Mi16 in a mk1

[wag,en,volks]

You could fit a 2.0 16v vw engine and supercharge or turbo it for the price/time/agro it would take to fit the mi16 engine and you wouldnt end up with a car that no one wanted 

[Mr V Wagon]

Mi16 the 'best' 16v!??!?!

nah, wot about the red top vauxhall lump? 150bhp 150lb-ft

Mi16 160bhp 135lb-ft

And the 16v Fiat Therma engine. These three are probably the best N/A engines ever made

[Mr V Wagon]

vw 16v the right engine to go in a mk1 but by far the least tuneable

In all fairness, the VW 16v cylinder head is a very poor design. If you compare the flow rates with that of an XE head - the VW head looks very silly. Did you know VW couldn't design a 16v head? They got an Italian company to do it.

The flow rates of the VW 20v(based on the Yamaha R1 engine) engine is far better than the VW 16v, especially in the higher rev range.

The initial batch of 2.0 XEs came from Cosworth. Vauxhall had overheating problems and gave the design to Cossie to sort out. They, basically, drilled one coolant gallery though the head and gave it back! lol! The first batch had all the cossie stuff - valves, guides, casting etc. The rest were duplicated by Vauxhall and aren't as good quality.

[Mr V Wagon]

Sorry boys, didn't mean to kill the thread

[HARDCOR3]

Any thoughts on putting an Mi16 in a mk1? Besides the extreme difficulty of the wiring. Best 16valver out there.

wiring the loom of an mi-16 in is a peice of piss, and only involves 3 wires, live, ign live and earth....

heres 1 i prepared earlier..


Top engine, my 205 killed most things on the road, including my VR, was the fastest car i've owned and stuck to the road like sh!t on a blanket

[kins888]

Hey MrV.... what about Steves old chesnut....... Fiat/Lancia Twin cam? He is right in a way.......

A recent quote " Fiat/Lancia Twin cam - all the way!! Come on people - you can pick them up in a complete running Thema Turbo 16v for £200 and they are the same as the Delta Integrale engines - remap, cam change and there is 300bhp - start doing more work and the sky is litterally the limit."

Tempting hey. 

[Mr V Wagon]

Hello kins!

Yep, he's right in a way but on the 'dub scene' people tend to stick with VAG parts. If you talk about putting a XE in a Mini - it's a good idea, but a non-VAG engine into a VAG car - it's looked down upon. That's probably why second hand VAG engines are more expensive than other make alternatives!? lol!

[kins888]

This is true... thats why I'm sticking with my plan..... keep it simple and VAG 2.0 8v I'm hoping for 160+ which will be plenty in a mk1. I keep meaning to ask you what gearbox do you thinks best? I was thinking 1.6 gti box for quick 0-100 times but do you think it will put the power down ok? hmmmm?

[sportline_velly]

This is true... thats why I'm sticking with my plan..... keep it simple and VAG 2.0 8v I'm hoping for 160+ which will be plenty in a mk1. I keep meaning to ask you what gearbox do you thinks best? I was thinking 1.6 gti box for quick 0-100 times but do you think it will put the power down ok? hmmmm?

160+bhp from an 8v, just how are you planning on that?
iTB's?

150ish is about max for a k-jet 8v TBH

[RYoungMK1GTI]

if you put a pug engine or in fact ne other non vw engine in a MK1 you should be castrated and thrown off a cliff, if you do it and i see it at a meet ill take a slash in the engine bay. you idiot.

plus the mitsu 16v engines are an awesome 16v engine, but can get expensive if you dont have a contact who can get cheap sh!t, i used to work there ya see.

lets all find out where len405 lives and and take his mk1 off him.