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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: spikeyboy22 on 30 June 2020, 12:44
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https://www.carexpert.com.au/news/2021-volkswagen-golf-r-spied-big-brakes-incoming/
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Zoom in and it's obviously wearing lots of blue tape which covers up the black accents/shapes, so it may look a bit better in the finished product.
Having said that, I didn't think VW could make the R look any more dull & bland than they did with the 7/7.5, but they appear to have succeeded...
:huh:
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Having said that, I didn't think VW could make the R look any more dull & bland than they did with the 7/7.5, but they appear to have succeeded...
Its a design goal. R's have never looked like a "type R". Its always lower key than a GTI.
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A similar article from Autocar
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-2020-volkswagen-golf-r-best-look-yet-329bhp-hot-hatch
I wasn't that impressed with the looks of the R, then I saw their article and pics of the new T Roc cabriolet! :)
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A similar article from Autocar
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-2020-volkswagen-golf-r-best-look-yet-329bhp-hot-hatch
I wasn't that impressed with the looks of the R, then I saw their article and pics of the new T Roc cabriolet! :)
The T-Roc cabriolet is a strange one. I thought VW had moved away from building lower volume, niche cars - hence why they killed off the Scirocco and Beetle. And then they build their version of Land Rover’s Evoque convertible.
It’s not cheap either - prices start at around £27.5k for the entry level model with a 1.0 litre 115ps engine.
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Just been looking at the photos on Autocar of the Golf R. I love it that they say undisguised but as you said @kmpowell there are still bits of camouflage and tape all over the front and rear.
Good to see it in a good colour but I suspect when those blue diagonals are taken off the lower front of Golf will show a similar arrangement as the T Roc R so the main grill area will run the full width of the car. Not sure I’m going to like that.
I was looking at the side profile and the rear third seems to look a little stretched, so the proportions aren’t as neat as the mk7.
On the lower part of rear bumper there seems to be more camouflage.
I think it is still my top choice between it and a t-roc cabriolet. When they announced it I did think well at least VW still doing niche products there should be some other niche models as well that I will like, but I’m not so sure. Autocar tested the cabrio the other week Andy their test car was about £40k with options.
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Those diagnoal bits on the R grill are a real feature - see the VW picture of the Mk8 performance golfs, its definitely a real feature.
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Having said that, I didn't think VW could make the R look any more dull & bland than they did with the 7/7.5, but they appear to have succeeded...
Its a design goal. R's have never looked like a "type R". Its always lower key than a GTI.
Nobody says it (or any Golf) should look like a Type R, but there is a middle ground, a look of subtle aggression which has been synonymous with R's. The R32 (MK4 and Mk5), R (MK6 and Mk7/7.5) were not "lower key" than their GTI counterparts. Take the GTI red stripe off the 7/7.5 and, as the GTD, shows, and the GTI is just as low key as the R. So what's changed? Well, quite simply put, the R-Line models. The GTi looks different to the R-Line model due to the red accents, but bar the 4 exhausts on the R, the styling is no longer 'different' enough, IMO, to be seen as aggressive and/or Halo. Look at the new Arteon R, it's vastly different to the R-Line version, but I'm struggling here to see much difference here, albeit as I mentioned there's still lots of blue tape covering up accent lines so we may see something different in the final production model.
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Those diagnoal bits on the R grill are a real feature - see the VW picture of the Mk8 performance golfs, its definitely a real feature.
Its only a partial diagonal as per the picture of VW Mk8s. The diagonal on the VW leaked image doesn't go to the top of bumper. If you look closely at the spy photos of this blue one and white one at Nürburgring, at the top of the diagonal on the photos you can see fixings. So on that basis I think its going to closely resemble T-Roc R lower bumper area.
So I think, the body coloured element will come up to the first horizontal or maybe second horizontal grill line but it won't come up to meet the bumper and bisect the full grill as the camouflage currently does.
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This is what I think the sides of the front grill will look like
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202006130082476?make=VOLKSWAGEN&colour=Blue&model=T-ROC&sort=relevance&aggregatedTrim=R&postcode=sn57ay&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&advertising-location=at_cars&year-to=2020&radius=1500&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202006130082476?make=VOLKSWAGEN&colour=Blue&model=T-ROC&sort=relevance&aggregatedTrim=R&postcode=sn57ay&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&advertising-location=at_cars&year-to=2020&radius=1500&page=1)
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This is what I think the sides of the front grill will look like
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202006130082476?make=VOLKSWAGEN&colour=Blue&model=T-ROC&sort=relevance&aggregatedTrim=R&postcode=sn57ay&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&advertising-location=at_cars&year-to=2020&radius=1500&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202006130082476?make=VOLKSWAGEN&colour=Blue&model=T-ROC&sort=relevance&aggregatedTrim=R&postcode=sn57ay&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&advertising-location=at_cars&year-to=2020&radius=1500&page=1)
I think you’re right Andy.
The picture below was doing the rounds over on golfmk7.com early this year. It looks like a screenshot from VW TV. Although the images are very small, you can see the design of the R’s front bumper - far right of the picture.
(https://i.postimg.cc/BQht0xXW/A481-C8-DC-434-A-41-C5-BCFE-F1-CA2-D3-F1-D98.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I like the pics from Autocar but maybe the colour is swaying me as I've always loved the blue on the R's. Front looks nice to me, rear spoiler ok but undecided how it suits the whole look of the rear end, I'm sure it'll fade away and I'll get used to it.
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A lot of styling pointers from the new Tiguan R as to how the Golf R will look including the seats (which are interestingly in blue and use the TCR pattern which I personally really like).
There’s an awful lot of detailing on the disguised Golf that can be seen clearly on the Tiguan such as bumper styling, the little horizontal glossy black slat effects moulded in to the edges of the bumper trims, the rear valance/diffuser section shapes etc etc
Oh, and it seems 235kw/320PS is the final confirmed power output, so less than a 10% lift which is a shame.
Audi reports still seem to be quoting around 300/306PS for the S3 which is curious.
I quite like the central R logo on the rear. It’s better than a left mounted R badge and gaudy chrome “Golf” centrally positioned.
https://youtu.be/-E8n81wB2n8
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A similar article from Autocar
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-2020-volkswagen-golf-r-best-look-yet-329bhp-hot-hatch
I wasn't that impressed with the looks of the R, then I saw their article and pics of the new T Roc cabriolet! :)
I fear for the future of "focussed" drivers' cars. We're in danger of being swamped by bloated, lumpen SUV's, whereas we should be looking to advance towards more efficient, lighter, less environmentally damaging vehicles which will result in the added benefit of being better and more responsive to drive.
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I quite agree Dr Mike, but it’s the way society is going in general. Despite all the positive noises coming out of people during “lockdown” all this new found humility was forgotten the instant the entitled masses decided it was safe to burst out of their front doors again.
To be honest the face lifted Mini F56 JCW “leaked” at around the same time as the R photos above appeals as a far more engaging driving machine. All these spy shots come from the ‘Ring so chassis development is honed there no matter what marque we choose. Hopefully not at the expense of B road comfort.
I don’t need a car that corners flat at 150 mph, I need one that can take the local roads to me feeling like I’m doing a controlled 150mph when I’m actually staying at sane speeds.
Having hit a badger at 60mph very recently :sad: I think doing much higher speeds is not a great idea as modern car bumpers aren’t very strong and cost a lot to replace! I’d rather be having fun legally than swanning about in something that is acceptable to the entitled middle classes idea of social status.
Having said all that, I royally buggered up my back a few months ago so thought it a good idea to check out a T-Roc R. Do you know what? I loathe SUV’s almost as much as those stupid 1980’s window deflectors that seem to be all the vogue, but it’s actually a really good car.
Yeah, the plastics are a bit low rent but the fit and finish are good and at the end of the day there are still bits of painted metal viewable around the Golf’s doors so it ain’t ‘that’ high a quality in a Golf really (a 1 series has proper trims to hide the painted metal in the front for example).
Weight wise it’s not massively heavier than a Golf and I like the way they’ve put DRL’s in the bumper as a nod to the mk6 R (albeit vertically not horizontally).
There’s still a sizeable market for cars that appeal to those that actually enjoy driving as opposed to playing with modes and apps whilst bombing along at 90mph in cocooned silence on the local dual carriageway before relying on park assist to get them into a space that’s far too small for their vehicle.
Much as I dislike the rest of the mk8 range (and there’s no way a mk8 GTI mesh is going to survive a badger attack!) I actually do like the 8R styling. Plus, aside from the GTE, it’s the only model in the range revealed so far that seems to have any tangible improvement over its predecessor as far as likely performance stats go.
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Rumour has it this will be unveiled on Friday :whistle:
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Rumour has it this will be unveiled on Friday :whistle:
Seems to be some confusion whether this is accurate. Maybe the info came from vw uk and their legendary customer service. :grin:
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Rumour has it this will be unveiled on Friday :whistle:
I think you are spot on Guzzle, we all thought this would be released, which was going to be this week..
So I think you are spot on ...
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From memory they said the release was going to be at Goodwood this July so that kind of ties in
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Rumour has it this will be unveiled on Friday :whistle:
I think you are spot on Guzzle, we all thought this would be released, which was going to be this week..
So I think you are spot on ...
Its nearly the end of the week and Volkswagen haven't unveiled any more R versions of their cars this week. Are they worn out?
Hope it is tomorrow, will be something to cheer me up :smiley:.....before I remember the interior and touch screen madness and I am fed up again. :sad:
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So I took a quick scan of Autocar tonight and their comment was to paraphrase.
“The Golf R was to get unveiling at Goodwood but the event has been cancelled. So there will probably be a separate event later in the year for the reveal”
Well if that’s the case we have to wait longer. Let’s hope they are wrong and at the very least we see it before end of July.
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You might get to see one in a studio shoot but you won't see one in a UK showroom until I'd guess maybe April 2021.
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You might get to see one in a studio shoot but you won't see one in a UK showroom until I'd guess maybe April 2021.
At this point I would be very happy just to see one, in the studio, on the road, anywhere LOL
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Audi S3 unveiled...
Posh Golf R?
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-audi-s3-sportback-and-saloon-arrive-306bhp
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306 bhp confirmed as per the previous article and vid of the disguised one, not the 320 or 300 bhp the R has been touted at. Have ze Germans got some kind of pact?
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(https://i.imgur.com/WKAVu37.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Mw7D5cA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/geOFNsD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hy0318j.jpg)
What in hell have Volkswagen done with the paddle shifters and wheel designs.. .
What in hell have you done Volkswagen
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Those wheels are so bad. Beyond bad.
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Great undercover photos.... but not sure I like what I am seeing.
Seems to have been a good day for info on Performance VAG cars (but not necessarily good news).
I looked down the photos and got to the black exterior shot and thought... bit random putting photo of different model in collection and on those alloy wheels. I had to look again and then went, Ohhh Golf R.
I'm looking at those alloy wheels....do they have plastic black inserts (triangular bits near rim). If they do, forget it, I hate plastic inserts on alloy wheels (Audi seem to do them and I am not a fan).
If this is the 18" standard, then I would be considering the 19" option. I think you are right, Spikeyboy, what is going on with VW wheel design. In terms of gear shifters (think we were expecting that design after seeing Arteon and Tiguan Rs.
After the slagging off the steering wheel got from Autogefuhl in their GTI Review, I'd be interested to test it out myself. (Addition of the R button on steering wheel is good though.
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1. Glad they seem to have added blue as the R signature colour. Looks like there might be a blue stripe like the GTIs red.
2. Those wheels are awful.
3. The car looks exceptionally bland
4. Where has the large rear spoiler gone from earlier?
5. The back end looks really odd with that diffuser.
6. The Mk8 really does need help from the wheels to look good.
7. I really like the steering wheel.
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:shocked: Seems to confirm that the bulk of VW’s development budget went on the ID3 and there wasn’t anything left for the mk8 R :whistle:.
Looking at those pictures, sad to say but I don’t think there’s any aspect of the mk8 R that from a visual perspective looks better than the mk7/mk7.5 R.
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The new steering wheels in the GTI/R look exceptionally boring, such a backward step from the Mk7/7.5. The fact they are fitted decent size paddles is great but mated with that wheel it's just a bit odd and based on the reviews, they have made a massive error with the buttons etc.
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R estate spied... https://uk.motor1.com/news/439738/volkswagen-golf-r-estate-spied/
Personally I've never really liked the styling of the Golf estates. They have a slight awkwardness about them. However this Mk8 version looks a little more pleasing on the eye.
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R estate spied... https://uk.motor1.com/news/439738/volkswagen-golf-r-estate-spied/
Personally I've never really liked the styling of the Golf estates. They have a slight awkwardness about them. However this Mk8 version looks a little more pleasing on the eye.
that's not an R estate. It's got the alltrack body on it.
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R estate spied... https://uk.motor1.com/news/439738/volkswagen-golf-r-estate-spied/
Personally I've never really liked the styling of the Golf estates. They have a slight awkwardness about them. However this Mk8 version looks a little more pleasing on the eye.
that's not an R estate. It's got the alltrack body on it.
Agreed about the Alltrack body, it is an R estate underneath though.
Phase 1 build test mule Audi and VW fast estates have, in the last 3-5 years, been done on their Alltrack/Allroad sibling bodies, to disguise styling. The latest RS4, RS6 and Arteon SB, to name but 3.
It’s phase 2 mules (cold weather testing etc) which move to the actual bodyshell with heavy camo.
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(https://i.imgur.com/WKAVu37.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Mw7D5cA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/geOFNsD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hy0318j.jpg)
What in hell have Volkswagen done with the paddle shifters and wheel designs.. .
What in hell have you done Volkswagen
Oh dear, that black version doesn't make me want to open my wallet!!!
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Oh dear, that black version doesn't make me want to open my wallet!!!
Those pictures have been doing the rounds on other forums recently. The general consensus by existing mk7 / mk7.5 R owners isn’t favourable, which I suppose is predictable and to be expected.
I do like the new flappy paddles on the steering wheel, but that’s about it.
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The blue and white versions I've seen previously haven't looked too bad, GTI is actually growing on me but it's got to be a viewing in the metal really. People did say that black doesn't suit the MK8, seems they were right!
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This would get me to open my wallet
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Was reading the VW press release about Golf GTE, once I had got through all the flowery prose and hyperbole, there was a promising sentence.......
“Iconic Sporty models such as the new Golf GTI, the Golf GTD and the Golf R will be launched in the coming weeks”
So that sounds promising for the final reveal of the cars and hopefully information on the specification. Maybe the Goodwood Speedweek (mid October) will be the reveal as the rumour was it would appear in July at Festival of Speed.
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I hope so, I need something new to look at and read about :smiley: