that if your looking at the back of the pedal through the hole in the bulkhead for the servo there is a wee pin of metal pointing downwards, thats part of the pedal spring and needs to be positioned over the clip as if its left behind it the clip won't locate correctly and will also be left with some free play in the pedal. I went through two clips before I relised this. You will know what I mean when you get round to doing it.
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Any updates on this?
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Ahhhh yes aha i have been busy over the last few weeks with a new job and going away on holiday and my racing has now started again but i have been doing a bit of buying and collecting of parts and have got some progress ill just to keep it short aha
First some bits and bobs i have got hold of :smiley:
g60 8v flywheel
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9373.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9374.jpg)
MK3 cable change unit
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9380.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9379.jpg)
Sprayed a front engine mount
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9376.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9377.jpg)
Mk3 TDI 1.9 70k Gearbox
Not got very good pictures but you get the idea :wink:
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9381.jpg)
And as for progress i cant really remember where i got up to but this progress has made it more worth while here are a few shots for you all :smiley:
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9364.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9366.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9368.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9369.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9370.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_9371.jpg)
Hope you enjoy guys hopefully more updates will be coming quicker let me know what you think :smiley:
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Hey guys long time since i have been on but thought it might be time for an update :smiley:
So now i had got some parts together i thought it was time to tidy up the bay, first problem i came across was a rusty hole so heres a few pics of the hole and how it looks now :smiley:
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0243.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0241.jpg)
Started to weld the patches in, had to do 4 in the end due to the diffrent bends in the metal
Front
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0249.jpg)
Back
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0248.jpg)
All filled in and primed :smiley:
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0254.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0255.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0256.jpg)
I have now got some filler on there but the rubbish weather has put me back i shall update soon :smiley:
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Looking good,
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Nice work with the plating, it sure was rusty :shocked:
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cheers guys we think that a battery may have gone on it at some point causing it to rust as bad as that because the rest of the car seems solid, i will post again tomorrow evening with more progress hopefully.
One question someone may know the answer to, i order what was meant to be a luk clutch but when it turned up it had valeo all over it? is valeo and luk the same company or have they sent me the wrong clutch didnt want to sound like a idiot emailing them so i thought id ask on here first?
cheers
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One question someone may know the answer to, i order what was meant to be a luk clutch but when it turned up it had valeo all over it? is valeo and luk the same company or have they sent me the wrong clutch
Valeo and Luk are different companies I believe
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Hmmmm well in that case I had better email them as I order luk not Valeo :/ dam!
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Valeo are a decent aftermarket manufacturer anyway tbh. They are both comparable kits, but if your unsure then send it back mate. :wink:
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Wll providing the one i got is the same as the one online then it should do the job had good feedback and got specs i think ill give it a go aha
Little update got some filler down on my repair today just putting on thin layers to build it back up but whilst i was doing it i was mocking up what is involved to do a smooth engine bay well at least the legs and towers if anyone has any advice or pictures of there that would be great? :smiley:
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Ok so i have been busy with filler and sand paper the last two nights after work its not done yet but here are a few shots for you guys :smiley:
Filler layed on in layers rather than one big blob really hard to layer it on smooth though
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0259.jpg)
whilst rubbing the filler down
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0262.jpg)
And not done but primed as im not sure when im going to have chance to work on it again
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0266.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0267.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/ferdinor/MK3%201%208T/IMG_0268.jpg)
As iv said its not done but primer aslo helps to see where any dents dips and so on are, i will update again soon, really am looking into doing smoothed legs and towers after seeing how this looks i may have the other side to do soon :grin:
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Good progress mate, its looking good :)
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Good progress mate, its looking good :)
Thanks mate, I'm away a lot over the next two months so I don't think I will be getting much done but I want tO do some research into smoothed bays and see how much is on show and how much work it envolves :smiley:
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Looking good! Little tip on the filler, try and get it as smooth as you can before it sets, then it will be a LOT easier to sand back