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Offline Splashalot

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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #60 on: 06 June 2022, 02:57 »

.....The Renault system is ultra modern but not yet proven, and we know all about French cars and electrics!

Must admit, that was my first thought!  I think I may take some convincing that they've fixed that.  :wink:

David25.  My GTI was a 2018 7.5 - 169kw/380nm.

Sorry, I've now read your earlier posts and can see you were comparing against your 7.5

Would you say your Mini is really as quick as Exonian's video https://youtu.be/nV3CeD3324U shows?

Probably, yes, David.  My GTI was a manual and I always launched it conservatively, so in that regard the Mini is streets ahead in instant, off the line shove.  In general city driving, also the Mini feels significantly quicker.  The response is instant, unlike the GTI's throttle mapping which could often feel delayed (esp without a pedal box controller).  I suspect that if you drove both cars everywhere on 100% throttle the Mini would still feel quicker due to that instant torque shove, but the GTI would prove a tad quicker at the very top end.  Although I've been surprised how easily the Mini dealt with ~80-130kmh HWY overtakes on a couple of occasions.  I expected it to run out of puff, but it kept pulling hard.

I also find I tend to utilise the Mini's shove more because it's so easily accessible.  I've said it many times already, but I find it addictive.

In general, the "EV or not" question is highly individual.  In our case, the Mini as a city runabout is perfect. We have home solar and it seems that I will be able to largely charge it for free for probably 8 or 9 months of the year.  That's a hell of a cost saving.  Then there's the much lower servicing and costs and hopefully much reduced repair costs.

I like the EV experience enough that I'm considering replacing our family car (Mazda 3 Astina) with another EV eventually, but not until our laughably poor charging infrastructure improves - a lot.

In short, I looked at EVs primarily for cost savings, but was won over by the driving experience.  To each their own, but as a lifelong petrol head I was, to say the least, very surprised.
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Offline david25

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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #61 on: 06 June 2022, 18:50 »
Thanks Splashalot, I'm also looking for fun factor and certainly don't want to spend > 10,000 on an "electric box". The Mini looks like the cheapest car in that regard. Good fun up to 130kmh is also relevant for the UK.
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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #62 on: 07 June 2022, 11:17 »
Enjoying your reviews on the mini splashalot and they provide good evidence for decision making. I do quite a few longer trips so think I will have to wait a bit longer for a small non-suv brick that has performance, good looks and the mileage to replace my ice. Will keep looking though.
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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #63 on: 07 June 2022, 11:56 »
The range of six small non-SUV EV’s is tested to the limit in this Carwow video - they’re each driven until their batteries run out of charge. It’s worth a watch IMHO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd2ArceiJd0

And this video is on the same theme but for larger EV’s;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg6-Vc9CSwk
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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #64 on: 08 June 2022, 12:55 »
Thanks SRGT. Further food thought-provoking material.
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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #65 on: 08 June 2022, 13:00 »
Not available just yet but VW group do have smaller stuff coming

https://youtu.be/9xzfdmpQz9w

I’m liking that, it’s so ugly it’s beautiful!
I’m sure a more conservative VW or Skoda variant will be along soonish.
Mind you, the Cupra has attitude. Hopefully the production version won’t be too dumbed down.
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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #66 on: 08 June 2022, 13:51 »
Not available just yet but VW group do have smaller stuff coming

https://youtu.be/9xzfdmpQz9w

I’m liking that, it’s so ugly it’s beautiful!
I’m sure a more conservative VW or Skoda variant will be along soonish.
Mind you, the Cupra has attitude. Hopefully the production version won’t be too dumbed down.

I really like it too :cool: and I don’t think it’s at all ugly. I’d have one.

As you say, hopefully it’s not altered too much before going into production.
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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #67 on: 08 June 2022, 14:29 »
I’ve been invited to an E-Tech preview at my local Renault dealer in July.
I’m quite keen to have a look around one.
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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #68 on: 08 June 2022, 14:33 »
I’ve been invited to an E-Tech preview at my local Renault dealer in July.
I’m quite keen to have a look around one.

I’ve been impressed by the video reviews I’ve watched. It’d be good to see one in the flesh. The quality of materials used in the cabin look to be a step up from the ID.3.

Be sure to report back if you do go along to have a look.
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Re: To EV or not to EV, that is the question....
« Reply #69 on: 08 June 2022, 18:53 »

https://www.cupraofficial.com/concept-cars/urbanrebel.html

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-official-pictures/cupra/urbanrebel/

Despite being three years out, Cupra already specs for the UrbanRebel: a 223bhp (166kW) motor should hit 0-62mph from a standstill in a healthy 6.9 seconds, and range should be 273-miles in the larger battery version. 
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