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Offline asif

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What miles did your clutch go?
« on: 30 July 2009, 08:57 »
Just a quickie for some feedback, So as it states what miles was your car on when your clutch went?

Did you get any tell tale signs it was going? If so what were they?

How much did you pay? and for what parts i.e just clutch or clutch and flywheel? Or any other parts that got fooked in the process?
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Offline Kerrse

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Re: What miles did your clutch go?
« Reply #1 on: 30 July 2009, 11:40 »
Still got the original clutch car has done 97000 had the reamp done at 92000

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Re: What miles did your clutch go?
« Reply #2 on: 30 July 2009, 16:43 »
I'm on about 88k now and my clutch is on the way out  :cry:
I had a Revo remap done about 2 years ago and have done 16k ish on it before I got any signs.

My clutch hasn't completely gone yet, but if I put the engine under load it slips, so the revs go up but the car doesn't pick up much speed.  So I'm driving like a little old lady at the moment in order to make it last until I can get it sorted, which should hopefully be pretty soon.

I've not got any quotes yet but from what I've read (mainly on here) it's gonna be just shy of a grand to get it replaced with a sachs uprated clutch including labour.

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Re: What miles did your clutch go?
« Reply #3 on: 30 July 2009, 16:51 »
103k now, remapped for almost 25k and still fine (touch wood) its on the original clutch aswell  :smiley:
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Re: What miles did your clutch go?
« Reply #4 on: 01 August 2009, 18:44 »
At mine is about to go soon, I'm been finding out all I can and stumbled upon this article which gives a pretty comprehensive overview of VM TDI clutches, signs of wear, SMF vs DMF, etc.

Thought it would probably be of interest to anyone reading this post, so here you are:

http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/clutchfaq.htm

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Re: What miles did your clutch go?
« Reply #5 on: 15 December 2009, 02:02 »
Again I know this is an old topic but hoping somebody can help. Would the below clutch fit a Mk 4 Golf GT TDi?

Cheers,

Mike

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLKSWAGEN-CORRADO-GOLF-PASSAT-VR6-FAST-ROAD-CLUTCH_W0QQitemZ280438213176QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item414b6b8a38

Mk4 VW TDI, 1998-2005 new beetle, 1999.5-2003 jetta, 1999-2006 golf

Stock clutch ALH engine TDI came with 2 different clutches, both are solid hub and used with a DMF.
1998-2000 cars used a 220mm Luk clutch, stock PP is VW# 028 141 025 p, clutch is # 028 141 036 L. 
2000-2003 cars used a 228mm Sachs clutch, stock PP is # 038 141 025 d, clutch is # 038 141 031 h or 038 131 032 dx . 
Model year 2000 cars may have either clutch but they probably have the sachs clutch. 

The Luk clutch/pressure plate is not the same clutch used in the VW 1.8T gas engine but they look similar.  The 1.8T engine 220mm PP is #06a 141 025 e, the 1.8T clutch is #06a 141 031 d.  The 1.8T engine also used a 225mm clutch kit.   The Luk TDI clutch can hold more torque (about 250 ft-lbs) than the Sachs TDI clutch (about 190 ft lbs) before slipping.  These suggested torque limits are conservative and on the low end, some can go higher without slipping.  A power chip alone may be enough to cause the later clutches to slip, depending on the specific driver, car mods, power curve, etc.  Your car may be slightly different.

Clutch fork is VW# 02j 131 719 c, clutch fork spring is #012 131 741, clutch pivot ball pin is #02a 141 777, release bearing is #02a 131 165 a, pressure plate bolts (quantity:12) are #n 907 253 01, flywheel bolts (m10x1x22,3) #n 906 650 0

Stronger clutch kits The 228mm vr6 clutch is a good choice but will not bolt up to your existing DMF.  The 1990-1992 VW Corrado G60 solid flywheel will fit all model years and will bolt up to the vr6 clutch and is the basic choice.  Note: you can use the vr6 clutch with a G60 flywheel but cannot use the vr6 flywheel because 6 cylinder engines use a different crankshaft bolt pattern.   The clutch kit can hold about 330 ft-lbs torque.  Clutch pedal weight will be slightly less than stock, read the full article for more details.  There are also clutch kits that use longer clutch hub springs that smooth NVH but it will not be as great as a DMF.   Also remember that you can't mix/match the valeo and sachs clutch kit with a different brand PP.  Most clutch kits include both clutch and PP anyways.

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Re: What miles did your clutch go?
« Reply #6 on: 15 December 2009, 08:47 »
only if its a 5 speed box

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Re: What miles did your clutch go?
« Reply #9 on: 15 December 2009, 12:34 »
I’ve been taking a strong interest in your derv project thread and read it through in full several times. It’s given me a few ideas of what I might want to do in the time that I own my Mk 4 derv.

In shopping for the Golf so far I’m starting to think that a TDi 130 and later getting a R-Tech remap could be the best option. I want to factor in the cost of a replacement clutch so that in the event it starts slipping, I don’t get any nasty surprises. If it had to be the cost of your Sachs Organic Clutch I would probably rather just leave it stock 130. What are my other options as I agree with you that a stock clutch replacement isn't going to be cost effective.

Cheers,

Mike