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Title: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Guycav87 on 08 October 2021, 08:35
Hello
looking to see if anyone has encountered the same issue im having currently and is either still having the issue or has had it fixed and the issue has gone?.
car has been in to the dealer a fourth time now and is currently still with them as they have no clue what is causing it.
the noise happens on any road type, over speed bumps and mainly at lower speeds especially when turning left as downward force is on right side.
it sounds like an issue with the mount, as its like rubber squeaking/creaking but it sounds like its coming from middle to bottom of suspension.
they can replicate the noise but are scratching heads.
i am at my wits end now & debating rejecting it as i had to do with my Mk8 GTI back in April, never had an issue with VW up until the Mk8, disappointing & frustrated with it all.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: joe6 on 08 October 2021, 08:59
Thought I read elsewhere on the forum that top suspension mounts gave problems and had to be replaced. Also special grease needed for some suspension bushes to cure squeaks. Might be the latter if the noise is coming from lower down the suspension.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Guycav87 on 08 October 2021, 09:12
ive not found that comment on the thread yet but i had a feeling it may be the mounts.
greasing they have tried 3 times on different areas to no avail.
they found a scuff mark on the bottom within the strut last 3rd time it went in and greased it but didnt work so its currently with them now since tuesday and im awaiting an update today.
not hopeful at all
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: fredgroves on 08 October 2021, 17:14
Mine does something like that too.

I've had the dealer look at it but because I couldn't describe under what circumstances it happens they couldn't do much.

Apparently they have looked for any signs of wear that might indicate what the problem is, but couldn't find anything...

Do you have dcc like me?
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Guycav87 on 08 October 2021, 20:08
Hi Fred

Well i had the car back today and so far no noise.
the business manager at my local VW dealer has a clubsport and had the same issue.
the fix they done on both cars was taking the shock absorber ram out of the cylinder and found it was dry, little to no grease.
so they greased it up and adjusted it, the manager there has had no noise after 3 days of driving and i havent had any since having my car back so i just have to monitor it.
they test drove mind yesterday and this morning and had no noise either.
cruise control issue is it?
i dont use it but i know its wide spread and people are rejecting the cars and VW are accepting it as they know no fix is coming soon.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: fredgroves on 08 October 2021, 20:52
No, I was asking if you have dynamic chassis control... Dcc.

Thanks for the possible fix for the noise though. Might be able to get that looked at.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Guycav87 on 08 October 2021, 21:45
Apologies Fred i read it wrong.
no i dont have DCC, whats the issue with that?
never had an issue on previous Golfs I've had it on.
yeah id say to mention it to your dealer as it seems so far to fix it.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Brocky_ on 09 October 2021, 01:36
I had mine done.  Non-DCC ClubSport.  A different grease was used.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Acegadget on 09 October 2021, 08:32
It was me and yes 2 top mounts and then NSF strut exploded
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Guycav87 on 09 October 2021, 10:35
Well I'm hoping for no rupturing of struts tbh.
they explained they used a certain type of grease on the bellow inside the shock absorber then had to readjust the arm back into the cylinder.
i haven't been out in it yet today but no noise as of yesterday and day before
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: fredgroves on 09 October 2021, 12:45
Is there a TPI for it? Easier to point them at that (because they won't bother looking for a TPI...)
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: joe6 on 09 October 2021, 20:26
Is there a TPI for it (because they won't bother looking for a TPI...)
My experience of dealers and TPIs. 🥳
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Relishy57 on 09 October 2021, 20:32
I had a similar problem. Top mount and bearing were replaced and no further noise. No grease mentioned but has been in many reports since.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: M6TT F on 09 October 2021, 21:21
My clubsport seems to have developed an annoying vibration on low revs, which sounds like it’s somewhere in the passenger side of the dash
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Megy_CS on 10 October 2021, 12:37
I had similar sounding noises in my CS and they replaced the NSF top mount and OSF shock strut and now no further noise.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Kraikkonen07 on 13 October 2021, 17:57
I had this problem on my clubsport, top mount on the front left suspension was causing the shock absorber to destroy itself, now the noise is happening on the other side !
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Sniffer on 15 October 2021, 20:34
I, too, had a squeaking/rattling noise coming from (I thought) the NSF suspension on my GTI, especially at slow speeds. Fortunately, I was able to download the evidence from my dashcam because when I first took the car back to my dealers they said they couldn't hear it and then, after showing the Service Manager the video on my PC and, after we had taken the car 400 yds down the road on a test drive, the technician heard it too. But he said he thought it was coming from the rear suspension.

Anyway, he heard it so the car was booked in for a warranty repair two weeks later and, this time, another technician test drove the car, then phoned me to say he was convinced the noise was actually coming from the NSF suspension, which was what I had said initially. Three hours later, he phoned me again to say that he had adjusted the suspension mounts on both OSF and NSF, and applied a generous application of  "Lithium grease" and was convinced that the problem was gone. I think he's right because a week on and 300 miles later and I haven't heard a single squeak.

However, I'm very lucky to have such a good and honest service manager because he doesn't seem to be 100% convinced that his chaps have resolved the problem for good. He is clearly aware this is a known issue and asked me to let him know, immediately, if the problem returns. If that happens, he intends to replace the suspension mounts etc, under warranty.

So, I shall be keeping a very, close eye (and ear) on the problem. But, so far, so good.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Rudedog on 15 October 2021, 22:48
Mines booked in next weekend and I'm worried that if it's been raining and the suspension is wet then the noise won't be heard, I know it's there at low speeds plus when you brake hard and turn in transferring the weight around the suspension.

The other trim noises are usually heard when it's warmer so again I preparing myself for them to say nothing can be heard.

Hopefully they'll get the car up and have a good poke around.



Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Sniffer on 04 April 2022, 17:15
Back in October 2021 my GTI had some Lithium grease applied by the local dealers (see above post) in an attempt to cure a squeaky, front suspension.

Well, the noise returned (as expected) a few weeks ago and this morning I dropped my car off at the dealers, so that they could investigate the cause.  I've just had a call to say that they have identified the problem and ordered up replacement boots and that my car should be ready tomorrow.

Replacement boots after only 8,000 miles and in a car that it is not yet one year old?? That does seem odd. Has anyone else experienced similar?
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: evo1986 on 04 April 2022, 22:24
We had exactly the same on a 6 month old demo with 5000 ish miles
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Megy_CS on 05 April 2022, 00:18
I had similar sounding noises in my CS and they replaced the NSF top mount and OSF shock strut and now no further noise.

Further to my earlier post, I have had both front top mounts replaced plus both shocks and the noise has come back and is going in again tomorrow for further investigations
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: fredgroves on 05 April 2022, 09:40
My GTI does it - sounds like the front suspension is knackered... you get a creaky groaning noise as the suspension unloads.

They've not attempted to fix it, just told me they couldn't hear the problem... despite me telling them how to reproduce it.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Sniffer on 05 April 2022, 13:09
Picked up my car this morning and, I think, the noise has gone. It does seem that it's a common issue though, because there's a TPI (2064607/2) quoted on the warranty paperwork. Basically, the dealers have dismantled and rebuilt my car's front suspension.

Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Rudedog on 05 April 2022, 13:29
I had two recent creaks from the front suspension.... the dealers used a TPI to replace/grease the main front sub-frame bolts which fixed the issue I had when braking/turning in.... the other parking related creak they couldn't find/fix.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: PammyGTI on 16 April 2022, 10:55
I had the same issue when I bought my Mk8 GTI in Nov 21, started to make squeaking/creaking noises around the front every time I went over a bump,  took it into VW & the technician replaced the cv boots,  runs like a dream now, no more squeaks !
If it’s still under warranty get them changed!
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Brocky_ on 16 April 2022, 17:21
Picked up my car this morning and, I think, the noise has gone. It does seem that it's a common issue though, because there's a TPI (2064607/2) quoted on the warranty paperwork. Basically, the dealers have dismantled and rebuilt my car's front suspension.
Thanks for the TPI info, Sniffer. Mine had the 'better grease' as they called it done around six months ago and it worked initially but the issue came back after about three months. I'm due in for a service in the next few weeks and I've put it on as something to be investigated. I'll pass on the TPI info when I drop it off.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Sniffer on 16 April 2022, 20:36
Picked up my car this morning and, I think, the noise has gone. It does seem that it's a common issue though, because there's a TPI (2064607/2) quoted on the warranty paperwork. Basically, the dealers have dismantled and rebuilt my car's front suspension.
Thanks for the TPI info, Sniffer. Mine had the 'better grease' as they called it done around six months ago and it worked initially but the issue came back after about three months. I'm due in for a service in the next few weeks and I've put it on as something to be investigated. I'll pass on the TPI info when I drop it off.

Yes, I had the same interim (lithium grease) fix applied in October.  It only masked the problem for a few months. Good luck!
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Brocky_ on 05 May 2022, 19:59
Mine was in for it's first service at Inchcape today.  I completely forgot to give them the TPI info that Sniffer posted but I listed it for investigation and they've come back with...

"Carried out investigation into creaky suspension and confirmed fault with gaiters on shockers sized from following a test plan.  Removed and refitted trim correctly and all tested ok."

From that, I'm not entirely certain what they've done.  It's not the clearest job description in the world, is it?

Also had the engine cover off and can confirm that there's no noticeable extra noise.  I asked if there was a replacement in the pipeline and they said that they didn't know.

Also found out that I'm not too far away from needing new front tires.  I haven't rotated them in the time I have had the car, admittedly, but still didn't expect to be changing them (Goodyears) at 19k miles, to be honest.  Frequent tyre changes come with the territory of being a GTI owner, I guess.  I could get away with swapping the fronts and rears and will get another couple of months out of them but I have been deliberating sticking some PS4Ss on, so not sure it's worth the hassle.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: SCourtney on 06 May 2022, 18:49
That is what they did to mine about 2 weeks ago, and so far so good.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: fredgroves on 06 May 2022, 19:12
Not changing the fronts at 19k?

Do you drive like miss daisy?

About 14ish for fronts normally on my gtd's, my gti had an early bath at 11k, but probably wouldnt have made more than 13k
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Exonian on 06 May 2022, 20:55
Brocky, at 19k do you notice the fronts worn more on the inside (owing to the CS running a bit of camber)?
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Brocky_ on 07 May 2022, 02:23
Not changing the fronts at 19k?

Do you drive like miss daisy?

About 14ish for fronts normally on my gtd's, my gti had an early bath at 11k, but probably wouldnt have made more than 13k
:grin:
Did Miss Daisy drive...?  :smug:  :tongue:

Far from it, Fred!  Though, around 60-70% of that mileage is motorway and dual-carriageway, rather than twisty bits.  The tech also said that my pads are about 50% worn, if that redeems any of my cred...?  Those Clubby brakes are so good, it'd be rude to not use them to their full potential!  :evil:

Brocky, at 19k do you notice the fronts worn more on the inside (owing to the CS running a bit of camber)?
Haven't really noticed, Exonian.  I don't have a depth gauge either, so couldn't tell you.  Sorry.  Is it something you've noticed with yours?

That is what they did to mine about 2 weeks ago, and so far so good.
I had the "better grease" done on mine about six months in and that lasted about a month before the creaking came back.  Hopefully the techs are better informed this time.
Title: Re: Mk8 Clubsport Squeaking/Creaking noise front right driver side
Post by: Exonian on 07 May 2022, 22:46

Haven't really noticed, Exonian.  I don't have a depth gauge either, so couldn't tell you.  Sorry.  Is it something you've noticed with yours?

Mine is running PS4S at around 11k miles and I haven’t noticed any uneven wear but it would be hard to spot unless the wheels were on full lock as it would be the inner shoulder that was affected.

Which is a long winded way of saying I’ve not checked properly.

It’s now on the “to do” list.