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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Sootchucker on 08 May 2013, 11:40
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As above really, is there anything your current car has that you will miss on the upcoming GTI/GTD's, and anything that you most certainly won't.
For instance, coming from a Scirocco, I still think it's a beautiful looking car, and I thinks it's the looks I will miss the most. The MK7 Golf is a handsome car in GTi/GTD trim (a little boring otherwise), but I think the Rocco beats it hands down (personal feeling). Also in the 2½ years I've had it, it's been faultlessly reliable, with no creaks or squeaks at all. Great economy with a good turn of speed (although I'm hoping the GTD will have this as well).
Things I wont miss. The frameless windows. Great in the summer, a bloody pain in the a*se in the winter. No proper DRL's i.e. VW took the easy path and just switch the headlights on all the time to act as DRL's despite the car being equipped with Auto lights (which virtually rendered them useless). To be fair, I've changed this using VCDS. No external release on the boot, it's a pain having to reach for the key or go in the car every time you want to open the boot. 18" interlagos alloys - look stunning when clean but a nightmare to keep clean and with the small spoke gap, becomes difficult to clean the rear wheel faces (although my wheel wollie's suffice :laugh:). The 4x4 Stance. Why a car like as Scirocco has to have such a massive ride height on a car with sporting pretensions is beyond me.
It may seem I'm being hard on the Rocco, but I'm not, It's a fantastic car, and were it not for the new GTD / GTI's raising the bar again, I probably would have kept it despite it's limitations, however now I'm in the mindset to change, I cant' wait for the GTD to arrive.
However times do change, and the attraction of getting back into a 5 door hatchback was calling me. The tech has moved on massively on the Golf and will surely be a much safer car to travel in. I really like my toys so it's very gratifying that the Golf will have more toys than I know what to do with :laugh: :laugh:
What about you. Why did you change cars ?
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Driving an Audi TT at the moment for the "summer"
What I'll miss:
4 wheel drive (in the winter), the quattro system is excellent
Brilliant handling (although I'm sure the GTI will be just as good)
What I won't miss:
Sh!te mpg
Wind noise (convertible)
Being low down & therefore feeling all the bumps in the road (although my GTI will be on 19's so maybe not :laugh:)
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Driving an Audi TT at the moment for the "summer"
What I'll miss:
4 wheel drive (in the winter), the quattro system is excellent
Brilliant handling (although I'm sure the GTI will be just as good)
What I won't miss:
Sh!te mpg
Wind noise (convertible)
Being low down & therefore feeling all the bumps in the road (although my GTI will be on 19's so maybe not :laugh:)
Same here. My current car is a mk2 TT and I will most definitely miss its looks. I think it's still one of the nicest cars on the road and a real head turner. Ill actually miss the low down driving style as you feel as if you are in a real sports coupe. I loved the car but I hated the stealers, they were a nightmare to deal with - very arrogant.
My TT was a base model with no options as I couldn't afford any at the time, I just wanted a TT so much. The GTI is going to offer me so much more even if I hadn't specced any options.
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Norbreck21a: My sentiments almost mirror yours on the Scirocco. Still not bored with it. Looks the business still (despite all the clones that have cropped up, none have surpassed the Scirocco).
The touch screen RCD510, 18" standard GT wheels and ACC in addition to the usual high end Golf 5/6 equipment (like autolights, rear dimming mirror etc) were a revelation at the time and made the MK5/6 look poor value in comparison for the standard kit they had.
I was equally annoyed about the auto lights that were always on (sidelights are my DRLs right now), but equally pleased when VCDS allowed me to add needle sweep and XDS (I had a mental few days flinging the car around roundabouts to assure myself that I did actually have XDS and that I hadn't just activated a dead module). I did have the dreaded boot creak/rattle on both of mine but they've been the 2 most reliable VWs i've had from new by far.
I did find it an odd mix of owners on the forums, i'm used to VW fans buying VWs, but the Scirocco saw lots of non VAG fans buying it because it was a trendy car - people coming in from Minis etc.
I do think it will be the charva car of choice in future when they can be bought used for less than half RRP.
With the 20% economy gains, 15PS more power, better residuals and a stack of standard equipment though, the GTD is going to be a far better car I think, even if it doesn't look quite as good.
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Yep, they are great cars and awesome fun to chuck around as they grip the road brilliantly!
Had the misfortune to deal with Audi stealers on more than one occasion - so far up their own ar$e its unreal. Certainly the worst I've come across.
The GTI will p!ss all over it, can't wait!! :laugh:
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Monkeyhanger: like you I dread the day when the poor Rocco comes down to the price point of the young chav set, as I can just see it now with halfords special spoilers, graphics etc.
oh dear, that will be a sad old day.
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I'm only changing 'cos I'm a tart.
I love my mk6 and everything about it.
Mind you, it's not quite factory standard...
It's the new tech of the mk7 that appeals to me, the extra spec as standard and I just had a feeling from the very beginning that VW would do something a bit more special with the mk7 as the competition has moved on a lot and the mk6 became very poor value unless you got a heavily discounted ED35
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I'm only changing 'cos I'm a tart.
Well you said it :grin: :grin: :grin:
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I won't be missing the "timing chain tensioner" fault on my 6. This is partly why I decided to change... Even though they replaced the engine under warranty I was still concerned that the same thing would eventually happen again.
Just hope this new EA888 engine has a new modified tensioner & we won't see the same sort of problems.
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Out of interest, what problems are these (being a Diesel owner I don't know about petrol issues).
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Basically I woke up one morning with the car sounding rough as Hell! Sounded like a bloody tractor. Booked it into VW straightaway to have it looked at. Next day got a phone call to say that the whole engine needed replacing due to a fault with the timing chain... luckyy for me it was all covered under warranty or else it would have been a £4k plus bill!! Car was only two years old & covered 16k miles
I won't bore you with all the details but here's the link if you're interested
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=247041.0
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Norbreck: Nowt to worry about on the GTD, it has a timing belt, not a timing chain. There is the cost of belt replacement to deal with though.
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Yeah, I wasn't worried just being nosey. I'd heard of coil pack issues and premature wear of the cam followers on GTI's , but hadn't heard anything about the timing belt ?
Let's hope they have sorted all the issues out on the MK7 platform then.
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Norbreck: There is the cost of belt replacement to deal with though.
No need to worry about that. The belts are designed to last the life of the engine. (Or should that be the other way round?)
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Number one thing I'll miss about my Scirocco is the looks, and the fact it's a dedicated coupe. I got one fairly early in the life cycle in 2009 and back then it just looked the dogs! Now there are so many clones about such as the Astra GTC and Hyundai Veloster etc, etc its kinda lost its exclusivity. I also feel VW have let it get a bit long in the tooth and not given it any kind of refresh which does surprise me. Maybe now is the perfect time to move on from the Scirocco but I will be very sad to see it go. A truly awesome all rounder!
I couldn't wait for the the Mk 4 to arrive so that's why I've jumped ship back to a Golf. This will be my third so I know the car well.. Taking a bit of a risk by not being able to test drive one before signing on the dotted line but I'm sure it will be ace.
Things I don't like about the Scirocco:
Ride height (ridiculously high on such a sporty car)
Rain pouring in off the roof through open windows (quite shocking)
Creaks and rattles have driven me mad (hope the mk7 is better screwed together)
7 Speed DSG not perfect (but I'd rather have the benefits)
Lack of any kind of LED lights or LED DRL's (everyone's got 'em now)
VW are letting a gem get a bit tired now which is sad (but not the cars fault)
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the thing's I will miss from my car that is a Peugeot RCZ is the looks of it (the stares and comments I get from it in that department is amazing) and I will miss bluetooth audio from my iPhone (not sure if the Golf has this feature or not if it does I will be over the moon)
What I am not going to miss is the reliability or lack of (had it since new and been constantly some issue in one form or another) and the lack of rear head and leg room making it almost impossible to have anyone in the back of the car also the comments and jokes I get from owning a Peugeot.
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Good news is Tom, Bluetooth streaming of music is standard on the Golf :smiley:
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Good news is Tom, Bluetooth streaming of music is standard on the Golf :smiley:
Really glad to hear that it is standard was going to really miss that feature, thanks for letting me know :smiley:
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Good news is Tom, Bluetooth streaming of music is standard on the Golf :smiley:
Anyone know if the latest "composition media" supports the audio artist/track names over Bluetooth? The RNS in my MK6 doesn't but it works in my dads ford focus! Nice feature.
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I believe it does, with cover art too!
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I believe it does, with cover art too!
Are you sure that's not just with the SD card or MDI connection?
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I believe it does, with cover art too!
Are you sure that's not just with the SD card or MDI connection?
Good question. Unsure to be honest. I know you'll get cover art from your iphone/mp3, and cover art for the dab stations (this is defo via sd card though).
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I will probably (for a while) miss having my present 5-door Golf... practicality didn't play much of a part in this order :)
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the comments and jokes I get from owning a Peugeot.
A colleague at work has an RCZ and is very radged when we refer to it as an ALDI TT. :whistle:
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Coming from a Mk5 GTI with no options, the only thing I'll miss is the car itself. It's been the bet car I've ever owned, and hope for more of the same feelings with the Mk7.
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the comments and jokes I get from owning a Peugeot.
A colleague at work has an RCZ and is very radged when we refer to it as an ALDI TT. :whistle:
I have to admit I never heard the Aldi TT line (I have to admit its a good one though), but I know on the RCZ forum they hate it being compared to the TT (its considered to be an insult to some).
I mostly get the jokes regarding it being a Peugeot i.e. poorly built and owned by bad drivers (can't comment on the last one though)
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the comments and jokes I get from owning a Peugeot.
A colleague at work has an RCZ and is very radged when we refer to it as an ALDI TT. :whistle:
I have to admit I never heard the Aldi TT line (I have to admit its a good one though), but I know on the RCZ forum they hate it being compared to the TT (its considered to be an insult to some).
I mostly get the jokes regarding it being a Peugeot i.e. poorly built and owned by bad drivers (can't comment on the last one though)
Poking fun aside, I've always thought the RCZ looked fantastic in the flesh. However, unless Peugeot come up with a sub-brand they're never gonna get away from their brand perception. They had the same problems trying to sell the 607 at the upper-end and struggled (a problem VW also have with the Phaeton - great car but know one wants to pay A8, S-Class money for a Volkswagen)
Aldi TT is quite funny though :laugh:
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I think the thing I would miss the most if I ordered a new GTD, would be....money!
Something has to be said for having a buffer in this current climate. I also don't really believe the car will be such a leap forward from the mk6 and will not bring such a WoW factor that going from a mk5 GT TDI 140 to the GTD did. My GTD has 54K on the clock now has just turned 3yrs old. Its (touches wood) very reliable, it gets me every where I want to go it, has the performance I need, when I need it and the fuel economy that I require (55+mpg).
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I think the thing I would miss the most if I ordered a new GTD, would be....money!
Something has to be said for having a buffer in this current climate. I also don't really believe the car will be such a leap forward from the mk6 and will not bring such a WoW factor that going from a mk5 GT TDI 140 to the GTD did. My GTD has 54K on the clock now has just turned 3yrs old. Its (touches wood) very reliable, it gets me every where I want to go it, has the performance I need, when I need it and the fuel economy that I require (55+mpg).
Sounds very much like someone wants a MK7 and is trying to convince himself otherwise :grin:
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I have to admit I never heard the Aldi TT line (I have to admit its a good one though), but I know on the RCZ forum they hate it being compared to the TT (its considered to be an insult to some).
I mostly get the jokes regarding it being a Peugeot i.e. poorly built and owned by bad drivers (can't comment on the last one though)
Poking fun aside, I've always thought the RCZ looked fantastic in the flesh. However, unless Peugeot come up with a sub-brand they're never gonna get away from their brand perception. They had the same problems trying to sell the 607 at the upper-end and struggled (a problem VW also have with the Phaeton - great car but know one wants to pay A8, S-Class money for a Volkswagen)
Aldi TT is quite funny though :laugh:
Oh I totally agree the looks are what sold the car to me and Peugeot have been trying hard to gain brand loyalty with their customers (I was having problems with my exhaust system rattling and the guy who designed and developed the part was emailing me about it wanting to know everything about the issue and explained whats going on)
What Peugeot really need to do is sort of what Fiat did in the middle of the 2000's by pushing there brand values to the public and created products that focused on it (the Fiat Grande Punto and the 500 achieved this and helped save the company) and would say VW group learnt this very well by having each brand focusing on different ideals
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As my new GTI is going to be *at least* a month longer than expected... I gave my current MK5 a good wash and wax today... I really think I'm going to miss it... My excitement of picking up my MK7 is being haunted with having to part with her :cry:
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I think the thing I would miss the most if I ordered a new GTD, would be....money!
Something has to be said for having a buffer in this current climate. I also don't really believe the car will be such a leap forward from the mk6 and will not bring such a WoW factor that going from a mk5 GT TDI 140 to the GTD did. My GTD has 54K on the clock now has just turned 3yrs old. Its (touches wood) very reliable, it gets me every where I want to go it, has the performance I need, when I need it and the fuel economy that I require (55+mpg).
Sounds very much like someone wants a MK7 and is trying to convince himself otherwise :grin:
I am watching some of the threads of people that have been having poor fuel economy of the TDI 150s too and that worries me, certainly wouldn't want to step backwards on that front. But really I cannot see the benefits, but I can see the financial cost!!!
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Miss
- Quattro Maybe?
- Badge Some have already said to me, Audi to VW? But think this GTD will hold it's own in image stake and from driving perspective do I really care?! Going to be a great car to drive :)
Not Miss
- 3 Door Reason got my A3 in 3 Door is love the lines but in day to day use it is a royal pain and to have passengers who can just get in effortlessly is going to be so much easier for everyone though genuinely think this MK7 lines look good in 5 door form.
- S Line Suspension Love the handling it gives and on smooth roads it is a dream to drive in combination with Quattro but we all know a smooth road is a rarity these days and the new version 2 ACC will give me lots of flexibility in how would like to drive.
- Bi-Xenon Do not have the Halogen/LED in this A3 so the Bi-Xenon with all it's tricks in seeing around corners etc will be illuminating :)
- Colour Had Phantom and Brilliant Black in last 2 cars and it does really show dirt, dust and particularly bird mess! and as a working car is cleaned irregularly so even if the Pure White will still get pretty dirty it will not show it as much - Also was due a colour change and think the white shows MK7 lines really well and contrasts well with black trim.
- Bose Stereo Paid a lot for this and does sound great, when get chance to turn up loud and when listening to CD BUT the previous standard system was pretty good still and do carry passengers quite often and tend to listen to radio quite a bit also when travelling and all has made it something not going to miss.
- Setting up Sat Nav Have a decent SAT NAV, hate setting it up, the OCD in me hates the way it sits, the wires (even when attempt to hid I know they there!) So as expensive as is to offset my OCD to have integrated is going to be a definite plus.
- Folding Mirrors Like mirrors to fold but getting out of car when parked into traffic 'blind' as cannot fold them by fob is never fun!
- Manual I have always had manual but wife really does not like manual and rarely if ever drives mine and she needs to! so the DSG solves this excuse as an issue an excuse I will not miss :)
- Seats The alcantara seats are ok actually, but think going to love the additional lumbar and heated seats in general and in winter (many years of sport has me creak a bit and wife had prolapse few years ago)
Overall my A3 is a lot of fun still love it, but with the irritants removed as outlined above and the many additional extras this GTD gives that could not spec on Audi, then not going to miss much, only add!! :)
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Bumping as gave this some proper thought today (Slow Friday)
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You'll probably be able to get the mirrors to close with the fob with a bit of vag.com tinkering.
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You'll probably be able to get the mirrors to close with the fob with a bit of vag.com tinkering.
Wait a minute, what? The mirrors don't fold when you lock the doors using the fob? Seriously?
EDIT: My bad. You're talking about an A3 aren't you?
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Will miss:-
Not a lot to miss with the Scirocco apart from the looks, the GTD has everything else going for it.
4 seats. You'd be surprised how often 4 passengers want a lift instead of 3. When there are 5 of us we can't take my car so I can have a drink as someone else will be driving. :whistle:
Won't miss:-
3 door access when we have more than 1 passenger.
Rattly boot (it's better than it was but still more of a Fiat moment on the build).
Metal bonnet stay (is this supposed to be some kind of retro crap, VW?).
Huge front pillars obscuring vision when looking to get out of a junction.
Halogen headlights - mine are like a pair of candles.
"Automatic" headlights that are always on thanks to VW using dipped beam as driving lights instead of the sidelights.
Other than that the Roc has been great.
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Well, I'm probably the most mad on this thread at a guess? I'm going from a 670 bhp 6.0 Bi-turbo limo to a Golf GTI and I can't bloody wait! :laugh: I've wanted a GTI for ages and I fell in love with this one when I saw the prototype at the Paris motorshow. It was the star of the show for me. I'll probably miss the uber cruiser nature of my current car, but after driving a bog standard Mk7 I was very impressed with the ride. Personally, I can't wait to drop into those plaid seats. Just too cool. :whistle:
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Well, I'm probably the most mad on this thread at a guess? I'm going from a 670 bhp 6.0 Bi-turbo limo to a Golf GTI and I can't bloody wait! :laugh: I've wanted a GTI for ages and I fell in love with this one when I saw the prototype at the Paris motorshow. It was the star of the show for me. I'll probably miss the uber cruiser nature of my current car, but after driving a bog standard Mk7 I was very impressed with the ride. Personally, I can't wait to drop into those plaid seats. Just too cool. :whistle:
What the hell was that Largerlout? Even a GTI will feel like a push bike after driving that!
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A slightly tweaked S65 AMG.
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A slightly tweaked S65 AMG.
:shocked: Sheesh :shocked:
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Considering I moved from the Audi A3 S line Sport Back 150BHP I was ready to order for the GTD and mainly due to thinking I would miss the performance getting at present, then this video is an interesting look as it seems I would have not missed too much at all in reality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dletMoIGPg
But do I feel like made a hasty decision then? Well with the new frame and 184BHP driving the GTD then no, think I made a very good one still :)
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Well it was such a nice night tonight that I took the opportunity to go out and wash the car. It reminded me how much i'm going to miss those curves when the time comes to part company with her :cry: :cry:
However, it has also reconfirmed by decision to stay away from black this time as it is nightmare to keep clean. :angry: :angry:
A few pics of my girl
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(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/TTpic006.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/TTpic006.jpg.html)
(http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx40/CraigW_01/TTpic008.jpg) (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/CraigW_01/media/TTpic008.jpg.html)
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If it was just me to consider then could have had an S Line TT 1.8 TSi as do really like them and there is the evidence right there! It has been bad enough having a 3 Door but think asking passengers to fold down to 3ft high is maybe asking too much ;) - Think the car I have specced now is borne from experience of all niggles and annoyances had with others and my overall experience is going to be superb with it as they get removed.
My previous was Phantom Black, dusty all the time! and present in Brilliant Black just loves the dirt, and more so a bird mess magnet it seems! But not much looks better than black when given the full treatment :) But that rarely happens with me.