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Offline P6GTD

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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #270 on: 06 December 2021, 19:58 »
I think you have defined the direction of travel pretty well, Exonian.
Got me thinking what performance make I see around as frequently as GTIs and Rs nowadays.
Answer? Porsche.
How the world has changed.
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #271 on: 06 December 2021, 21:14 »
We’ve gone off topic here but some good points raised. I loosely work within the car industry so try to keep tabs on model specific sales figures so thought I’d drop in some data that I follow from afar.

Fundamentally, European Golf (I talk as an overall model here) sales have flopped about 40% when compared to 2019.

Why?

1) Sales of Golf 7.5 were flying when it was cut. Lots of this was down to a healthy European economy (remember that?!) and ‘run-out’ the 7.5 spec being very attractive for the price. Lots were built as stock and flooded into dealers so that VW could use up its remaining inventory.

2) Covid had an effect for natural reasons beyond the shop floor being open.The economic uncertainty and ‘working from home’ changes have meant that the demand/requirement for stock (where VW build 2000 Golfs, in one spec, in blue) has gone; company car attitudes have done a 360 and car rental firms (big players Hertz, Europcar, Avis etc.) didn’t buy new fleets in 2020 because nobody travelled. Prior to 2022, roughly 40% of Golf sales were to fleet buyers.

3) Chip issue - by far the biggest. VW has actually sold less Golfs in 2021 than during the pandemic 2020! Golf 8’s software is very chip dependant even in the most basic of specs. VW dealers aren’t even allowed to order stock any more to make way for customer deliveries being met, thus only the battle-hardened spec-listers (us!!) are buying at the moment. Wolfsburg can barely guarantee that it’ll even build these before 2023, as many (myself included) are struggling with.

4) As others have alluded to, times move on and Europeans don’t love hatchbacks like they once did. The hatchback/SUV market share was 49% : 7% in 2006 but flipped to 35% : 44% in 2022.

The caveat? The Golf is still the European best seller in 2021 and 4th best in the UK. The drop of the Ford Fiesta in the UK (which usually the run-away favourite) just shows how well the Golf has faced the wider market issues. It’ll be killed off by regulation a long time before people lose interest.





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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #272 on: 07 December 2021, 13:20 »
Very informative post Banksy  :smiley:
Lots of good info in there.
Drifted off topic here maybe but with such long wait times minds are bound to wander (and wonder?)


Got me thinking what performance make I see around as frequently as GTIs and Rs nowadays.
Answer? Porsche.
How the world has changed.


Interesting point.
Some sections of society have done very well out of the pandemic
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #273 on: 14 December 2021, 23:42 »
Wow...when did you order the Clubsport?

Feb 2021  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I ordered mine on the first week of January and have no idea where it is.

Just to bring the topic back on track and a little update.

I’ve now been told early to mid January. I responded saying “are you sure as you tell me every month that it will be next month?” And they replied “yes”. We’ll see I suppose.
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #274 on: 16 December 2021, 17:21 »

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Just to bring the topic back on track and a little update.

I’ve now been told early to mid January. I responded saying “are you sure as you tell me every month that it will be next month?” And they replied “yes”. We’ll see I suppose.
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Delivery or build week??

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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #275 on: 18 December 2021, 15:18 »


Just to bring the topic back on track and a little update.

I’ve now been told early to mid January. I responded saying “are you sure as you tell me every month that it will be next month?” And they replied “yes”. We’ll see I suppose.
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Delivery or build week??
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Delivery to dealership
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #276 on: 21 December 2021, 14:38 »
Ordered mine in February and just been told week 20 estimate for the build🙉🙉

Offline king monkey

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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #277 on: 21 December 2021, 14:52 »
Ordered mine in February and just been told week 20 estimate for the build🙉🙉

That’s unbelievable!
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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #278 on: 21 December 2021, 16:54 »
Ordered mine in February and just been told week 20 estimate for the build🙉🙉

They have been parking them part finished in a lot and they have parked yours at the back so it will be a while before they get to it... Is my guess
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Offline JRR1988

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Re: Clubsport order thread
« Reply #279 on: 21 December 2021, 23:36 »
Ordered mine in February and just been told week 20 estimate for the build🙉🙉

What country are you in?
Current and going imminently - MK7.5 GTI Performance Pack, DSG, Black

CANCELED - MK8 GTI Clubsport, Reflex Silver, 19” Adelaide Wheels, Winter Pack