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Model specific boards => Golf mk6 => Golf mk6 GTD/TDI => Topic started by: Starfox on 05 June 2014, 09:37
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First time poster, but reading my way through the forums educating myself on the MK6 Golf...
I recently purchased my second Type R FN2 and I am loving it but changes in circumstances has pushed my annual mileage up to 18,000 - 20,000. So I am thinking about changing to a diesel.
Not wanting to go straight for the completely sensible 1.6 Diesels and not being completely won over by the 9G Civics I have been looking at a Golf. I would love a MK7 GTD but I cannot afford one. So I am now strongly considering a MK6 GTD Golf as I reckon I would get around 50MPG.
I have seen this 2011 GTD Golf (http://"http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201405074009544/sort/default/usedcars/radius/1501/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l/maximum-age/up_to_3_years_old/model/golf/make/volkswagen/fuel-type/diesel/keywords/GTD/postcode/bt621rn/page/4?logcode=p") which I love the look of (I am a sucker for upgraded extras - this car has a good amount). The mileage is slightly higher than I would have liked but then I could get one for similar money with about 20K less miles but most of the extras aren't on it. Going to view it after work today and hopefully get my first drive in a GTD Golf...
£16,500 seems alot of money for a car with this amount of miles on it (remember it is N. Ireland - we have to pay a bit more over here!) but it is a Golf I guess. I would just be worried if I put 20K miles on it a year and after 3 years went to sell it what type of resale value I could expect. I am hoping some of the experienced VW owners on here could give me their thoughts - I have been a Honda person for the last 8 years so knowledge of Golfs is limited :smiley:
Thanks!
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Looks a good deal to me. I have a similar spec without a few of those options and I have a higher mileage and I had about 15.5k in my head if I were to sell.
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Thanks - it is at least comforting to have the price being reasonable confirmed! I guess coming from Honda Civic's I have to get used to the VW Golf's being higher priced...Hopefully they are keen to deal.
Would you say 50MPG is a fair estimate? Ride comfort OK on the 18" wheels? (Type R ride comfort = awful :sad:). Having ACC as well on it will help with this I guess.
Anything specifically I should be looking out for when viewing/driving today?
Thanks!
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I have ACC on 18's and very hard bridgestone s001's and the ride in comfort mode is quite impressive, of course you'll feel it if you hit pot holes and go over bumps quickly, but the comfort on uneven roads is pretty good, I love it!
Of course I have dsg and only do town driving so my mpg is 40 but that's still pretty decent seeing as I'm always sitting through rush hour traffic.
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I have a 2011 mk6 GTD and I regularly get 50+ mpg with a mix of roughly 50% town driving and 50% journeys of 25+ miles. That's with me calculating the fuel consumption manually by brimming the tank when I fill up as the mpg readout on the MFD on the instrument display tends to be a little optimist.
I've got 18" Charleston alloys and although the ride is firm, it's fine. I came from a mk5 GT TDI 170 which had 17" wheels, and I didn't notice any discernible deterioration in ride quality when I got my GTD on 18" wheels. I'm assuming the car you're considering has 18" wheels. Whether they're 17" or 18", both designs are diamond cut so check them over carefully for curb damage or whiteworm corrosion, as they cost around £80 a wheel to refurbish, and not all wheel refurbishers have the facilities to tackle them.
My GTD is my 3rd Golf and is my favourite. If you find one with xenon headlights, then that's a bonus. I have them, and they're one of my my favourite features of the car. They not only give much better visibility than the standard halogens (although there are some decent non-xenon bulb upgrades available), they also make the car look more aggressive.
Good luck. Oh, and welcome to the forum.
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Buy the golf, i had a type R, 09 plate got to know the woman in the petrol station very well! Traded the petrol sucker in for a 59 plate leon FR+ harmony was restored throughout the land :grin: even got a letter from Greenpeace thanking me for my efforts on the global warming project. Leon went and arrived the GTD VW has a wee bit better quality feel about it. I have a stage 1 remap and pottering about at 60mph easily see 56mpg.
PS i was later told that the Type R was sold to a man with a Subaru...he was overjoyed with his increased fuel economy....poor bloke!
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Thanks guys for the responses...
I do really want the ACC although it doesn't seem to be that common (guessing because of the additional cost when new) - the road I drive to work on is hideous in places. Type R really struggles on it.
50+ MPG is what I am looking so it is nice to get it confirmed, I mentioned it to the salesguy last night and he was like yea yea no bother (Although I think if I had of asked him would it do 80 MPG+ he would have said the same :rolleyes:)
I seen it last night, didn't get a test drive in it yet. They have no interest in PX for my Type R so I need to see about getting it sold. Although I am tempted to go back next week and see if they will do the deal and take a holding deposit to secure it as I am assuming my Type R won't sell that quickly. Could be a a bit of a risk though but I loved what I seen of the car and would be gutted if I missed out as it is exactly what I am looking for.
SRGTD you are right the car I am looking at has 18" wheels. Love the look of them plus it has the Xenon lights as well (As I said it is loaded with extras) From what I seen of the wheels they were in very good condition - only a small slight mark on one of them. Little bit of white-worm corrosion on the bolts but they can be easily changed. Quite a big stone chip in the bonnet which hadn't been touched up and was rusting but I am sure it can be fixed too.
Thanks for the welcome!
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Buy the golf, i had a type R, 09 plate got to know the woman in the petrol station very well! Traded the petrol sucker in for a 59 plate leon FR+ harmony was restored throughout the land :grin: even got a letter from Greenpeace thanking me for my efforts on the global warming project. Leon went and arrived the GTD VW has a wee bit better quality feel about it. I have a stage 1 remap and pottering about at 60mph easily see 56mpg.
PS i was later told that the Type R was sold to a man with a Subaru...he was overjoyed with his increased fuel economy....poor bloke!
Ha - agreed I am spending too much time in the petrol station plus I am quickly getting fed up with the Milltek performance exhaust drone and extremely firm ride! I am on two stag does from now until Monday week so will have to hold off until then before putting it up for sale...
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Hi there,
I picked my 59 plate GTD DSG about 3 months ago and before that I had a remaped Seat LCR. With the miles that you do, you must have fairly long journeys so I would say that you should be able to get 50-ish mpg, but it depends of course on how you drive. I had 18s on my LCR and now run the same Goodyear Eagle Assy 2's on the GTD and its so much more compliant over potholes and humps and in general. No more wincing when I see a bump coming!
I cant see the spec - its not loading up, but the cabin is a very nice place to be, and I find myself more chilled in my driving style as a result. I also got standard cruise control installed when I got it recently serviced and it makes driving even easier, especially coupled with DSG.
Yes it costs more, but its probably got a higher residual sale value, although that will drop as the MK7s get older I guess. When I was researching the car, I never really came across many major problems regarding the GTD, and even on this forum there isnt much to go by. Overall I'm really happy with the car, though coming from a mapped turbo, I'm enquiring about a remap to get a bit more oomph and also a touch more economy.
Wish I had found one with Xenons and rear LEDs though - really expensive to add afterwards!
Good luck with finding the one you want
Jonny
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Thanks - not sure what happened that link. Basically it has,
Bluetooth Telephone preparation
Cruise control
DVD navigation system with 6.5" colour touch screen & Dynaudio sound pack
Ultrasonic front and rear optical and audible parking sensors
Bi-Xenon headlights and headlight washers
Winter pack
Metallic - Carbon grey
ACC - Adaptive chassis control
18" Charleston alloy wheels
So as you can see very well spec'd! My dream spec TBH. 52K miles for £16,500 though so you pay for that! I am away until next week so I will decide and potentially make the purchase when I get back if they will accept a small holding deposit to allow me to then get my own car sold (And it is still for sale!). My work journey is 45 mile round trip and then I would do another 70 mile round trip at least twice a week. A friend who owns a MK7 GTI Golf had mentioned the potential to remap the GTD to get more power and better MPG as well...
Not having to wince when I see a pothole would be nice :smiley:
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That sounds amazing! I would jump on it 100%
Remaps will see you 200bhp easy with lots of torque around 400nm+ mpg wont really rise as with the map, you'll be loving it all that much more!
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I am hoping to do a deal today if possible but there is one thing bugging me a little.
The car was advertised with an RNS510 player which obviously has full Sat Nav. When I went to see it the first thing the dealer told me was when he had got the car the RNS510 player had been swapped out with a non-Sat Nav unit (RCD510 I believe). Hence he said there was no sound from the speakers as the Dynaudio Sound Pack didn't work with the swapped head unit and he was sourcing one from the main VW breaker in England and would be fitting the proper RNS510 back in.
Does the above even make sense and am I likely to get caught out were I don't have all the full features of the RNS510 if it is installed and was not originally meant to be? How can I check if there is actually Dynaudio Sound Pack Installed?
Thanks!
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Dynaudio (from what I can gather) is a combination of physically different speakers, and then a mode enabled on the RNS-510 to alter the sound output to the speakers ie. There isn't a specific Dynaudio RNS-510. As part of the fitting they would have to use VCDS (or dealer equivalent) to enable this mode on the RND-510 that they had sourced, but as long as the speakers are already fitted, then shouldn't be a problem theoretically.
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Visible signs that a Golf has got Dynaudio will be the amp under the front passenger seat, cased in a black plastic surround and the high frequency tweeters will have a chrome surround, and will be badged with the Dynaudio logo.
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Thanks for the help - checked what you said SRGTD and seen the visible signs OK. He has a RNS 510 unit coming this week and will be fitting it this weekend and I done the deal this evening and put down a deposit!!
Time to get the Type R sold now :smiley:
Really appreciate the help on these forums - will be sure to get a few photos of it up and I collect it. Quite a few swirls in the dark paint from paint washing routine obviously so first thing will be a full polish to try and remove these but it really is a lovely looking (And driving!) car.
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Finally some pics - Type R is now sold :cry:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zCyVprFCwNU/U7xQMQUzcII/AAAAAAAAAXo/5KfUi4ex184/w1153-h865-no/GTD%252BCTR-No+Number.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4ZYmCvQe3iM/U7xNiA3zzcI/AAAAAAAAAXc/NPtAv3n6JQU/w649-h865-no/GTD-No+Number.jpg)
Few problems along the way with the Golf including finding out the air-con compressor was gone and needs replaced, experiencing the dreaded drone from rear saw-toothed tyres and the driver door needing adjusted as it was not seated right when closed...but getting there!
Air-con compressor being replaced and two new tyres (Good Year F1's) going on in a couple of weeks as well as a full 4 point alignment done (hoping when it is aligned it won't just give me the same problem but actually fix it if it is done to the recommended VW Geometry!). Dreaded whiteworm is quite bad on one of the alloys as well - dammit for being so excited and not noticing it when viewing it...
Question - first run give me 55MPG from the car computer but when calculated it was closer to 48MPG - usual to be this far out?!
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Looking vey good :cool:
Even better once you get the teething issues sorted. Change to F1s and geometry check should sort the sawtooth wear issue and a decent wheel refurb should sort the dreaded whiteworm.
Enjoy :smiley:
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http://youtu.be/nKAHtlR0pHE (http://youtu.be/nKAHtlR0pHE) 70mpg in the GTD.