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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: fredgroves on 11 April 2021, 20:45
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Couldn't find a thread for mk8 R reviews... So here we go..
https://youtu.be/nGUGqIn3Gcw
Not really sure what to make of that. I find it hard to believe that someone who is a professional motor journalist doesn't understand that lane assist on at startup is a legal requirement...
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There are a few Golf R reviews scattered around, many in the “in the flesh” thread IIRC.
I watched Rory’s review whilst having my lunch risking Clubsport/R inferiority complex :grin:
Points taken from the vid:
Good to see Rory is back wearing my favourite jacket.
Lapiz can still look either very dull in anything but good light, or fantastic up close when freshly cleaned.
The fact he wasn’t driving a PP version should have been a positive thing not a negative. How can you review a £39k car at face value if the only version you’ve tried has about £5k of extras including the all important :rolleyes: drift mode.
How can you say DCC is a must when you’ve not tried the car with passive.
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Versus S3
https://youtu.be/sfqRshK7z3k
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Pistonheads
https://youtu.be/9n9HQVCDUPo
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Pass the sick bucket
https://youtu.be/Qj9TCTf3_N8
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Teachers used to tell kids off for drawing on their hands
https://youtu.be/xE5sEYbXPXA
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Err... yeah
https://youtu.be/W67sNh0cLzs
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A bit more like it
https://youtu.be/iB6Z-1fuE1g
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You used to be able to buy quite a lot with £3k once upon a time
https://youtu.be/TrkxZozh1O0
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Drift mode yo!
https://youtu.be/2D2IKite6K8
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Some light reading
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/volkswagen/golf-r-1
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/2021-vw-golf-r-performance-pack--ph-review/43997
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf-r/first-drives/volkswagen-golf-r-2021-review
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/r%3famp
I’m bored now. I’m sure there are probably dozens of links over on the R forum
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Nice work, instant review thread :tongue:
I've decided I'm going to look for the best 2021 car. Its a simple test, it's going to be the one with the easiest, most obvious lane assist disable function.
So far my research suggests it's a golf.
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I’m sure it was just one button in the 1 series.
Mind you “the 1” can’t do 0-60 in three seconds or do drifts on the way down to the supermarket.
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Drift mode yo!
https://youtu.be/2D2IKite6K8
String-backed gloves? Those take me back a few years. :laugh:
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Zwei sick bros inist
https://youtu.be/zyLhDkSHOHQ
Lesson learned, take das handbrake off ven buying Gulf R drag car ja.
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So tell me, why did their (eventual) proper S3 vs R drag race show that the R was quicker.... but nothing like as much as we've seen elsewhere?
Could it be that despite launch control and DSG, there are other factors involved that can make all of the difference.
I wonder also if some of the other videos haven't featured people who didn't turn auto hold off before launching...
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I know it’s far from an exact science but rolling road tests I’ve seen of the R and S3 seem to point to the cars producing more power than official manufacturer figures, and as a comparison the M135i and the JCW thing with side opening rear doors that it shares a chassis and engine/gearbox with produce less than the 306 PS BMW group rate it at.
For consistency purposes Racechip (I know, I know) have released videos of some of these cars showing comparative figures on their own rolling road. Unfortunately not all in the same video. Whether their rollers under or over read or not the difference between each unit’s output should be fairly consistent.
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Joe Achilles currently has an R video in the works.
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135 v A35 v R.
https://youtu.be/XVw6sgWFmEo
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Literally just been sat watching that.
Alan Partridge’s jumper playing a cameo :grin:
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Normal person drives Golf R!
https://youtu.be/ZQOdiSgPnfU
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I think normal might be stretching it a bit.
I don’t watch this guy’s vids but from the little I’ve seen I think he spends far too much time in badly lit rooms clutching Golf R literature. :lipsrsealed:
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I think normal might be stretching it a bit.
I don’t watch this guy’s vids but from the little I’ve seen I think he spends far too much time in badly lit rooms clutching Golf R literature. :lipsrsealed:
I bet the pages are stuck together too :grin:
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Volkswizard vs Carwow drag race featuring Merc A45
https://youtu.be/Lg3TNEW94Fc
Andrew does get a mention, although his face isn't shown. Maybe he's not kool inuff for da Carwow kidz :sad:
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I watched that earlier too.
Not really sure what it shows you? Maybe that it only takes a little tiny mistake and your 20 grand of superiority is pointless maybe :grin:
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Joe Achilles review.
https://youtu.be/u1pnpzlI4Es
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I think normal might be stretching it a bit.
I don’t watch this guy’s vids but from the little I’ve seen I think he spends far too much time in badly lit rooms clutching Golf R literature. :lipsrsealed:
lol! This guy’s videos keep appearing in my YouTube suggested feed. And yes, that’s my impression of him too! Sadly another one of these wannabe YouTubers without the content/talent/ability to match.
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Joe Achilles review.
https://youtu.be/u1pnpzlI4Es
This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen yet. JA is an unashamed BMW fan boy so it’s refreshing to see him try something outside of his comfort zone. I think his critique of the interior gremlins is the best summation I’ve seen of it yet. Harsh but fair criticism from someone who’s lived with it for a week or so and has a lot of experience with better thought out interiors.
He did love the car overall though.
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I think what he said about the R is probably equally true about the gti and the clubby.... They drive really well but the infotainment and steering wheel buttons are definitely not great. I'd probably say the driving experience overcomes those issues but why does it have to overcome them? Imagine what it could have been, that's the super annoying thing more than anything specific.
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M135i vs Mk8 R:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeGbt4p8K8k
Fairly well balanced review I thought.
I keep saying it, the performance Mk8's are very very well driving cars but definitely let down by software gremlins and poor user interface.
But the driving experience itself is really so very good that maybe you can get over the other problems? But can you dream of what an alternate world looks like.... where the problems are gone and you have simply a "normal" interface with all of the combined with those driving dynamics..... and its not like VW can't have been aware of this.
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Volkswizard vs Carwow drag race featuring Merc A45
https://youtu.be/Lg3TNEW94Fc
Andrew does get a mention, although his face isn't shown. Maybe he's not kool inuff for da Carwow kidz :sad:
I suggest that Matt needs to go back to school to learn how to count. He says in the video that the Merc costs £57k and the Golf £39k and, later on, that this amounts to a difference of £8k. Hmmm! :huh:
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I don't believe there has ever been a more stark example of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
The Mk 7.5 GTI PP 245 DSG 5dr I drive is a 9/10 car in almost ever single descernable area.
VW then went and - genuinely and unequivocally - improved the chassis/handing balance of the new car - superb. But at the same time, in just about every single other area they have dropped the new car down from a 9/10 car to a 3 or 4 out of 10 car at best.
A travesty really.
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3 or 4 out of 10?
I know lots of people don't get on with the new infotainment, and there are some fairly unforgivable faults with it. But I'd hardly say that counts as 'every single other area.'
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I'd score the mk8 eight out of ten. It's ten before knocking two points off for annoyances.
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My brother’s Gti has finally arrived. He tells me that everything about the infotainment appears to be over thought. Not great at all but the drive of the car more than makes up for it. This surprised me as he’s a real tech person and not a car person at all.
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Likewise king monkey...
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And that is the reassuring thing. Imagine if the tech was absolutely faultless but the drive dreadful? Hmmmm.
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It would probably be a Nissan quashkai...
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I think what he said about the R is probably equally true about the gti and the clubby.... They drive really well but the infotainment and steering wheel buttons are definitely not great. I'd probably say the driving experience overcomes those issues but why does it have to overcome them? Imagine what it could have been, that's the super annoying thing more than anything specific.
JA i believe did say he was getting a clubby next in his R review. Will be interesting comparison.
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I think what he said about the R is probably equally true about the gti and the clubby.... They drive really well but the infotainment and steering wheel buttons are definitely not great. I'd probably say the driving experience overcomes those issues but why does it have to overcome them? Imagine what it could have been, that's the super annoying thing more than anything specific.
JA i believe did say he was getting a clubby next in his R review. Will be interesting comparison.
Yep. He’s got it already. Photo on Instagram.
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https://youtu.be/3Zk8zO3wsXU
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Joe Achilles review.
https://youtu.be/u1pnpzlI4Es
I just watched that review whilst eating lunch (leftover cold sausage and feta cheese salad if anyone is interested :rolleyes: :grin: ) and have to say it’s definitely one of the best I’ve seen.
Shame it wasn’t the full fat PP model as featured in the link Fred put up versus the M135i which I also just watched.
I agree with just about everything Joe says about the mk8 looks and switchgear aside from the AID and the steering wheel. Two of the mk8’s standout features for me are the shape/size/sculpting of the steering wheel and the AID clarity.
Obviously I have zero experience of driving an 8R but I think he covers it well there from a performance point of view.
Driving it normally wasn’t covered too much but then again they tend to gloss over that in most road tests.
Moving on to the vid Fred linked to, the Car Gurus twin test.
Well the R was in a silly expensive (but no doubt popular) spec and the BMW looked a fairly standard one, I’ll have to take the result at face value as the presenter is a bit of an R fanboy.
Yes, the EA888 feels more eager flat out but the M135i is a great daily with a better programmed gearbox and more torque for less than 8 tenths normal driving.
https://youtu.be/3Zk8zO3wsXU
Despite the “presenter’s” enthusiasm I fell asleep watching this one.
Not that it was a bad vid, I just think I’d OD’d on Golf YouTube vids for one lunchtime...
My thoughts, well the guy looks a bit like a younger version of my younger brother (I think it must be the eyebrows as my bro doesn’t do enthusiasm!), I quite liked his jacket and, well we all know the R is the best car on the Internet already don’t we.
Ok Wide, where’s your review?
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Is the R the only MK8 Golf with 4 pipes? If so, I saw the back of a white one today. The only badging on the back was the awful but in trend stretched G O L F.
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Probably an R-Line then as it has mock 4 pipes and G O L F lettering where as a full-fat R has just half an R under the roundel handle
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Probably an R-Line then as it has mock 4 pipes and G O L F lettering where as a full-fat R has just half an R under the roundel handle
Well that's an upscale in fakery. Didn't realise tge R-line was faking the tail pipes now too. Does it also have an R looking interior too, to complete the proper Sheep in Wolf's clothing effect?
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Yep, exact same seats except the print is a different colour (grey vs blue and grey).
There’s an R-Line that lives just around the corner from my house and it’s a definite double take thing every time I see it.
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I’ve done 500 miles in my R so far. When I done a few more I will write a summary of my thoughts if people are interested.
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Driving a CS and R back to back on Wednesday, I will let you know the outcome
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I’ve done 500 miles in my R so far. When I done a few more I will write a summary of my thoughts if people are interested.
We are indeed very interested. Your thoughts will be incredibly relevant as you have a broad range of comparison benchmarks as well as your personal appreciation and otherwise of different aspects of the car.
Driving a CS and R back to back on Wednesday, I will let you know the outcome
Really looking forward to reading that. Probably not as much as you’re looking forward to the actual driving though!! Lucky man! :afro:
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Really looking forward to reading that. Probably not as much as you’re looking forward to the actual driving though!! Lucky man! :afro:
Yep should be good, it will be a small write up im not one for books :laugh:
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Pro’s and cons of each will be just fine.
And just how much you prefer the R! :grin:
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Pro’s and cons of each will be just fine.
And just how much you prefer the R! :grin:
I might not! :evil:
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Is the R the only MK8 Golf with 4 pipes? If so, I saw the back of a white one today. The only badging on the back was the awful but in trend stretched G O L F.
The R Line is very different to the R at the rear. Here's a an extract from the VW brochure.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qvqhfn7M/2021-04-26-1.png) (https://postimg.cc/0zg2DzmL)
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.... and the R.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5tMV5dDd/2021-04-27.png) (https://postimg.cc/tsDwyfX2)
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Yep, one is blacker than a goth’s lipstick and one is the colour of radioactive wee, pretty different!
To casual observers they look very similar in the same was as S-Lines look like S’s and AMG Lines look like AMG’s and so on.
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Managed to test drive an R yesterday, dealer demo first UK cars so 18's, DCC and pano roof in Lapiz.
Decided that the wait was getting too long for the ED45 and still not sure on the red striped wheels or graphics down the side so thought why not, never had an R before after 5x GTi's in a row (ED30, Mk6, ED35, Mk7, ED40)
Compared to the mk8 Clubsport I drove before Xmas which was also an early dealer demo vanilla spec, the R felt that bit more special in every way to me.
I currently have a much loved ED40 with some options, but don't want to let it depreciate a lot further now the Mk8 is here and I like the mk8 in general, but found the Clubsport and GTi in general a bit cost cut in certain areas, and a step down from the ED40. I'm not sure the ED45 would be any better, and its more than likely to cost more than the R and mainly due to the exhaust which I don't feel is needed.
So, the R drives great, much more involved and I was really suprised between Race mode and Comfort settings, I thought the interior might put me off with all the blue but quite nice really, so much so I am about to pull the trigger on one with Performance Pack, DCC and Winter pack.
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Praise indeed from you!
I don’t think the Ed40 will lose masses more ££££ any time soon, it has quite a following.
The R was always going to be the standout model of mk8 as it’s the performance brand to carry VW forward and the FWD chassis has been developed about as far as it can go to handle the power without dumbing it down too much.
The only downside is the R will be absolutely everywhere in a year or two so depreciation could go either way depending on supply vs demand.
Your spec is probably the best one to go for but personally unless I got an unbelievably good deal I’d probably wait and see if they do an R Anni in the next year or so...
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Yes your right about it being the HALO one and having Jost Capito develop it was always a good sign, as his CV is very good.
I did think on the R anni and that would be a cracker I am sure, I am also sure we will see plenty of R's on the road, and its a good car so can be expected. I think I'd come back for a ED50 though if they did it right..... :wink:
I've pushed my log standing dealer to match DTD price which they have and they have allocation, so I am thinking its a good sign.
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Sounds good so far - actually having allocation is a good sign!
What colour have you gone for?
It’s really interesting to see you’ve gone for an R over a 45 which speaks volumes as you’re an actual enthusiast who can properly drive as opposed to someone promoting themselves on video or published text. :cool:
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I concur with the look and general idea of the R over the CS, while the Ed45, appears nothing more than a slight make over on what we know up to now?
I'm not sure I follow that a concern over depreciation on a well specced Ed40 can be answered by purchasing a new mk8 R? :)
I honestly believe my well specced Ed40 will lose less money than a new mk8 R over the next 2-3 years?
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Sounds good so far - actually having allocation is a good sign!
What colour have you gone for?
It’s really interesting to see you’ve gone for an R over a 45 which speaks volumes as you’re an actual enthusiast who can properly drive as opposed to someone promoting themselves on video or published text. :cool:
The colour is a debate, which I need to make my mind up on pronto, either Lapiz a signature R colour or White which can blend in a little more, not sure yet?
Thanks for the praise, I was racing at Brands this weekend so the R will be the off circuit car but still vary capable.
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I concur with the look and general idea of the R over the CS, while the Ed45, appears nothing more than a slight make over on what we know up to now?
I'm not sure I follow that a concern over depreciation on a well specced Ed40 can be answered by purchasing a new mk8 R? :)
I honestly believe my well specced Ed40 will lose less money than a new mk8 R over the next 2-3 years?
Its man maths :grin: but its an outright purchase so want to keep good equity in it, rather than let it depreciate to nothing, but you are right they are slow deprecation on the Edition models so its been good for that. Not sure I will get the same on the R, but lets see, spec is always critical as I will sell on again private.
One thing that bugged me with the Clubsport and ED45 no gloss black on the bumper plastics and no GTI logos inside, the ED40 was a real standout model.
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I agreee spec is crucial on these cars for resale, man maths aside there is always the new car experience, an 8 R will, literally be as quick as almost any car you encounter on a public road due to competence & size.
You mentioned Brands, I am 15 mins frpm there and know it well, I wondered what time a Tomcat race car laps the indy in & obvioulsy what rubber you run?
Look forward to hearing real time reviews of your new R!
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I agreee spec is crucial on these cars for resale, man maths aside there is always the new car experience, an 8 R will, literally be as quick as almost any car you encounter on a public road due to competence & size.
You mentioned Brands, I am 15 mins frpm there and know it well, I wondered what time a Tomcat race car laps the indy in & obvioulsy what rubber you run?
Look forward to hearing real time reviews of your new R!
Yes no problem will keep you posted on the R.
I wish I was closer to Brands but Donington is my local circuit, it was my first time ever at Brands this Sunday and going into Paddock Hill bend in qualy for the first time was interesting :shocked: great circuit and very technical too.
I managed to get into the mid 58's race 2 and a good time in the Tomcat is low 57's. Class leaders are 1.8 Metros running low 56's. We have to run list 1B control tyres so Toyo R888's etc and the cars run factory road car ECU's (from the 1990s)
Lots of drama as first race of the season, I managed to get a run on the camera car here going into Druids before we got red flagged on race 1. https://youtu.be/jgOpJjTWGYw (https://youtu.be/jgOpJjTWGYw) my Tomcat is number 54 white and blue.
Looking forward to coming again and learning more!
What car you run around Brands?
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Nice video!
I know what a Rover Tomcat is, it took a lap for me to see the reg plate and realise you weren't in the yellow roadster!
The Tomcat certainly pulls well!
You're right on the indy being a technical track.
As you mentioned it's your first visit, people often think a lap time is made up of a blat down the straight, but as you know you can only enter Paddock Hill, so fast within the capabilities of your car.
The best way to a fast lap that is often overlooked, is drive through Surtees flat, brake to stabilise the car through Mclaren and get the power on as soon as you can for Clearways through Clark curve. Many drivers seem to hang on the brakes through there!
I am sure you are watching a few videos, see what you make of that part of the circuit, now i have mentioned it?
If you ever get the chance to drive the Brands GP, just do it, my favourite UK circuit, even though they changed Dingle Dell so you can't get air now ?! :)
I was expecting 56-7 secs from a Tomcat on sticky tyres, so that's all good...it's going to be hard to eke out seconds from there.
I have mostly run various 911 lightweight & RS-CS round there and borrowed a few Turbo & GT3 from mates... so slightly different times, especially after intense instruction from Pork Cup drivers on test days.... not by much though ! :)
Good luck for the season!
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I drove the Club Sport and R back to back today, both are cracking cars, the Club Sport didn't feel too much slower if not the same power if I'm honest, but one thing I didn't like the way was the CS dropped down in manual mode (kick down) which I hate, the R didn't do this for some reason?, also the R sounded much better (the CS did sound nice though), some good pops etc, it also felt much more planted but less engaged as the CS, the paddles are very nice in the R, rubbish in the CS but I'm sure these could be changed after market.
I didn't like the slow infotainment system, took forever to turn on, not easy to navigate at all and very fiddly, and the interior feels very cheap in plastic materials etc, are they worth £40k?, well my answer is no, I got back in our mapped GTi MK7 and it still felt great and much more premium in quality than the MK8.
Some pics of the R, I didn't manage to take any of the CS but it was a Moonstone car with standard wheels :sick:
(https://i.ibb.co/Kh3Q6VX/20210428-115924935-i-OS.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RbVM2Q9)
(https://i.ibb.co/Cmgvj4S/20210428-115931207-i-OS.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BcbjhvY)
(https://i.ibb.co/ykH8wsj/20210428-120218137-i-OS.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GMzVKPS)
(https://i.ibb.co/xDDHMx8/20210428-120227311-i-OS.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Xbb8zck)
(https://i.ibb.co/Xk25t43/20210428-121102515-i-OS.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S7smBxd)
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Sounds like the age old gti v R dilemma then. New generation but same pluses ans minuses.
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Sounds like the age old gti v R dilemma then. New generation but same pluses and minuses.
100%, depends what you want I guess, the R is going to be the quicker car in the wet (which we get lots of) and dry but I think the CS will be more rewarding day to day, both cars are brilliant at what they do, I still think the CS looks better to, the blue seats in the R and :sick: especially the rear headrests
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I went for an R in the 7.5 because I’d never had one before and I had an S3 at the time. I’d also had a number of gtis. Whichever one you opt for it’ll be awesome. I agree that the CS looks better though. That’s where I’d put my money.
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Nice one jaceyboy :cool: good to see you tested one in a decent colour too :laugh:
Do I take it the R has lots of proper exhaust noise?
I actually quite like the standard R interior, but I’m weird and like the Clubsport side stickers too, and you should hear my musical tastes :lipsrsealed:
But yeah, neither would be as much fun to drive as a modded mk7 which doesn’t have door cards that feel like they share the same plastic as a Crafter van’s. But to be fair, after the first week you take zero notice of the interior plastics and reserve your wrath for the infotainment system’s erratic blips.
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Oh and while I’m thinking about it, Mr Volkswizard has a set of R paddles on order for his CS so expect a vid in a week or two.
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Nice one jaceyboy :cool: good to see you tested one in a decent colour too :laugh:
Do I take it the R has lots of proper exhaust noise?
I actually quite like the standard R interior, but I’m weird and like the Clubsport side stickers too, and you should hear my musical tastes :lipsrsealed:
But yeah, neither would be as much fun to drive as a modded mk7 which doesn’t have door cards that feel like they share the same plastic as a Crafter van’s. But to be fair, after the first week you take zero notice of the interior plastics and reserve your wrath for the infotainment system’s erratic blips.
The R has much more of a deep burble, and pops much deeper ones than the CS, I would imagine with an aftermarket exhaust or even a res delete it would sound very good, amazing really for a 2.0 4 pot engine.
The CS exhaust note is nice too though, I would say almost on par with our res delete GTi, im sure once you own the car the interior is lost and you drive it :grin:
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From the humble mechanic
https://youtu.be/mSSvLDzJzgA
What's with all the potential colours these guys can get 'spectrum' they called it. When can we get this :laugh:
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From the humble mechanic
https://youtu.be/mSSvLDzJzgA
What's with all the potential colours these guys can get 'spectrum' they called it. When can we get this :laugh:
Spectrum paint colours aren’t cheap - cost was US $2,500 on 2019 model year cars so it might cost more than that now. Each to their own, but there’s no way I’d be paying that for a paint colour on a Golf.
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That’s been going for a few years. Like Audi Exclusive. You can get it in Germany too. Or could in the last gen.
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So can we get these colours in the UK then? If you pay ofcourse
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So can we get these colours in the UK then? If you pay ofcourse
I think it might have been possible as a special bespoke order some years ago, but I don’t think you can now. If you could, I’m sure it would’ve been discussed on the forum, and maybe one or two forum members would’ve done it.
Back in 2011 there was a custard yellow mk6 GTI on VW’s website for sale. Link to the discussion thread below;
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=191592.0
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It's just the colours are so drab. Kings red instead of tornado is about as bright as it gets. It's one thing that's putting me off the mk8. Not everyone's taste i am sure but I like the blue the m135 is in, hence the question. There is the photo somewhere of the mustard colour the normal golf comes in on a gti I think it is. Again not my taste perhaps buts it's a bit brighter
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I agree actually.
I moaned about the poor choice of colours for UK mk7's... And it's only got worse.
Mind you, at least now Germany is in line, on the mk7 they had dozens more colours plus pick your own. Now it's identical.
I also don't like KR much either. It's gone from tornado, a classic gti colour, to metallic red like a Peugeot... And then charge you top whack for it....as opposed to tornado red being dirt cheap on the mk7.
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I agree actually.
I moaned about the poor choice of colours for UK mk7's... And it's only got worse.
Mind you, at least now Germany is in line, on the mk7 they had dozens more colours plus pick your own. Now it's identical.
I also don't like KR much either. It's gone from tornado, a classic gti colour, to metallic red like a Peugeot... And then charge you top whack for it....as opposed to tornado red being dirt cheap on the mk7.
There are still some colors not available in Uk
(https://i.postimg.cc/XvTc5Jxj/416-D57-DC-DAD9-4-C9-B-B3-F4-40-CA80-AC265-D.png) (https://postimg.cc/Jy5kVR9v)
Lemonyellow metallic
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We don't talk about lime yellow metallic :sick:
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We don't talk about lime yellow metallic :sick:
Haha :laugh: I like it actually No criminal will care to steal your GTI in that colour
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I agree actually.
I moaned about the poor choice of colours for UK mk7's... And it's only got worse.
Mind you, at least now Germany is in line, on the mk7 they had dozens more colours plus pick your own. Now it's identical.
I also don't like KR much either. It's gone from tornado, a classic gti colour, to metallic red like a Peugeot... And then charge you top whack for it....as opposed to tornado red being dirt cheap on the mk7.
I just keep imagining the Renault kadjar when KR is talked about. I have seen a couple of youtube videos and in certain light KR looks good in my book.
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I saw my first R in the real world earlier. Looked very nice i thought even though it was black.
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Harry Garage Mk8 R review, a narrowly mixed response?
Old man confronts modern technology and loses! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-n84SE448k
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Harry Garage Mk8 R review, a narrowly mixed response?
Old man confronts modern technology and loses! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-n84SE448k
That's a good review. He makes many intelligent and valid points. And his judgement clearly isn't questionable, unlike some "reviewers".
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It did sound like a more technophobic James may lol.
He obviously wasn't a golf user as much of the things he failed to understand were mk7 technology and terminology. He didn't delve into any of the mk8 clever bits really.
One thing he did say is that the car is just meh and totally tame until you hammer it. Now I think that about my gti. It's just pootling along doing nothing special, behaving like a one litre golf match (except the fuel economy) but if you press the button... Its a different animal.
Is that a bad thing? Should anything with any getup and go remind you constantly that it's noisy, hard and a raging beast even with the handbrake on? I don't think it's a bad thing to have a usable car that's also fast.
Is the R too fast for road use? Probably. I think my gti even has too much effortless performance vs what you can do on the road.
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I’m surprised he didn’t like it more. He seemed more enthusiastic about the mk7 R - and gti.
I don’t think he’s a technophobe. His complaint about the user interface is the same old complaint that just about every other reviewer has.
Surprisingly critical of the steering too, I’ve not heard/ read that in other reviews.
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I’m surprised he didn’t like it more. He seemed more enthusiastic about the mk7 R - and gti.
I don’t think he’s a technophobe. His complaint about the user interface is the same old complaint that just about every other reviewer has.
Surprisingly critical of the steering too, I’ve not heard/ read that in other reviews.
I think he was just overwhelmed by the interface and maybe didn't try the steering in any different modes?
I haven't driven the mk8 R, but surely they have carried over the different steering weight mode from the mk 7?
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Don't know if we've seen the Sharp Dressed Man doing a Mk7.5 R vs the Mk8 R in the US of A?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSvLDzJzgA
They have a little wait for their Mk8's yet and of course the USA ones will be slightly different, even though for the Mk8 they will also be made in the Fatherland and not Mexico... but they do get a manual box option unlike the ROW.
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Yeah, that one was posted up a few days ago Fred.
The PR woman was annoying in that her whole monologue was like a boardroom presentation, a bit of corporate insistence in that everything was wonderful and anyone in the meeting who even looked like they might disagree would be immediately fired.
Ten out of ten for her not barfing on zee-zee though :sick:
So, the mk8 isn’t a 7 facelift? Wrong! Go check out a silhouette photo of both please Ms PR paying attention to the bonnet, screen and roofline. Same basic shell and chassis.
It is far more heavily reworked than 7 to 7.5 I’ll agree, so we will go with re-engineered rather than “whole new car”
Oh, and she would never go back to real buttons? Hmmm...
I just watched the Harry’s garage vid this morning.
Having read the impressions others here got from the video it was interesting going in with my own preconceptions from those posts.
Wealthy old guy with decades of experience and a garage full of analogue supercars meets new generation Golf R with smartphone interior.
Actually I think he nailed it.
As a trainee old guy myself I don’t tend to actually watch much of his stuff but he’s very intelligent and switched on. He covers everything from classics to ultra expensive exotica from what I have seen but not much of it interests me so I don’t tend to tune in often.
But he has a huge ‘following’ I would imagine, mostly of the pistonheads/Evo types, so his audience would definitely relate to all of that.
With familiarity, just like with a smartphone, you get used to the UI but it doesn’t ever necessarily become fully intuitive as far as certain things go. Even picking up someone with a near identical smartphone’s phone but with all their app widgets in different places to mine I find hugely difficult to navigate quickly.
With so much technology packed into these cars it’s a designer’s nightmare/wet dream to create a non-distracting and easy to navigate UI when the management board have told them there will be minimal physical buttons.
Aside from that I think Harry loved driving the car.
He’s got a garage full of exotica to excite him when he has time to indulge but if he had to have a one or two car garage what’s the betting he’d have a Golf R sat in there?
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Ahhh yes, Americans... I am used to them....I suffer from them too.
The fake ra-ra-ra is very grating, especially when my colleagues and I here have a totally opposite point of view of the world. We tend to be understated to the point of pesimistic and crack jokes while stuff explodes and burns around our heads. :whistle:
It can be an interesting difference of approach to the world... and they really don't get it or like it much... but we don't care much for their fake shiny happy people either.
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https://youtu.be/QoH-hrzWxvU
A bit more about her here.
She lives and breathes the job for sure, and I love some of the colours they get for their Golfs. Very jealous of that.
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We know VW under play their power figures...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDWaiSPh84
This ones not even run in.
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Bit jealous they are getting manual Rs in the US and Canada - she said only region globally to do so. But guess they don’t get the clubsport at all? If they get manual CSs will be really annoyed
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We know VW under play their power figures...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDWaiSPh84
This ones not even run in.
340bhp is pretty impressive but when you see the 60 and 1/4 mile times, you know it's got to be running more than the 320ps.
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Latest RBR review, this guy is pretty comprehensive in his tests, plenty of 991>992 analogies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CT9aUDptZY&t=1138s
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Latest RBR review, this guy is pretty comprehensive in his tests, plenty of 991>992 analogies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CT9aUDptZY&t=1138s
Good find that. Really interesting. Thanks for posting.
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No alarms and no surprises! :)
Drag race Mk7 vs Mk8 R.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6alEQGuroiM
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My New 8R, it is sick compare to my Mk75 :whistle:
https://youtu.be/UNfdQQm5PCY (https://youtu.be/UNfdQQm5PCY)
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My New 8R, it is sick compare to my Mk75 :whistle:
https://youtu.be/UNfdQQm5PCY (https://youtu.be/UNfdQQm5PCY)
Nice! :cool:
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My New 8R, it is sick compare to my Mk75 :whistle:
https://youtu.be/UNfdQQm5PCY (https://youtu.be/UNfdQQm5PCY)
Nice! :cool:
Thanks!, and is so sick to drive. Trackday next week :cry: :grin:
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I'm waiting patiently for my build to progress, stage 2 for over a month now :undecided:
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I'm waiting patiently for my build to progress, stage 2 for over a month now :undecided:
My R sat at stage 2 from the 11 Jan to 12 April 😶
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I expect a wait :cool: hopefully makes stage 3 before xmas :nerd:
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You’ve gotta love Hamza!
https://youtu.be/ixUmeZKHD2o
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I got the distinct impression he liked it!
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Last year’s best car on the Internet versus this year’s:
https://youtu.be/SlGM318E6mo
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Last year’s best car on the Internet versus this year’s:
https://youtu.be/SlGM318E6mo
That's the sort of technology group test I hate.... "the best thingy is the most expensive one in this test"
Its usually hard to get away from that, but equally....
Mind you, also sickening are those "european car of the year award" things.... this year its the Vauxhall Astra.... really? In a year thats the BEST new car? Ferrari decided not to release anything? The Astra is my pick vs the new Aston? Meh thats just a "who paid the biggest bung" award
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Last year’s best car on the Internet versus this year’s:
https://youtu.be/SlGM318E6mo
should be compared to RS3 which is coming with 420 hp and 500 Nm. A performance version even has 450 hp
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Give ‘em chance, that’s next years best car on the Internet! :whistle:
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Decent review
https://youtu.be/DE7HveqcyUo
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Vicky absolutely leathering the R.
https://youtu.be/QNEhmMjVj2A
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If that Golf R ever appears on a forecourt run a mile! :laugh:
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Not so much of a review, but looks smart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS0DL2Fyuew
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Golf R:
https://youtu.be/J4r1JoztiCk
But he prefers the Clubsport:
https://youtu.be/OfZRQuaMQM8