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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: evo1986 on 22 April 2022, 23:41
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We’re refreshing our range for model year 2023 (MY23). We will continue to update this article so please keep referring to it for the latest news on MY23 timescales.
Due to the current supply restrictions and a larger order bank than the previous year, most models will open for order in SLI for MY23 on Thursday 28 April, with Volkswagen UK website and digital tools opening early-to-mid June.
The majority of the model range will start MY23 production from week 25 (week beginning 20 June).
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If someone wants to email me I can send them MY23 document to upload images of the changes
Leeevans@selectcarleasing.co.uk
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Will there be any changes to the golfs themselves?
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Hopefully they'll put some dials on the heating controls. :-)
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Hopefully they’ll put some lighting on the heating controls
No I’m afraid this isn’t happening :sad:
Anyone good at uploading things send me an email and I will send info to share
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Seriously guys, it's super easy.
I guess electric light bulbs were a challenge vs candles though... :laugh: :laugh:
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Question is... Are they removing stuff for MY23 or adding?
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New stitching and GTI logo’s in the seats :cool:
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And more processing power in the infotainment system to improve response times :smiley: but no more dials or lights :angry: .Is this German obstinacy in spite of criticism. I note that Peugeot are catching golf sales Europe wide.
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New stitching and GTI logo’s in the seats :cool:
Is that the only update? Silver lining of waiting so long for my order is I will get the updated version I guess :huh:
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And more processing power in the infotainment system to improve response times :smiley: but no more dials or lights :angry: .Is this German obstinacy in spite of criticism. I note that Peugeot are catching golf sales Europe wide.
The new Peugeot 308 and it’s Vauxhall Astra sibling look pretty good and may well tempt would-be Golf buyers, and Vauxhall’s current design language is a definite step in the right direction compared to previous generation cars IMHO. Not sure if there’s going to be a GTI version of the 308 (Vauxhall doesn’t have a performance version of the Astra) to compete against the Golf GTI, but for the non-performance Golf buyer, both the 308 and Astra may well be worthy of consideration. The new Astra also has more driver-friendly controls (less so in the 308) than the mk8 Golf which would appeal to some more mature drivers.
Depreciation may be the killer though if previous generation cars are anything to go by.
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New stitching and GTI logo’s in the seats :cool:
Well I was a bit perplexed by VW when I first saw the interior of the Mk8 GTI and noticed the lack of GTI stitched logos on the front seats. Only for it to appear as a feature of the Edition 45. Personally I was expecting GTI stitching to be standard on all Mk8 GTIs with the CS 45 getting something a little more special.
Oh well, a small welcome addition, but I agree with others that backlit heating controls would've been great.
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New stitching and GTI logo’s in the seats :cool:
Well I was a bit perplexed by VW when I first saw the interior of the Mk8 GTI and noticed the lack of GTI stitched logos on the front seats. Only for it to appear as a feature of the Edition 45. Personally I was expecting GTI stitching to be standard on all Mk8 GTIs with the CS 45 getting something a little more special.
Oh well, a small welcome addition, but I agree with others that backlit heating controls would've been great.
Sat in my first MK 8 GTI at weekend and liked the looks, no problem there and even on sitting in it was ok with the screen arrangement aesthetically when did not think would be (though did not navigate it in anyway) but the bit that struggled with was that spartan center area, would personally really miss the DSG lever, in looks and the feeling of engagement it gives you, it also is nicely engineered as a center piece.
Think VW do need to come back to center more and add some more dials and levers, as going the Tesla way is way too off center for me.
Overall liked it much more than thought, but little too spartan for me personally.
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I originally thought that about the gear lever too, and thought I would have preferred one, HOWEVER….
Today my car has been in for a new antenna, I was given a Passat estate DSG as a courtesy car, it was a 71 reg and is basically a 7.5 golf interior without the digital cockpit… it felt so old fashioned after getting used to the golf 8. There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with it and you’ll never miss what you’ve not had, but it did make me appreciate how things have moved on.
The thing I find most annoying on the 8 is not what’s missing from the centre, it’s what’s there…. the AC vents, I find them too low down and a little tricky to get the correct angle and the air flow seems so aggressive. I just get them set how I like them after 5 days of little tweaks, then my missus gets in on a Saturday and adjusts them :rolleyes:
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Hi Lee
Dropped you an email and I am happy to give uploading a go to get the MY changes on the forum
thanks
Andy
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Looking at the new options for Golf 8 MY23 I see the following:
WJA: GTI performance pack for GTI Clubsport.
Is this not available in the UK market?
I see it available for Irish market as an option for Clubsport and standard on the Clubsport 45.
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With thanks to Lee for info, here is the GTI MY23 update (along with other Golf update news).
(https://i.postimg.cc/wM7qdLnC/MY23-Golf-Pg1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6HVshJw)
(https://i.postimg.cc/90KWXzhr/MY23-Golf-Pg2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RVJSs17f/MY23-Golf-Pg3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykBCWZrY)
(https://i.postimg.cc/y6b6ypZs/MY23-Golf-Pg4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kDWdncsp)
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With thanks to Lee here is the info on GTI Seats you have been waiting for:
(https://i.postimg.cc/FskSyL1C/GTI-Seats.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hmm, the steering wheel already has red stitching, so its just the GTI badge on the seats.
The "high gloss" on the centre console sounds good, should help make that area of the centre console look a bit more premium (but also very scratch prone). Should be a simple retrofit too if you wanted it...
And if I read that right, lane assist / side assist will be optional rather than standard?
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Ha ha. I knew someone would get excited and think Lane Assist was on the option list.
Sorry to disappoint you but look again at page 1 Golf 8 standard specification.
They have added lane assist with rear traffic assist and exit warning as standard. Sorry
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Is the performance pack on the clubsport options, going to be the same as the current R performance pack? My car is ordered and due Jan next year! I’m concerned now it will be built with the standard rear GTI spoiler same as the R when you don’t order the performance pack. Be pretty pissed off if that is the case and if confirmed will pull my order as I have been told already I can’t change any specs!
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Is the performance pack on the clubsport options, going to be the same as the current R performance pack? My car is ordered and due Jan next year! I’m concerned now it will be built with the standard rear GTI spoiler same as the R when you don’t order the performance pack. Be pretty pissed off if that is the case and if confirmed will pull my order as I have been told already I can’t change any specs!
Id say it's the same as the "Racing Package" option offered here in Ireland on MY22 Clubsports, or something similar
Racing Package for GTI Clubsport. 19”
Scottsdale alloy wheels with 235/35 R19
tyres, Akrapovič Titanium exhaust system and
top speed delimited to 270km/h.
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Would have loved the Akrapovic exhaust!
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I know it's not GTI related, but deletion of the curtain airbags as std on lower spec models and making them a paid option is appalling. Chip shortage or not, there is no excuse for that. None.
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I know it's not GTI related, but deletion of the curtain airbags as std on lower spec models and making them a paid option is appalling. Chip shortage or not, there is no excuse for that. None.
I think the curtain airbag is still standard on Life and Style models - it’s listed as part of new standard spec under 6C2 in the items posted by @AndyGTI; Front Side Airbag, Curtain Airbag and Centre Airbag in the front of the car’s cabin. The Rear Side Airbag has been dropped from standard spec though and is now an extra cost option. I agree that removing an item of standard safety equipment and making it a paid for option is very poor. If VW were looking to cut costs, there must be items of non safety-related equipment they could have deleted to achieve the necessary cost savings.
I wonder if deleting an item of safety equipment will adversely affect the Golfs NCAP safety rating? When Renault removed a head and thorax airbag from the Zoe EV, that action - along with the Zoe not having AEB - resulted in a zero star NCAP safety rating.
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Yes, sorry, I was unclear. I meant the rear curtain airbag (as per Zoe etc).
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Does anyone buy a car by looking at ncap ratings? Or even understand what they mean?
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Does anyone buy a car by looking at ncap ratings? Or even understand what they mean?
NCAP rating is highly unlikely to be the sole consideration for anyone buying a car. However, I’d say it’ll be one of the factors that safety conscious car buyers are very likely to take into consider and may influence their purchase decision, especially if a car they’re considering will regularly be used to carry a young family in.
Given the choice of two similar cars (spec, performance, build quality, equipment levels, price point) - one with an excellent or very good NCAP rating and the other rated as zero by NCAP - I know which one would get my vote.
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Oh I agree, but unlike when NCAP first came out, its not something OEM's push to the front, because much like crash helmets, everything pretty much is top rated - so you don't really look...
I've got proactive passenger protection on my GTI.... I didn't spec it because my car was from stock... not even sure wtf it does tbh.
I don't think the GTI/Clubby/R has side curtain airbags though without optioning it.
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Agree with Fred.
I remember Volvo were huge on this back on the '80's and '90's, safety equipment and crash test ratings were a huge differentiator for them. You'd even see stickers like "Airbag" and "SIP Protection" on the boot lids of the cars back then! Ford too made a huge deal of passenger side airbags being standard.
These days you pretty much expect any modern car to have more airbags than a bouncy castle and a very good crash rating, so I'm not sure there's much of a differentiator anymore in this regard from one car to another in a buyers mind.
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I certainly look at NCAP ratings before buying. But bought the Mini anyway!
Since witnessing a distressing side impact from a driver running a red light, side and curtain airbags are an absolute must for me. I've had a number of near misses with red light runners.
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New stitching and GTI logo’s in the seats :cool:
Does anyone know when these changes will actually make it into production? My car now has a build week of 26 but not sure if it will be MY22 or 23.
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New stitching and GTI logo’s in the seats :cool:
Does anyone know when these changes will actually make it into production? My car now has a build week of 26 but not sure if it will be MY22 or 23.
Historically, MY changes are incorporated into vehicle production from build week 22, so if this is still the case then you should get the changes. If your build week gets moved back, then that increases the likelihood of you getting these (minor cosmetic) changes.
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This might be the most visible MY23 change. It’s the Golf R “20th anni” edition. Note all the gloss black trim in the centre console.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5tLRZHJx/B648297-E-96-A1-4721-BCC6-35212-EF33328.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I was just about to come and add to this post but you beat me to it! Interesting that the R ‘20’ (wonder how many kept those style of number plates from when the mk6 came out…) also has real carbon fibre on the dash and doors. I don’t think that the regular GTI will ever get this but shows a greater level of attention being paid to the Golf 8 interior. The gloss is a nice touch (all GTIs will get this) and will be familiar to 7/7.5 owners. Microfibre cloth sales about to skyrocket
Here’s another image. I wonder if the phone flap in the centre console is now gloss black too? Hard to tell
The Golf R ‘20th Anniversary 2002 - 2022’. Delivered to you by 2024!
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1rnKrxJ/EB252344-FCDE-4868-B9-F9-7-FF731312916.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKsm2ysg)
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This might be the most visible MY23 change. It’s the Golf R “20th anni” edition. Note all the gloss black trim in the centre console.
Personally I’m not a fan of glossy piano black trim in areas that are likely to subjected to a fair degree of hand contact, such as a centre console. IMHO you’d be likely to be fighting a losing battle keeping it free of finger marks, not to mention it’ll be a magnet for dust, swirls and scratches.
I was just about to come and add to this post but you beat me to it! Interesting that the R ‘20’ also has real carbon fibre on the dash and doors. I don’t think that the regular GTI will ever get this but shows a greater level of attention being paid to the Golf 8 interior. The gloss is a nice touch (all GTIs will get this) and will be familiar to 7/7.5 owners. Microfibre cloth sales about to skyrocket
I do really like the real carbon fibre trim across the dash. I’ve there’s another picture doing the rounds that shows the insert strip in the door cards is also carbon fibre :cool:
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2xKfRgN/3-CBA7701-9256-473-A-B87-D-B79-CFA4780-DC.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I even quite like the blue alloys on the white car;
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZYrn1Rc0/9-A4778-BE-C466-4-B90-BB80-3-BC3-E7-CCE433.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/volkswagen_golf_r_20_years_rear_side.jpg?itok=1uGLb0UM)
Blue wheels anyone?
Also more power for the R!
£50k..
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This might be the most visible MY23 change. It’s the Golf R “20th anni” edition. Note all the gloss black trim in the centre console.
Personally I’m not a fan of glossy piano black trim in areas that are likely to subjected to a fair degree of hand contact, such as a centre console. IMHO you’d be likely to be fighting a losing battle keeping it free of finger marks, not to mention it’ll be a magnet for dust, swirls and scratches.
100% agree with this.
Previous cars all had glossy black or piano black centre consoles and I absolutely hated it. Scratches, swirls and dust magnet indeed.
It looks good for about 2 seconds after cleaning but that's about it.
I received my GTD after 13 months of ordering.
Awful to think that someone placing an order right now will probably not get it until the end of next year, or worse.
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I can see why VW fitted the glossy black console trim, my first impression of the mk8 interior was that the general cabin aesthetics were good but the door handles and console looked a bit cheap, and probably every focus group has said the same thing. Glossy black is a “cheap fix”. But a mistake in my eyes as well as most others here it seems.
As someone who likes to keep their car clean I really appreciate how easy the matt plastic is to look after and resist light wear.
I’m sure there are other inexpensive materials available to VW instead of those few extra pfennigs the gloss black must’ve cost over the matt.
In other news, the ‘R 20 Years’ is interesting.
Will probably make the GTI 45 look a bargain though! :whistle:
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I can see why VW fitted the glossy black console trim, my first impression of the mk8 interior was that the general cabin aesthetics were good but the door handles and console looked a bit cheap, and probably every focus group has said the same thing. Glossy black is a “cheap fix”. But a mistake in my eyes as well as most others here it seems.
As someone who likes to keep their car clean I really appreciate how easy the matt plastic is to look after and resist light wear.
I’m sure there are other inexpensive materials available to VW instead of those few extra pfennigs the gloss black must’ve cost over the matt.
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Agree with all of that… although the R 20 has just enough in the way of changes for it to be remembered as special for years to come, thus retaining its value. The CS45 spec is about to be wharfed by the MY23 changes to the standard CS (apart from wheels).
The gloss black will be trickier to keep clean but it’s been the ‘thing’ for years now in interior car design. The 7.5 had it for years and I don’t remember people complaining at the time.
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The 7.5 had gloss black alright but in the MK8 case it appears that there will be a lot more of it and in more easily scuffed, high-touch areas, i.e. all around the gear selector and on that high "triangular" piece that runs into the main dashboard.
I'd be half tempted to retro fit it though, if it weren't a too big/awkward job!
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I’ve self healing Expel PPF on the high gloss interior trim my wife’s MK7.5 PP GTI which is a fantastic job no marks no scratches on a car 30k on it
I don’t have any PPF on my High gloss Interior trim in my CSS but I’m very careful cleaning it etc and tbh it’s unmarked
So having it in a MK8 wouldn’t annoy me
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I’ve self healing Expel PPF on the high gloss interior trim my wife’s MK7.5 PP GTI which is a fantastic job no marks no scratches on a car 30k on it
That's a brilliant idea! Does it make reflected glare from the Sun better or worse? That's my pet hate with piano black.
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Because it’s low down around the console area I’ve never really noticed
If anything I’d say any glare reflection would be reduced
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I’ve self healing Expel PPF on the high gloss interior trim my wife’s MK7.5 PP GTI which is a fantastic job no marks no scratches on a car 30k on it
I don’t have any PPF on my High gloss Interior trim in my CSS but I’m very careful cleaning it etc and tbh it’s unmarked
So having it in a MK8 wouldn’t annoy me
What a brilliant idea. I’ll consider that on my CS when it arrives
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Had a look on the configurator yesterday, it appears you can select an ED45 (Akrapovic, Scotsdale wheels and leather trim) wonder what impact this will have on the relatively special edition ED45 proper?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2nwwTJB/Screenshot-2022-05-26-121852.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXCPf1js)
Also notice that the standard CS is £40,005 before options. Luxury car VED on a Golf is ludicrous another stealth tax as more and more fairly normal cars tip over £40k!!!!
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How bizarre, so you can't buy a CS45 anymore but you can spec a CS up to be one?
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How bizarre, so you can't buy a CS45 anymore but you can spec a CS up to be one?
I think we've know that would be the case for some time now... I remember someone showing an Irish sales note about the release date for the extras...
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Its been listed ("Racing package") on the Irish configurator pretty much since day one, but I've never seen one in the wild. I'd be very doubtful if a car was ever spec'd with it here.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SsqnQbqq/Screenshot-2022-05-26-at-17-04-30.png) (https://postimg.cc/7CsHXcfQ)
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Hmm, the steering wheel already has red stitching, so its just the GTI badge on the seats.
The "high gloss" on the centre console sounds good, should help make that area of the centre console look a bit more premium (but also very scratch prone). Should be a simple retrofit too if you wanted it...
And if I read that right, lane assist / side assist will be optional rather than standard?
I've not got red stitching on my steering wheel (21 plate - May 2021) :sad:
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Had a look on the configurator yesterday, it appears you can select an ED45 (Akrapovic, Scotsdale wheels and leather trim) wonder what impact this will have on the relatively special edition ED45 proper?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2nwwTJB/Screenshot-2022-05-26-121852.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXCPf1js)
Also notice that the standard CS is £40,005 before options. Luxury car VED on a Golf is ludicrous another stealth tax as more and more fairly normal cars tip over £40k!!!!
OK, this has frustrated me a bit, surely VW can't sell us a limited production run Edition 45 model, pull it from ordering, then offer an Edition 45 pack that turns a standard Clubsport into an Edition 45 model! :huh:
I've emailed VW to ask them what is included in the pack, my fingers are crossed it's another VW configurator error!
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Don’t think it is a mistake just VW maximising profits
Disappointed in this as i have a 45 due but got good discount
on it which I doubt today is available
Specifying a Clubsport to Edition 45 spec will be a fair bit more than the list price that the 45 was
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Hmm, the steering wheel already has red stitching, so its just the GTI badge on the seats.
The "high gloss" on the centre console sounds good, should help make that area of the centre console look a bit more premium (but also very scratch prone). Should be a simple retrofit too if you wanted it...
And if I read that right, lane assist / side assist will be optional rather than standard?
I've not got red stitching on my steering wheel (21 plate - May 2021) :sad:
I only noticed this recently (while browsing ads for used GTI's) that the red stitching is absent on regular GTI steering wheels. Its only standard (up to now at least) on the Clubsport. A strange omission really!
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I think what the configurator is showing in the picture in terms of the 45 decals on the sides and 45 on the steering wheel is an error. However you can definitely as noted get a pack to add Akra and Scottsdale alloys and separately two tone paint with a black roof so in effect a normal Clubsport can be made the same as a 45 just without the 45 on it, bit odd really. It does take away from the uniqueness of owning a 45.
If you look at the German configurator that seems to be set up correctly.
I suspect something similar will end up happening with the R 20 extras in due course.
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I also think it's an error with the configurator, below is a physical car with the GTI Performance Pack added, same spec as Edition 45 bar the 45 decals.
https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/volkswagen-golf-gti-2-0-tsi-clubsport-akrapovic-300pk-new-2022-gasoline-white-d86a230d-1c99-46c5-aa70-50936abb35ac?utm_source=android-share
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I think what the configurator is showing in the picture in terms of the 45 decals on the sides and 45 on the steering wheel is an error. However you can definitely as noted get a pack to add Akra and Scottsdale alloys and separately two tone paint with a black roof so in effect a normal Clubsport can be made the same as a 45 just without the 45 on it, bit odd really. It does take away from the uniqueness of owning a 45.
If you look at the German configurator that seems to be set up correctly.
I suspect something similar will end up happening with the R 20 extras in due course.
On the configurator it even calls it Edition 45 trim
(https://i.postimg.cc/zX0Xh80k/6754216-C-5507-4297-9154-B9-B728-D15-B4-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3d0T55My)
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They did similar with the Mk5 Edition 30 they just kept on selling and building the supposed limited run car then we had the farce that was the numbered plaques.
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Tbh, as a CS45 owner, I didn’t buy it for the bits but because it’s a CS45. These aren’t so doesn’t really bother me. I actually think it’s good that they’re being offered. Doesn’t make it a CS45 in my mind though. As for residuals, people who want a 45, want a 45, not a trim level equivalent so don’t think it’ll affect them.
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I think the problem is that people won't know the difference.
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See, I think people will because the 45 naturally attracts the total Vw geeks so they’ll definitely know.
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See, I think people will because the 45 naturally attracts the total Vw geeks so they’ll definitely know.
If you spec a CS up with the Edition 45 pack it even gets the stickers down the side that say 45! There would be no way to tell a real one and a specced up CS apart?
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Other than an ED45 will have been built in a particular time range.... Early 2022 to mid 2027 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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See, I think people will because the 45 naturally attracts the total Vw geeks so they’ll definitely know.
If you spec a CS up with the Edition 45 pack it even gets the stickers down the side that say 45! There would be no way to tell a real one and a specced up CS apart?
Thing is, I’m really not sure if it’ll come with the stickers as the website is notoriously rubbish. Either way, you can buy them off AliExpress for £15. Still doesn’t make it a CS45.
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See the link vw_golf_nut posted on the previous page. That car has the ED45 kit minus the hexagon and number graphics reverting to the standard diagonal CS side stickers. The configurator hasn’t been updated properly yet, that’s all. Nothing unusual there!
As king monkey says, easy enough to add your own Ed45 graphics should you wish but by the time your CS PP (or whatever it’s going to be labelled) has arrived the ED50 will be getting close judging by current built delays.
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Apologies. I managed to use the wrong thread. 🤦♂️