Sequential Shift on VAG gearboxes

[mrzen]

I've often wondered this - but I find the sequential gearbox on VAG cars counter-intuitive - I want to push when I'm braking, and pull when I'm accelerating, but the engineers have done it the other way round.

Rally cars seem to do it right, as to BMWs in my experience...

I'd be interested in hearing the general consensus?

Make your vote to see the results...

[JBirchy]

Totally agree with you mrzen. VW have it the wrong way round IMO!

Range Rover have changed it on the new Sport and Jag have it 'correct' on the F-Type too. You should pull back to upshift and push forward to downshift in my opinion.

[corgi]

I'm with you.

The reason it is done like that is because under acceleration it is easier to pull the leaver as that is you're (equal and opposite) reaction to acceleration... the reverse, of course is true for braking...

[mrzen]

There should be a way of reversing it perhaps, so the driver can decide...

[Hawaii-Five-O]

I'm with you guys on this. However, I got used to it as this is my second DSG box.

[Ivor Mk4 Turbo]

There should be a way of reversing it perhaps, so the driver can decide...

I remember on my old E46 330, the down shift was the "wrong" way around (pull=downshift & v/v) - opposite to what it must be now on newer BMW auto's, then??

However, there was a simple fix.................

You just popped the gaitor off & switched the +/- wires - ever so simple.  (I'm not sure, but I can't remember switching it back when I sold the car on!  They may have got a bit of a shock one day!). 

Perhaps someone could have a look at this on their DSG??? 

[mrzen]

The BMWs I drove were newer, with the funny shaped joystick gear lever like this:



You can see this is the other way round to the VAG ones...

[mrzen]

Quick Google images search for "auto gearlever" and by no means an accurate poll, but

Push to downshift:
Maserati
BMW
Holden!
All rally cars (afaik)

Push to upshift:
VAG
Porsche
Bugatti
Hyundai
Peugeot
Smart

Interesting that more seem to do it in the counter-intuitive way!

Must get on with some work now.

[corgi]

Quick Google images search for "auto gearlever" and by no means an accurate poll, but

Push to downshift:
Maserati
BMW
Holden!
All rally cars (afaik)

Push to upshift:
VAG
Porsche
Bugatti
Hyundai
Peugeot
Smart

Interesting that more seem to do it in the counter-intuitive way!

Must get on with some work now.

Think newer (PDK) Porsche cars are pull to change up... have a look on google images...

[mrzen]

Seems then that people have noticed that it's wrong and manufacturers are gradually catching on...



"established motorsport principles"...