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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: sanderr2 on 03 June 2015, 14:17
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Hi all,
I'm keen to get a place in the queue for the newly announced R420 by putting down a deposit now. I know some people think that putting hard cash down for something that isn't yet available is mad but I think it's going to be the only way to try and avoid a ridiculous wait when the car enters production. It was a risk that worked out very well for me when I ordered my Nissan GTR ahead of production.
I just wondered whether there was a "good" dealership to use? i.e. is there a well organised dealership that has a process in place? Is there a larger dealership which will have a bigger allocation of vehicles (in the case of the GTR, Middlehurst up in the North East seemed to get a significant proportion of the first GTRs).
My local dealer (Twickenham) wanted £1,000 which I'm guessing is pretty standard?
Any advice and guidance would be very gratefully received.
Thanks!
Rob
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Hi Rob,
the Golf R420 hasnt been officially announced yet so dealership's shouldnt be taking deposits imo.
I have had my name down for the Golf R400/420 for quite sometime now and I am at the top of my dealerships list, didnt need to leave a deposit down as my dealership knows I am serious long-term VW customer. :smiley:
Your best bet is to find the closest dealership and get your name on a list, or perhaps another dealership if you are unable to get the first position on the first allocation of cars.
I have also added the Golf GTI Edition 40 to the dealerships list in case Volkswagen don't make the R420 in 5 door guise.
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2014GTI totally agree with your approach, I cannot seen these being discounted that much and I think long term relationship does help and is my primary route, my dealer also does not want any cash. I do however, have a couple of other avenues
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West London VW is my Dealership and Twickenham is closely allied to them by coming under the West London VW umbrella. They are both part of the Inchcape Group.
Quite honestly I am rather surprised by the £1k deposit they want. They really should not be requesting this especially for a car that is not in production. Plus, do you really want to be an early adopter? It would be more sensible to wait until the inevitable problems are ironed out and also avoid paying a sky high price as an early adopter.
Finally, to answer your question. They are as good as any VW Dealership, perhaps a bit better which is not saying much as an outright recommendation.
Have you considered RS3? It is beautifully appointed and meticulously made, but overpriced just as the R400 will surely be.
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My dealer has stated I will get their allocated first vehicle, they think these will be a limited run. Discount is unknown yet but I am confident I will get some. When released I just need to confirm spec.
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I wonder how much it will cost once properly specced.
An RS3 with decent options hits £50k and I don't think the R400 will be significantly cheaper. Hell, a Christmas Tree specced R is near £40k anyway.
£50k for an RS3 hatch? That's really crazy.
£50k for a Golf hatch? That's madness.
No thanks to both the above. I will look elsewhere.
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I wonder how much it will cost once properly specced.
An RS3 with decent options hits £50k and I don't think the R400 will be significantly cheaper. Hell, a Christmas Tree specced R is near £40k anyway.
£50k for an RS3 hatch? That's really crazy.
£50k for a Golf hatch? That's madness.
No thanks to both the above. I will look elsewhere.
BMW M2 is the other car to through in the mix
R400 will be best savoured by not going made on the spec sheet, keep it simple and pure I say
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I wonder how much it will cost once properly specced.
An RS3 with decent options hits £50k and I don't think the R400 will be significantly cheaper. Hell, a Christmas Tree specced R is near £40k anyway.
£50k for an RS3 hatch? That's really crazy.
£50k for a Golf hatch? That's madness.
No thanks to both the above. I will look elsewhere.
BMW M2 is the other car to through in the mix
R400 will be best savoured by not going made on the spec sheet, keep it simple and pure I say
Yes, M2 will be very nice.
And I also say, R400 with simple spec.
But who knows what will be available in 3 years that might be interesting.
For now, I really love the S3 Sportback in Misano Red and Sepang Blue.
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£500-£1000 initial deposit is standard practice really.
We took our first deposit today to secure our first allocation if it becomes 100% official. That deposit has 100% guaranteed the first available order slot for him. I for 1 hope they build it and only let each dealer order 1/2 maximum so it truly will be limited and therefor will retain exclusivity and huge demand.
Get your money down because it will be refundable if the price is insane however I would not expect any discount if production is limited.
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Have you considered RS3? It is beautifully appointed and meticulously made, but overpriced just as the R400 will surely be.
Good shout, the 5 cylinder engine gives it usp too.
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I wonder how much it will cost once properly specced.
An RS3 with decent options hits £50k and I don't think the R400 will be significantly cheaper. Hell, a Christmas Tree specced R is near £40k anyway.
£50k for an RS3 hatch? That's really crazy.
£50k for a Golf hatch? That's madness.
No thanks to both the above. I will look elsewhere.
I bet you won't need half as many options on the R400 as you'll need for a spartan RS3. It may still want £5k spent on it to be truly "loaded" though.
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I wonder how much it will cost once properly specced.
An RS3 with decent options hits £50k and I don't think the R400 will be significantly cheaper. Hell, a Christmas Tree specced R is near £40k anyway.
£50k for an RS3 hatch? That's really crazy.
£50k for a Golf hatch? That's madness.
No thanks to both the above. I will look elsewhere.
I bet you won't need half as many options on the R400 as you'll need for a spartan RS3. It may still want £5k spent on it to be truly "loaded" though.
I must admit I really like the Audi Sportbacks S3 and RS3. They look expensive, unlike the VW Golfs. If I was choosing now, I'd go Audi and not VW.
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am1W - I have gone down the S3 Sportback route. I lurked on here for months since deciding on a change from my SLK and a GTI PP or R was firmly on the cards until I looked a bit more closely at a colleague's S3 in the office car park. One thing led to another and I drove one last weekend and loved it. Wife is driving one tomorrow and if she gives it the thumbs up then I will start the proper negotiations.....oh and the Audi-Sport.Net forum is great - almost as good as this one :grin:
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am1W - I have gone down the S3 Sportback route. I lurked on here for months since deciding on a change from my SLK and a GTI PP or R was firmly on the cards until I looked a bit more closely at a colleague's S3 in the office car park. One thing led to another and I drove one last weekend and loved it. Wife is driving one tomorrow and if she gives it the thumbs up then I will start the proper negotiations.....oh and the Audi-Sport.Net forum is great - almost as good as this one :grin:
Thanks for the thumbs up re the S3 Sportback. I drove one 3 days ago and really loved it. Sitting inside it was a wonderful experience and driving one was even better. For me, it drives just as well as the R.
However, I am stuck with my R as I am on 3 year Business Lease. Even though I love my R which I think is a great car and enjoy driving it, it is not quite the right car for me. It just feels a bit 'cheap' in comparison to the Audi. Lots on here will be up in arms for me saying this. But, hey, this is a free country and one has a right to express one's opinion, however unpopular it might be.
ETTO.
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Thanks for the thumbs up re the S3 Sportback. I drove one 3 days ago and really loved it. Sitting inside it was a wonderful experience and driving one was even better. For me, it drives just as well as the R.
However, I am stuck with my R as I am on 3 year Business Lease. Even though I love my R which I think is a great car and enjoy driving it, it is not quite the right car for me. It just feels a bit 'cheap' in comparison to the Audi. Lots on here will be up in arms for me saying this. But, hey, this is a free country and one has a right to express one's opinion, however unpopular it might be.
ETTO.
Asker, why would anyone be up in arms? I don't think anyone on here is such an out and out fanboy as to wish to see someone stuck with a car they don't like. Jimble has been through quite a few models of late in this quest and will hopefully be soon back in the car he feels is right for him - a GTI.
It's a great shame your R isn't quite living up to your expectations, and perhaps the build quality is not of a standard you have been accustomed to with previous cars. It is still early days in your ownership though.
Is there any way you could make an early swap without incurring significant fininacial penalty?
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Asker: You'll just have to slum it with us peasants that didn't spend an extra 2% buying an S3. :grin:
Audi Salespeople really put me off - I haven't met one that wasn't a complete slime-bag.
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Know what you mean MH - I have heard some pretty off-putting stories about Audi dealerships north of the border. My limited experience so far (arranging a test drive) has been just about OK (apart from the sales guy assigned to do my test drive being involved in a new car handover when I arrived at the appoined time -go figure). We shall see.
As for 2% more than the R, I reckon that's about right. I'll be happy with 10% discount, which I know from speaking to one or two brokers is do-able. Asker - would 10% off ease your financial pain if you made the early swap as Booth suggests ??
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I have to think long and hard about what my next step is going to be. At present I am going to be away a lot of the time and don't really have the time or energy to start a process which might or might not allow me to change the car.
I love the way the R drives, love its looks and enjoy its many qualities, but it feels 'cheap' (and it is in my case due to the low monthlies) when I compare it to an S3 Sportback and to our BMW. A 2% increase in price is nothing and easily doable over an R, but the deal I got makes the difference between a reasonably specced S3 Sportback and my R much, much more: a difference of over £112 incl VAT per month, a 34% increase! It is for this reason I might just bite the bullet and stick with a brilliant but slightly flawed car which I got at a very low monthly cost and this tempers some of my irritations with the car. Perhaps I am expecting too much and am excessively fussy.
Anyway, worse things happen at sea!
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I could've gone for the S3 when things were starting to get strung out on the R order (the GFV changes that made me decide for sure that I was going to pay for the R outright rather than see payments increase by £97 a month, the BW jumping 14 weeks around the time I added Prets), but I couldn't forgive the estate-like external looks enough to buy it for the interior. The dearth of standard equipment put me off too - I would have to spend close to £3k on it to get the stuff that is standard on the MK7 that I wouldn't be without.
Anything about the Audi that feels more premium is just a very thin veneer. If VW were allowed the free rein to spend another £100 on the car and charge £300 more accordingly, you would have your better door cards and half leather. Audi quality over and above the other VAG marques is all about perception (but they're good at it). Fancier door cards, slightly softer plastics, nicer switches (above Skoda and Seat), and half leather seats don't cost a lot, but add a lot to the RRP. Built to the same techniques and QA standards, painted the same, the functional parts being the same under the veneer. Surely the negligible price difference between the R and the S3 is the giveaway that they're built to the same standard. I'm sure there'll be a well hidden Achilles heel somewhere on the S3 that makes you think they cut a corner and ask yourself why the hell did they do it?
Just amazed that for the one area of the wing highlighted, VW didn't do something to make it more rigid - a clip or block behind it perhaps, for the sake of 2g weight and a couple of Euro cents per car, they probably thought no-one would notice, and if I hadn't been sealing the car and requiring some elbow grease to get the residue off then I wouldn't have noticed either.
From my experience, most Audi salesmen don't deserve your money.
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The Audi RS3 hasn't received the best of write ups so far. Apparantly still very understeer happy and quite dull to drive. I was all up for buying one until the reviews came out for it.
Saying the R420 is overpriced is also a bit silly. Yes it's expensive but for the car you get it's never going to be cheap. It all depends where you look at it from. When you think it's effectively still a Volkswagen Golf then £40,000 does seem expensive for a family hatchback but when you think it's a car capable of completing the 0-62MPH sprint in just 3.9 seconds, a top speed of 174MPH and still plenty of room for 5 passengers and a boot then i'd say that it's actually pretty good value for money.
People will say that you can buy other sports cars for that kind of money but anyone who drives will know that running costs make a big difference still. You might say "you don't buy a car like this to worry about the running costs" but trust me you still do and should. Come back with that comment after owning a Nissan GTR and having to service it every 6 months and almost continuously having to replace the huge, expensive tyres that it burns through so quickly. No matter which way you look at it you're still going to notice that cost. Unless you're a millionaire in which case you probably have a Mclarren P1 or Bugatti Veyron.
Find me another car you can buy for less than £40,000 brand new that's capable of a sub 4 second sprint, with reasonable insurance, road tax and mpg and then we can call the R420 overpriced. Until then I don't think we can.
If you still think it's overpriced then that's fine. Noone's forcing you to buy one. There are plenty of other options. But I can tell you now that the order books will be full.
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I have to think long and hard about what my next step is going to be. At present I am going to be away a lot of the time and don't really have the time or energy to start a process which might or might not allow me to change the car.
I love the way the R drives, love its looks and enjoy its many qualities, but it feels 'cheap' (and it is in my case due to the low monthlies) when I compare it to an S3 Sportback and to our BMW. A 2% increase in price is nothing and easily doable over an R, but the deal I got makes the difference between a reasonably specced S3 Sportback and my R much, much more: a difference of over £112 incl VAT per month, a 34% increase! It is for this reason I might just bite the bullet and stick with a brilliant but slightly flawed car which I got at a very low monthly cost and this tempers some of my irritations with the car. Perhaps I am expecting too much and am excessively fussy.
Anyway, worse things happen at sea!
Don't take this the wrong way Asker, but maybe constantly comparing it to other Audi's, BMW's etc is not helping matters, or you bonding with the R as such.
It's obvious that cars are an important part of your life (as for many on here) and it's natural to look at the competition. There's a certain enjoyment in looking at, and test driving a host of other cars perhaps with one eye on what might be your next one, but it may be detracting from your enjoymennt of the R which you've only had a few months.
That said, if you really don't think it's the car for you and you can't live with it for 3 years, then maybe you should look at what's involved in changing.
I find that once I've made a decision about a car, (after a period of intense research), I tend to switch myself off from the temptations of the alternatives, until I'm getting towards changeover time. Makes life easier and can enjoy the car for a few years without looking over my shoulder wondering 'if only...'.
But everybody is different :smiley:
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Oh and speaking of the R420 it has been spied being tested on the nurburgring.
http://youtu.be/5I65wSE_tm4
A lot of people are commenting that it sounds like a 5 cylinder but I think they're just being optimistic unless VW dropped the RS3 engine into the car which I doubt.
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MH:
I much prefer the detailing on the Audi S3 Sportback. Nothing you say will convince me that the Golf is equivalent in fit and finish to the Audi. The S3 Sportback is a handsome car to these eyes. So we will always differ on this subject.
My R is a great car to drive and I cannot fault it in this respect. It does not rattle, rides and handles beautifully, the engine and DSG gear box are epic and all the other specced bells and whistles work seamlessly.
My one major gripe is the way the front passenger door hangs. It has really upset and annoyed me.There seems to be an obvious manufacturing/pressing/fitting fault with my car with this panel. There are some other issues but these can be easily sorted.
I now have to convince the Warranty Manger that I will not take NO for an answer. Unfortunately, he does not have an eye for detail. Nice enough chap but a bit inflexible. I will probably have to go over his head to get warranty work sanctioned.
There are other irritations like the cheap looking black rubber window strips and the paintwork showing on the door frames on the inside. These do not make the R a bad car, just a car with obvious cost cutting with a distinct lack of detailing on a car which sells at quite a high price. There are other fit issues on the inside that I have come across on most Golfs, but I won't bore you with these. I was aware of these foibles of variable build quality when I selected the R. So I went into the ownership experience with my eyes wide open. More fool me!
Let's see how things transpire in the next few days.
Booth11
Yes, I do like cars and love trying out different ones, time permitting. It's good clean fun.
I not only compare cars when there is a problem with my own, but because I am an insatiable car voyeur. I don't think there is anything amiss in that.
I must admit that moving from BMW to VW was not taken lightly. I had the pre-monition that I might end up slightly dissatisfied. Only slightly, mind you. I will also admit that the main reason I got the R was because it was a cheap lease. Perhaps I should accept that I have a very good cheap fast car with a few issues, accept these as a given and just enjoy the car.
Once I get over my initial disappointment on fit/finish and detailing, I think I will be able to live quite happily with the R for 3 years. I will attempt to provide it with just enough care but not TLC so that it does not look too shabby, drive it like I stole it and accept it for what it essentially is: just a VW and a Golf at that.
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Asker, why would anyone be up in arms? I don't think anyone on here is such an out and out fanboy as to wish to see someone stuck with a car they don't like.
Because, unfortunately, there are a few insidious characters around.
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Once I get over my initial disappointment on fit/finish and detailing, I think I will be able to live quite happily with the R for 3 years.
I hope you do get the door and other issues sorted to your satisfaction and can enjoy it for the next 3 years.
Because, unfortunately, there are a few insidious characters around.
I'm sorry you think I am one of them.
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Once I get over my initial disappointment on fit/finish and detailing, I think I will be able to live quite happily with the R for 3 years.
I hope you do get the door and other issues sorted to your satisfaction and can enjoy it for the next 3 years.
I doubt it, but I'll have a go.
Because, unfortunately, there are a few insidious characters around.
I'm sorry you think I am one of them.
Only sometimes. :laugh: :kiss:
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As for 2% more than the R, I reckon that's about right. I'll be happy with 10% discount, which I know from speaking to one or two brokers is do-able. Asker - would 10% off ease your financial pain if you made the early swap as Booth suggests ??
Good luck with Braehead Audi. They just looked down their noses at me when I was looking at cars.
In fact their salesman had a look around and then whispered, try online as I should get it a lot cheaper there.
I was ready to buy and they just didn't want to know.
Hamilton Audi is opening in the next week or so. They might have some opening offers.
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Thanks P3asa. I didn't know about Hamilton Audi opening - might pay them a visit. I have no expectation of getting anywhere close to 10% off from Braehead from what I have been told. Pretty sure I will go with a broker. Spoke to Jonathan Lawless at Carfile yesterday - they have been around for a long time and he (and his dad who started it) know their stuff.
I'll butt out now as I am in danger of being told to P*ss off to Audi Sport forum (gently I'm sure!)....
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Asker, why would anyone be up in arms? I don't think anyone on here is such an out and out fanboy as to wish to see someone stuck with a car they don't like.
Because, unfortunately, there are a few insidious characters around.
I believe he's talking about me :grin: Just because I don't agree with 90% of what you say am1w doesn't make me insidious. You're more than entitled to your opinion, in fact you provide me with great amusement with my morning cup of tea - the latest one being the R is cheap compared to the S3 - brilliant! :grin: Having been in both I'm struggle to understand what you mean, but like I say you're more than entitled to your opinoin, and that's what makes this forum such a great place :smiley:
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I believe he's talking about me :grin:
That goes without saying :grin:
Insidious is quite an unpleasant term.
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I believe he's talking about me :grin:
That goes without saying :grin:
Insidious is quite an unpleasant term.
I've been called worse :grin:
Still, I haven't got time today to read his comments - I've got to go and change my Cadiz for Prets as they really don't suit my car :rolleyes:
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I believe he's talking about me :grin:
That goes without saying :grin:
Insidious is quite an unpleasant term.
I've been called worse :grin:
Still, I haven't got time today to read his comments - I've got to go and change my Cadiz for Prets as they really don't suit my car :rolleyes:
Much as it pains me to say this, you are not insidious. Blatantly vicious yes, insidious definitely NO.
BTW, you are right to change to Prets on your Lapiz. Cadiz don't suit it. MH is right regarding this combo. Enjoy your new wheels Mr Swan Vestes. :smiley:
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That goes without saying :grin:
Insidious is quite an unpleasant term.
I've been called worse :grin:
Still, I haven't got time today to read his comments - I've got to go and change my Cadiz for Prets as they really don't suit my car :rolleyes:
Much as it pains me to say this, you are not insidious. Blatantly vicious yes, insidious definitely NO.
So just me that's insidious then am1w. Cheers! :tongue:
I've NEVER been called worse :cry: :laugh:
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That goes without saying :grin:
Insidious is quite an unpleasant term.
I've been called worse :grin:
Still, I haven't got time today to read his comments - I've got to go and change my Cadiz for Prets as they really don't suit my car :rolleyes:
Much as it pains me to say this, you are not insidious. Blatantly vicious yes, insidious definitely NO.
So just me that's insidious then am1w. Cheers! :tongue:
I've NEVER been called worse :cry: :laugh:
You are a lovely beguiling lady (a compliment) in my eyes and I am a grumpy git :cry: in yours or as Mr Swan Vestes would say an old man who is out of touch :sad:.
So let's leave it at that.
Q.E.D.
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I believe he's talking about me :grin:
That goes without saying :grin:
Insidious is quite an unpleasant term.
I've been called worse :grin:
Still, I haven't got time today to read his comments - I've got to go and change my Cadiz for Prets as they really don't suit my car :rolleyes:
Much as it pains me to say this, you are not insidious. Blatantly vicious yes, insidious definitely NO.
BTW, you are right to change to Prets on your Lapiz. Cadiz don't suit it. MH is right regarding this combo. Enjoy your new wheels Mr Swan Vestes. :smiley:
Yes, cause there's so much evidence of me being blatently vicious :grin: Really, you need to get out more my friend. Or reread a lot of your own posts, and then think again.
I'm not really changing my wheels :grin: Why would I - the Cadiz work better with the Lapiz Blue than the Prets IMO. Otherwise I would have got Prets (which I'd originally ordered on my Reflex Silver R).
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All we have here is opinion when it comes to personal preference on colours/wheels/options. I loved TR on a GTD, slightly less so on a GTI, and not at all on an R. Front end on, the R looks a lot like an SE or a GT, so (IMO) needs a colour you don't see so often on a low-mid end Golf (which puts the silvers/greys and TR out of contention for me) if you want it to stand out a little (some won't want to stand out at all).
Really keeping an eye out for minor potholes, more so than I ever did in the GTD - I could put it down to babying the car because it is new, but you do feels the sags in the road a bit more on 19s.
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I believe he's talking about me :grin:
That goes without saying :grin:
Insidious is quite an unpleasant term.
I've been called worse :grin:
Still, I haven't got time today to read his comments - I've got to go and change my Cadiz for Prets as they really don't suit my car :rolleyes:
Much as it pains me to say this, you are not insidious. Blatantly vicious yes, insidious definitely NO.
BTW, you are right to change to Prets on your Lapiz. Cadiz don't suit it. MH is right regarding this combo. Enjoy your new wheels Mr Swan Vestes. :smiley:
Yes, cause there's so much evidence of me being blatently vicious :grin: Really, you need to get out more my friend. Or reread a lot of your own posts, and then think again.
I'm not really changing my wheels :grin: Why would I - the Cadiz work better with the Lapiz Blue than the Prets IMO. Otherwise I would have got Prets (which I'd originally ordered on my Reflex Silver R).
Oops! Scotties! My bad. Should have paid more attention to your smiley.
Need to get out more often, I agree. But can't due to damaged foot caused by kicking my R.
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Really keeping an eye out for minor potholes, more so than I ever did in the GTD - I could put it down to babying the car because it is new, but you do feels the sags in the road a bit more on 19s.
Lapiz R Manual with Prets at the club (for physio) this morning. Got talking to the owner over a coffee. He feels the ride is a bit hard and wishes he had DCC. Suggested he check tyre pressures which he had not done since he got the car 2 months ago.
Glad I got DSG. Would not have been able to use the clutch due to damaged left foot.
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But can't due to damaged foot caused by kicking my R.
Asker, maybe if you kick it hard enough it might remedy the wonky door. Forget minuscule micro adjustments, sometimes brute force is the only way :laugh: Any further progress on getting it sorted?
He feels the ride is a bit hard and wishes he had DCC.
He right I'm afraid. I really believe if you are going to go 19's on UK roads, DCC is preferable. That's why I specced it on my current and future car.
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But can't due to damaged foot caused by kicking my R.
Asker, maybe if you kick it hard enough it might remedy the wonky door. Forget minuscule micro adjustments, sometimes brute force is the only way :laugh: Any further progress on getting it sorted?
I did and damaged my foot! No, that's a lie. Compressed my big toe which has caused Plantar Faciitis (arch pain). It is much better today after brilliant Physio and Massage. She said I had really pretty feet. I suggested she pay a visit to an optician.
I think it is the hinge which might need changing. Really don't want to go there. Having one more go at the door on Monday at Auto Audio and then a possible altercation with the inflexible Warranty Manager.
At least I don't have to have the headlights changed like another customer of theirs. £2000 cost. First they said they would under warranty, then 3 hours later they changed their minds! Customer (female) is fuming.
He feels the ride is a bit hard and wishes he had DCC.
He's right I'm afraid. I really believe if you are going to go 19's on UK roads, DCC is preferable. That's why I specced it on my current and future car.
For me DCC is also essential with 18" wheels. Roads are a sodding nightmare. 3rd world tarmac. Great to check suspension problems and rattles and creaks.
And, I have a creak now. The passenger door trim which lights up is creaking. That's yet another discussion with the Warranty Manager. Mind you, it only happens sometimes and is dependent on road surface, obviously. Race mode is a no, no for this particular creak. Gave it a good bang (with my hand) (that should please you!) and it seems to have cured it for now.
^ Responses in Blue but not Lapiz Blue! :laugh:
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^ Responses in Blue but not Lapiz Blue! :laugh:
You know I prefer responses in Deep Black Pearl :kiss:
What's the problem with the lady's R headlights? Actually I saw mention of this whilst I was anonymously trawling the R Forum as is my custom from time to time :laugh:
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^ Responses in Blue but not Lapiz Blue! :laugh:
You know I prefer responses in Deep Black Pearl :kiss:
What's the problem with the lady's R headlights? Actually I saw mention of this whilst I was anonymously trawling the R Forum as is my custom from time to time :laugh:
She has not given any details. She was fuming and was going to start a new thread but was too angry to do so. She takes no prisoners. West London VW Service Dept are in for a rough ride.
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I've just read that VW will be showcasing the R400 at this year's Goodwood Festival of Speed - given I'm going, that is a right touch! I'll take lots of pics :smiley:
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I've just read that VW will be showcasing the R400 at this year's Goodwood Festival of Speed - given I'm going, that is a right touch! I'll take lots of pics :smiley:
Yes, it's on here :rolleyes: :laugh: Look forward to the pics.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=274403.msg2509730;boardseen#new
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Ha ha Booth, I didn't see that post!!