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General => General discussion => Topic started by: navmk4gti on 13 April 2021, 21:42
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I am looking for a 7 seater next..as needs must :lipsrsealed:
I have been looking at a vw touran. But they only come in 1.4??
I know nothing about these new 1.4 tsi engines. Looks like they do pack enough pulling power at 150bhp.
But reliablity wise how good are they..i am looking at 2017 reg around that mark..
Any issues i should look out for etc
Also yes it must be a petrol..i do short journeys and barely 7k a year
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Its essentially a Golf, so all of the usual Golf foibles.
1) Water pump will give out at some point, probably at about 4 years. Its a £700 job, make sure any you consider have had it done recently.
2) The 1.4 TSI engine if you have DSG will be using the dry cluth DSG box. These can and do fail. Not impossible to repair using a specialist rebuild company, but a pain in that you have to extract it and send it to them unless you are handy with the spanners. Maybe a manual might be a better choice.
I've not read of anyone saying the 1.4 engine is underpowered, but most reviews recommend a TDI over petrol, but I understand why that might not be a good solution for you.
Just don't expect the thing to be a GTI and you will be fine :laugh:
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Tourans are to most as dull as ditchwater, but if that doesn't bother you then finding one with a healthy discount shouldn't be hard. At least one could be tweaked to better suit using various Golf upgrades.
When researching cheaper 7-seaters for a friend about 18 months ago, I found the lower versions of the BMW 2-Series could be also be had at good prices and it has a bit of style about it. Being basically a re-bodied Bini means that parts/upgrade options are also plentiful in much the same way as Touran-Golf.
My friend ended-up buying a Pug 5008, (automatic) which has proven reliable and he's been happy with it so far.
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Its essentially a Golf, so all of the usual Golf foibles.
1) Water pump will give out at some point, probably at about 4 years. Its a £700 job, make sure any you consider have had it done recently.
2) The 1.4 TSI engine if you have DSG will be using the dry cluth DSG box. These can and do fail. Not impossible to repair using a specialist rebuild company, but a pain in that you have to extract it and send it to them unless you are handy with the spanners. Maybe a manual might be a better choice.
I've not read of anyone saying the 1.4 engine is underpowered, but most reviews recommend a TDI over petrol, but I understand why that might not be a good solution for you.
Just don't expect the thing to be a GTI and you will be fine :laugh:
yes ofcourse wont expect it to be near a gti or even drive like one.. we just need a 7 seater next..it wont be ragged around or used as "fun" car lol just literally A to B with 4 screaming kids :grin:
looks like i need ensure the dsg has had a sort of service sometimes in its life then.. ones i am looking at are 2017 reg around 40-45k on the clock.
Tourans are to most as dull as ditchwater, but if that doesn't bother you then finding one with a healthy discount shouldn't be hard. At least one could be tweaked to better suit using various Golf upgrades.
When researching cheaper 7-seaters for a friend about 18 months ago, I found the lower versions of the BMW 2-Series could be also be had at good prices and it has a bit of style about it. Being basically a re-bodied Bini means that parts/upgrade options are also plentiful in much the same way as Touran-Golf.
My friend ended-up buying a Pug 5008, (automatic) which has proven reliable and he's been happy with it so far.
yh no 7 seater is really fun to drive tbh..they just are needs must.
funny enough i have been looking at the bmw 2 series tourers aswell..i like the m sport ones..but the problem is it is not a proper sort of 7 seater not even a good 5. the far back 2 seats seats are for children..no way a teen or adult can get in them..and there are only 2 isofix points in the rear bench.. really do need 3 as we have 3 car seats..the mrs hates using the seat belts and wants a rear bench with 3 isofix points..lazy i know! :grin:
i currently have a seat ateca FR which has been very good, but it is a squeeze for us now.
main reason i was looking at a touran is because i want to be back in a VW..do miss them..i will do cosmetic mods to it etc :tongue: :smiley:
cant see myself in a Peugeot or a citroen..the drive is just horrible on them..test drove a few..they just feel so cheap and rattly.
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Were there SEAT or Skoda equivalents of the Touran?
Wonder if one of those might give you better bang for your buck? Maybe a newer one for the same money.
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Were there SEAT or Skoda equivalents of the Touran?
Wonder if one of those might give you better bang for your buck? Maybe a newer one for the same money.
there is a skoda kodiaq i think it is called..which looks awesome..esp the sportline.. its a 7 seater 4x4..but they are big money and out of our budget unfortunately..looking around 26k for one..my budget is around 12-14k mark
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SEAT Alhambra?
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SEAT Alhambra?
is that basically not a vw touran/sharan underneath..it has the same 1.4 tsi engine..
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OP, if you’re looking for a 7 seater, I can recommend the Alhambra- and if you have 4 kids ( as I have)- I’d say you need a proper 7 seater- not a 5+2.
We’ve had ours 4 years- done 40k in it.
It’s a great car.
For some reason, Seat have stopped making it- though I think the identical VW sharon still in production.
The Alhambra- in top spec- comes loaded- leathers, electric everything, pan roof, DSG-
Used to be called “lux”, I think the later models changed name
Buy one.
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OP, if you’re looking for a 7 seater, I can recommend the Alhambra- and if you have 4 kids ( as I have)- I’d say you need a proper 7 seater- not a 5+2.
We’ve had ours 4 years- done 40k in it.
It’s a great car.
For some reason, Seat have stopped making it- though I think the identical VW sharon still in production.
The Alhambra- in top spec- comes loaded- leathers, electric everything, pan roof, DSG-
Used to be called “lux”, I think the later models changed name
Buy one.
ah so is the touran a more smaller version of the sharan and Alhambra then. Interesting i did not know that!
bit like the ford smax is a smaller version 7 seater then the ford galaxy which is a proper 7 seater.
ill have a look on autotrader for a sharan and Alhambra see what i find in my budget..full leathers etc would be nice
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The Touran is built on a Golf chasis, the Sharan (Sharon lol) and the Alhambra are built on the Passat chasis.
The original Mk1 Sharan/Alhambra/Ford S-Max were actually all the same car too!
For the Mk2, Ford dropped out and VW used the Passat B6 to build them.
The Sharan and the Alhambra are as you can imagine quite a bit bigger than a Touran.
I had a quick look and you could pick up a 2016 Alhambra with a 1.4 TSI for your sort of money...
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yes, exactly.
We chose Alhambra over the Sharon simply because you get more bang for buck. I think there are minor differences in interior quality to satisfy the VW snobs :whistle:
You could probably get a top spec 5 year old car in your budget.
I think you'd have to go for diesel - you really don't want a weedy petrol engine to pull a big car.
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Oh yeah, its' Sharan!. 2 colleagues at work have them- sometimes hear them asking " how's the shazza" :grin:
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very interesting .. did not know ford dipped in and was using the same chassis too!..ill drop the pursuit of a touran then i defo need a proper 7 seater..ill take a look at the alhambra and sharan..
it defo has to be a petrol.i don't want a diesel and do short journeys etc then be stuck with a hefty maintenance bill because of it..diesels are made for long journeys so they have enough time to properly warm up..i would just be in a ticking time bomb if i got a diesel with the driving i do
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During covid I went from 20k+ in my Mk7.5 Golf GTD to more like 3k for a year. Only short journeys to essential shops.
It really didn't like the short journeys.... I didn't manage to get a DPF clog but it was constantly trying to regen and definitely would have spat its dummy over time like that.
I like an oil burner, it definitely makes sense but DPF is a nightmare unless you are doing the mileage at speeds.
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Fair point about the engine. Ours does a lot of short trips- school runs etc- but does the distance work too.
We had a "DPF warning" message around a month ago- for the first time. Just required driving at higher revs for a while then it cleared.
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Due to these lockdowns looks like i will be working from home fulltime now.. our company has no intention of opening the offices any time soon..not till atleast next summer..so i would rarely get to take the car on a regular long jounrney to merit for a diesel.