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Offline Golfist

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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #160 on: 11 August 2021, 19:15 »
There is a hierarchy of dealers... Some get their orders sooner than others.

All sorts of buggery goes on...

Out of pure curiosity.. how did you come to that conclusion?
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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #161 on: 11 August 2021, 19:38 »
As I understand it, each dealer is allocated a certain amount of factory builds - usually on a quarterly basis.

Their quota of slots will depend on a variety of things - previous sales volumes against targets, model type and trim, etc resulting in a higher quota for high performing dealerships. It also helps smaller dealerships have (in theory), equal access to factory ordering in proportion to their bigger competitors stopping them squeezing smaller dealerships out of orders.

A high performing dealership might then go to VW UK and request extra capacity for orders, or might do VW UK a favour, take a batch of slow selling cars/quirky specification ones to clear them from VW UK stock and get some extra build slots for in demand tasty stuff as a reward.

Take a batch of ten solid brown rental spec Passat that have been stuck in a compound at the docks, and get an extra 2 build slots for a Golf R, for example

When you submit your order and the dealer accepts your order, you're not guaranteeing a production slot for your car; this slot depends on a few things, like

When in the dealer's order cycle the order is placed - the dealer may have used up its build allocations, so you will need to wait until the next quarter

The extras that have been requested - some options take longer to be ready for production than others
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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #162 on: 11 August 2021, 20:12 »
Now for the truth  :grin:

Dealers are allocated a monthly quota based on previous sales achievements and there annual target.

There is no separation of trim within the model quota. So if my quota was 20 Golf I could order 20 GTI edition 45’s for example.

If you place an order with a retailer that has already ordered their quota your order will remain on a wait list with that retailer till they have quota for the fact to to accept that order. This can of course be months……

Dealers who often heavily discount their cars will of course sell out of their quota sooner and as a result delivery times with dealer that participate on carwow, DTD etc often have longer lead times.

There is no option for a retailer to take 2 piece of crap Brown Passat Saloons in exchange to increase their factory quota  :grin:

Factory option  that delay cars have never been communicated to retailers for us to explain to customers. Right Mr customer of you forget about the rear camera you might get your car this decade  :laugh:

 



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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #163 on: 11 August 2021, 20:22 »
Now for the truth  :grin:

Dealers are allocated a monthly quota based on previous sales achievements and there annual target.

There is no separation of trim within the model quota. So if my quota was 20 Golf I could order 20 GTI edition 45’s for example.

If you place an order with a retailer that has already ordered their quota your order will remain on a wait list with that retailer till they have quota for the fact to to accept that order. This can of course be months……

Dealers who often heavily discount their cars will of course sell out of their quota sooner and as a result delivery times with dealer that participate on carwow, DTD etc often have longer lead times.

There is no option for a retailer to take 2 piece of crap Brown Passat Saloons in exchange to increase their factory quota  :grin:

Factory option  that delay cars have never been communicated to retailers for us to explain to customers. Right Mr customer of you forget about the rear camera you might get your car this decade  :laugh:

 :grin:

Interesting to hear straight from your side of things - I was just relaying what another new car sales manager told me last year, when he was bemoaning having to take delivery of what he considered less desirable stock (some of which had already arrived on the forecourt) in order to gain some favours with a VW regional manager for some extra in demand models
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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #164 on: 12 August 2021, 11:49 »
Now for the truth  :grin:

Dealers are allocated a monthly quota based on previous sales achievements and there annual target.

There is no separation of trim within the model quota. So if my quota was 20 Golf I could order 20 GTI edition 45’s for example.

If you place an order with a retailer that has already ordered their quota your order will remain on a wait list with that retailer till they have quota for the fact to to accept that order. This can of course be months……

Dealers who often heavily discount their cars will of course sell out of their quota sooner and as a result delivery times with dealer that participate on carwow, DTD etc often have longer lead times.

There is no option for a retailer to take 2 piece of crap Brown Passat Saloons in exchange to increase their factory quota  :grin:

Factory option  that delay cars have never been communicated to retailers for us to explain to customers. Right Mr customer of you forget about the rear camera you might get your car this decade  :laugh:

 :grin:

Interesting to hear straight from your side of things - I was just relaying what another new car sales manager told me last year, when he was bemoaning having to take delivery of what he considered less desirable stock (some of which had already arrived on the forecourt) in order to gain some favours with a VW regional manager for some extra in demand models

Was he trying to sell you a solid brown passat at the time!!!  :grin:
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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #165 on: 12 August 2021, 12:38 »
Funnily enough, yes it was some unappealing shade of base spec Passat, after enquiring about a new build Tiguan and a used Arteon - was showing me a list of new Passats he had for immediate delivery to get me off the idea of the used Arteon, and was explaining why they all had identical spec, bar choice of 1/2 colours
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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #166 on: 17 August 2021, 16:40 »
My build week has moved forward to……..week 45. How apt!
Current: Clubsport45, white, DCC.

Past: Mk5 gti blue graphite, mk6 gti carbon grey, mk6 gti edition 35 candy white, Mk7 pp gti tornado red, 2016 Audi S3 sportback, 2019 7.5 Golf R.

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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #167 on: 17 August 2021, 16:53 »
I called also.

Now showing unconfirmed build of week 44. First week of November. Previous unconfirmed build week given to me two weeks ago was week 40

I'm back on week 40 again but Still unconfirmed
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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #168 on: 17 August 2021, 19:10 »
I was told today that the wait for a standard gti is now 54 weeks. Wow.
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Re: Clubsport 45s ordered and delivery progress
« Reply #169 on: 19 August 2021, 12:40 »
I was told today that the wait for a standard gti is now 54 weeks. Wow.

There’s an item on the BBC website today on semiconductor shortages. Toyota are cutting vehicle production by 40% next month. VW have said they may have to cut output further and that they expect chip supply in Q3 to be ‘volatile and tight’.

Hopefully the 54 week lead time for a GTI makes allowance for this, otherwise 54 weeks might become a bigger number………… :shocked:

Link to BBC news item below;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58266794
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