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General => The garage => Topic started by: yellowgti on 27 June 2006, 15:06
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is it a good idea as i really want to lower the golf a bit aswell as the corsa for the next meet, im having replacement shockers and springs in case i mess up but is their anything i should be aware of before i go cutting away?
it seems like the best part to cut the springs is at the top as they are wider where at the bottom of the spring its smaller so i dont think they would fit after,
any help will be great, thanks
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err NO.
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so you cant cut them then? somebody on corsa c says u can cut the front but not the back is that true?
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If you want the springs to jump out of their cups then by all means cut them, personally i like the feeling of security, knowing that my springs are going to stay where they are meant to be. Suspension kits were developed for a reason, and cutting springs was condemned by everyone for a good reason too.
Get some lowering springs, if you cannot afford them now, then wait till next paycheck.
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You CAN cut springs!
But what you have to do and this rather specialised, you have to heat up say half of the top circle and bend it to suit the top cup. Now this also involves using a heat dissapating putty because when you heat spring steel it loses its spring or tensile strength.
Unless you have a rare vehicle with springs that aint made anymore then this is not worth doing! Also not a job to be done by any amateur!
A set of lowering springs can be bought for as little as £60 all round. So why bother?
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You can only cut the springs on a Corsa as they're not real cars :laugh:
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peen arse..........
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well dropped the front of the golf about 60 ml and its looking sweet and sunday il be doing the back about 70 if i can get away with it, anyway was easy enuff to da just took the springs off and measured 60 ml up then cut and put em back on, no bangs or rattles and handling has improved! and car looks lower, only thing is now because the front was so easy to do i think im going be having problems with the rear but oh well at least i got a spare set of shocks and springs to fall back on!
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I shall await the crash thread.
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I shall await the crash thread.
:laugh:
"I was going round a bend and I don't know what happened, the car just lost control....." :rolleyes:
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oh dear is it going be that bad!! ive only cut 2 rings off them thats all, oh well if it gets wrote off all the more reason for a vr6 or r32 ;-) could really do with the golf dissapearing anyway my lady refuses to sell her baby and states that when we move to florida next year shes taking it with her! please no! we need to be taking a vr6 or r32 in yellow! ;-)
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Selling babies is illegal you know.
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oh dear is it going be that bad!! ive only cut 2 rings off them thats all, oh well if it gets wrote off all the more reason for a vr6 or r32 ;-)
Of course all the time you'll spend in hospitalbeing put back together will not be inconvenient, not to mention what the police and insurance company will do to you if they discover youhave simply hacked at your suspension with a hack saw.
People gave you good advice on here and you just ignored it and are now putting yours and your loved safety at risk. all for what? To look cool? Not worth it in my opinion.
Nick
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No offense mate but you sound like a bit of a twit.
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Who me? If so why?
Nick
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I think the twit comment was directed at the person who cut there springs not you :smiley:
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and i would agree with it t.w.a.t. if u end up in hospital im gonna make sure u get the biggest damn catheter u have ever seen by way of punishment......
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just bin scrappy and found some g-max springs dont know how much lower they are untill i compare when i put them on ! set of 4 springs for £30 ;-) safely does it! oh and im not just a t.w.a.t im the biggest T.w.a.t ever! but i do care for my missus and didnt realise how bad cutting the springs could be!
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glad to see you've seen the error of your ways :smiley:
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ok u have redeemed yourself let this be a lesson for you, listen to the wisdom of the 'o great forum'
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the wisdom is the reason im here without this site id still be stuck on the sluggish mk3 gti thread! since then u guys have helped me with gearbox, non starting, shockers, exhaust, bloody well everything and uve even let me be on stand at santapod at gti spring 2005!
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Redeemed himself? has he f**k, he asked, we advised, he took no notice, and did it anyway.
the only reason the springs are being changed back is because he happened across some at a scrappy.
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Redeemed himself? has he f**k, he asked, we advised, he took no notice, and did it anyway.
the only reason the springs are being changed back is because he happened across some at a scrappy.
i actually went the scrappy looking for some standard springs as the set the guy was going give me never turned up he ended up just giving me the shocks!
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once again a convincing argument is put forward by slick
ok young man ur not redeemed. consider the scorn of the vw community being hurled your way..........
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No, you went to the scrappy to pick up some door speakers. As said by yourself here...
hahaha but now it wont as just been the scrappy to get some door speakers and found some g-max springs that the nice man kindly gave to me for £30 dont know how low they are tho untill i put em on!
anyone that ignores all the warnings and advice they are given about how dangerous a action can be and endangers not only himself but his wife and family, deserves no respect whatsoever.
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ok slick man im on your side on this chill dude!
yellowgti ur a cockface
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I'm not getting angry or owt mate. Just find it slightly worrying that someone will ask a question and go completely against all the advice going and risk his own family just to look cool.
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yeah now i have thought about it thats just damn irresponsible and reckless.
bit like fielder would do! :grin:
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i didnt see his thread befre i commented on other.. i totally agree, what a silly silly thing to do.. even i know you shudnt cut them, hence my ride height is ridiculously high, for now! :smug:
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could really do with the golf dissapearing anyway my lady refuses to sell her baby and states that when we move to florida next year shes taking it with her! please no! we need to be taking a vr6 or r32 in yellow! ;-)
Who didn't giggle at this :grin: He's seen the error of his ways I think he deserves a break :smiley: I'm sure he'll listen to good advice next time :wink:
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I used cut downs in my MKIII Escort and they are not inherently dangerous if done in the right way. However the ride is awful if they are too low and they will fail the MOT if they are not tied back into the mcpherson strut correctly...
T.w.a.t is a bit harsh but then again you did advise against it....
Cheers
Steve
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I used cut downs in my MKIII Escort and they are not inherently dangerous if done in the right way. However the ride is awful if they are too low and they will fail the MOT if they are not tied back into the mcpherson strut correctly...
T.w.a.t is a bit harsh but then again you did advise against it....
Cheers
Steve
but back in them days it was acceptable lol!!
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thats what i thought! i did it on my mk3 escort mk4 escort mk2 xr2i thats why i fort i cud get away with it on the golf!
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golfs are meant to be treasured unlike fords :lipsrsealed:
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I'm not getting angry or owt mate. Just find it slightly worrying that someone will ask a question and go completely against all the advice going and risk his own family just to look cool.
but haven't you heard? People who ask for advice have already made there mind up....
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im sure i have an old revs mag where it had a diy guide to cutting springs :laugh: back in the day when 3 spokes were cool :sick:
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The previous owner of my current car claimed it had been lowered on an Eibach set, but when I looked there was Bilstein stickers on the shocks. Hmmm. Well as mentioned in another thread, after initially thinking the springs had snapped, turns out they'd been cut to lower the car on the cheap - and I drove it without knowing any of this :shocked:
I can catergorically say that if you try this without doing it properly, i.e. professionally, then you will feel like the car is about to veer into the nearest solid object everytime it goes over the smallest bump in the road.
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...The previous owner of my current car claimed it had been lowered on an Eibach set, but when I looked there was Bilstein stickers on the shocks. Hmmm. Well as mentioned in another thread, after initially thinking the springs had snapped, turns out they'd been cut to lower the car on the cheap - and I drove it without knowing any of this...
So when are you going round to lamp him one then?
DD :cool:
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This guy Yellow is a complete T.W.A.T. and will do exactly what he thinks next time!
He didnt listen to any of the advice we gave him and went ahead and did a VERY dangerous act of vandalism on his car!
So he will do exactly the same next time he wants to do something on the cheap!
And jv ya should be ashamed if ya let him on the club stand!!!!!!
And here's another safety point fo you guys - when lowering cars and especially by as much as 60-70mm you MUST have your tracking/toe/camber checked and adjusted aferwards!
Your car will wander and tramline if you dont!
ALSO those nice new Toyo's or whatever tyres will get worn very quickly if ya dont do something!
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well i know this post will get reported straight away but i feel this is something else you all should know. mr yellow is infamous in our local car community as been a T.W.A.T.
ha has been shunned by many local cruise clubs for stupid and danger ous acts such as this one. i cant be arsed to list em.
the cutting of the springs does not suprise me in the least as he does not actually drive the car himself as he is a banned driver. the lack of concern for his girlfried tho is upsetting as we all know how stupid it is to do this to your suspension.
as he claims to be a fully trained mechanic, it seems ridiculous that he would even ask advice when he should know full well that cutting is stupid when as len pointed out, springs are as little as 60 quid all round. brings on the question of ...how much is your life and concience worth???
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lol... owned.
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well i know this post will get reported straight away but i feel this is something else you all should know. mr yellow is infamous in our local car community as been a T.W.A.T.
ha has been shunned by many local cruise clubs for stupid and danger ous acts such as this one. i cant be arsed to list em.
the cutting of the springs does not suprise me in the least as he does not actually drive the car himself as he is a banned driver. the lack of concern for his girlfried tho is upsetting as we all know how stupid it is to do this to your suspension.
as he claims to be a fully trained mechanic, it seems ridiculous that he would even ask advice when he should know full well that cutting is stupid when as len pointed out, springs are as little as 60 quid all round. brings on the question of ...how much is your life and concience worth???
:huh: Oh.... well in that case
T.W.A.T.!!!
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Sod reporting the thread, make it sticky!
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yeah now i have thought about it thats just damn irresponsible and reckless.
bit like fielder would do! :grin:
I resent that comment :tongue:
True, before i quit street racing i would drive extreamly wrecklessly, Id make holes in traffic, Cut drivers up to make them swerve into the path of sombody i was racing. speed in 30 zones. Get in trouble with the police etc etc. But the one thing ive always prided myself on is doing my modifications right. Thats why i forked out so much for bucket seats and harnesses instead of a seatbelt pad and covers from half-frauds. £400+ on coilovers. Strut braces etc, a full exhaust system instead of just a back box. If your gonna build a car built it right. Its dangerious enaugh on the track and the street without people driving dangerious cars too
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Id make holes in traffic, Cut drivers up to make them swerve into the path of sombody i was racing.
Really! Thats just stooopid, i hope you dont do it anymore! If you ever did that to me or my wife and child id seriously come after you and im a very very mild tempered person. Thats just plain stupid. Id be ashamed to even admit it!
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My brother did that once :grin: he was trying to undercut a v8 rover off the lights :rolleyes: clipped his rear quarter and the rover ended up on the wrong side of the road :shocked: I don't know what happened to the Rover as we made a pretty quick exit. Bit daft really as his mk2 stood out like a sore thumb, it was the only one like it in the area and had a huuuuge Billabong sticker in the back window :rolleyes: he might aswell of had his name on there.
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Hit and run eh? Naughty boys!
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Hit and run eh? Naughty boys!
I know :rolleyes: he didn't drive the car for a month or so after that then sold it and bought a renault laguna :sad:
He's back in a dub now :cool: even if it is a really slow one, although maybe thats best :grin:
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Bragging about racing on the roads and driving like dicks eh? oooh gosh thats so clever.
People like you are the reason I keep a claw hammer under my seat & a can of brake fluid in the glove box.
You want to go fast? Take it to the track and learn what 'real' fast driving is all about, if you aren't too scared that is.
If you put others at risk then you deserve anything everything that happens to you.
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:undecided: :lipsrsealed:
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Id make holes in traffic, Cut drivers up to make them swerve into the path of sombody i was racing.
Really! Thats just stooopid, i hope you dont do it anymore! If you ever did that to me or my wife and child id seriously come after you and im a very very mild tempered person. Thats just plain stupid. Id be ashamed to even admit it!
oh yes it is very stupid. Ill even put my hands up and admit it. When my 1.6 blew up i changed my ways. Now started Track driving. Have all the equipment and my cars well on its way to being a true Track day car.
Bragging about racing on the roads and driving like dicks eh? oooh gosh thats so clever.
People like you are the reason I keep a claw hammer under my seat & a can of brake fluid in the glove box.
You want to go fast? Take it to the track and learn what 'real' fast driving is all about, if you aren't too scared that is.
If you put others at risk then you deserve anything everything that happens to you.
At what stage was there any bragging involved? Most of the regulars here know how much of a hard time i got for my racing in the past. I still attend a street racing meet every thursday but i rairly race. and when i do its only the odd drag race. Nothing like i used too. Re-read what i put. I was given a real hard to for it and eventually (after th death of friends and other troubles) I quit and ive started doing track days. (well one so far but its a start, i raced the rockingham infield national circuit at the beginning of last june). I wrote what i put to show how much of an IDIOT i used to be. But how people cna change. I hope you now this has cleared that up :smiley:
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I apologise - should not let idiots bait me. :angry:
When I drive I often have my kids in the car. I rely on my car to get to work so I can pay my mortgage and fix up my crappy old golf. So when some toerag jeopardises the safety of my kids, or their financial security, you'll have to excuse me if I get the urge to take matters into my own hands.
Like everyone else i enjoy driving quickly when the road conditions safely allow it. There is a big difference between this & the kind of behaviour glorified elsewhere.
If you continue to race on the streets you are, in my opinion, moronic scum. End of.
Feel free to disagree or whatever. Thats how I feel.
anyway I'll bail out of this thread now so y'all can carry on slating yellowgti. :lipsrsealed:
DD :cool:
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Bragging about racing on the roads and driving like dicks eh? oooh gosh thats so clever.
People like you are the reason I keep a claw hammer under my seat & a can of brake fluid in the glove box.
You want to go fast? Take it to the track and learn what 'real' fast driving is all about, if you aren't too scared that is.
If you put others at risk then you deserve anything everything that happens to you.
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Fully, whole heartedly agree with you.
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I apologise - should not let idiots bait me. :angry:
When I drive I often have my kids in the car. I rely on my car to get to work so I can pay my mortgage and fix up my crappy old golf. So when some toerag jeopardises the safety of my kids, or their financial security, you'll have to excuse me if I get the urge to take matters into my own hands.
Like everyone else i enjoy driving quickly when the road conditions safely allow it. There is a big difference between this & the kind of behaviour glorified elsewhere.
If you continue to race on the streets you are, in my opinion, moronic scum. End of.
Feel free to disagree or whatever. Thats how I feel.
anyway I'll bail out of this thread now so y'all can carry on slating yellowgti. :lipsrsealed:
DD :cool:
Fair enaugh. I respect your views :cool:
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Fair enaugh. I respect your views :cool:
Fair play geez...
DD :cool:
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:laugh: Sometimes i really regret reading certain threads.......baring in mind i have insured a large number of members on here.....dodgy mods, street racing, hit and runs arrrghhh!! I really hope my boss never looks on here!! :grin: :laugh:
DD & Fielder - how refreshing to see 2 people who so strongly disagree on a subject just agree to disagree and respect each others views! :cool:
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DD & Fielder - how refreshing to see 2 people who so strongly disagree on a subject just agree to disagree and respect each others views! :cool:
everybody in da room ... can you feel the love shine thru'? :laugh:
at the end of the day , opinions are like ar$ehole$ - everybodies got one, and all they produce is wind and...
DD :cool:
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Yea DD and Fielder Stop!
Lets get back to slagging of the Numpty yellowgti.
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People like you are the reason I keep a claw hammer under my seat & a can of brake fluid in the glove box.
I agree with your opinions on street racing and having some toerag ram into you while you've got kids in the car etc (or anytime even), but using that sh1t to sort someone out is only going to see you in one place and a visit from your kids once a fortnight. :huh:
Anyway, back to cutting springs. :laugh:
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:laugh: Sometimes i really regret reading certain threads.......baring in mind i have insured a large number of members on here.....dodgy mods, street racing, hit and runs arrrghhh!! I really hope my boss never looks on here!! :grin: :laugh:
Don't worry about my brother he's not insured with you and I'd never put my beloved dub in that sort of danger :wink: