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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Sean G on 15 December 2018, 10:42
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With the Mk8 coming next year and the Gti expected early 2020 when would you expect to see further discounts or specification enhancements or better finance/PCP deals on the MK 7.5 GTI
I would like to change my wife’s 2016 GTD in June 2019 but think I might have to hold off until later in the year to see if there are even better deals than the current 15% discount I’m seeing.
Won’t be going mad on spec just Brecias,keyless and a rear camera will be all that’s needed
Dealer advises that a current lead time of 3 months is possible now that the WLTP is sorted - is this realistic
Any input appreciated
Cheers
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Hi
I was advised that there is a 2%+ price increase on the 19th Dec 18? so any extra discount may only include this if you was to wait.
We order on 24/11/18 with a build week of 21/01/19 so we expect it to be delivered mid to late Feb with a March reg So about 3 months.
Paid £27859 inc a £1500 FDA for an order of £33272 so circa 16.3% discount, hoping for an increased FDA in Q1 to £2000 but we think thats more likely to come in Q2, but fingers crossed.....
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Would you know what sort of discount can be had without finance? I got 12%, wonder if I could have got a little more.i also note that the configurator now quoting price without delivery fees, presumably in anticipation of a price rise
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Would you know what sort of discount can be had without finance? I got 12%, wonder if I could have got a little more.i also note that the configurator now quoting price without delivery fees, presumably in anticipation of a price rise
The discounts tend to be lower these days if you pay straight cash, as you don't qualify for the deposit contribution. Best to take out the finance and then clear it immediately upon receiving your car.
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Thanks. I suppose that’s one reason why almost all discussion is about finance deals
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Would you know what sort of discount can be had without finance? I got 12%, wonder if I could have got a little more.i also note that the configurator now quoting price without delivery fees, presumably in anticipation of a price rise
The discounts tend to be lower these days if you pay straight cash, as you don't qualify for the deposit contribution. Best to take out the finance and then clear it immediately upon receiving your car.
Did that with this this car and also my own Clubsport S
Wonder how long they will continue to allow this to happen as it seem even from posts on here a lot of people do this
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Regarding lead times , I ordered 7/10 , car is in uk and I hope to get next week- 11 weeks from order
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Prices always go up at Christmas time.
The VWFS deposit contribution bounces up and down from a pathetic £500 right up to I believe £2000. Just depends on how hard they are trying to win business at that moment in time...
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There is a 1.5% price increase from next Weds
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I've been told today all GTI variants will increase by £690???
Have VW had another price increase this year already, as just over 2% seems relatively low to me?
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Yes, there was an increase in May, from £30,475 (12/17 price) to £30,585 for GTI PP Manual.
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Thanks for the replies just need to time the change right and get the best deal
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Keyless, lane assist and reversing camera now standard.
Price increase tomorrow morning, likely to be 2-300 I'm told
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Keyless, lane assist and reversing camera now standard.
Price increase tomorrow morning, likely to be 2-300 I'm told
I’d have spec’d keyless and reversing camera anyway
So for £200- £300 in the price increase that’s a bonus with lane assist thrown in
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Keyless, lane assist and reversing camera now standard.
Price increase tomorrow morning, likely to be 2-300 I'm told
Surprised they've thrown the keyless in with all the bad press it's been getting of late.
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Keyless, lane assist and reversing camera now standard.
Price increase tomorrow morning, likely to be 2-300 I'm told
Surprised they've thrown the keyless in with all the bad press it's been getting of late.
Wouldn't want it personally, but it does seem to be standard on lot's of higher end VAG trim levels these days. Was standard on the Mk7 for a while before the Mk7.5 came out...
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Keyless, lane assist and reversing camera now standard.
Price increase tomorrow morning, likely to be 2-300 I'm told
Surprised they've thrown the keyless in with all the bad press it's been getting of late.
I'd get that deleted for sure.
Of other two, the camera I doubt I'd ever look at and the lane assist would probably get turned off after five minutes because its bound to be annoying as hell.
Yeah, thanks VW...
Why not free metallic paint or NavPro or DynAudio - you know, things people actually want...
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Have Keyless on the current GTD and over here we don’t have the same issues with cars being stolen with Keyless entry - not to say it couldn’t happen
The car will have Gap insurance on it as I do on all our cars so will have some piece of mind even it were to go
Keys are kept in a Faraday pouch and have additional security in place also
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VW Keyless and what they put on other VAG cars are not always the same. My Audi A4 has 'keyless' but it does not unlock the doors (it just allows the engine start button to work once the key is present inside the vehicle). Thats the key difference (groan) - on a Golf 'keyless' allows the doors to be opened once the key (or the signal from the key) is within close proximity the car - highly undesirable and a significant factor in car crime IMHO.
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VW Keyless and what they put on other VAG cars are not always the same. My Audi A4 has 'keyless' but it does not unlock the doors (it just allows the engine start button to work once the key is present inside the vehicle). Thats the key difference (groan) - on a Golf 'keyless' allows the doors to be opened once the key (or the signal from the key) is within close proximity the car - highly undesirable and a significant factor in car crime IMHO.
Apparently, you can switch keyless entry off on the new Polo so it works like your Audi A4. If you use the key fob ‘lock’ button to lock the car conventionally as you would with a non-keyless car, it disables the keyless entry functionality and you have to use ‘unlock’ button on the key fob to gain entry (engine starting is still via the start button).
Keyless entry isn’t permanently disabled though - you need to use the key fob each time you lock the car; no real hardship though as you’d do this anyway if you didn’t have keyless.
Does the mk7.5 Golf wth keyless have this functionality so owners can deactivate keyless entry if they want to?
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Keyless was a poor electronic design to start with. Having something transmitting all the time is simply stupid and as people now know results with battery needing change every year. At least merc has now cottoned on to what a decent E&E R&D engineer would have from the start and costs pence to add to the cost of a key. The new merc keys only transmit when they sense movement and for 5min after movement has stopped. Meening that it makes it harder to relay a signal from your home at night for example with the added benefit of much longer battery life.
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VW Keyless and what they put on other VAG cars are not always the same. My Audi A4 has 'keyless' but it does not unlock the doors (it just allows the engine start button to work once the key is present inside the vehicle). Thats the key difference (groan) - on a Golf 'keyless' allows the doors to be opened once the key (or the signal from the key) is within close proximity the car - highly undesirable and a significant factor in car crime IMHO.
On your Audi, as with BMs for some years, the basic version is they have a button start rather than key with remote unlocking and then they charge you extra for full comfort access. I always thought having to get the key out to unlock but not needing it to start was a PITA to be honest.
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Disadvantages of keyless;
Car more likely to be nicked
Where do you put your keys? (yes, I know the Golf has many cubby holes but mine are all accounted for)
Runs down battery (possibly?)
When pulled into the driveway (and have managed to find my keys)....now is the darn thing off or on?
Costs money (option or increase in RRP)
Advantages of keyless;
Eh......eh..........
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It's not more likely to be nicked if you take some minor precautions - Faraday Pouch.
Keep your keys in your pocket - why would you want something rattling around while your driving.
Runs down what battery? In the fob? So does a non keyless fob.
What's off or on? Your car? Maybe shouldn't be allowed out if you can't tell your car is off or on.
Only costs you money if you spec it.
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McM;
Having to buy a Faraday pouch - nor exactly an advantage.
Don't like anything in my pockets, esp when driving. Inevitably get chucked on pax seat and end up goodness knows where.
Battery - car battery (based on what others were saying above - no personal evidence hence my '?')
Currently have stop/start & keyless so yes, I do have to think about whether I've switched the engine off. I'm usually distracted by trying to find my darn keys. (I'm often in command of a larger, much heavier a/craft that happens to be keyless as well so I think I'm ok to be let out now and again - only just).
Money? yes, that was my point.
So what IS the advantage of keyless?
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So what IS the advantage of keyless?
Don't you know how much effort it requires to pull a key out of your pocket to press a button to unlock your car and then put the said key into an ignition and turn it to start the car!?!
Yep, absolutely no advantages to keyless. Just a gimmick.
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neepy - glad someone agrees with me. Thought it was just me....
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I do think it is handy. Not the basic version but the full keyless version. I'm personally happy with a key but the missus has a Toyota with keyless and works fine and don't worry about the key, it just stays in your pocket, not rocket science really. One thing though with keyless though is you don't get to take advantage of the coming homes lights at this time year as nothing lights up until you grab the door handle.
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I'd rather not have the keyless. A friend of mine has twice had postman knock on his door to tell him his car was running on the drive after he though hed turned it off but it was the stop start that had cut the engine.
Saying that it was a ford
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Dre1973 - perhaps I'm not as doddery as mcmaddy thinks I am then......(incidentally mine was a Ford too).
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This thread seems to have turned into a debate about keylessness.
I would prefer the Tesla idea of using your mobile phone to gain access. I don't want to carry yet another card about my person. Or am I missing something?
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Dre1973 - perhaps I'm not as doddery as mcmaddy thinks I am then......(incidentally mine was a Ford too).
Complacency is the problem here. You presume it's off as it has been the 1000 times prior. That minute of lapsed concentration ooops hahaha
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If your car is still running or engine is off due to stop start and you try and lock the car it won't allow you to lock it so you'll then know if something's wrong. In fact I'm sure if you open the door with stop start in operation it beeps at you.
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If your car is still running or engine is off due to stop start and you try and lock the car it won't allow you to lock it so you'll then know if something's wrong. In fact I'm sure if you open the door with stop start in operation it beeps at you.
He has been known to be deaf and blind as well lol.
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:grin: :grin:
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No quick way to deactivate it on the Golf - although sounds like good sense has prevailed re the new Polo.
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It's not more likely to be nicked if you take some minor precautions - Faraday Pouch.
Keep your keys in your pocket - why would you want something rattling around while your driving.
Runs down what battery? In the fob? So does a non keyless fob.
What's off or on? Your car? Maybe shouldn't be allowed out if you can't tell your car is off or on.
Only costs you money if you spec it.
Keyfob battery as constant transmission of signal with keylessthe key is constantly transmitting the signal its why they normally need batteries every year. This is not the case with the immobiliser section of a normal key transmitter as the inductive loop on the ignition barrel energise the coil in the key and charges a cap that then powers the transmiter that sends the signal back. The battery in a normal key only powers the remote section for locking and isnt transmitting until a button is pressed thats why the battery lasts far longer.