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Title: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: Exonian on 09 March 2021, 12:57
First proper wash after winter for my runabout car (which has never been polished or waxed in the four and a half years I’ve owned it) and now I can see the paint in all its spotty glory.
The wash mitt was badly dragging over the upper panels and the lower panels have more tar spots than a polka dot skirt has dots.

Having been a long time user of Tardis and Iron-X a delve into my cleaning stuff box revealed the Tardis has mostly evaporated and the Iron-X is almost empty too.

So, being as these are fairly old products now and will need replenishing anyway, does anyone have any preferred alternatives I could try?
Nothing too aggressive as I don’t want to wreck my driveway!
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: SRGTD on 09 March 2021, 13:32
I use either Valet Pro Dragon’s Breath or Car Pro Iron X for iron fallout removal. Both stink to high heaven but they are pretty effective.

I’m currently using Valet Pro Citrus Tar and Glue Remover to get rid of tar spots. It smells of oranges (makes up for the smell of the iron fallout removal products) and removes tar spots without too much effort. I find that by dabbing some on the affected area and leaving it to soften the tar spots for a few minutes, followed by a wipe off with a soft microfibre usually does the job, although it might be necessary to repeat on really stubborn tar spots.

Best to apply a couple of coats of wax or sealant afterwards to add some protection.
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: Watts on 09 March 2021, 14:13
I use Carpro too, I bought a new formula that they claimed was less offensive on the olfactory system, but they lied. Works well though. Might be worth getting a clay mitt too, my Wo-Wo one has been great and is really quick to use, makes a big difference for minimal effort.
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: Exonian on 09 March 2021, 14:22
Thanks SR :afro:
I may well give Valet Pro products a visit, it’s good to have a change now and again.

Polish and wax that old thing? Nah, not gonna happen!   :grin:
It’s gets a regular bath using CG Citrus Wash & Gloss (as recommended some years ago by our detailing mod) which to be fair does give it a semi-decent lustre on its own.
Having said that my OH does keep threatening to buy me a DA polisher for my birthday or Xmas to help stop me moaning about the state of my paint, but I’d rather it be a retirement present so I’d actually have time to spend properly on the car! Only another 15 - 20 years to go! 

Thanks also Watts, I do have a clay mitt somewhere. Last I remember some QD stuff leaked all over its packaging in my garage   :rolleyes:
I can’t really be bothered to spend time claying these days, I’ve become a “wash ‘n’ go” kind of guy.
Maybe one day...
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: Brocky_ on 24 March 2021, 15:57
Tardis & Iron-X for me.  Don't need it just yet but I picked some up for when I do.
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: Foxy367 on 30 June 2021, 13:29
How would I know when to use it? My wifes car is twelve months old and I want to wax it not sure whether I should use a fall out remover first?
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: Watts on 30 June 2021, 14:09
Tar spots are small but easily spotted, they just won't wash off. For iron fallout, when washed put your hand in a sandwich bag and gently stroke over the paintwork, you'll feel it as a bit rough, not glassy smooth. If your wife's car has never been detailed it is quite possible it'll be covered in iron fallout. When I did my current car, I was expecting a good few runs of purple (when the remover reacts to iron) but pretty much the whole car went purple!
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 January 2022, 00:28
Post revival so apologies. My alloys are coated in gtechniq c5 but I've still got loads of fallout even after doing them twice with gtechnic fallout remover.  Any suggestions on what else to use to get the fallout off? Would a claybar work or am I better off trying a different fallout remover?
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: VW_Golf_nut on 16 January 2022, 15:42
Post revival so apologies. My alloys are coated in gtechniq c5 but I've still got loads of fallout even after doing them twice with gtechnic fallout remover.  Any suggestions on what else to use to get the fallout off? Would a claybar work or am I better off trying a different fallout remover?

Bilt Hamber Korrosol
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 January 2022, 16:59
Is it that much better than the gtechniq stuff?
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: VW_Golf_nut on 16 January 2022, 17:51
I'd say yes, used on some caked wheels of my UP GTI on Friday. Need to let it work, may take a few sessions.
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 January 2022, 22:51
I'd say yes, used on some caked wheels of my UP GTI on Friday. Need to let it work, may take a few sessions.
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Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: Callum_49 on 02 March 2022, 10:23
Post revival so apologies. My alloys are coated in gtechniq c5 but I've still got loads of fallout even after doing them twice with gtechnic fallout remover.  Any suggestions on what else to use to get the fallout off? Would a claybar work or am I better off trying a different fallout remover?

A clay bar will work to get the embedded fallout off, but I'd say you shouldn't need to rely on it if you have a good quality fallout remover. I use Duel Autocare iron fallout remover.
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: VW_Golf_nut on 02 March 2022, 10:26
Bilt Hamber Korrosol, the best I have used in my experience.
Title: Re: Tar and Fall-Out Removers
Post by: Pete-r36 on 02 March 2022, 21:52
Not tried many but iron x always reliable if toy can stand the smell!