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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: mcmaddy on 16 July 2018, 19:51
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Auto express have just given the Continental premium contact 6 the winners trophy ahead of the Dunlop and then the Michelin. This is for 17" sizes mind.
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Some interesting results there. Including an unexpectedly (to me) strong 2nd place from the Dunlop. Taking into account result variations in different tests, it seems either the PS4 or the new CPC6 is the way to go.
Raises even more questions why VW are shipping GTIs from the factory shod with Bridgestone S001. So many vastly better alternatives, as this test proves. I guess Bridgestone must be dumping the S001 at bargain basement prices for OEM fitment.
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My Bridgestone's have been fine throughout the recent hot weather. Not every country has weather that's as rubbish as ours normally is. And some of those that do swap them out for winters for half the year. :smiley:
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I'll be honest and say I haven't had any issues with the Bridgestones and they've now got 15k miles on the fronts. During the summer they are absolutely fine but in cold weather they do take longer to warm up. If you don't try and drive like an a4se they are ok. Contis and Michelin will be better no doubt but I think it's totally pointless binning them at new like some have done.
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I'll be honest and say I haven't had any issues with the Bridgestones and they've now got 15k miles on the fronts. During the summer they are absolutely fine but in cold weather they do take longer to warm up. If you don't try and drive like an a4se they are ok. Contis and Michelin will be better no doubt but I think it's totally pointless binning them at new like some have done.
I couldn't agree more :smiley:
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My Bridgestone's have been fine throughout the recent hot weather. Not every country has weather that's as rubbish as ours normally is. And some of those that do swap them out for winters for half the year. :smiley:
That has been my experience of every Bridgestone I've driven on. Fine when hot, not so good in cold and rain. I swapped mine out from new for PS4s as I wanted year-round performance. I don't drive that hard, but want to know the grip is there if I need it in an emergency manoeuvre/braking. Plus the PS4s steer way better than the s001s. The front end comes to life.
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I used to buy vehicles as part of my job and always requested a certain brand and spec. of tyre.
Some suppliers would try and argue that it wasnt possible or try and charge a premiium but I got what I wanted without exception and never once paid any extra.
Previously I had asked the vehicle manufacturers why they used a range of brands of tyres.
Their answer was that their buyers were obligated to buy from a selection of tyre suppliers and not just fit the well known brands.
Seems a dozen or so lorries would arrive at the factory from the tyre producer and when the brand on the production line was exhausted they were the next brand to be fitted.
Never thought to ask for a specific brand on my recent Golf it would have been an interesting exercise.
But when they need replacing will be with Michelins.
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I used to buy vehicles as part of my job and always requested a certain brand and spec. of tyre.
Some suppliers would try and argue that it wasnt possible or try and charge a premiium but I got what I wanted without exception and never once paid any extra.
Previously I had asked the vehicle manufacturers why they used a range of brands of tyres.
Their answer was that their buyers were obligated to buy from a selection of tyre suppliers and not just fit the well known brands.
Seems a dozen or so lorries would arrive at the factory from the tyre producer and when the brand on the production line was exhausted they were the next brand to be fitted.
Never thought to ask for a specific brand on my recent Golf it would have been an interesting exercise.
But when they need replacing will be with Michelins.
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Tyre manufacturers offer car companies major discounts on their tyres because they know that a good number of car owners will simply replace tyres with the same as what was already fitted.
Therefore they'll sell a lot more tyres at retail prices (and profits).
The car companies simply wait for the next tyre rep to walk in the door to offer a better price. In truth this probably suits both parties as if one tyre manufacturer tried to supply all of (say) VW's tyre requirements, then a) they probably don't have the capacity and b) they wouldn't have the extra capacity to supply the retail side and generate the extra profits.
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Ask the same question about other things on your car... is there a better windscreen manufacturer, wiper blade manufacturer, infotainment manufacturer, brake manufacturer, suspension strut manufacturer.... etc etc VW actually manufacture very little of the parts list that make up 90% of your car... they buy them from people who make sub-components for cars.
Why pick one over the other? If it was Formula 1 it would be because one was better than the others in performance terms. In mass produced road going cars, its good enough and cheaper than the alternatives.
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I'll be honest and say I haven't had any issues with the Bridgestones and they've now got 15k miles on the fronts. During the summer they are absolutely fine but in cold weather they do take longer to warm up. If you don't try and drive like an a4se they are ok. Contis and Michelin will be better no doubt but I think it's totally pointless binning them at new like some have done.
I think the diff makes a big difference. I honestly though the tyres were pretty crap on the last one, and no really noticed any issues on this one. Got them both in summer so comparable temps. Old one spun up at every opportunity pulling out of junctions.
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When my Bridgestone's eventually :whistle: wear out, I'll certainly be replacing them with another brand, probably Michelin.
Having said that, I am not frivolous enough to simply bin perfectly good tyres to gain a bit more traction when I accelerate hard!
I appreciate that some drivers push considerably harder than others when they drive and some people have more money to burn :smiley:
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PP could very well help with traction and the Bridgestones. They aren't a bad tyre but then they are an old design and newer tyres will obviously be better as they are using latest technology.
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As I said, there are better brake pads/discs, better exhausts, better wipers, better seats.... some people change them at some point.
Some people get their car delivered brand new and swap all those parts.
Others wait until the OEM ones wear out then spend their money on better choices at that point.
Until then its a needless expense to achieve marginal benefits - you are driving on the road, not looking for a few tenths around a racetrack.
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Ask the same question about other things on your car... is there a better windscreen manufacturer, wiper blade manufacturer, infotainment manufacturer, brake manufacturer, suspension strut manufacturer.... etc etc VW actually manufacture very little of the parts list that make up 90% of your car... they buy them from people who make sub-components for cars.
Why pick one over the other? If it was Formula 1 it would be because one was better than the others in performance terms. In mass produced road going cars, its good enough and cheaper than the alternatives.
It's a shame that you have to consider replacing some things on day 1 for the car to perform as it should.
Tyres? Anything i've seen as OEM fitment but Bridgestones is fine by me. I've had new VWs come with Pirelli P7s, Contisport 3s, Dunlop SP01s and the dreaded RE050A / S001 variants of the Bridgestone Potenza - only the Bridgestones tramp in the dry with only 40% throttle, and 25% throttle in the wet. You can make do with the Bridgestones, but I doubt there is anyone here that wouldn't pick a different tyre if VW offered the option of paying an extra £50 per car for better rubber. Does anyone deny Bridgestone's rock hard and noisy ride, before we even delve into poor turn-in grip, feel and traction issues causing rampant tramping in non PP GTIs and GTDs? If they have poor grip, they'll also have sub-par stopping abilities (luckily I've never had a close call to know the difference).
It's fine to fit a tyre like that to a car with no torque or power, but why should you have to tolerate crap tyres on a £30k car which leave it well short of realising its potential? You don't have to be chucking a GTI/GTD around a track to realise the Bridgestones' shortcomings vs almost any of the rival brands in the same price/performance bracket when driving lawfully.
Once you wear those everlasting Bridgestones out, 6 months before your next car is on the way (if you change every 3 years), and you get some decent rubber, you'll realise how much better your car would've been the whole time.
Replace a new windscreen? If VW fitted foggy ones or ones which had a crap peripheral vision clarity then yes, it'd be binned. Never had one yet like that, so no need. Some people do insist on VW branded OEM replacements when in reality that Saint Gobain Quartz or Pilkington one is exactly the same as OEM (because they make the OEM ones for VW), but the manufacturer didn't etch the VW stamp on.
New wipers? Certainly, if the OEM ones smear - I have done that before because Valeo ones i've had from the factory have been poor, and the warranty replacements have also smeared. Perhaps the windscreens aren't properly decontaminated at fitment (something an Autoglass tech alluded to when I needed a new windscreen a week into ownership of a MK5 Golf), but Bosch Aerotwins are by far the best out there.
If I keep my R for the long term, it will be getting better rear discs when the time comes to replace, not so much for the performance (which is more than adequate), but one a little less prone to cosmetic hub rust.
If anyone is happy enough with their Bridgestones, I may have a brand new set of 18"ers coming my way. I have a Polo GTI+ on 18" Brescia wheels that's about 3 weeks away (to replace the wife's A1), and if that comes on Bridgestones, I will swap them out immediately. Any takers at £200 collected for the set? PM me if interested.
I have always been a bit of a tight-arse with options on cars (that give very little back at resale time and add significant depreciation vs the basic car), baulking at metallic paint prices (although I do still go for it unless buying a car that suits red - The Golf R doesn't, IMO), and also at optional wheels (although I went for the Prets on the R as the standard Cadiz were so ugly, again IMO). I winced at the prospect of paying out £600 to swap out my RE050A tyres for Michelin PSS, but as soon as I experienced the difference in ride, noise, steering feel and grip, I knew it was money well spent.
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I've got no issues with the Bridgestone's grip wise but I do agree they are very firm and can be loud.
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"......It's fine to fit a tyre like that to a car with no torque or power, but why should you have to tolerate crap tyres on a £30k car which leave it well short of realising its potential? You don't have to be chucking a GTI/GTD around a track to realise the Bridgestones' shortcomings vs almost any of the rival brands in the same price/performance bracket when driving lawfully.
Once you wear those everlasting Bridgestones out, 6 months before your next car is on the way (if you change every 3 years), and you get some decent rubber, you'll realise how much better your car would've been the whole time........ I winced at the prospect of paying out £600 to swap out my RE050A tyres for Michelin PSS, but as soon as I experienced the difference in ride, noise, steering feel and grip, I knew it was money well spent."
Well said, Sir.
Tyres last me 4+ years, so swapping out the Bridgestones from new was a no brainer. No way was I going to put up with the BS's shortcomings for that length of time. The other major factor was that I have a tame tyre retailer who does me a good deal when swapping over - it cost me only ~225 pounds to swap all four tyres (This is the third time I've swapped from new for better tyres).
As I've said, I don't drive that hard, but the peace of mind of knowing my tyres are going to give me maximum response and protection in the event of an emergency is well worth the money, IMO. I've previously had Bridgestones (RE030s) let me down badly in that respect, so I'm not prepared to take the chance again.
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Australia should be perfectly fine with your climate for the Bridgestones but if you want to waste money that's entirely up to you. I think most of the problem with Bridgestones is forums like this. One person says they are rubbish then everyone jumps on the wandwagon. A bit like a pedal box, one person says they have a dull throttle response and all of a sudden everyone else does. If the Bridgestone wasn't a safe tyre then it wouldn't be allowed on a car and on actual fact they are an ok tyre.
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Australia should be perfectly fine with your climate for the Bridgestones but if you want to waste money that's entirely up to you. I think most of the problem with Bridgestones is forums like this. One person says they are rubbish then everyone jumps on the wandwagon. A bit like a pedal box, one person says they have a dull throttle response and all of a sudden everyone else does. If the Bridgestone wasn't a safe tyre then it wouldn't be allowed on a car and on actual fact they are an ok tyre.
I'm in Hobart, Australia's coldest capital city - similar climate to the UK. We have lots of cold and wet roads.
I don't consider spending money on better tyres a waste of money. I had tyres which even on a new car (ie. driven modestly) were breaking traction on take-off in the wet. So I chose better, safer tyres. I now enjoy my car more. Plus have peace of mind knowing my braking distances are shorter, I have better aquaplaning resistance, better grip for emergency manoeuvres and I'm safer. Not to mention the steering is sharper and the car generally more enjoyable to drive. Hardly a waste of money. But if you're perfectly happy on S001s, good for you.
Suggest you read some reviews on the S001s. Here's just one to start you off. Note the date. They were way off the pace even back then. http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-EVO-Max-Performance-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm Bridgestone even stopped submitting the S001 for high performance tyre reviews these past few years - instead providing the Turanza - a touring tyre. Which says it all, really.
But I get the feeling we're never going to agree on this, so enjoy your S001s :wink: I'll continue to enjoy my PS4.
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I actually agree with Monkey about paying extra for Contis or PS4's as an option. As an option, I'd take it for sure. At the cost of ~300 quid and then try to find somewhere to out my 99% new BS's.... its not something I would do personally.
As a 20k miles a year driver, my BS's will be gone sooner than most - in fact I've already eaten the OEM fronts and have swapped the rears to the front to use them up.
The BS's last me ~15k on the front but 65k on the rear....
In about November I should be BS free and PS4's for the rest of my time with this GTD. I know it will be much quieter and handle better when I do... but still not worth the hassle on day one.
There is, as others have alluded to, much more in OEM tyre selection than just cost and I'm quite sure that the deal between BS and VW wouldn't allow for other options plus another tyre gives them logistical issues around production too, which costs VW more money. Some people wouldn't grasp just quite how much fine tuning just in time manufacturing contributes towards profits for a car maker. It really is very, very precise and anything which causes them problems will be crushed pretty quickly.
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If anyone is happy enough with their Bridgestones, I may have a brand new set of 18"ers coming my way. I have a Polo GTI+ on 18" Brescia wheels that's about 3 weeks away (to replace the wife's A1), and if that comes on Bridgestones, I will swap them out immediately. Any takers at £200 collected for the set? PM me if interested.
The Polo will have 215-40-18 tyres
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Australia should be perfectly fine with your climate for the Bridgestones but if you want to waste money that's entirely up to you. I think most of the problem with Bridgestones is forums like this. One person says they are rubbish then everyone jumps on the wandwagon. A bit like a pedal box, one person says they have a dull throttle response and all of a sudden everyone else does. If the Bridgestone wasn't a safe tyre then it wouldn't be allowed on a car and on actual fact they are an ok tyre.
I haven't had Bridgestones as on 19s, standard fit were Pirellis which were pretty good and lasted me 20k miles (for all 4). But I would get tramping with them fairly regularly which was very irritating even though I am a generally sedate driver (very little opportunity round here for spirited driving with the traffic and cameras). Swapping to Michelins has made a huge improvement. In the 7 months I've had them there has been no tramping and just a couple of occasions of wheelspin but then it was pretty cold and wet last winter. I wouldn't have swapped them before the Pirellis wore out because being 19s the cost was far from insignificant however I could fully understand why some would. So it is not a waste of money, it is just personal choice. Likewise the pedalbox. Fair enough and good for you, you are happy with the stock setup. Again, personal choice. But the difference is like night and day, that cannot be denied, but that is not for everyone. I like it :smiley: As for one person makes a comment then others jump on the bandwagon, in some ways I think that's true but as with many things in life, things are accepted as the way they are until you discover there is something better, surely that's a good thing? I've bought all sorts of bits and pieces for my car based on recommendations on here, I didn't have to, but these cars are more of a hobby than most as a humdrum model would do 90% of what the performance versions do for 90% of the time plus they are cheaper to buy and run. But we didn't buy one of those because to us these are better so why not look to improving them too? Isn't that why we all frequent this forum?
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Ask the same question about other things on your car... is there a better windscreen manufacturer, wiper blade manufacturer, infotainment manufacturer, brake manufacturer, suspension strut manufacturer.... etc etc VW actually manufacture very little of the parts list that make up 90% of your car... they buy them from people who make sub-components for cars.
Why pick one over the other? If it was Formula 1 it would be because one was better than the others in performance terms. In mass produced road going cars, its good enough and cheaper than the alternatives.
Once you wear those everlasting Bridgestones out, 6 months before your next car is on the way (if you change every 3 years), and you get some decent rubber, you'll realise how much better your car would've been the whole time.
I wore my fronts out in 10k...... :grin:
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Bridgestone's switched 150 miles into driving the car. Cost me £120 to swap them to PS4s, best thing I ever did :smiley:
Dunlop :shocked:
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I've had one puncture in over 2 years of ownership. That one puncture cost me a damaged alloy and 3 months of hassle getting it sorted out.
The thought of willingly taking all 4 tyres off and fitting new, for no other reason than than a tad less noise and a tad more grip, fills me with dread :laugh:
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Australia should be perfectly fine with your climate for the Bridgestones but if you want to waste money that's entirely up to you. I think most of the problem with Bridgestones is forums like this. One person says they are rubbish then everyone jumps on the wandwagon. A bit like a pedal box, one person says they have a dull throttle response and all of a sudden everyone else does. If the Bridgestone wasn't a safe tyre then it wouldn't be allowed on a car and on actual fact they are an ok tyre.
I'm in Hobart, Australia's coldest capital city - similar climate to the UK. We have lots of cold and wet roads.
I don't consider spending money on better tyres a waste of money. I had tyres which even on a new car (ie. driven modestly) were breaking traction on take-off in the wet. So I chose better, safer tyres. I now enjoy my car more. Plus have peace of mind knowing my braking distances are shorter, I have better aquaplaning resistance, better grip for emergency manoeuvres and I'm safer. Not to mention the steering is sharper and the car generally more enjoyable to drive. Hardly a waste of money. But if you're perfectly happy on S001s, good for you.
Suggest you read some reviews on the S001s. Here's just one to start you off. Note the date. They were way off the pace even back then. http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-EVO-Max-Performance-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm Bridgestone even stopped submitting the S001 for high performance tyre reviews these past few years - instead providing the Turanza - a touring tyre. Which says it all, really.
But I get the feeling we're never going to agree on this, so enjoy your S001s :wink: I'll continue to enjoy my PS4.
Might need to wind your neck in a bit. I said in a previous post the Bridgestones were old and newer tyres would be better from Michelin or Continental. For general driving though they are fine. Will I put them back on, no so calm down and carry on enjoying your PS4s which I'll probably put on come change time.
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Australia should be perfectly fine with your climate for the Bridgestones but if you want to waste money that's entirely up to you. I think most of the problem with Bridgestones is forums like this. One person says they are rubbish then everyone jumps on the wandwagon. A bit like a pedal box, one person says they have a dull throttle response and all of a sudden everyone else does. If the Bridgestone wasn't a safe tyre then it wouldn't be allowed on a car and on actual fact they are an ok tyre.
Is it a waste of money to buy tyres befitting of the performance potential of the car because VW chose so poorly, or is it more of a waste to buy a GTI/GTD and then have to drive it like it's a 1.0TSI 85ps Golf S to avoid breaking traction frequently in every day situations, rather than just buying the S?
Your GTD came on better rubber than mine, and your PP's LSD reins in the tramping, but even then, having the R, I still felt poor turn in grip in the mildest of winter weather (slight slippage on a large roundabout at 11C, following behind a RWD BMW118d that skipped around at twice the speed I was doing).
It's not being a sheep to say Bridgestones are a very poor "premium" tyre, my opinions on them are based on frequently suffering poor traction on 3 VWs bought from new with them (including the MK7 GTD), and not suffering it on any of the other VWs I have had which came on different rubber. I don't know anyone else on here putting down Bridgestones that haven't also had them and experienced their shortcomings.
You admit yourself that at replacement time you won't be buying Bridgestones again. It's one thing to compare the Bridgestones to the best of the best and denigrate them, but when they are poor performers next to all of their peers, you're "making do" with something that is impeding the car's potential in performance and safety terms.
Look around on the German forums and you'll realise that VW don't put Bridgestones on German market GTIs or GTDs, I wonder why that is? They wouldn't put up with it.
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I'm way too tight to just replace them and I've no doubt a fresh set of PS4 or Continentals will be much better. I honestly haven't had any issues with them at all since picking the car up even in torrential rain so the only thing helping must be LSD. They don't work in the snow but then again neither do any other summer tyres :grin: I'll be the first to post up on the forum once new tyres are on and let everyone know the massive difference (could be sooner rather than later as the rears are starting to crack slightly in between the tread blocks).
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Look around on the German forums and you'll realise that VW don't put Bridgestones on German market GTIs or GTDs, I wonder why that is? They wouldn't put up with it.
Probably because that was a different territory in their great tyre supplier carve up.... either that or they perceive that because of German road laws about summer and winter tyres, you don't need to spec an average all rounder and can get away with supplying something else?
Out of interest, if you buy a car in Germany during the winter.... is it supplied with winter tyres?
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All the 2nd hand car Ive looked at in Germany have had both sets of tyres and rims included in the price.
Its why all our VWs have a boot that is 4 tyres wide with strap fixings at either side.
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What about new cars? Do VW offer to sell you both sets of tyres/wheels and if you don't choose both do you get the current season fitted?
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I wore my fronts out in 10k...... :grin:
Not trying hard enough Jim, my front P-Zero's lasted 6K... :laugh:
Much prefer the PS4S's. :smiley:
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Changed out my Bridgestones last week after 13000 miles, 2 still had another 7 or 8k in them but unfortunately a nail through the edge made one useless.
Went for the PS4s from Costco for £426 but got a £50 voucher in return - I was thinking of spending that on some Levi's but apparently it's going on food for this weekends BBQ :sad:
The tyre fitters were raving about how good the PS4s are and said you can feel the difference in the sidewalls when fitting them. They both had PS4s fitted to their own cars.
First thing i noticed is the tyre noise - its gone!
They feel good when turning in but I haven't done many miles yet and obviously can't comment on wet weather handling.
I think the diff does mask shortcomings of the Bridgestones - I could hear (more than feel) the tyres slipping in the wet when in the lower gears before and that had to be down to the diff.
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Changed out my Bridgestones last week after 13000 miles, 2 still had another 7 or 8k in them but unfortunately a nail through the edge made one useless.
Went for the PS4s from Costco for £426 but got a £50 voucher in return - I was thinking of spending that on some Levi's but apparently it's going on food for this weekends BBQ :sad:
The tyre fitters were raving about how good the PS4s are and said you can feel the difference in the sidewalls when fitting them. They both had PS4s fitted to their own cars.
First thing i noticed is the tyre noise - its gone!
They feel good when turning in but I haven't done many miles yet and obviously can't comment on wet weather handling.
I think the diff does mask shortcomings of the Bridgestones - I could hear (more than feel) the tyres slipping in the wet when in the lower gears before and that had to be down to the diff.
Is that PS4S or PS4's (Disclaimer: incorrect grammar for explanatory purposes only :wink:).
I got horrid axle tramp a couple of times on very moderate throttle starts in the wet on the S001s, but none since changing to PS4.
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What about new cars? Do VW offer to sell you both sets of tyres/wheels and if you don't choose both do you get the current season fitted?
My understanding was that with a new reg. you got whatever the brochure stated, the all steel black rims and winter tyres were an extra from the dealer.
Rarely go the Germany these days or I would ask.
You could always 'surf it' as see?
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I've worked in the tyre industry for over 15yrs. You'd be amazed at the homoligation process for a tyre to get OE approval.
Over 100 scientists and technicians fine tuning the characteristics required by the vehicle maker. There will be circa 50 different performance criteria a tyre must achieve.
Some car makers put more importance on certain criteria than others. Benz for example place a high importance of low noise (suits the ethos of their brand) BMW prefer to focus on grip and steering feel (Again, suits their "ultimate driving machine" ethos)
As someone else pointed out, not all climates are like ours. And not all drivers expect the same from a tyre.
But don't assume that it's a simple price based decision as to who gets the OE appoval. Otherwise they'd all come fitted with linglong or which ever chinese budget tyre was available on the day.
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Changed out my Bridgestones last week after 13000 miles, 2 still had another 7 or 8k in them but unfortunately a nail through the edge made one useless.
Went for the PS4s from Costco for £426 but got a £50 voucher in return - I was thinking of spending that on some Levi's but apparently it's going on food for this weekends BBQ :sad:
The tyre fitters were raving about how good the PS4s are and said you can feel the difference in the sidewalls when fitting them. They both had PS4s fitted to their own cars.
First thing i noticed is the tyre noise - its gone!
They feel good when turning in but I haven't done many miles yet and obviously can't comment on wet weather handling.
I think the diff does mask shortcomings of the Bridgestones - I could hear (more than feel) the tyres slipping in the wet when in the lower gears before and that had to be down to the diff.
Is that PS4S or PS4's (Disclaimer: incorrect grammar for explanatory purposes only :wink:).
I got horrid axle tramp a couple of times on very moderate throttle starts in the wet on the S001s, but none since changing to PS4.
I looked in Costco tyre dept a few weeks ago(anticipating getting Bridgestones and wondering how much a set of PSS/PS4 or PS4S will cost. For the prices seen i'd say £106.50 a corner= PS4 with PSS at around £120 and PS4S at around £150 a corner for 18".
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If anyone is happy enough with their Bridgestones, I may have a brand new set of 18"ers coming my way. I have a Polo GTI+ on 18" Brescia wheels that's about 3 weeks away (to replace the wife's A1), and if that comes on Bridgestones, I will swap them out immediately. Any takers at £200 collected for the set? PM me if interested.
The Polo will have 215-40-18 tyres
Aye, you're right. Damn, 215 width much less common in 18", so may actually cost more for tyres than 225/40 R18.
Will 225/40/R18 tyres fit those Polo 18" Brescias? They're 7.5Jx 18, just like the Golf's 18" Parker Alloys which are shod with 225/40 R18 tyres. An extra 5mm width either side shouldn't cause any snagging/rubbing issues, surely? Wondering why VW went with the narrower wheels for the Polo, squeezed into a lower emissions bracket for the effect of the marginally lower rolling resistance?
Update: On Black circles, the 225 wide PS4 is £108, the 215 is £146! :shocked:
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Changed out my Bridgestones last week after 13000 miles, 2 still had another 7 or 8k in them but unfortunately a nail through the edge made one useless.
Went for the PS4s from Costco for £426 but got a £50 voucher in return - I was thinking of spending that on some Levi's but apparently it's going on food for this weekends BBQ :sad:
The tyre fitters were raving about how good the PS4s are and said you can feel the difference in the sidewalls when fitting them. They both had PS4s fitted to their own cars.
First thing i noticed is the tyre noise - its gone!
They feel good when turning in but I haven't done many miles yet and obviously can't comment on wet weather handling.
I think the diff does mask shortcomings of the Bridgestones - I could hear (more than feel) the tyres slipping in the wet when in the lower gears before and that had to be down to the diff.
Is that PS4S or PS4's (Disclaimer: incorrect grammar for explanatory purposes only :wink:).
I got horrid axle tramp a couple of times on very moderate throttle starts in the wet on the S001s, but none since changing to PS4.
I'm obviously going to blame spellchecker/iPad etc but they were PS4's :whistle:
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If anyone is happy enough with their Bridgestones, I may have a brand new set of 18"ers coming my way. I have a Polo GTI+ on 18" Brescia wheels that's about 3 weeks away (to replace the wife's A1), and if that comes on Bridgestones, I will swap them out immediately. Any takers at £200 collected for the set? PM me if interested.
The Polo will have 215-40-18 tyres
Aye, you're right. Damn, 215 width much less common in 18", so may actually cost more for tyres than 225/40 R18.
You can always advertise them in the ‘for sale’ section on the Polo forum, or keep them and put them back on the car when you sell it if it’s in need of new tyres at the time.
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I looked in Costco tyre dept a few weeks ago(anticipating getting Bridgestones and wondering how much a set of PSS/PS4 or PS4S will cost. For the prices seen i'd say £106.50 a corner= PS4 with PSS at around £120 and PS4S at around £150 a corner for 18".
I didn't think they made PS4S in 18"? Only the PS4...
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I fitted Falken FK510 in March this year so was pleased to see the good results they got against the cost . They were £69 a tyre fitted .A lot less than the premium makes for only a marginal performance drop off, I have got past driving at anything like as fast as I used to . Mobile speed cameras, cyclists etc and age ! I know I will be chastised on here for not getting Contis but until you try theses tyres you will not appreciate how close they are to the best . I can live with that .