GolfGTIforum.co.uk

Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: oliver07 on 23 September 2010, 21:59

Title: GOLF V5 170
Post by: oliver07 on 23 September 2010, 21:59
GUYS THINKING OF BUYING ONE OF THESE ON A Y 01 142K MILES VW HISTORY TILL 102K
WHATS THE WATCH OUTS ON THESE PLEASE
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: richw911 on 23 September 2010, 22:01
 Dont Shout  :laugh:

The usual Mk4 faults TBH
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: tech1889 on 23 September 2010, 22:36
LOADS OF PROBLEMS BUT IF WE STOP SHOUTING WE CAN THEN EXPLAIN THEM...  :evil:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Wayne on 24 September 2010, 00:03
Chains, engine problems and drink fuel.

Buy a turbo much better bet.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: dubcruiser on 24 September 2010, 16:01
Chains, engine problems and drink fuel.

Buy a turbo much better bet.

+1

V5 is the biggest pointless model in the Mk4 range. 1.8T is a much better bet  :wink:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: jamie16v on 24 September 2010, 21:42
was on my way to work the other day and one was in front of me at the lights, he was driving all normal until i pulled up behind him then he dicided to give it the beans off the lights. didnt really impress me tbh.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: tg1 on 25 September 2010, 00:17
its probably alright for towing or something  :grin:

to be fair i reckon it would be faster than a 150 1.8t quite a bit, the 180's though probably not. assuming all were standard.

yeah a mapped 1.8t would be faster, but then if you're not tuning it it doesnt matter

looked at a toledo v5 once  :embarassed: and it sounded pretty cool for a weird engine.

but expect the its not a 1.8t crew to turn up soonish  :grin:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: richw911 on 25 September 2010, 07:06
its probably alright for towing or something  :grin:

to be fair i reckon it would be faster than a 150 1.8t quite a bit, the 180's though probably not. assuming all were standard.

yeah a mapped 1.8t would be faster, but then if you're not tuning it it doesnt matter

looked at a toledo v5 once  :embarassed: and it sounded pretty cool for a weird engine.

but expect the its not a 1.8t crew to turn up soonish  :grin:

Its not a 1.8T  :laugh:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Ant1981 on 25 September 2010, 07:08
I quite like the V5. As said, if you're not tuning, then it's quicker than a turbo, plus no turbo lag issues, plus sounds cool when you give it the beans.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: dolphinfriendly1012 on 25 September 2010, 07:21
I own a v5 170 which replaced my bora 180bhp 1.8t. I have found the v5 to be as quick and alot smoother and now enjoy getting away from the lights when i put my foot down and not waiting half the week for the turbo to catch up. Plus just added an induction kit that makes the 5 cylinder warble sound amazing.
Don't get me wrong I loved my 1.8t but for everyday drive ability and performance the v5 has proved to be much better apart from the fuel, I get about 5mpg less on runs compared to 1.8t.
On the tuning side a supercharger kit is just about to be launched with up to 3 stages all the way up to about 220-270 ish which is more than an aum or auq can manage without having to have a bigger turbo.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: oliver07 on 25 September 2010, 07:31
guys i used to have 2 gti turbo golfs nothing special compared to my 330 bhp GT4 but some factual information on the v5 might have been good!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: chrisr103 on 25 September 2010, 07:48
http://www.golfv5.co.uk/

May find some helpfull info in there?
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Wayne on 25 September 2010, 08:08
guys i used to have 2 gti turbo golfs nothing special compared to my 330 bhp GT4 but some factual information on the v5 might have been good!!!!!!!!!!!!

The facts are it is a poor engine, drinks fuel and the 1.8t is the better choice.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Ant1981 on 25 September 2010, 09:57
guys i used to have 2 gti turbo golfs nothing special compared to my 330 bhp GT4 but some factual information on the v5 might have been good!!!!!!!!!!!!

The facts are it is a poor engine, drinks fuel and the 1.8t is the better choice.

Poor engine? What makes you think it has a poor engine. What data have you got for us to back that sweeping statement up?
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Wayne on 25 September 2010, 10:08
guys i used to have 2 gti turbo golfs nothing special compared to my 330 bhp GT4 but some factual information on the v5 might have been good!!!!!!!!!!!!

The facts are it is a poor engine, drinks fuel and the 1.8t is the better choice.

Poor engine? What makes you think it has a poor engine. What data have you got for us to back that sweeping statement up?

Early ones suffered piston problems, they use oil plus if it was that good why did VW give up a few years and stop using it.

The 170bhp is ok but would not be my choice.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Ant1981 on 25 September 2010, 10:26
guys i used to have 2 gti turbo golfs nothing special compared to my 330 bhp GT4 but some factual information on the v5 might have been good!!!!!!!!!!!!

The facts are it is a poor engine, drinks fuel and the 1.8t is the better choice.

Poor engine? What makes you think it has a poor engine. What data have you got for us to back that sweeping statement up?

Early ones suffered piston problems, they use oil plus if it was that good why did VW give up a few years and stop using it.

The 170bhp is ok but would not be my choice.

All engines use oil. So the early ones had a few issues, the later ones don't.

So really, you can't back up what you said.

You say if they were that good, why did VW stop using that engine? Silly thing to say, there's many engines that they don't use anymore, doesn't mean they were no good. It's called progress, to move onto a different engine.

There's engines that wouldn't be my choice, but doesn't mean they're not good.

Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Wayne on 25 September 2010, 11:07
guys i used to have 2 gti turbo golfs nothing special compared to my 330 bhp GT4 but some factual information on the v5 might have been good!!!!!!!!!!!!

The facts are it is a poor engine, drinks fuel and the 1.8t is the better choice.

Poor engine? What makes you think it has a poor engine. What data have you got for us to back that sweeping statement up?

Early ones suffered piston problems, they use oil plus if it was that good why did VW give up a few years and stop using it.

The 170bhp is ok but would not be my choice.

All engines use oil. So the early ones had a few issues, the later ones don't.

So really, you can't back up what you said.

You say if they were that good, why did VW stop using that engine? Silly thing to say, there's many engines that they don't use anymore, doesn't mean they were no good. It's called progress, to move onto a different engine.

There's engines that wouldn't be my choice, but doesn't mean they're not good.



The 150bhp was ok but had issues, they then switched to the 170 version which was better however with both you still looking at a engine that will need to have its timing chain checking or replacing @ around 100k which means engine out.

I say poor engine, maybe I worded it wrong, the main issue is if you have a v5 it is a struggle to get any more power out of it if you wanted to.

The turbo will give a lot more gains whilst a V5 just does not, a remap will only gain a couple of bhp.

Spend 10mins on review sites and see the problems people have had with the v5's, hence why I said the V5 is a ok choice but I still think the turbo is the better choice.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: the_stink on 25 September 2010, 12:38
some factual information on the v5 might have been good!!!!!!!!!!!!

By know you must know what everyone is like, all shot down in a big ball of flames for the 1.8t I would just say if your going to get a big engined golf get a R32  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: bobbarley on 25 September 2010, 12:44
Mate, get a 1.8T, it's just better, and that IS a fact.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: richw911 on 25 September 2010, 18:08
Not another keyboard warrior thread  :lipsrsealed:  :laugh:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: JC on 25 September 2010, 18:14
Not another keyboard warrior thread  :lipsrsealed:  :laugh:

how the fcuk r u still a mod you sh1t stirring mo fo  :grin:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: richw911 on 25 September 2010, 18:16
Not another keyboard warrior thread  :lipsrsealed:  :laugh:

how the fcuk r u still a mod you sh1t stirring mo fo  :grin:

I don't know what you mean  :grin:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: bobbarley on 25 September 2010, 18:18
Nothing can touch Rich, from hiiiiiigh up his ivory tower!
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: richw911 on 25 September 2010, 18:29
Nothing can touch Rich, from hiiiiiigh up his ivory tower!

lol Im no one special and i dont think i am.

 Im just here for the banter   :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Agreeable Slick on 25 September 2010, 18:38
First post is the most factual. The rest, are opinion and speculation.

I owned a Toledo V5 (150) and sure it had problems, but nothing that the other mk4 engines (including the turbos) don't suffer from. I.E. coil packs etc.

I never had a problem with oil consumption, chains, pistons, or anything else. Like most engines, take care of them, and they will be fine. Power, well it was progressive, and torquey, but it's only 150BHP pulling along 1800KG of car, it's not going to be flighty, and they will be more suited to cruising than performance.

FYI: The reason the V5 and later the V6 engines were dumped is because:
A) Cost to manufacture
B) Weight
C) Space constraints
D) Emission laws tightening up

Neither were dumped because they were crap engines. If you are going to say something, make sure it's at least semi true.

HTH.

Give me a shout if you want more info. Or Billy, as he had/has a 170 golf.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Wayne on 25 September 2010, 20:02
I based my opinion on the 3 people I know that have had V5's, 2 suffered failed pistons and the chain can get noisy at 100k and it is major work to replace it.

A dealer told my friend that the V5 was dropped due to poor sales which I guess means more people went for the turbo.

Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: tech1889 on 25 September 2010, 20:06
sod it get what ever you want lol if you want a v5 over a r32 or a turbo etc then get one doesn't matter how much people love it or hate it you will always do what you want in the end.. the favourite engine on this site is the 1.8t where if you went on a v5 owners site they would say they 1.8t is sh!te and the v5 is the way forward.. it doesn't matter if it was dropped for sales or any other reason.. the 1.8t is still being produced to this day in variants so it does show its a good engine and parts are cheap and widely available..
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: oliver07 on 25 September 2010, 21:09
well the v5 is on the drive
but thanks
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Jayman79 on 25 September 2010, 22:19
GUYS THINKING OF BUYING ONE OF THESE ON A Y 01 142K MILES VW HISTORY TILL 102K
WHATS THE WATCH OUTS ON THESE PLEASE

My mate bought one of these, 15 to the gallon if you lucky, get a diesel mate, 150 gt tdi faster at 150bhp than the v5 and even faster if you chip it :-)  Livin testament :-)
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Wayne on 25 September 2010, 23:12
well the v5 is on the drive
but thanks

I hope it was cheap with 142k on it.
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: oliver07 on 26 September 2010, 08:35
yes £500.
 :grin:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: mikemk4gti on 26 September 2010, 20:52
Bargain!   :grin:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: jonnygti66 on 26 September 2010, 22:51
£500 i think i`d have it too!!! :undecided: good luck with your bargain dude :cool:
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Cov golf on 27 September 2010, 12:53
What a bargain for that money who cares If it brakes
Title: Re: GOLF V5 170
Post by: Ant1981 on 27 September 2010, 16:58
What a bargain for that money who cares If it brakes

I'd care if it brakes. A quick car, infact any car needs brakes!