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Title: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 02 March 2021, 12:14
Hi All,
Since buying my current GTi 7/8months ago I've been contemplating changing the 18" Austin wheels that are on the car. Although a 2019 car it is like new, it had only done just over 2,000 miles when I got it (now around 4,400 due to lockdown). I just think the car would look nicer with other wheels. Should I go from 18" to 19"? Your thoughts would be welcome. Although I think 19" would look better, I think because of the state of our roads, 18" is the way to go?
Having had a look around (on the web), at the moment I am thinking of possibly either the CM Wheels Pret copies or the Bola FLC wheels. I would be grateful for any suggestions/input.
Thank you in advance.
Cheers, Chas.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Watts on 02 March 2021, 12:35
18s will be cheaper, lighter, more comfortable, more durable, cheaper tyres. But 19s do look good!
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Ceefeesh on 02 March 2021, 12:54
The preference for wheel size is personal. My car came with 19” Santiagos which I changed after 2000 miles. My wife refused to drive it and said they were too harsh on the roads and gave her a sore back. I bought genuine Milton’s brand new and fitted them. I find them preferable, they are comfortable and the car handles well and they preserve the OEM look. About 6 months ago I bought a set of CM rep Reifnitz 18” rims in gunmetal as I liked the look of them and the 18s suit me and significantly less expensive tyres than 19s. I have new tyres for them but not fitted them yet; so many excuses.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Ulysses31 on 02 March 2021, 13:35
The trouble with these sorts of questions is that you'll get 50 replies and 50 different answers. I will completely contradict my learned forumites and say that for me personally it absolutely must be 19s, otherwise what's the point in buying something sporty? Went with Santiagos as they were the only factory option and got 30,000 miles out of the fronts so wear doesn't bother me. Just replaced them with Pilot Sport 4S for £140 each as blackcircles.com had a flash sale on and so price doesn't bother me either. The car is riding on standard suspension and I find them supremely comfortable. Just goes to show that one man's meat is another man's poison.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Exonian on 02 March 2021, 13:53
Agreed with Ulysses.

I had five mk7’s  :rolleyes: and three of them came in 18’s which I promptly swapped for 19’s as they look far better. Ride quality wasn’t ruined. A fourth car was only with me 7 weeks so had no wheel upgrade and the fifth came from the factory on 19’s.

If stopping with 18’s then go for something with a lower offset than standard or you’ll gain nothing.

But go with 19’s anyway!  :cool:

The Bolas will look good, I’ve not seen many Golfs shod with those so it’ll be nice to be a bit different.
Bear in mind they’re 8.5” wide though so be careful with offset.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 02 March 2021, 15:42
Thanks for your replies guys, a mixed bag, as I expected.
You fellas that have had 19" rims, have you had any problems with the pot holes & s**t road conditions?
Also would you think the Bola FLC wheels are better quality that the CM Pret copies, whether 18 or 19"?
Cheers,
Chas.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Exonian on 02 March 2021, 16:03
I haven’t been on the R forum for a long old time but there were quite a few reasonably satisfied customers when I was last there. I suspect the CMWheels reps come from more than one supplier/factory.

The Bolas will be much lighter.

If you damage a replica Pretoria it’s fairly cheap to get another set rather than bugger about getting repairs or refurbs and then you’ll have several more spares! That’s the reason I went with reps this time round (against my better judgement) owing to some of the roads I drive being utterly dreadful for deep potholes that suddenly appear and it takes ages for the local parish to get them repaired.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 02 March 2021, 16:17
I haven’t been on the R forum for a long old time but there were quite a few reasonably satisfied customers when I was last there. I suspect the CMWheels reps come from more than one supplier/factory.

The Bolas will be much lighter.

If you damage a replica Pretoria it’s fairly cheap to get another set rather than bugger about getting repairs or refurbs and then you’ll have several more spares! That’s the reason I went with reps this time round (against my better judgement) owing to some of the roads I drive being utterly dreadful for deep potholes that suddenly appear and it takes ages for the local parish to get them repaired.

Apologies if this is a stupid question but:
Is it better that the Bolas are lighter?
Does that mean that they won’t be as strong and more susceptible to pot hole damage?
Cheers,
Chas
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: baka on 02 March 2021, 16:19
It depends on what the people who'll drive/ride in the car can tolerate, and how &£$* the roads are. I went down to 17's.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Exonian on 02 March 2021, 19:15

Apologies if this is a stupid question but:
Is it better that the Bolas are lighter?
Does that mean that they won’t be as strong and more susceptible to pot hole damage?
Cheers,
Chas

Definitely not a stupid question.

Lighter wheels will handle and ride a little better, google “unsprung weight” if you’re not overly familiar with the term, it can make a big difference.

Many things will affect strength, from wheel construction (the Bolas are marketed as something along the lines of “flow cast” or something which is potentially a good thing), quality of the actual metal alloy, and the design. Thin, widely spread spokes are lighter but leave large areas of the wheel prone to going out of shape when suffering impacts.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 March 2021, 22:43
19s are for looks but lightweight 18s are what you need. 👍
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Yusee on 03 March 2021, 07:23
19s are for looks but lightweight 18s are what you need. 👍
I agree.
Are you intending to drive the car, or is it an ornament for your driveway?
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 04 March 2021, 12:36
19s are for looks but lightweight 18s are what you need. 👍
I agree.
Are you intending to drive the car, or is it an ornament for your driveway?

When we're allowed to I will be driving it!
Although my head is saying 18", I'm edging towards a set of 19" CM Pret copies, with 235/35/19 Michelin PS 4s
fitted. I'm waiting for a response from my insurance company to see if that will make any difference to my premium, & if so how much  :huh:
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Yusee on 04 March 2021, 16:18
Ha, yeah, looking forward to driving whenever and wherever I bloody well like.

It’s the best riding car of its type, so I doubt you’ll find 19s too harsh- but no doubt it is a compromise.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 08 March 2021, 11:25
Hi all,
I have just ordered a set of 19 x 8.5 Gloss gunmetal Pret copies from CM Wheels for my 2019 GTi and 235x35x19 Michelin PS 4s from Blackcircle Tyres, before their 15% discount finishes at midnight tonight. 
Looking forward to getting my wheels!
Cheers, Chas. 
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: jaceyboy on 08 March 2021, 12:26
Hi all,
I have just ordered a set of 19 x 8.5 Gloss gunmetal Pret copies from CM Wheels for my 2019 GTi and 235x35x19 Michelin PS 4s from Blackcircle Tyres, before their 15% discount finishes at midnight tonight.
Looking forward to getting my wheels!
Cheers, Chas.

Nice!, exactly what we have, although I changed the colour from Gunmetal to Gloss Black after a couple of years.....

Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 08 March 2021, 12:32
Hi all,
I have just ordered a set of 19 x 8.5 Gloss gunmetal Pret copies from CM Wheels for my 2019 GTi and 235x35x19 Michelin PS 4s from Blackcircle Tyres, before their 15% discount finishes at midnight tonight.
Looking forward to getting my wheels!
Cheers, Chas.

Nice!, exactly what we have, although I changed the colour from Gunmetal to Gloss Black after a couple of years.....


I presume that you have been happy with yours & no problems?
They look like they fill the wheel arches nicely. Is your suspension standard or have you lowered it or fitted wheel spacers?
Cheers, Chas.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: jaceyboy on 08 March 2021, 12:53
Yep they have been fine, standard suspension and no spacers, although I think spacers on rear would be good, the only thing I would say is the wheels are set out more than real prets so even using PS4's with good rim protection you dont get as much...
(https://i.ibb.co/syP7G04/IMG-0168.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nz0pvHy)
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 08 March 2021, 12:57
Yep they have been fine, standard suspension and no spacers, although I think spacers on rear would be good, the only thing I would say is the wheels are set out more than real prets so even using PS4's with good rim protection you dont get as much...
(https://i.ibb.co/syP7G04/IMG-0168.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nz0pvHy)

Thanks jaceyboy, I will post some pics of mine when fitted. Hopefully by the weekend.
Cheers, Chas.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: rajb on 10 March 2021, 22:20
Nice purchase.

Glad you went 19’s as they’ll look so much nicer and fill out the look much better. I’ve swapped between 18’s and 19’s and yes although it is a slightly better ride on the 18’s it was just that, slightly. I find even on our crap roads the 19’s feel fine.
Also running 235 MP4S’s so will handle very nicely too.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 10 March 2021, 22:25
Nice purchase.

Glad you went 19’s as they’ll look so much nicer and fill out the look much better. I’ve swapped between 18’s and 19’s and yes although it is a slightly better ride on the 18’s it was just that, slightly. I find even on our crap roads the 19’s feel fine.
Also running 235 MP4S’s so will handle very nicely too.
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Thanks rajb. My wheels should be delivered to me tomorrow & the tyres are booked to be fitted on Friday.
😀😀👍
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: rajb on 11 March 2021, 09:38
Thanks rajb. My wheels should be delivered to me tomorrow & the tyres are booked to be fitted on Friday.
😀😀👍

Cool look forward to the pics.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 12 March 2021, 15:58
Hi all,
This morning I had my new wheels & tyres fitted. Changed from 18" 7.5J Miltons to 19" 8.5J Pret copies from CM Wheels in gloss gunmetal. Tyres are 235x35x19 Michelin PS4 S.
For those of you interested the weight of one of those Prets was 11.2kgs, without a tyre.
I'm very pleased with the new look of these. Hopefully my photos are attached!
Can anyone help me with what the tyre pressures should be please? The guy at the tyre place said 33psi :huh:

(https://i.postimg.cc/43Q4kmm6/IMG-1846.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mchW7Z3k)

(https://i.postimg.cc/yNH6bFY6/IMG-1847.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SngpXYMH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTVW2RFg/IMG-1848.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVZ3srwc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/C5zwq7J7/IMG-1849.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSfXXQ7S)

Cheers, Chas.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Guzzle on 12 March 2021, 16:27
There should be a sticker inside the drivers door on the A pillar with the tyre pressures on.

My GTD on 18's is 36psi. Not sure what it is for the GTi on 19's.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 12 March 2021, 16:28
There should be a sticker inside the drivers door on the A pillar with the tyre pressures on.

My GTD on 18's is 36psi. Not sure what it is for the GTi on 19's.

235x35x19 isn't on the list.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: fredgroves on 12 March 2021, 16:48
All I can offer is that the same sized tyres on my Mk8 GTI are 38psi (light load) and 41ps (fully loaded).

Similar weight of vehicle and performance, probably a reasonable bet.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 12 March 2021, 16:57
All I can offer is that the same sized tyres on my Mk8 GTI are 38psi (light load) and 41ps (fully loaded).

Similar weight of vehicle and performance, probably a reasonable bet.

Thanks Fred, sounds more like it to me. Will give it a go & see how it feels.
P.S. My original VW wheel centres were slightly too small to stay in, so I've ordered some that stick on the plain black centres that came with the wheels. (A place based in Preston).
Cheers,
Chas.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Watts on 12 March 2021, 17:26
There should be a sticker inside the drivers door on the A pillar with the tyre pressures on.

My GTD on 18's is 36psi. Not sure what it is for the GTi on 19's.

235x35x19 isn't on the list.

My TCR has 235/35/19s and has the label for those which states 36 all round for light loads.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 12 March 2021, 17:32
There should be a sticker inside the drivers door on the A pillar with the tyre pressures on.

My GTD on 18's is 36psi. Not sure what it is for the GTi on 19's.

235x35x19 isn't on the list.

My TCR has 235/35/19s and has the label for those which states 36 all round for light loads.

Perfect, thank you Watts, I will try that.
Chas.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: jaceyboy on 12 March 2021, 17:41
Ive got them too and its 36 all round, you need some VW sticker caps :whistle:
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 12 March 2021, 17:42
Ive got them too and its 36 all round, you need some VW sticker caps :whistle:

Thank you👍👍.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 12 March 2021, 20:10
Ive got them too and its 36 all round, you need some VW sticker caps :whistle:

Thank you👍👍.

I’ve ordered some 55mm VW wheel stickers from a place in Preston, Lancs.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: jaceyboy on 12 March 2021, 20:30
Ive got them too and its 36 all round, you need some VW sticker caps :whistle:

Thank you👍👍.

I’ve ordered some 55mm VW wheel stickers from a place in Preston, Lancs.

Think 56mm fit too, I ordered some for my sons Golf off eBay, they came quite fast and were good
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: rajb on 12 March 2021, 20:38
Looking good Chas.

They do set it off nicely.

As for pressures just go with 36 which I think is what the 225 is anyway. Even though slight difference I still stick to the pressure for that wheel size.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 12 March 2021, 20:45
Looking good Chas.

They do set it off nicely.

As for pressures just go with 36 which I think is what the 225 is anyway. Even though slight difference I still stick to the pressure for that wheel size.

Thanks rajb. I’m very pleased with how they look, just need my VW centre wheel stickers to arrive & finish the look. Cheers, Chas.
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: Exonian on 12 March 2021, 23:07
The car and wheel combo looks great chas  :cool:
You can’t beat a set of Pretorias with MPS4S
Title: Re: Advice re wheel change please
Post by: chas.s on 13 March 2021, 08:05
The car and wheel combo looks great chas  :cool:
You can’t beat a set of Pretorias with MPS4S

Thanks :smug: :smug: