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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 how to guides + info => Topic started by: Wazzzer on 08 February 2009, 19:01
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Right then here goes my "how-to" for the Joey modded projector Depo lights.
First of all I just wanna say I take no responsibilty for how yours turn out if you follow my guide. This is how I did mine and they turned out ok, it's just a matter of taking your time. This isn't a mod you can do in 5 mins, it takes around 2 hours to actually get the light split apart so please budget for this.
I decided I needed to fit a set of projectors if I was to keep my HIDs. My main problem with the HIDs in normal lamps was the fact you can't see the full beam or front fogs with them fitted due to the scattered light output. This would have been an easy task if I still had standard headlights but I had Anniversary lights and wanted to keep this look. Depo make smoked versions of the projector lights but only with the single angel eye fitted, but angel eyes aren't for me.
So I ordered a set of the chrome lights and decided to "Joey" them (quite a worrying thought when you've just spent £120 on them!)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/14012009444.jpg)
A pic of what I am trying to achieve, the Depo light compared to the Anniversary.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/14012009442.jpg)
First of all you need to remove the clips that help the lenses bond to the light unit when the glue is setting. Make sure you keep hold of these as you'll need them later.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/23012009465.jpg)
Next was to put them in the oven (this is the worrying part). Remove all the bulbs and the backing plate fromt he lights, the less in there to go wrong the better.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/23012009467.jpg)
I put it on a very low heat, around gas mark 4. You don't need a raging flame in there, just enough to melt the glue a bit. Too hot and the glue will be really stringy and you also risk melting the plastic casing of the lights. I left them in for around 2 mins, but just check them to see how they are doing every minute and you can't go wrong
next get yourself something blunt like the handle end of a spoon and start picking away at the glue.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/23012009468.jpg)
Eventually you'll be able to get past the glue and begin to lever the lens away. Be VERY careful at this point though as levering too hard will crack the lens. Don't be afraid to give up and put them back in the oven to soften the glue again, as I said before this will take a fair bit of time.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/23012009469.jpg)
After an hour or so I managed to free the lens from the light unit. Below is a pic of the lens, surround and the rest of the light unit.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/23012009470.jpg)
Now you need to clean out the rest of the glue from the groove in the plastic part of the light unit. I found a heat gun and a screwdriver to be really good for this, just don't use the heat gun on full chat or again it will melt something.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/23012009471.jpg)
and that's it for now with the lgiht unit and glass. Put them somewhere safe so little hands can't get hold of them lol.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/16012009449.jpg)
Next up is the surround that makes the lights look tinted. You need to rub them down with some 400 grade wet and dry. Anything more will be too harsh and scratch the surface of them. Once they're done they should look something like this
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/24012009476.jpg)
Now hang them up in your choice of spraying location. I recommend Halfords Satin black for them, the gloss will just look too shiny and the matt doesn't have any shine to it at all. The OEM Anni lights look like they are Satin but ultimately the choice is yours.
I sprayed them with 3 coats of paint, leaving a few hours in between each coat. A bit OTT but I wanted to make sure I had good coverage and hadn't missed any.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/25012009478.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/18012009456.jpg)
After you're happy that the surrounds are completely dry it's time to put the lights back together. Slot the surrounds back into the units carefully and make sure everything lines up properly. They have tabs on them that fit into the plastic on the units to aid this.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/21012009460.jpg)
Next the lens, but first of all clean it. You can't guarantee you din't touch the inside of the lens and you'll kick yourself if there are fingerprints there after it's glued together!
I used some bodykit glue I had kicking about to glue them together again, it's stong stuff and stays slightly flexible rather than being rock solid. Only a fiver off ebay too but again the choice is yours.
Fill the groove of the unit with the glue, then push the lens on firmly. Grab the clips you took off at the start and use them to make sure the lens is all the way home. Scrape off any excess, then leave to dry overnight.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/26012009495.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/26012009497.jpg)
They should look like this when finished
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/22012009456.jpg)
Fit as you would any other light, then stand back and admire the new look!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/26012009499.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/26012009500.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/WesRS/27012009505.jpg)
Any questions please ask away
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nice guide - worthy of entry to the Info & Maintenance section :nerd:
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get it in there rhys
thats a hell of a guide will b trying that meself i hav spare headlights here
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I'm after a new passenger light as mine steams up :@ but once I've replaced it I'm going to give the old one a go with this guide. Thanks mate.
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get it in there rhys
thats a hell of a guide will b trying that meself i hav spare headlights here
will be going in shortly - going to leave it up here for a day so more people see it :smiley:
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i need to know where to get those projector lights from if anyone would like to shed some light on it for me
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Ebay
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yes mate ebay, mine were from this place
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK4-98-03-R32-STYLE-CHROME-HEADLIGHTS_W0QQitemZ220353709574QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item220353709574&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318
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I'm after a new passenger light as mine steams up
one of the reasons I've got headlight protectors fitted to mine, i saw an R32 the other day with a chipped and steamed up cluster :cry: :cry:
The Joey mod looks good, amazing how big a difference a small amount of paint can make :afro:
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I'm after a new passenger light as mine steams up
one of the reasons I've got headlight protectors fitted to mine, i saw an R32 the other day with a chipped and steamed up cluster :cry: :cry:
The Joey mod looks good, amazing how big a difference a small amount of paint can make :afro:
Genuine lights gp for about £50 on ebay. :o
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looks like il be adding another job to the list :rolleyes:
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just put the headlights in the oven andand the glue does not wont to melt the glass and plastic r red hot.
any ideas anyone. :undecided:
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rite nearly melted the plastic and glass tonite and still the glue will not melt.
well puzzled helppppp :shocked:
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Just tried on my oem light and no joy
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OEM lights are very hard to do, mine are the Depo's don't forget so the glue is different...
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OEM lights are very hard to do, mine are the Depo's don't forget so the glue is different...
so what is the best way to get the oem glue off i nearly melted the lights its that tuff :cry:
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I'm after a new passenger light as mine steams up
one of the reasons I've got headlight protectors fitted to mine, i saw an R32 the other day with a chipped and steamed up cluster :cry: :cry:
The Joey mod looks good, amazing how big a difference a small amount of paint can make :afro:
Genuine lights gp for about £50 on ebay. :o
id rather have the originals tbh
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original R32 lights? You have deeper pockets than me then lol
Also they don't come tinted so it was a no go for me
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original R32 lights? You have deeper pockets than me then lol
Also they don't come tinted so it was a no go for me
mine were factory fit :cool:
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Yeah I know you lucky bugger
I found a set on a Golf in the local dealers which I tried to blag but they weren't having it lol
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theres a pair of 32 lights on bay atm 450 quid ouch if a stone chips them!!
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That is a top guide Wazzer.
Has any company started selling ready smoked lights yet?
Sorry lads i'm a VW & mk4 virgin, my knowledge is far from what I intend it to be on this car.
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just seen this, joeying may be a little easier now!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-4-IV-MK4-97-04-HEADLAMP-LIGHT-GLASS-CLEAR-LH-/170494354223?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27b241632f
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That is a top guide Wazzer.
Has any company started selling ready smoked lights yet?
Sorry lads i'm a VW & mk4 virgin, my knowledge is far from what I intend it to be on this car.
Much appreciated :smiley:
Depo sell the full black version but not the anni style
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Don't be fooled by this video, it took a few hard hits but when you try and pry them apart they crack very easily
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hm4bKk2E4k&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hm4bKk2E4k&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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Lol that video is funny
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you'd think they would break first hit, I was hitting them quite hard!
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hi .. :cool: im going to be doing this to my motor next week end , i want to fit some angle eyes at the same time , will this be mot legal ?? also any more tips on removing the lens ... :grin:
cheers shaun
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hi .. :cool: im going to be doing this to my motor next week end , i want to fit some angle eyes at the same time , will this be mot legal ?? also any more tips on removing the lens ... :grin:
cheers shaun
A little tip, sick some strong adhesive tape to the lense totally covering it. So when hitting it the glass doesn't drop into the headlight. Maybe have the head light upside down too when hitting it so no glass goes into headlight.
I have not done this mod my self yet but want too :).
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Glad to see this is still being useful. :smiley:
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Some pictures on a silver mk4 for you all
They look 100x better than chrome and it gives them a nice tinted sort of look rather than the alternative all black !
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab25/yellowmgzr/Mobile%20Uploads/Golf%20vs%20Leon/F76A6386-8DE6-4044-96FF-1076488CEF9E-5747-00000508F922A9C8.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab25/yellowmgzr/Mobile%20Uploads/Golf%20vs%20Leon/4754469B-7C12-439D-A1D4-AAEEABF6714F-5747-00000508FFCE7332.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab25/yellowmgzr/Mobile%20Uploads/Golf%20vs%20Leon/D2B1D52C-FF50-4B6D-A404-337C9860E02E-5747-00000509064480D1.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab25/yellowmgzr/Mobile%20Uploads/Golf%20vs%20Leon/BB5D01FB-C22F-451B-932A-20E075B39910-5747-000005090CD90231.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab25/yellowmgzr/Mobile%20Uploads/Golf%20vs%20Leon/921FDD3E-9919-43DD-860F-E875D558517E-5747-00000509164F8268.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab25/yellowmgzr/Mobile%20Uploads/Golf%20vs%20Leon/AEC4EBF7-F142-4AD3-AD42-9D23A0ED1BCE-5747-000005091CB50A7F.jpg)