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Title: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Movi on 21 May 2013, 20:03
In anticipation of forthcoming GTD Reviews - Please Post your links here........

Doc / Jimble - Can you please make this a sticky, Cheers.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: The Doc on 21 May 2013, 20:12
Done  :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 06 June 2013, 11:14
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/golf/first-drives/volkswagen-golf-gtd-mk7-first-drive-review

http://cars.uk.msn.com/reviews/volkswagen-golf-gtd-mk7-review-2013-onwards#scpshrtu
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 06 June 2013, 11:41
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/289795/2013_volkswagen_golf_gtd_review.html
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 06 June 2013, 11:47
http://www.completecar.ie/testdrives/article/Volkswagen/Golf/Golf_GTD/598/2638
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 06 June 2013, 12:15
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/64271/new-volkswagen-golf-gtd
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 06 June 2013, 12:53
http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/2013-volkswagen-golf-gtd-review/265972 (http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/2013-volkswagen-golf-gtd-review/265972)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 06 June 2013, 12:57
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/advice/news/2013/june/volkswagen-golf-hatchback-13-on-20-tdi-gtd-5d-road-test/
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 06 June 2013, 13:18
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/VW-Golf-GTD-2013-CAR-review/
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 06 June 2013, 18:01
Top Gear

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/First-drive-golf-gtd-2013-06-06?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=ongoing
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 06 June 2013, 20:03
http://recombu.com/cars/reviews/volkswagen-golf-gtd-hatchback-review
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 07 June 2013, 19:41
Hows your German? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShtuP8yj3ok
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Movi on 07 June 2013, 20:21
das ist gut ya!

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-golf-vii-gtd-fahrbericht-4234915.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dauto%2Bbild%2Bgtd%26biw%3D1279%26bih%3D605 (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-golf-vii-gtd-fahrbericht-4234915.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dauto%2Bbild%2Bgtd%26biw%3D1279%26bih%3D605)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2GsnUiBvdM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2GsnUiBvdM)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 June 2013, 07:36
das ist gut ya!

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-golf-vii-gtd-fahrbericht-4234915.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dauto%2Bbild%2Bgtd%26biw%3D1279%26bih%3D605 (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-golf-vii-gtd-fahrbericht-4234915.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dauto%2Bbild%2Bgtd%26biw%3D1279%26bih%3D605)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2GsnUiBvdM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2GsnUiBvdM)

Gotta love those translations "he wanders off quickly", "He runs his Under the hood lies a two-liter diesel". Looks amazing in Tornado Red.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Movi on 08 June 2013, 09:48
das ist gut ya!

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-golf-vii-gtd-fahrbericht-4234915.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dauto%2Bbild%2Bgtd%26biw%3D1279%26bih%3D605 (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.autobild.de/artikel/vw-golf-vii-gtd-fahrbericht-4234915.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dauto%2Bbild%2Bgtd%26biw%3D1279%26bih%3D605)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2GsnUiBvdM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2GsnUiBvdM)

Gotta love those translations "he wanders off quickly", "He runs his Under the hood lies a two-liter diesel". Looks amazing in Tornado Red.

Agree looks fab with the back drop of the lake. i'm pretty sure its near Garmisch-Partenkirchen, lake Eibsee beautiful place.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: alco on 09 June 2013, 15:50
http://www.rushlane.com/volkswagen-golf-gtd-tdi-goes-100-km-in-4-2l-fuel-1280977.html
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 10 June 2013, 00:29
http://youtu.be/7j7tXX3VXyo (http://youtu.be/7j7tXX3VXyo)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 10 June 2013, 21:33
Hi, just read this on topgear - thought you might want to read it re the 181 Diesel

http://www.topgear.com/uk/seat/leon/road-test/fr-tdi-driven
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 12 June 2013, 10:57
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/volkswagen/volkswagen-golf-gtd-2013-road-test/ (http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/volkswagen/volkswagen-golf-gtd-2013-road-test/)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 June 2013, 11:06
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/volkswagen/volkswagen-golf-gtd-2013-road-test/ (http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/volkswagen/volkswagen-golf-gtd-2013-road-test/)
Its just a shame these reviews come out and they are factually wrong. GTD gets 18" wheels as standard and no ones entirely sure if the soundaktor is standard in the uk.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 12 June 2013, 12:04
Think it just demonstrates laziness and complacency as if it was me doing such a job I would realise there are people out here who will have a deep interest and would do all the necessary research for UK market before putting my name to an article - to generalise, particularly when taken from other sources and provide information as fact due to not taken the time to establish truth completely devalues the review and many you read unfortunately fall into that category.

You can readily tell a review where someone has a real passion for cars by depth of their comments and has genuinely driven the car.

Prefer video ones as at least I know it is a personal opinion from someone actually driving the car!

Looking forward most to reviews of those from here and my own! ;)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 12 June 2013, 18:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVnODGPLhYo
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 12 June 2013, 20:43

http://www.carwow.co.uk/car-reviews/Volkswagen/Golf-GTD
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 12 June 2013, 22:08
That's the fourth or fifth review that has said the gtd comes with 17“wheels. Ffs get the facts correct before writing a review!!  :grin:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 06:04
That's the fourth or fifth review that has said the gtd comes with 17“wheels. Ffs get the facts correct before writing a review!!  :grin:

If I made this level of mistake in my work it would be a serious ticking off...

They also keep claiming sat Nav is standard.  Morons. :whistle:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 13 June 2013, 19:39
Thought the 'sport and sound' was an internal speaker gadget? and does not effect the exterior sound from exhaust? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6bl-oRfY8w

Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 14 June 2013, 12:24
http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/motoring/top-stories/volkswagen-golf-gtd-a-gti-for-grown-ups-1-2966589 (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/motoring/top-stories/volkswagen-golf-gtd-a-gti-for-grown-ups-1-2966589)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 13:29
http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/motoring/top-stories/volkswagen-golf-gtd-a-gti-for-grown-ups-1-2966589 (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/motoring/top-stories/volkswagen-golf-gtd-a-gti-for-grown-ups-1-2966589)

Another "review" done by someone who's just thumbed through the brochure and not even sat behind the wheel of a GTD yet. Lazy journalism with no real experience basis. They can't even be bothered to put up a non VW photo.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: GTD Paul on 14 June 2013, 14:50
I wonder how long before we see a decent review of one been really pushed around a track  :laugh:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 June 2013, 16:11
I wonder how long before we see a decent review of one been really pushed around a track  :laugh:

My guess would be when one of us puts our own car on a track and then does a little write up. :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: JoeGTI on 14 June 2013, 16:19
VW Ireland's review
http://blog.volkswagen.ie/golf-gtd-coming-to-ireland-in-august/
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Movi on 14 June 2013, 16:59
I wonder how long before we see a decent review of one been really pushed around a track  :laugh:

My guess would be when one of us puts our own car on a track and then does a little write up. :wink:

So about 3 months for a GTD then!  :whistle:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 14 June 2013, 18:50
http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/motoring/top-stories/volkswagen-golf-gtd-a-gti-for-grown-ups-1-2966589 (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/motoring/top-stories/volkswagen-golf-gtd-a-gti-for-grown-ups-1-2966589)

I'd say this is the most positive review to date.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Andy_cs on 14 June 2013, 23:09
In summary "The Golf GTD’s appeal operates at a higher cerebral level, and rewards drivers who recognise that you don’t need to mash the throttle to maintain a rapid pace and put a smile on your face. In other words, the GTD is a GTI for grown-ups"
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 15 June 2013, 11:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lheco1G5zT0&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLgtCst5VTNeM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lheco1G5zT0&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLgtCst5VTNeM)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 15 June 2013, 17:51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lheco1G5zT0&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLgtCst5VTNeM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lheco1G5zT0&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLgtCst5VTNeM)

I quite like that colour.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 17 June 2013, 19:36
http://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/motors/reviews/2013/0617/457129-vw-golf-gtd/ (http://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/motors/reviews/2013/0617/457129-vw-golf-gtd/)

It seems such a naïve trap for a journalist to instantly compare the GTD to GTI, they are such lame reads.

If someone just wanted performance there is no choice to make, it is GTI all the way!! so I would like to see the GTD compared to it's direct competition from the other brands as that would be far more interesting to me opposed to a review where it is basically the same car and where one then has a huge advantage for them to run the GTD down on - Given the Golf is car of the year and GTI has had such rave reviews and is hot hatch of choice then the GTD reviewed against it's competitors just makes so much more sense and would you imagine be standout also :)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 June 2013, 20:10
Stopped reading when he said it cost more than the gti and only had 17” alloys. Maybe in Ireland but not here so pointless review.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 17 June 2013, 21:20
Posted this yesterday.

Here is the list the GTD should be judged against: (NOT THE GTI !!!!!)

BMW 120d M Sport 181 bhp
Merc A220 AMG Sport 167 bhp
Alfa JTDM Veloce 167 bhp
Mini Cooper SD 140 bhp
Vauxhall GTC Coupe CDTi bi-turbo 192 bhp
Ford Focus TDCi 163 bhp
Seat Leon FR 184 bhp
Audi A3 2.0 TDI 184 bhp (when it comes out)

If I've missed any feel free to add.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 June 2013, 21:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lheco1G5zT0&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLgtCst5VTNeM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lheco1G5zT0&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLgtCst5VTNeM)

I quite like that colour.

The interior of that car is going to be covered in spittle, no wonder they speak Flemish as well as dutch.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 17 June 2013, 22:55
http://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/motors/reviews/2013/0617/457129-vw-golf-gtd/ (http://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/motors/reviews/2013/0617/457129-vw-golf-gtd/)

It seems such a naïve trap for a journalist to instantly compare the GTD to GTI, they are such lame reads.

If someone just wanted performance there is no choice to make, it is GTI all the way!! so I would like to see the GTD compared to it's direct competition from the other brands as that would be far more interesting to me opposed to a review where it is basically the same car and where one then has a huge advantage for them to run the GTD down on - Given the Golf is car of the year and GTI has had such rave reviews and is hot hatch of choice then the GTD reviewed against it's competitors just makes so much more sense and would you imagine be standout also :)

Its probably more of a fair comparison for the Irish market because of the GTD being 2000 euro dearer than the GTI. This really means that you would need to be doing a lot more miles to justify it over the GTI. In that sense I can see why it looks less of a buy against the GTI
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: RikWebb on 18 June 2013, 00:07
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://ww.auto.cz/volkswagen-golf-gard-provence-joden-dojmy-75089

Funny even translated - but at least they have good pictures that are not the stock VW ones
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 18 June 2013, 06:43
I haven't seen this one before

http://life.nationalpost.com/2013/06/17/2014-volkswagen-golf-gtd-review/
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 18 June 2013, 07:55
The GTD actually costs more in most Euro markets, maybe because they know that with significantly cheaper diesel than petrol in most European countries (except the UK) people will still pay it. Another example of VW charging what they can get away with without affecting sales.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 18 June 2013, 18:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrwhZn2yC0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrwhZn2yC0s) German dealer video, looking good :)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: CraigW on 18 June 2013, 18:51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrwhZn2yC0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrwhZn2yC0s) German dealer video, looking good :)

You talking about the car or the fit bird?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 18 June 2013, 18:58
Next you be telling me that she is not a standard option?!  :wink: Think answer is both  :smiley:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/autovisie/autovisie_nieuws/volkswagen/21647386/__Eerste_testnotities__Volkswagen_Golf_GTD__.html (http://www.telegraaf.nl/autovisie/autovisie_nieuws/volkswagen/21647386/__Eerste_testnotities__Volkswagen_Golf_GTD__.html)

A photo here of my actual car a 5 door GTD in white :) looks great too !!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 19 June 2013, 16:26
I think this review is rubbish, but ill post it anyway

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/volkswagen-s-diesel-take-on-the-golf-gti-lacks-the-spark-you-d-expect-1.1433774
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 19 June 2013, 16:36
I think this review is rubbish, but ill post it anyway

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/volkswagen-s-diesel-take-on-the-golf-gti-lacks-the-spark-you-d-expect-1.1433774

Quote
GTDi is not going to feature on any fleet I can think of

He doesn't think too well then does he?  Also its called a GTD not a GTDi...  :rolleyes:

It only gets worse:
Quote
The engine is the bigger but standard performance 2.0 litre unit that features across the Volkswagen group range

:huh: I hope he means that Seat get it as well, because it reads like he thinks you can get the same engine in a TDI Golf...?

Best yet:
Quote
However, the problem with the diesel version of the GTi is a simple one. It suffers too much from direct comparison with the petrol version

Oh, well thanks for not perpetuating that problem then! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: benjyyy on 19 June 2013, 17:04
This may be a stupid question but what exactly do reviewers mean when they talk about 'feedback'. Is this something I should want from my car?!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 19 June 2013, 18:34
Did the reviewer even drive the car? They mention a "brief drive" but don't divulge any details of it, just seems another amble through the brochure specification to determine the figure comparisons and say that tiny figurative diferences between GTI and GTD leave it way behind. Will a 26kg difference in the GTD really ruin it compared to the GTI? Sounds like yet another journalist talking sh!te about a car they haven't really tried. If they had one to try then surely they'd have taken a pic of it rather than use the Tornado Red, Wolfsburg plates LHD GTD stock photo from VW yet again. Absolute bollocks. If I were to review something I hadn't tried and gave it a bad review as a result I could be accused of libel.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 19 June 2013, 19:13
Beats me how these cretins are in journalism. No it doesn't come with red calipers you total bell end!!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 20 June 2013, 19:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzBywBT8gTM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzBywBT8gTM) English commentary - some good bits amongst the cheese as pick out what drivers is stating ..
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 June 2013, 20:32
That's the best gtd review so far and the test driver is a former touring car champion (if I remember correctly)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 20 June 2013, 22:08
That's the best gtd review so far and the test driver is a former touring car champion (if I remember correctly)

I second that. Some sense at long last :nerd:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 June 2013, 23:23
What the hell is it he's storing on the back seat at the start?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 20 June 2013, 23:35
What the hell is it he's storing on the back seat at the start?

It's the optional GTD performance pack (available from week 54!)  :grin:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 June 2013, 23:36
What the hell is it he's storing on the back seat at the start?

It's the optional GTD performance pack (available from week 54!)  :grin:

LOL
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 June 2013, 08:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzBywBT8gTM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzBywBT8gTM) English commentary - some good bits amongst the cheese as pick out what drivers is stating ..

Definitely turn the subtitles on, they get the translation so wrong a lot of the time.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 21 June 2013, 12:45
http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/cars/review/first-drive-volkswagen-golf-20-gtd-5dr/47410/ (http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/cars/review/first-drive-volkswagen-golf-20-gtd-5dr/47410/)

Positive review but more obviously so as Business Driver biased - Comment at end to sound acctuator and not sure I would even want this anyway as happily live without it now and kind of seems pointless?

Think have to experience in action to truly judge

Will it also be a standard UK feature? I def would not pay for it. My car due in October (know this as when lease ends on current) so it might squeeze in if standard but to be honest either way not too excited/bothered
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 June 2013, 13:17
I will be amazed if the UK GTD doesn't have the sound actuator - this isn't some new device - they're been routinely putting it onto the 170TDI VWs since 2009.

It does sound very good, but it's also clear when you have the windows open that the sound is completely fake. The Scirocco R has it fitted too so that it sounds different from the 210PS 2.0TSI unit.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 21 June 2013, 19:37
http://youtu.be/ZDBq5RbnF-I (http://youtu.be/ZDBq5RbnF-I)

Why can't these Germans speak English! They speak better English than us natives! What's the craic?!! lol  :grin:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 22 June 2013, 16:28
Not a GTD review but a 150BHP Diesel review and shows even this model is pretty decent performance wise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUVXN0oZU-0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUVXN0oZU-0) Good looks at standard SAT NAV in use and mention of GTD in how desired at the end
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Jules Winfield on 22 June 2013, 19:07
http://youtu.be/ZDBq5RbnF-I (http://youtu.be/ZDBq5RbnF-I)

Why can't these Germans speak English! They speak better English than us natives! What's the craic?!! lol  :grin:

You didn't miss a huge amount.  They like the car and the features it comes with (like stop-start), but spend most of the time reciting figures (power, torque, fuel consumption), comparing the Mark 7 to the Mark 6 (the bit with the guy in the orange shirt) and showing pictures of other cars on the three day rally event.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 23 June 2013, 09:30
We must be close to getting a proper British road test?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 23 June 2013, 12:50
By the end of the year, Volkswagen hopes to offer optional noise actuator gadgetry to make the GTD sound like a monster V8 at full throttle – but thanks to clever computing, it will be audible only to those inside the car.

http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/cars/review/first-drive-volkswagen-golf-20-gtd-5dr/47410/

My GTD will lose iro £20,000 over 4 years according to this.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 June 2013, 13:22
Not clear from that if this is an improved actuator, or if cars shipping now don't get one... :undecided:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 23 June 2013, 14:13
It's as clear as everything else with VW  :whistle: :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 June 2013, 17:07

My GTD will lose iro £20,000 over 4 years according to this.

Their quotes are for 20k miles pa (i.e. 80k miles in 4 years). If you're a 10k miles pa driver or thereabouts, the GFV for GTD (which should be worst case scenario) is 56% after 3 years, so I would expect a realistic 60% after 3 and 50% after 4 in reality unless the economy gets even worse than it already is.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 23 June 2013, 19:11
True, but I'm on 22,000 miles a year :sad:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 June 2013, 20:12
True, but I'm on 22,000 miles a year :sad:

There's always a penalty for high mileage, no matter what you're driving. I still think you won't lose anywhere near £20k in 4 years - my dad's 6 year old Golf Mk5 GT 170TDI DSG with 111k miles on the clock has a p/x allowance of £5500 against his new GTD. Saying that though, losses depend on your options as they'll retain next to nowt, you'll lose £16k on the basic car price (my estimate, for what it's worth).
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 24 June 2013, 19:19
http://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/20972/volkswagen_golf_gtd_2015-crossing_our_fingers.../ (http://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/20972/volkswagen_golf_gtd_2015-crossing_our_fingers.../)

A short but well balanced review

The weakness 'unknown reliability' is a strange one though to place as a weakness?!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 19:39
http://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/20972/volkswagen_golf_gtd_2015-crossing_our_fingers.../ (http://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/20972/volkswagen_golf_gtd_2015-crossing_our_fingers.../)

A short but well balanced review

The weakness 'unknown reliability' is a strange one though to place as a weakness?!

I read into that, the reviewer has no idea how reliable the TDI is as they just don't use TDIs in Canada to know how reliable they are. If they think the GTI is reliable, would they think VW would potentially put an unreliable engine into the GTD? Seems a very daft negative point, I wouldn't consider any of the US marques which probably dominate the Canadian car market to be any more reliable than VW.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 24 June 2013, 19:48
http://www.raccars.co.uk/news/article/2418/2013-volkswagen-golf-gtd-road-test (http://www.raccars.co.uk/news/article/2418/2013-volkswagen-golf-gtd-road-test)

Again may have been posted before so apologies but another nice UK based review from RAC
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 24 June 2013, 19:51
http://www.cap.co.uk/news/first-driving-impressions-volkswagen-golf-gtd (http://www.cap.co.uk/news/first-driving-impressions-volkswagen-golf-gtd)

This guy loves it quite obviously.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: iainmac on 27 June 2013, 08:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzBywBT8gTM
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 27 June 2013, 20:20
http://www.leftlanenews.com/volkswagen-gtd-first-drive-review.html

Some of you will like the colour too :p
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 27 June 2013, 20:38
http://www.leftlanenews.com/volkswagen-gtd-first-drive-review.html

Some of you will like the colour too :p

Having seen a white GTI in flesh last week and seen how it shows all the lines and accentuates the features and chrome then seeing this  has me even more convinced white is best for GTD.

Think the features get lost in that colour a little though it might just be the photos and be better in flesh.

Love the grey interior blends in well with surrounds and those wheels :)

As much as sure going to like the cloth seats do think VW missed a trick as think most of us staying with tartan would have paid for the option.

But overall the GTD looks pretty fine I think :)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 27 June 2013, 20:54
Agreed, once I looked at these pic's made me even more sure that PW is the way forward... and I still like the even more understated GTD (no red bits for me, but I get it's a personal thing)

The thing I'm still really confused about is wheels, I think I like the 18 nogs more, but they don't fill the wheel arch enough imo...
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: GTD Paul on 27 June 2013, 21:13
I still to see one in black to see if I have made the right choice just think it will look stealthy especially with the 19" santiago's on and fed up of owning white cars.......should certainly look mean at dusk with running lights on!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 27 June 2013, 21:39
I still to see one in black to see if I have made the right choice just think it will look stealthy especially with the 19" santiago's on and fed up of owning white cars.......should certainly look mean at dusk with running lights on!

I am a fan of black, my last two were black, Phantom and Brilliant and the A3 always looks amazing when I give it the full treatment, it is a great colour for a car, BUT it does show the dust and dirt quite readily and bird mess in particular and there is also swirls and fine lines close up.

I am not a detailer and the car does the daily churn of domestic and work and it is infrequent to when I get to give her a clean so for me I think the white is going to be a better day to day colour for me.

But do not second guess the look of the Black as seen many a Golf GTI in that colour and always look great and sure with them Santiago it will look amazing :)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: RikWebb on 28 June 2013, 03:24
http://www.leftlanenews.com/volkswagen-gtd-first-drive-review.html

What colour - answers on a postcard!  :smiley:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 28 June 2013, 07:33
http://www.leftlanenews.com/volkswagen-gtd-first-drive-review.html

What colour - answers on a postcard!  :smiley:

Almost 100% sure it's Limestone Grey. Not my favourite for the GTD/GTI models. Somehow it just doesn't suit it.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Exonian on 28 June 2013, 13:46
http://www.leftlanenews.com/volkswagen-gtd-first-drive-review.html

What colour - answers on a postcard!  :smiley:

Almost 100% sure it's Limestone Grey. Not my favourite for the GTD/GTI models. Somehow it just doesn't suit it.

Yes, Limestone.
I have a Limestone GT TDI parked near me every day so am very familiar with the shade.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 28 June 2013, 17:15
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1085085_2015-volkswagen-gtd-preview-drive (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1085085_2015-volkswagen-gtd-preview-drive)

Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 29 June 2013, 08:09
http://autoblog.ca/reader/news/2014-volkswagen-gtd-first-drive-gti-tdi-a-lot-to-like
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 June 2013, 09:09
http://autoblog.ca/reader/news/2014-volkswagen-gtd-first-drive-gti-tdi-a-lot-to-like

According to that atricle VWs future is in US sales? If that's the case then why do they pay 2/3 of what the European market do (except for the poor Danes!)? Fair do's that a Mexican built one has far cheaper labour costs, but they keep moaning about wanting a German built one - the GTI and GTD would fall flat on their arse if they had to pay $40k for one. Are we subsidising the US market's cheap prices? They already get free metallic paint and a 10 year power train warranty. We get a very poor deal compared to them. It's hard to stomach that a German built GTI or GTD costs £9.5k in the US despite import tax - I thoughht we got favourable taxation for European produced goods with the EU.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 29 June 2013, 09:55
We must be getting some UK reviews very soon so you think?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: GTD Paul on 29 June 2013, 10:24
Hopefully from me if it makes the boat over, been ready for 9 days but still no news on a deliver date.....
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 29 June 2013, 10:43
Hopefully from me if it makes the boat over, been ready for 9 days but still no news on a deliver date.....

That must be so frustrating...I'm really ready now for a proper review so will be looking forward to it... soon I hope  :smiley:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 30 June 2013, 19:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnzazpm81s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnzazpm81s)

7.1 seconds to 60 and sounds pretty good to me.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Jimble on 30 June 2013, 19:16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnzazpm81s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnzazpm81s)

7.1 seconds to 60 and sounds pretty good to me.

So the GTD gets the red stripe between the dials too then? :huh:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 30 June 2013, 19:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnzazpm81s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnzazpm81s)

7.1 seconds to 60 and sounds pretty good to me.

So the GTD gets the red stripe between the dials too then? :huh:

All the GTD photos I have seen confirm that red stripe is a standard feature (In other words it is exact same display as GTI) but until we see the UK dials ourselves we cannot be 100% certain.

Hopefully some of the GTI guys receiving theirs now will show if dials are MPH & KPH? or just MPH? Imagine it will be former?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Jimble on 30 June 2013, 20:01
In the price list it specifies "GTD specific instrument cluster" and "GTI specific instrument cluster" so i thought they'd be different?? :undecided:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 30 June 2013, 20:22
In the price list it specifies "GTD specific instrument cluster" and "GTI specific instrument cluster" so i thought they'd be different?? :undecided:

They maybe will be? as all we have seen to present are demo and vehicles set up for reviewers and they could have been generically built with/without some features IE:ADC

You would imagine this line in GTD would be chrome as the red line, small a detail as it is, will look out of place in the grey/chrome GTD theme that replaces GTI Red.

Till the cars start flowing here I do not think there is any final certainty on anything. Is sound actuator standard on UK GTD or is there the 'sport pack' to come etc?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 June 2013, 22:27
In the price list it specifies "GTD specific instrument cluster" and "GTI specific instrument cluster" so i thought they'd be different?? :undecided:

James, I love how you know every detail from the price list!  Yeah, that stripe should be grey on the GTD sounds like...
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Jimble on 30 June 2013, 22:37
In the price list it specifies "GTD specific instrument cluster" and "GTI specific instrument cluster" so i thought they'd be different?? :-\

James, I love how you know every detail from the price list!  Yeah, that stripe should be grey on the GTD sounds like...


Plenty of time to get acquainted with it unfortunately! :D
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 30 June 2013, 23:14
In the price list it specifies "GTD specific instrument cluster" and "GTI specific instrument cluster" so i thought they'd be different?? :undecided:

Sadly it appears to be the same as the GTI cluster which is crap really isn't it. Especially as the UK brochure states "unique ‘GTD’ instrument cluster".

(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w565/Gary_Monkey/image_zps822ebc7e.jpg)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 June 2013, 23:20
I suppose by "unique" they might mean different to the rest of the range.  As if they copied the GTI description but changed it from GTI to GTD.  Technically that's not unique then... But I could see where they were coming from.

Or the demos are all wrong.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 July 2013, 08:23
Hopefully i'll be able to answer these questions (dials, "Soundaktor")today. Events happening over the weekend would imply that my dad's GTD will be collected today after the dealer has pulled some very long and complicated strings to streamline the delivery to the dealership from the docks.

If so we'll be getting the GTechniq treatments put on tonight and i'll take a few pics.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 July 2013, 10:46
Hopefully i'll be able to answer these questions (dials, "Soundaktor")today. Events happening over the weekend would imply that my dad's GTD will be collected today after the dealer has pulled some very long and complicated strings to streamline the delivery to the dealership from the docks.

If so we'll be getting the GTechniq treatments put on tonight and i'll take a few pics.

Looking forward to hearing all about it!  Your dealer is doing a good job then.  I somewhat doubt mine would attempt to "pull some strings" to speed things up for me in this kind of situation.  heh heh.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 July 2013, 11:06
Looking forward to hearing all about it!  Your dealer is doing a good job then.  I somewhat doubt mine would attempt to "pull some strings" to speed things up for me in this kind of situation.  heh heh.

I was a bit worried that if he pressed too hard on the port authorities that they'd be pulling the car to bits, concerned it was a mule car for drug trafficking and he was trying to bypass customs! :whistle:

The dealer has pulled a bit of a fast one with the "free" service pack that was in the deal though. My dad has decided not to do VW finance - he's just paying for it outright with some of his savings (only making 2.9%). The dealer has asked him to pay the £120 difference on the service pack as it was £249 with VW finance, or £369 without. I'm sure that the £249 service pack offer came in after the point of ordering. There is certainly no mention of the offer in the early edition of the pricelist (dated 01 April 2013).

My dad has also offered to lend me the £20k I need for mine at 2.9% (the same he'd be getting in his ISAs), so that's a £48 monthly saving in interest for me. I will be pointing out that £249 service pack wasn't an option when I ordered mine in late March if he tries the £120 on with me.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: OF1 on 01 July 2013, 11:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnzazpm81s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPnzazpm81s)

7.1 seconds to 60 and sounds pretty good to me.

Sounds awesome!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 July 2013, 15:26
Just been to see monkeyhangers dads gtd. Looks much much better in the flesh than any pictures do. I like it looks wise better than the gti as the wheels are a much better design IMO. not putting any pics up as it isn't my car. I can't wait for mine to arrive in September now... come on!!!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 July 2013, 15:29
not putting any pics up as it isn't my car

WUT!?! :evil:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 July 2013, 15:32
not putting any pics up as it isn't my car

WUT!?! :evil:
wouldn't be good putting pictures of someone else's car on a public forum before they've even picked it up  :smiley:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 01 July 2013, 15:54
not putting any pics up as it isn't my car

WUT!?! :evil:
wouldn't be good putting pictures of someone else's car on a public forum before they've even picked it up  :smiley:

As tempting as maybe, we know whose car this is and that would be my thinking too, and hopefully we will get to see it anyway soon :)

Nogaro would have been a tempting option so to have as standard was a bonus, they work so well with GTD and show discs and calipers really well and even at speed to :)

I also like the exhausts side by side too

Glad you were happy when saw for first time in flesh and no anti climax as sure that eased any concerns and raised expectations to when get yours.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 July 2013, 16:13
I walked through the workshop knowing that no matter what it wasn't my car I was looking at. saw it and a smile appeared on my face. I can't wait for September now and it hasn't just raised expectations it's blown them away.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 July 2013, 17:31
mcmaddy: If you took some pics, get them put up - I won't mind in the slightest. My dad hasn't got back yet. If the weather holds off (looks like rain) We'll be getting the Gtechniq put on and then i'll take some some pics.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: KyleB on 01 July 2013, 20:39
Loving some of these videos, although it is making my wait even more unbearable!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 02 July 2013, 09:42
Carbon Steel Grey GTD. Lovely colour!  :smiley:

http://youtu.be/fKAWfqo6egA (http://youtu.be/fKAWfqo6egA)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: iainmac on 02 July 2013, 09:49
Stunning!  :smiley: Mine is getting built as we speak! :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 02 July 2013, 10:15
Stunning!  :smiley: Mine is getting built as we speak! :wink:

Lucky you Iain, mine's not even got a build week, despite the order going through on the 9th April  :cry:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 July 2013, 10:31
mine's not even got a build week, despite the order going through on the 9th April  :cry:

I bet you're BW34 or 35.  9th Apr is too early to be later than this unless something happened to delay your order.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 02 July 2013, 10:39
Carbon Steel Grey GTD. Lovely colour!  :smiley:

http://youtu.be/fKAWfqo6egA (http://youtu.be/fKAWfqo6egA)

Wheels look great with the Carbon too :) They deifinitely a feature.

Shame we do not get the red calipers here and does not even look like they are painted grey, though things might change a little once the flow of GTI/GTD increases from these first ones off the boat.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 02 July 2013, 16:42
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhall/astra/64778/vauxhall-astra-biturbo (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhall/astra/64778/vauxhall-astra-biturbo)

GTD is readily reviewed against the GTI, mainly in line with preference but a review of a direct or very near (little cheaper) rival

Stacks up quite poorly really when consider more power and torque, yet slower and by all accounts far less refined. Also worse MPG and Emissions.

This GTD engine in the GTI suit is going to be very hard to beat in direct comparison to any sport diesel out there.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 02 July 2013, 22:34
http://www.raccars.co.uk/news/article/2418/2013-volkswagen-golf-gtd-road-test (http://www.raccars.co.uk/news/article/2418/2013-volkswagen-golf-gtd-road-test)

Do not remember seeing this one but a well balanced review that gives full kudos to the GTI but without using it as a stick to beat the GTD with  :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 02 July 2013, 23:29
mine's not even got a build week, despite the order going through on the 9th April  :cry:

I bet you're BW34 or 35.  9th Apr is too early to be later than this unless something happened to delay your order.

I ordered keyless entry after the initial order (about 4 weeks after) and yes Bill, the dealer is telling me week 34/35.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 July 2013, 23:35
mine's not even got a build week, despite the order going through on the 9th April  :cry:

I bet you're BW34 or 35.  9th Apr is too early to be later than this unless something happened to delay your order.

I ordered keyless entry after the initial order (about 4 weeks after) and yes Bill, the dealer is telling me week 34/35.

Congrats Sam, feels good to get an actual date don't it? :laugh:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 02 July 2013, 23:39
mine's not even got a build week, despite the order going through on the 9th April  :cry:

I bet you're BW34 or 35.  9th Apr is too early to be later than this unless something happened to delay your order.

I ordered keyless entry after the initial order (about 4 weeks after) and yes Bill, the dealer is telling me week 34/35.

Congrats Sam, feels good to get an actual date don't it? :laugh:

Well that's unofficial Bill! Would like an earlier build week if possible, but looking forward to the Autumn  :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 03 July 2013, 19:47
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130703/CARREVIEWS/130709944 (http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130703/CARREVIEWS/130709944)

Is there not a colour those nogaro look great on?! :smiley:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 03 July 2013, 19:51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GRPeKD8Jpc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GRPeKD8Jpc)

Looks just like my GTD that's coming :) Sounds pretty good for a diesel  :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 04 July 2013, 23:29
Not a review but just a comparison with direct competition to GTD the Bi Turbo Astra and just configured it and amazed how much that was standard on GTD is an option on Astra - So base price is lower but price soon jumps!

Bi-Turbo £24,100.00
2.0CDTi 16v (195PS) Start/Stop, Manual 6-speed 
Summit White £250.00
Track, Jet Black £0.00
18-inch five-spoke alloy wheels with 245/45 R 18 tyres £0.00
Dual-zone Electronic Climate Control (ECC) incorporating air conditioning £305.00
Options Total £5,215.00
Tyre pressure monitoring system £110.00
Electrically foldable door mirrors £180.00
Electrically operated rear windows £170.00
Sight and light pack £0.00
Seat comfort pack one: Driver’s seat with six-way manual adjustment and four-way electrical lumbar adjustment £170.00
Premium Forward Lighting Pack (only available in conjunction with Sight and Light Pack) £790.00
Driving assistance pack one £750.00
Rear-view camera pack £1,095.00
Mobile phone system with Bluetooth® (does not include phone) £220.00
Electric parking brake £225.00
FlexRide adaptive chassis control system with continuous damping control £790.00
DMB digital radio with shark fin /integrated aerial £160.00 
 
Final RRP (incl. VAT) £29,315.00
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 July 2013, 08:15
mjh: I would'nt include Vauxhalls answer to ACC/DCC in that comparison, it's not standard on the Golf either! The amount of standard kit on a GTD/GTI are part of what makes it great value (and most of it is proper useful stuff rather than gimmickery), that and the class leading GFV.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 05 July 2013, 10:16
mjh: I would'nt include Vauxhalls answer to ACC/DCC in that comparison, it's not standard on the Golf either! The amount of standard kit on a GTD/GTI are part of what makes it great value (and most of it is proper useful stuff rather than gimmickery), that and the class leading GFV.

Yep, when did that was comparing with mine to see how panned out and pretty close really and it is not with any biased in saying no contest in what car would choose! Had a 1.8 SLXi once and interior had the feel of an Amstrad Power tower and though they improved still hate the whole facia, how arranged and materials .. Good to see what GTD is stacking up against directly opposed to the GTI comparisons given the one glaring difference.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 05 July 2013, 13:45

http://jalopnik.com/2014-volkwagen-golf-gtd-the-40-mpg-diesel-hot-hatch-o-660300193
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 05 July 2013, 17:31

http://jalopnik.com/2014-volkwagen-golf-gtd-the-40-mpg-diesel-hot-hatch-o-660300193

Real nice review. Good find. Think the GTD is gonna be a beauty ;-)

Crazy the Yanks aren't getting it until 2015! They don't seem to have embraced the diesel revolution like the Europeans have.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: KyleB on 05 July 2013, 18:19

http://jalopnik.com/2014-volkwagen-golf-gtd-the-40-mpg-diesel-hot-hatch-o-660300193

It says that there are 2 SD card inserts? Is this the case on the UK model?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 July 2013, 19:39

http://jalopnik.com/2014-volkwagen-golf-gtd-the-40-mpg-diesel-hot-hatch-o-660300193

It says that there are 2 SD card inserts? Is this the case on the UK model?

1 SD card slot unless you ordered satnav I think, positive I only saw one on my dad's. The other SD card slot is for satnav maps.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 July 2013, 20:22

http://jalopnik.com/2014-volkwagen-golf-gtd-the-40-mpg-diesel-hot-hatch-o-660300193

Real nice review. Good find. Think the GTD is gonna be a beauty ;-)

Crazy the Yanks aren't getting it until 2015! They don't seem to have embraced the diesel revolution like the Europeans have.

I don't think they understand why you'd want a semi engine in your car.


http://jalopnik.com/2014-volkwagen-golf-gtd-the-40-mpg-diesel-hot-hatch-o-660300193

It says that there are 2 SD card inserts? Is this the case on the UK model?

1 SD card slot unless you ordered satnav I think, positive I only saw one on my dad's. The other SD card slot is for satnav maps.

Yeah it's 2 for the pro Nav, not sure on the basic nav
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 July 2013, 21:38

http://jalopnik.com/2014-volkwagen-golf-gtd-the-40-mpg-diesel-hot-hatch-o-660300193

Real nice review. Good find. Think the GTD is gonna be a beauty ;-)

Crazy the Yanks aren't getting it until 2015! They don't seem to have embraced the diesel revolution like the Europeans have.

I don't think they understand why you'd want a semi engine in your car.


Won't a yank GTI run like a GTD with RON91 fuel?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 06 July 2013, 06:51

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/reviews/drives/2014-volkswagen-golf-gtd-test-drive-15655863?click=pm_latest



Indeed, there comes a time in one's life when fiscal discipline takes precedence over cheap thrills.  :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 July 2013, 08:51

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/reviews/drives/2014-volkswagen-golf-gtd-test-drive-15655863?click=pm_latest



Indeed, there comes a time in one's life when fiscal discipline takes precedence over cheap thrills.  :wink:

Good review, seems honest and true.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gryzor on 06 July 2013, 10:20
Good review, seems honest and true.

The ones that agree with your own feelings and reasons why you bought the car always are ;)  Certainly no denying that whatever we chose for whatever reasons, I doubt any of us are going to be disappointed! :)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 06 July 2013, 10:34
Good review, seems honest and true.

The ones that agree with your own feelings and reasons why you bought the car always are ;)  Certainly no denying that whatever we chose for whatever reasons, I doubt any of us are going to be disappointed! :)
is got nothing to do with that at all! from a subjective point of view I think the review is honest and true. points out the good points and possibly some downsides. overall it's a balanced review.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gryzor on 06 July 2013, 10:45
I'll give you that, it's balanced, and so are most reviews of the GTI, hence why I'm sure that none of us will be disappointed with our choices!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 11 July 2013, 18:35
At last! And English GTD review!  :laugh:

http://youtu.be/haDOt3cczTo (http://youtu.be/haDOt3cczTo)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: KyleB on 11 July 2013, 19:19
Sounds good in that review!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: AlanH on 11 July 2013, 21:10
http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20130710-vw-golf-gtd-fast-and-frugal
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 11 July 2013, 21:11
At last! And English GTD review!  :laugh:

http://youtu.be/haDOt3cczTo (http://youtu.be/haDOt3cczTo)



Great find...great review...not very English tho  :tongue:  :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 July 2013, 21:25
http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20130710-vw-golf-gtd-fast-and-frugal

Says cant read this in the UK...
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 11 July 2013, 21:31
http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20130710-vw-golf-gtd-fast-and-frugal

Says cant read this in the UK...



It's the British Broadcasting Corporation...what do you expect Bill  :wink:
 
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 July 2013, 23:11
http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20130710-vw-golf-gtd-fast-and-frugal

Says cant read this in the UK...
I'll have a look tomorrow, works internet goes through a French server.


It's the British Broadcasting Corporation...what do you expect Bill  :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: dippy_x on 13 July 2013, 09:38
Sounds good in that review!

Excellent find.  Is that a Limestone grey?  Looks a bit light for CSG!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 15 July 2013, 20:36
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2013/06/11/082111-new-gtd-is-long-distance-express-car-golf-range.html

I've not seen this one before
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: KyleB on 16 July 2013, 11:46
Find it strange that a lot of he reviews are from US sites, when the GTD isn't even in line for release there. Need a good test drive review on some British roads.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: physio on 16 July 2013, 16:25
good review on the G T D  in august edition of CAR magazine  :smiley:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: iainmac on 16 July 2013, 17:51
Not a review, but a nice walk around of a carbon grey GTD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5G-C6qLOK4
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 July 2013, 18:22
Not a review, but a nice walk around of a carbon grey GTD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5G-C6qLOK4

I wonder why that GTD has bright red calipers?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: peterdoherty on 16 July 2013, 18:31
Not a review, but a nice walk around of a carbon grey GTD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5G-C6qLOK4

I wonder why that GTD has bright red calipers?

Prob German spec - few photos of similar floating about here somewhere
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: matchboy on 16 July 2013, 19:43
Not a review, but a nice walk around of a carbon grey GTD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5G-C6qLOK4

I wonder why that GTD has bright red calipers?

The car wants to be a GTI!  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 16 July 2013, 22:23
http://wardsauto.com/vehicle-test-drives/give-me-diesel-or-give-me-diesel

An unusual review / comparison
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Ricepop on 18 July 2013, 13:12
First English version of a GTD Video Review I have seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haDOt3cczTo
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 20 July 2013, 08:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuhPe4OGOxA

Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 23 July 2013, 20:48
Ummm


What about a high performance model to rival the Ford Focus ST?

It’s on the cards – Seat top brass are considering a hot Leon ST Cupra model as an alternative to the Focus ST Estate, which has the circa-£25k hot estate market all to itself. The hot Seat would be the closest thing to a VW Golf GTI wagon, using a 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol four-cylinder mustering around 220bhp. With VW insiders confirming that a Golf GTD Estate is being developed, the Leon ST Cupra could go on sale without stepping on the Golf GTD Estate’s toes. If the Leon ST Cupra does make the business case, you’ll see it sometime later in 2014.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Seat-Leon-ST-2014-first-official-pictures/



Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 July 2013, 07:53
Ummm


What about a high performance model to rival the Ford Focus ST?

It’s on the cards – Seat top brass are considering a hot Leon ST Cupra model as an alternative to the Focus ST Estate, which has the circa-£25k hot estate market all to itself. The hot Seat would be the closest thing to a VW Golf GTI wagon, using a 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol four-cylinder mustering around 220bhp. With VW insiders confirming that a Golf GTD Estate is being developed, the Leon ST Cupra could go on sale without stepping on the Golf GTD Estate’s toes. If the Leon ST Cupra does make the business case, you’ll see it sometime later in 2014.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Seat-Leon-ST-2014-first-official-pictures/

Seems a bit odd to call it a Cupra and only give it 220PS when 261PS has been the recent standard. The extra PS over a GTI is probably the biggest justification to buy a Cupra rather than a GTI (the price  difference isn't that big and better residuals on the GTI make the price difference pretty much redundant).
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 25 July 2013, 20:30
 http://autofixx.com/2013/2014-volkswagen-golf-gtd-review/
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Gordor on 25 July 2013, 20:31
Ummm


What about a high performance model to rival the Ford Focus ST?

It’s on the cards – Seat top brass are considering a hot Leon ST Cupra model as an alternative to the Focus ST Estate, which has the circa-£25k hot estate market all to itself. The hot Seat would be the closest thing to a VW Golf GTI wagon, using a 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol four-cylinder mustering around 220bhp. With VW insiders confirming that a Golf GTD Estate is being developed, the Leon ST Cupra could go on sale without stepping on the Golf GTD Estate’s toes. If the Leon ST Cupra does make the business case, you’ll see it sometime later in 2014.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Seat-Leon-ST-2014-first-official-pictures/

Seems a bit odd to call it a Cupra and only give it 220PS when 261PS has been the recent standard. The extra PS over a GTI is probably the biggest justification to buy a Cupra rather than a GTI (the price  difference isn't that big and better residuals on the GTI make the price difference pretty much redundant).


It's all odd imo  :grin:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: sam67GTD on 09 August 2013, 20:12
http://www.coches.net/noticias/volkswagen-golf-gti (http://www.coches.net/noticias/volkswagen-golf-gti)

GTI v's GTD


Great review if you speak Spanish :)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Kingsley on 13 August 2013, 07:48
There's plenty of GTD's in the UK now, albeit mostly at dealers as demos, so I'm surprised that there hasn't been any UK road test / comparison test of the GTD yet. The only ones I've seen are back from the original Euro launch in June. Anyone else seen anything yet?
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 August 2013, 09:11
There's plenty of GTD's in the UK now, albeit mostly at dealers as demos, so I'm surprised that there hasn't been any UK road test / comparison test of the GTD yet. The only ones I've seen are back from the original Euro launch in June. Anyone else seen anything yet?

You could get a test drive and make your own mind up. It is a step up from the MK6 GTD and the Scirocco 170TDI in power, ride refinement, interior, equipment. If you are after a performance Diesel you won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Kingsley on 13 August 2013, 09:58
Don't worry about that, I have one on order, and no review will change my mind, but I still like to read and disagree with them :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: petecollie on 16 August 2013, 22:09
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/65613/volkswagen-golf-gtd-dsg-review  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 31 August 2013, 16:12
http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/cars/reviews/volkswagen/golf/lower-medium-2013/20-tdi-gtd-184/48101/ (http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/cars/reviews/volkswagen/golf/lower-medium-2013/20-tdi-gtd-184/48101/)

A fleet and company view ...
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 03 September 2013, 13:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boDi-Jdd6Dc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boDi-Jdd6Dc)

English Kelley Blue Book Review - Nice positive review with some great shots and one that does not make what is now a relatively short wait for me any easier as looks so good :)
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 September 2013, 19:58
probably the best or near the best review we've seen. that carbon grey looks fantastic. damn it why did I order white  :laugh:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 September 2013, 20:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boDi-Jdd6Dc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boDi-Jdd6Dc)

English Kelley Blue Book Review - Nice positive review with some great shots and one that does not make what is now a relatively short wait for me any easier as looks so good :)

Although i'm seriously biased, I do think the red ones look best in that video. I wish the weather had been a little less drab to set off the grey GTD properly against the background.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 03 September 2013, 20:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boDi-Jdd6Dc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boDi-Jdd6Dc)

English Kelley Blue Book Review - Nice positive review with some great shots and one that does not make what is now a relatively short wait for me any easier as looks so good :)

Although i'm seriously biased, I do think the red ones look best in that video. I wish the weather had been a little less drab to set off the grey GTD properly against the background.

I have seen the Midnight Blue (Milton Keynes) and the White (Letchworth) in flesh and to be honest I was blown away by the Blue which was not even a colour I was considering and then next day a shade more so by the white.

Think the GTD looks great in all colours from what seen as the chrome and black features enhances. CSG was my second choice but having seen a white absolutely no regrets at all :)

My A3 is starting to look so dated now when walk out to it.

Loved the interior too and this review I think just confirms it is going to be a great car to own.

Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Ricepop on 04 September 2013, 11:10
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/65835/volkswagen-golf-gti-vs-gtd-video-review

Haven't watched it yet but its a comparison between the GTD and the GTI
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Buddy on 04 September 2013, 21:05
Wow, what an unsaysfying review...  :undecided:

Mpg over a 1km drag race... how utterly irrelevant.

Megane RS comparison to GTI... If you're going to compare just one dimension, why bother mentioning it?

"diesely", "the gti has more top end power" tell us something that we cant already gather just by reading the technical specs!  :whistle:

All in all, a wasted opportunity with yet another pointless same-stable comparison.

Now a GTD versus the Merc a220 cdi/BMW 120d etc/Volvo v40 d4 or a GTI versus one of its true peers (not a 300+bhp monster that costs 25% more to buy) would be worth doing!  :smiley:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: AMarsh on 17 September 2013, 14:45
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/golf/66062/volkswagen-golf-gtd-vs-vauxhall-astra-biturbo

At last, a direct comparison to a rival.  Maybe not a versus a 120d, but still, much better than the gtd v gti that have been offered previously.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Buddy on 19 September 2013, 17:30
Nice comparison. The difference in their depreciation is huge. The golf despite being around 25% more expensive to begin with will be worth over 10% more than than the Astra in 3 years time! I wonder how the gtd compares to the rest of its typical rivals on total depreciation over 3 years - any residual value geeks out there?  :wink:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 19 September 2013, 19:38
Nice comparison. The difference in their depreciation is huge. The golf despite being around 25% more expensive to begin with will be worth over 10% more than than the Astra in 3 years time! I wonder how the gtd compares to the rest of its typical rivals on total depreciation over 3 years - any residual value geeks out there?  :wink:

I think the only depreciation indicator you can bank on is GFV as a % of RRP for standrad spec (options are poor value for money from a residual values point of view and options are personal and, well optional. Absolute minimum the car company will give you - a show of them "putting their money where there mouth is".

At 56% the GTD is hard to beat.

I suppose the main condenders would be BMW 120D (184), Astra bi-turbo (192), A class A220 AMG Sport (170), A3 2.0TDI S-line(184)

A-class A220 AMG Sport retains approx 51% (reverse engineering the deposit, monthly payments and interest to determine the GFV)

BMW 120D M-sport retains approx 46%

A3 S-line 2.0TDI (184) retains approx 54%

Astra/focus/Megane are all around 35-37%

GTD is the smart money's choice.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Buddy on 19 September 2013, 20:25
Thanks MH
That explains why the gtd's 'whole life cost' on our company car configurator is so much lower than its peers'
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: monkeyhanger on 19 September 2013, 20:47
Thanks MH
That explains why the gtd's 'whole life cost' on our company car configurator is so much lower than its peers'

Yep - take a 5 door GTD manual at £26k, and the 120D M-sport at similar money, run them 3 years and the GTD will be worth £3k more or thereabouts. Taken in reduced monthly payments, and you're talking £83 a month savings on the GTD (without tweaking for interest considerations) - about 22% cheaper to run. That is a significant saving for a car that is better equipped and better to drive. Your rear seat passengers will thank you for not getting a 1 series too.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 21 September 2013, 10:52
GTD Vs the Astra Bi Turbo

Strange they praise the Astra engine and then you go look at the side by side figures for speed and GTD wins out quite easily - the braking comparison was maybe more proof to how good the brakes are on Golfs that been confirmed here.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mjh_056 on 28 September 2013, 16:20
http://www.greenmotor.co.uk/2013/09/vw-golf-7-gtd-review.html (http://www.greenmotor.co.uk/2013/09/vw-golf-7-gtd-review.html)

No mention of DCC in this when commenting on the 'harder' ride but an overall high complimentary overall review given it does have focus on 'green'
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: CR4ZYHOR5E on 03 February 2014, 14:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYRZPkSQJtc

Its in Czech (or similar - excuse my ignorance)...however the driving sequences are well worth a look, and there is a head to head with a 120d over a short slalom course.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: virginVWman on 03 February 2014, 17:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYRZPkSQJtc

Its in Czech (or similar - excuse my ignorance)...however the driving sequences are well worth a look, and there is a head to head with a 120d over a short slalom course.

Thought this video was pretty good also (but Spanish lol) GTI vs GTD short drag race then a full lap...GTD fairs not too badly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDxnm6DUU_A

Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: AdmiralGant on 09 February 2014, 18:14
Not a review as no commentary but plenty of sound and vision........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Rt6s1YaCk 
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: MattCupra on 23 February 2014, 11:46
Just found this newish review on MSN

http://cars.uk.msn.com/reviews/volkswagen-golf-gtd-dsg-five-door-review-2013-onwards
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: virginVWman on 11 July 2014, 16:38
Actually quite keen to get a dyno reading, just the one run and see what BHP its kicking out. Well aware they have the graphs etc but really want my own and to prove to myself
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 August 2014, 20:09
@mark mans I realise you want your post count up but posting full stops to do it is rather annoying for others!
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Rhyso on 10 August 2014, 20:13
@mark mans I realise you want your post count up but posting full stops to do it is rather annoying for others!

Very

Annoying posts removed. Please contribute in a nicer way like welcoming another newbies to the site or posting pictures  :smiley:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: andrewparker on 11 August 2014, 19:12
Anyone seen the 220d comparison in this month's EVO? Pretty honest review of the GTD in my opinion.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: virginVWman on 11 August 2014, 22:02
http://api.app.evo.co.uk/editions/uk.co.dennis.evo.200_6/data/3953_7bc440ecbf31635cfdb32d018fed1b73/web.html

Link below re comparison if anyone fancies a rather good read ha
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Mark mans on 15 August 2014, 22:11
Sorry about that, wanted to PM someone but couldn't until I had 10 posts or more, once again sorry about that.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: david25 on 17 August 2014, 18:24
Evo October GTD vs BMW 220d

Four stars each
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: GTD_777 on 19 August 2014, 10:26
If im honest I expected evo to favour the BMW in a massive way due to thw RW drive. I was pleasantly suprised at how well they scored the GTD. That SE BMW does look pretty boring though if you ask me. I also massively prefer the VW interior, never been a fan of BMWs blandness.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews - Golf MK8 ?
Post by: virtual camper on 22 February 2015, 15:13
some first comments perhaps ont he MK8 due 2018.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/vw-golf-mk8-what-to-expect-from-2018-golf/ar-BBbDl1F

Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 February 2015, 23:00
That's about 4 months old that article.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: andrewparker on 24 February 2015, 20:20
Group test featuring the GTD versus the new diesel ST and the Volvo V40.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/focus/90551/ford-focus-st-diesel-vs-volvo-v40-vw-golf-gtd
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: virtual camper on 01 March 2015, 21:52
Before deciding on the mk7 GTD as my next car, I had a Volvo v40 D4 R design for five days on test drive. Could not wait to hand it back and get back into my mk6 GT. The Volvo made me and my passengers feel car sick!
 Best feature was the folding boot floor. Lol.

Also test drove a skoda Octavia vrs disel. Good car but felt a version behind the golf, Lots of mk 6 switch gear. Also the numbers didn't work for a company car.

Can't say anything about the Ford.I didn't really know about it in November last year.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 March 2015, 22:10
Was it an old Octavia vrs as the new one uses exactly the same switch gear as the mk7 golf.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: virtual camper on 01 March 2015, 22:40
My mistake. it was a new one, but everything, especially the radio seemed a version behind the golf. there was no drama in the cabin like there is in a golf.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: andrewparker on 02 March 2015, 17:19
Before deciding on the mk7 GTD as my next car, I had a Volvo v40 D4 R design for five days on test drive. Could not wait to hand it back and get back into my mk6 GT. The Volvo made me and my passengers feel car sick!
 Best feature was the folding boot floor. Lol.

Also test drove a skoda Octavia vrs disel. Good car but felt a version behind the golf, Lots of mk 6 switch gear. Also the numbers didn't work for a company car.

Can't say anything about the Ford.I didn't really know about it in November last year.

Every Volvo I have been in has made me feel car sick. My Wife wants a new XC60 next year but even in R-Design trim it feels too soft for my liking.
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Restlessnative on 12 December 2015, 20:55
What's the best diesel hot hatch?.We test 5 contenders.Golf v Focus v Leon v 308 v Octavia

Found this little review from Sep15 on the Top Gear site.

www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/whats-best-diesel-hot-hatch-we-test-five-contenders#1
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Restlessnative on 01 January 2016, 20:40
Another oldie this time from from Pocket-lint, but a pretty honest and informative review.One of the reviews that helped me make the right choice!.Interesting bit about the lack of traction in the wet. :whistle:
www.pocket-lint.com/review/128390-volkswagen-golf-gtd-review
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Restlessnative on 08 November 2016, 00:10
Focus ST TDCI Estate V Golf GTD Estate Evo mag 31 Oct 16

www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gtd/18471/ford-focus-st-tdci-estate-v-volkswagen-golf-gtd-estate-performance-estates

Can't remember the last time i saw either. :grin:
Title: Re: New GTD Reviews
Post by: Restlessnative on 08 February 2017, 00:25
Golf GTD review:updated diesel GTI driven 4th Feb17

www.topgear.com/car-reviews/volkswagen/golfgolf-sv/20-tdi-184-gtd-5dr/first-drive

Interesting little write up.I wonder if the MK8 really will be the last of the diesel GTD's?.