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Title: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: keithy on 24 January 2003, 22:01
Hi All,
I have recent'ly brought a gofl gti, but i have no idea if its a mark 1 or 2   :-[  any help.!!
Its a 1984,1800cc 3 door 8v, twin headlights,in red.
cheers
keith.
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 25 January 2003, 22:02
Probably a Mk1. 1984 must be close to the change over, I haven't seen any 'A' reg mk2's only B reg onwards. If you post some pics we could tell you for sure.

Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 26 January 2003, 21:05
just go look at the other sections of the forum...dont mean to be rude...but if it looks like a mk1...then it is...if it looks like a mk 2 ...then...

Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: jv on 26 January 2003, 21:13
I place my bet on it being a mk2. I don't think any mk1's crept into 1984...

jv
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 26 January 2003, 21:29
Weren't the 'campaigns' brought out in 1984 as a special edition to mark the end of the Mk1 range?
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: jv on 26 January 2003, 21:42
Possible but pushing it a bit. Just did some anorak-type research ?:)

The 'Campaign' model was available from August 1983 (A reg) until just into 1984. So a mk1 will not be on a B plate but it could be a very last of the line model that was registered at the start of 1984.

If Keith's is a mk1 it is going to look like this:

http://www.golfgti.co.uk/pageimages/mk1_red_campaign.jpg

jv
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 26 January 2003, 21:59
The Mk2 Golf went on sale in the UK in the autumn of 1983, the Mk2 GTI being available from May 1984, it was destined for great success.
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 26 January 2003, 22:00
mk1 campaign was available from August 1983 onwards, the last ones being sold early in 1984. The original Mk1s days were numbered, although the original shape was still available in the convertible version of the car until 1993.
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 26 January 2003, 22:04
Guess what we really need to know is whether it's on an 'A' plate or 'B' plate. Keith are you getting any of this? Maybe you could shed some light?
If it is a Mk1 it could be one of the rare 'campaign' models.......quite sought after.
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 26 January 2003, 22:37
If it is a mk 1...you might like to read this...the history of the mk1 gti

http://thebody.dnsalias.org/~daniel/bigshare/VW_Study.pdf

In fact... you might want to read it anyway...pretty interesting!
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: jv on 26 January 2003, 22:46
I remember reading that ages ago - good find!

jv
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 27 January 2003, 09:40
Excellent article, haven't seen that before, thanks Ben.
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: keithy on 27 January 2003, 17:55
Thanks to every one for there help, yes mine does look exactly like the 1 in the picture, and yeah sorry forgot to mention its on a b plate

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Possible but pushing it a bit. Just did some anorak-type research ?:)

The 'Campaign' model was available from August 1983 (A reg) until just into 1984. So a mk1 will not be on a B plate but it could be a very last of the line model that was registered at the start of 1984.

If Keith's is a mk1 it is going to look like this:

http://www.golfgti.co.uk/pageimages/mk1_red_campaign.jpg

jv

Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: keithy on 27 January 2003, 18:04
Thanks for the artical, very interesting indeed,cheers
keith.


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If it is a mk 1...you might like to read this...the history of the mk1 gti

http://thebody.dnsalias.org/~daniel/bigshare/VW_Study.pdf

In fact... you might want to read it anyway...pretty interesting!

Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: keithy on 27 January 2003, 18:08
sorting out a couple of pics asap !! thanks.


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Probably a Mk1. 1984 must be close to the change over, I haven't seen any 'A' reg mk2's only B reg onwards. If you post some pics we could tell you for sure.


Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 27 January 2003, 22:35
If its on a 'B' plate I would have thought it was an early Mk2. Don't think I have ever seen a Mk1 on a 'B' plate.
Strange therefore that you say yours does look like the one in the picture  ???
looking forward to seeing your pictures :-/  
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 28 January 2003, 14:48
Ok its confirmed its an early Mk2. Keith sent me the pictures this morning.
First effort at posting pics, hope this works:-

(http://members.lycos.co.uk/richandhazel/Keiths%20Mk2/GTI.jpg)
(http://members.lycos.co.uk/richandhazel/Keiths%20Mk2/GTI1.jpg)
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: jv on 28 January 2003, 14:58
riddle solved  :)

jv
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: keithy on 28 January 2003, 18:03
Thanks richandhazel, and everbody else as well,
at least i know what i got now :)



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Ok its confirmed its an early Mk2. Keith sent me the pictures this morning.
First effort at posting pics, hope this works:-

(http://members.lycos.co.uk/richandhazel/Keiths%20Mk2/GTI.jpg)
(http://members.lycos.co.uk/richandhazel/Keiths%20Mk2/GTI1.jpg)

Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 28 January 2003, 19:46
in the words of the wise...riddle solved.

Check your vin number here http://www.vwvids.co.uk/vintest.htm

For a bit of background on your golf...I think its an american thing but should give you some info...

Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 28 January 2003, 19:49
Stupid question but...

Is it me or does that look like the red 16 v badge under gti???

Has some one stuck that on for show??..

Or has it had a 16v engine transplant!!!..

Maybe not a 16v badge at all just me being stupid...
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 28 January 2003, 19:54
Also very sad thing I noticed...

It has the mk1 campaign p alloys (with 9 p's) the later mk2s had 8 p's!

Very sad that I know facts like that?(If there correct,someone may know different...)
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: MarsRed on 28 January 2003, 20:19
;)
Hello all,

Just a note to say that the first Mkll's were registered on an A plate aswell - My Dad had one - single tailpipe.

I've got a C reg Mkll - just like the one on this thread!

- It's Mars Red...
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 28 January 2003, 20:47
I might be seeing it wrong but doesn't it have the cutout for a single pipe and yet there are twin pipes fitted. That looks the same as my tailpipe and I was told that I had  a Scorpion exhaust system.
Looks like there has been some mods going on here. Maybe you're right Ben, maybe it is a 16V. :-/


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;)
Hello all,

Just a note to say that the first Mkll's were registered on an A plate aswell - My Dad had one - single tailpipe.

I've got a C reg Mkll - just like the one on this thread!

- It's Mars Red...

Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 28 January 2003, 20:55

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Also very sad thing I noticed...

It has the mk1 campaign p alloys (with 9 p's) the later mk2s had 8 p's!

Very sad that I know facts like that?(If there correct,someone may know different...)


Bloody hell  :o you are a keen enthusiast.
I'm at work now, but I just caught an email from you before I left.
Thanks for the comments about the Audi, I certainly don't regret buying it. This is my second coupe, my first was one of the GT's with the 5 cylinder engine. Had it for 10 years and it never let me down and I never had to do any non-sheduled work to it. Before that I had a Mk1 1600 Golf GTI.......fun ;D
You mentioned something about the seats and the folding mechanism. This is a 5 door Golf so the seats don't fold. Bummer really as my Cabrio has the same problem with the seats not folding forward.

Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 28 January 2003, 21:20
I'm not a complete geek!...honest

My mate who was round on the weekend has a beautiful mk1 campaign,he pointed out the difference in the wheels!

Not to worry about the seats,gives me a good excuse not to get out to let passengers in the back!

Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 28 January 2003, 21:27
Another worryingly sad fact from me!

The mk2 seats has the fold mechanism(I think) (no wires though)you can add the handle and wires apparently...

Personally I'll wait as I dont plan to be carrying more than 1 passenger as all my mates are too fat and slow me down!

but may be useful for your cabrio...
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 28 January 2003, 21:49
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Another worryingly sad fact from me!

The mk2 seats has the fold mechanism(I think) (no wires though)you can add the handle and wires apparently...

Personally I'll wait as I dont plan to be carrying more than 1 passenger as all my mates are too fat and slow me down!

but may be useful for your cabrio...


Oh OK, thanks. I'll have to have another look at the Mk2 seats......never even thought to look, hope you're right.
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: keithy on 29 January 2003, 12:28
The badge under gti on the front is 8v for sure,so i asume it is a 8v,  ???  and as for the wheels they was what was on it when i brought it, i have had it less than 2weeks and dont know hardly anything about what the previous owner may have done to it in anyway,as for the exhuast, all i can say is that it was fitted at a kwik fit place as i found the receipt in the glove box,and it cost him ?100.
keith.
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: 87_PROJECT on 29 January 2003, 15:03
yep...my error!

Some 8v badges are red!!!
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: m3_gti on 09 February 2003, 20:55
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a Mark 5...
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 09 February 2003, 20:57
Hey, what comes round goes round..........you never know??????
Title: Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: MK1_BOY on 18 May 2003, 13:27
My mate had a MK2 a reg golf, very rare but they do exist....  I have a a reg MK1 campain, well am getting one in a week....  Cant wait boys, its a bad car, ask Project_87.....  Hello Rich & Ben ;D
Title: ;)Re: What Mark is Mine ???
Post by: richandhazel on 19 May 2003, 18:05
Hi Marcus,
How are you? How's Ben.......still gutted about the wheel?   :'(

With lots of TLC and a bit of money we'll soon have that campaign looking its former glory.........gotta look after these cars.  ;)