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Title: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 13 December 2008, 15:49
Well, finally have the car that made me fall in love with VW's.
A mystic blue VW golf mk3 GTI 8v.
My dad had this car while i was growing up and i used to love it and always wanted one. When i turned 17, i looked for a mk3 but obviously couldnt afford a gti, so at the end i went for a 1.6 mk2 driver.
It was a good learning experience, and has lived up to the standard of mk2s, fun to drive, easy to mod, and cheap.
Anyway, the mk3...bought it december 2008 from a dealer not too far from me, paid £900 and with it came FSH, 12 months mot, 6 months tax, electric wondows, electric sunroof, electric mirrors, NO RUST and a healthy 8v engine.
The drivers side window and sunroof didnt work, but the dealers promise was to fix aything before it was handed over, so he sorted rear wheel bearing, electric window and sunroof, he did the tracking and camber, and replaced afew bits that were missing like drivers door pin, boot carpet, and o/s bumper air vent.
Got home and the sunroof wasnt working anymore, so ive got to take it back to the dealers in january when im back from holiday.
Spent last night and today playing with the car and found some stuff that needs doing.

anyway, cant drive it due to insurance until january, probably late january i imagine.
Gonna roll standard (although its already lowered) for a month and fix anything that needs fixing, then the modding will start.
Plans are:

here is the beauty.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAGE_163-1.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAGE_159.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAGE_160.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAGE_161.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAGE_162.jpg)

sorry for bad quality pics, it was off my mobile phone.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Horney on 13 December 2008, 15:53
Looks good mate, I've always preffered the earlier MKIII's with all the plastic trim. My Dad had a dark silver VR6 on an M plate when I was in my late teens.

Nick
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 14 December 2008, 08:56
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAGE_159.jpg)

Big FAIL there -  you need an empty skip to put it in.  :tongue:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 December 2008, 10:06
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
i did actually think when i was taking the picture, shall i move the car and take them in a different place? cos i knew someone was going to mention the skip!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 14 December 2008, 10:19
I hope you're not going to put blue rear light clusters on a purple car?  :lipsrsealed:

I agree with Nick, the early MK3s look better with the plastic trims.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: T_J_G on 14 December 2008, 10:23
Looks alright that!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 December 2008, 16:02
I hope you're not going to put blue rear light clusters on a purple car?  :lipsrsealed:
oh dont you worry! wont put such horrid things in such a car... :grin:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 14 December 2008, 16:07
you managed to put it in the skip yet? :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: RandomJord on 14 December 2008, 16:31
Like nice, so where you going to take it for your maiden voyage?
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: JC on 14 December 2008, 16:48
back to the dodgy stealer who didnt fix everything he said he would  :grin: :laugh: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 14 December 2008, 18:32
Looks good, I took all the trim off mine as wanted to get rid of all the water traps.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 December 2008, 18:34
back to the dodgy stealer who didnt fix everything he said he would  :grin: :laugh: :lipsrsealed:
very true. gonna ask him why the abs, front brake pad check and airbag lights dont come on too :sad:
dealers are all the same, barstweards!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 14 December 2008, 18:49
very true. gonna ask him why the abs, front brake pad check and airbag lights dont come on too :sad:
dealers are all the same, barstweards!

Golf3s are all the same actually - a dealer of the calibre you bought this thing from would have been quite capable of dealing with a similar G2....... it's just that the G3 is more full of cr complicated.

The more you say about it, the more I think you've bought a load of trouble and you'd be better off with what you already had (a grand of modifications would go a long way, too).
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 December 2008, 19:40
im happy with the buy, just needs some time to bed in :smiley:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Mew on 14 December 2008, 20:54
ABS light and number plate lights are an MOT failure surely? So how has it got 12 months MOT?
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: JC on 14 December 2008, 20:57
i would be checking to see if the BULBS are fitted on the dash  :wink:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 December 2008, 21:14
ABS light and number plate lights are an MOT failure surely? So how has it got 12 months MOT?
Number plate light is now working, wasnt working last night wierd. I swear the car has an electrical ghost, cos sometimes the interior light lights up when door opens, and sometimes it doesnt :huh:
ABS light is MOT failure if it stays on, thats why people take bulbs out or cut the wires. same applies to airbag light.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 December 2008, 21:15
new pics:
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00322.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00324.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00332.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00333.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00343.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00344.jpg)


interior needs a dam good clean. Will get to it when im back from holidays.

EDIT: have ordered a VR6 front splitter and a red GTI front grill badge.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: dubcheryl on 15 December 2008, 14:17
Looking good Andres, should be lots of fun to drive!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Benrevs on 15 December 2008, 14:40
Hey thats my car cheryl!!!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: dubcheryl on 15 December 2008, 14:47
I though that when I saw yours!! What wheels have you got on there?
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: dan_apps on 15 December 2008, 14:48
i like it mk3's are tidy nuff, especially the ol' VR6, luv em! nice little buy mate just got to get this dealer to sort the issues out he promised he would for ya!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Benrevs on 15 December 2008, 17:27
MIM something or other, from what I can see in your pic yours are borbet... I one correct?!  Representing the 5-door crew! :wink:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 15 December 2008, 20:54
Holy crap, no wonder you wanted another car, the front of yours under the bumper is rusting too fook!  :shocked:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: dubcheryl on 16 December 2008, 09:06
MIM something or other, from what I can see in your pic yours are borbet... I one correct?!  Representing the 5-door crew! :wink:

No they're OZ Racing but I have no idea what type, they're pretty old from what I can gather. Sorry for Hijack Andres!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 December 2008, 16:33
Holy crap, no wonder you wanted another car, the front of yours under the bumper is rusting too fook!  :shocked:
not rust just very dirty!!!! there is abit of rust but there jsut rust stains from not washing it in a while.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 February 2009, 18:09
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01562.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01565.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01564.jpg)


 :cool:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: JC on 17 February 2009, 19:00
amazing how much difference a set of quads make :afro:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 February 2009, 20:07
amazing how much difference a set of quads make :afro:
you can say that again! havent driven in the dark with them yet, so i dont know if there better on the safety side of things, but on the looks side of things, its completly changed the front of the car imo. Very happy with them!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VR6-Joe on 17 February 2009, 20:15
Can't beat quads to look at during the day..

You won't enjoy driving at night anymore though. You can't see f*ck all in front of you, even with uprated bulbs, so my next step is to order some HID's and pray to god they make driving at night a lot easier!

I was parked next to a BMW last night with Xenon headlights, he had just his normal beam on and I stuck my full beam on and his xenons were still brighter than mine!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 February 2009, 20:17
yeah im most likely gonna join in the group buy shady is organizing for HIDs and stick them on.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 February 2009, 22:08
UPDATE: Night drivng is balls!  :grin:
As good as they look in the day, at night i cant se feck all!
Im gonna take them to a garage to get them aligned as when i turn full beam on the n/s lamp just aims at the side of the road, and i think dipped is aiming too low. cant wait to get HIDs  :smiley:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shepgti on 17 February 2009, 22:10
UPDATE: Night drivng is balls!  :grin:
As good as they look in the day, at night i cant se feck all!
Im gonna take them to a garage to get them aligned as when i turn full beam on the n/s lamp just aims at the side of the road, and i think dipped is aiming too low. cant wait to get HIDs  :smiley:

tis what happens when you have smoked lenses  :wink:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 February 2009, 22:12
UPDATE: Night drivng is balls!  :grin:
As good as they look in the day, at night i cant se feck all!
Im gonna take them to a garage to get them aligned as when i turn full beam on the n/s lamp just aims at the side of the road, and i think dipped is aiming too low. cant wait to get HIDs  :smiley:

tis what happens when you have smoked lenses  :wink:
yes and that aswell, but the beam is all over the place, they just need a good alignment i hope.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shepgti on 17 February 2009, 22:13
UPDATE: Night drivng is balls!  :grin:
As good as they look in the day, at night i cant se feck all!
Im gonna take them to a garage to get them aligned as when i turn full beam on the n/s lamp just aims at the side of the road, and i think dipped is aiming too low. cant wait to get HIDs  :smiley:

tis what happens when you have smoked lenses  :wink:
yes and that aswell, but the beam is all over the place, they just need a good alignment i hope.

poor quality headlights you see  :lipsrsealed:  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:  :grin:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 February 2009, 22:16
naaah genuine hellas, its what you said though smoked lenses dont help, and if the beam is all over the place then its even worse!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shepgti on 17 February 2009, 22:18
they do look very dim/yellow in those daytime photos compared to normal lights
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 February 2009, 22:21
well it was plain daylight and i was seeing the light on the wall opposite, so they are alright, tad on the yellow side correct, but when i get HIDs i'l get some decent bulbs and i should see the moon with it  :smiley:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 17 February 2009, 22:35
well it was plain daylight and i was seeing the light on the wall opposite, so they are alright, tad on the yellow side correct, but when i get HIDs i'l get some decent bulbs and i should see the moon with it  :smiley:

Mine are just about ok chap but because my car is lowered they aim lower than they are meant, think mine just need an alignment too. Let me know how you get on :)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Llewellyn on 17 February 2009, 22:37
This thread has given me an unhealthy need for a mk3.........
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 17 February 2009, 22:40
And why's that? :P
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 17 February 2009, 22:49
And why's that? :P

Theyre obv the best of course :tongue:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 17 February 2009, 22:55
Obviously  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 February 2009, 22:57
touché!





actually....no.

I miss the handling on the mk2, feels so much more solid. MK3 is a very good daily car though, thats why i bught it.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Llewellyn on 17 February 2009, 22:57
hmmm i dont know,  just bought my sister an SE, which isnt helping either   :angry:

think it might have something to do with the fact my suspension is so hard on my mk2, its not that comfortable as a daily.

Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 17 February 2009, 23:12
my mk3 is much nicer than my mk2, comfier, handles better, faster.. cant think of anything more you could want!

Cars looking good kharekatoh :smiley:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 February 2009, 23:17
my mk3 is much nicer than my mk2, comfier, handles better, faster.. cant think of anything more you could want!

Cars looking good kharekatoh :smiley:
cheers dec  :smiley:

agree with what your saying, although i still think my mk2 was faster on the 0-60. deffo faster top speed easy. hit 115 in the mk2 on a private road  but i think that was pure and utter luck!  cos after that whenever i maxed it out it would seriously struggle after 100! MK3 goes well past 100 easy though.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VR6-Joe on 17 February 2009, 23:56
Had 2 Mk2 Golfs and I'm now on my 3rd Mk3, does that say something about Mk3's? :tongue:

It may only be a 1.4 SE but I've had 110mph out of it! (my mates private runway)

In my opinion the Mk3 was the best Golf made :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 18 February 2009, 06:48
Had 2 Mk2 Golfs and I'm now on my 3rd Mk3, does that say something about Mk3's? :tongue:

It may only be a 1.4 SE but I've had 110mph out of it! (my mates private runway)

In my opinion the Mk3 was the best Golf made :lipsrsealed:

If I could have got a decent insurance quote, I would have got a mk5 gti over any other golf because of the low miles and warenty :smiley:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2009, 17:16
sprayed VW abdge black.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00545.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00548.jpg)
will get a pic of it fitted on the car.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shepgti on 18 February 2009, 17:17
glad to see you went with black instead of blue  :wink:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2009, 17:20
glad to see you went with black instead of blue  :wink:
cheers dude  :smiley: not 100% happy with the finish around the middle. It bubbled slightly and kept coming through the layers. Will take another punt at it sometime when i can be bothered though, happy enough how it looks now.  :smiley:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Josho on 18 February 2009, 17:22
That will help the car on it's way to look sexual!  :cool:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 18 February 2009, 17:28
Black badges FTW!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shepgti on 18 February 2009, 17:31
Black badges FTW!

everytime
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2009, 22:09
fitted the badge, sorted the lights aswell, now i can actually see whats coming ahead not whats walking on the pavement  :grin:
will take a piccy tomorrow at some point if i can. Gotta fix a leak i have from the windscreen washer bottle will bodge it with some tape sometime soon.
here is my to do list, i keep updating it as i think up things:
Golf 3

To do:
•   Rear number plate light
•   Locking wheels nuts

•   Adjust drivers door striker
•   Clean throttle body
•   Drill air box
•   Full wet-vac clean inside

•   Full outside clean, wax and polish
•   Replace bumper air vents with cold air intakes
•   Fix outside air temperature sensor on MFA
•   Replace:  Spark plugs
                 Oil and oil filter
                 Distributor cap and rotor
                 Air filter
                 HT leads

•   Improve aerial
•   Fix sunroof
•   Fix glove box light
•   Fit new speakers
•   Fix tire pressures
•   Red GTI front badge
•   VR6 front splitter

•   Wire hazard lights to alarm
•   Fix 3rd brake light
•   Buy and fit hella quads
•   Align hella lamps

•   Buy and fit a HID kit
•   Spray VW badge black
•   Fix windscreen washer bottle
•   Fit poly bushes, new ball joints and new top mounts
•   4 wheel alignment
•   Fix water leak from the front head connector


Extras
•   Paint brake callipers
•   Polish valve cover
•   Touch up scratches
•   De-cat
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2009, 16:06
pic of badge as promised.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01566.jpg)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shepgti on 19 February 2009, 16:08
dude sort out your photgraphy skills! want pics of car as a whole!! :grin:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2009, 16:11
dude sort out your photgraphy skills! want pics of car as a whole!! :grin:
yeah i know lol. Been concentrating too much on the front  :grin: :grin: :grin: before i take pics of the car as a whole though i gotta clean it. believe me the back looks like its been jet washed with mud. Will give it a nice clean and polish soon and take it to the new forest for some photography.  :smiley:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 19 February 2009, 16:15
You need to bring that trim back to life LOL! Looking at it compared to the badge you just think "DAMN!" LOL!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2009, 16:17
yeah i know ive got a can of back to black in my boot, but i need to clean the car first! i'l see if i can clean it tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Josho on 19 February 2009, 20:44
Deffo looks better. I've found some black paint and some sandpaper, time to do mine.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 19 February 2009, 20:46
I just got a new black badge on mine, glossy one instead of matte, looks so much better.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2009, 21:03
i sprayed grey primer, did 3 coats of the stuff, then 2 coats of satin black.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 22 February 2009, 16:46
well finally cleaned it for the first time. Im not 100% happy due to taking it to the jet wash, ratehr than cleaning it by hand. But atleast it looks more presentable.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01568.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01569.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01570.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01571.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01572.jpg)

back to black didnt work on the bumpers. i think they are way past their point!  :grin: might have to borrow a heatgun and bring them back to life.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 03 March 2009, 17:07
Pic of polybushes, ball joints and top mounts. Need fitting sometime soon!!  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/DSC00660.jpg)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 03 March 2009, 17:21
back to black just doesnt cut it :laugh:

nice new parts there too :afro:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 07 March 2009, 21:12
Car saw 116.6hp and 135ftlb of torque at JKM performance in portsmouth.
I was extremly happy with this, bearing in mind the engine has not been serviced for 25,000 miles, and i was running normal 95 petrol rather than V-power. Notice a flatspot at 3000rpm on the torque curve, hopefully pipercross filter and chip will cure this and restore full torque curve and smoothe it out :smug:
Plans for the next month or two are pipercross panel filter, and a bew chip.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/dynochart1.jpg)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 08 March 2009, 23:41
HUGE thanks to Diamond Hell for helping me fit polybushes and new top moutns and balljoints, it wouldnt have been possible without him.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 March 2009, 23:56
Meh, lots more to do under there.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 09 March 2009, 00:09
Meh, lots more to do under there.
indeed. The list never stops growing and it will never end. Its the joys of car ownership. Endless amount  of modifying followed by endless amount of repairing!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 13 March 2009, 21:15
pic from polybushed wishbone, and a goody that came in the post the other day, pipercross panel filter.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01586.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01587.jpg)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 11 April 2009, 19:24
Took some new pics today. Car needs a wash, and a decent polish which I will do before oxford meet ofcourse  :cool:
Bought a new cylinder head coolant flange as the current one leaks like a sieve.
Things i need to do are VR splitter, gti one is well past it's time as you can see in the pics, need to get new tyre (s), wheels aligned, and needs lowering! I'l see what i can sort out money wise, ive got tax to renew in june and i need to do the tyres aswell, exhaust wise id like some more grunt so back box is on the list aswell, see how that goes. Also need to go scrappy and get some bonnet lifters, need to change the method my bonnet stays up  :tongue:
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00836.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00839.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00841.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00849.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00844.jpg)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 April 2009, 00:01
Nice pics chap, need some back to black though lol!


I'll make you a new sig soon :)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 12 April 2009, 01:48
Nice pics chap, need some back to black though lol!


I'll make you a new sig soon :)
yup need back to black, and some wheel brake dust cleaner as some of it is incrusted into the wheel.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: GOLF_MK on 12 April 2009, 10:48
Get some of that liquid boot polish, my plastics were worse than that when i brought the car but they came up a treat  :smiley:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 April 2009, 10:49
I use Auto Glym bumper care, it gets messy but it does a fantastic job :)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 12 April 2009, 10:50
ive tried that kiwi boot polish but didnt really do much...WD40, or engine oil works a treat. Im gonna try boiled linseed oil next see how that goes. If not i'l have to dish out some money for WOW or something.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 12 April 2009, 10:51
I use Auto Glym bumper care, it gets messy but it does a fantastic job :)
or that aswell. Pricey buggers though haha
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: eightyeightmph on 12 April 2009, 10:53
ive tried that kiwi boot polish but didnt really do much...WD40, or engine oil works a treat. Im gonna try boiled linseed oil next see how that goes. If not i'l have to dish out some money for WOW or something.

Chemical guys back to new gel is perfect & very reasonable price too! :afro:

I'd steer clear of WD40 & definitely engine oil as it runs when it gets wet & will damage your paint! :)

Black WOW has got mixed reviews like most products, but is just far too expensive IMHO.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 April 2009, 10:54
I use Auto Glym bumper care, it gets messy but it does a fantastic job :)
or that aswell. Pricey buggers though haha

What? A fiver? LOL!


http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/autoglym-bumper-care-15-off.php


Or £6 in Halfords, lasts forever, I've had mine for almost a year and still going, you don't need to use a lot, just need to work it in.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 12 April 2009, 10:56
I use Auto Glym bumper care, it gets messy but it does a fantastic job :)
or that aswell. Pricey buggers though haha

What? A fiver? LOL!


http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/autoglym-bumper-care-15-off.php


Or £6 in Halfords, lasts forever, I've had mine for almost a year and still going, you don't need to use a lot, just need to work it in.
Oh right lol. Just checked ebay prices and there about £5-£6, so i'l pop into halfords sometime and grab it. I thought it was like £10-£15 lol
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 April 2009, 10:57
I use Auto Glym bumper care, it gets messy but it does a fantastic job :)
or that aswell. Pricey buggers though haha

What? A fiver? LOL!


http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/autoglym-bumper-care-15-off.php


Or £6 in Halfords, lasts forever, I've had mine for almost a year and still going, you don't need to use a lot, just need to work it in.
Oh right lol. Just checked ebay prices and there about £5-£6, so i'l pop into halfords sometime and grab it. I thought it was like £10-£15 lol

I wouldn't spend £10 - 15 on Bumper Care LMAO!
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 12 April 2009, 11:12
I use Auto Glym bumper care, it gets messy but it does a fantastic job :)
or that aswell. Pricey buggers though haha

What? A fiver? LOL!


http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/autoglym-bumper-care-15-off.php


Or £6 in Halfords, lasts forever, I've had mine for almost a year and still going, you don't need to use a lot, just need to work it in.
Oh right lol. Just checked ebay prices and there about £5-£6, so i'l pop into halfords sometime and grab it. I thought it was like £10-£15 lol

I wouldn't spend £10 - 15 on Bumper Care LMAO!
you're a detailing geek so i think you would  :tongue:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 April 2009, 11:24
I use Auto Glym bumper care, it gets messy but it does a fantastic job :)
or that aswell. Pricey buggers though haha

What? A fiver? LOL!


http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/autoglym-bumper-care-15-off.php


Or £6 in Halfords, lasts forever, I've had mine for almost a year and still going, you don't need to use a lot, just need to work it in.
Oh right lol. Just checked ebay prices and there about £5-£6, so i'l pop into halfords sometime and grab it. I thought it was like £10-£15 lol

I wouldn't spend £10 - 15 on Bumper Care LMAO!
you're a detailing geek so i think you would  :tongue:

:O


I just like making my car look good :P


Anyway, get your backside upto Halfords and get some bumper care, if I don't see them spotless at Oxford, I'll be angry.  :evil:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 24 April 2009, 22:47
Right, cleaned car tody ready for shady meet.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01614.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01615.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01616.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01617.jpg)


and for those who want to know how far i took drilling my airbox, here is it, tehre are also MORE holes on the front of it, you cant see it on the pic though..

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01613.jpg)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Vdubbster on 24 April 2009, 23:05
what about the splitter hey?
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 24 April 2009, 23:06
what about the splitter hey?
splitter is far from recovery. It has aweful scratches on it and has faded so much not even bumper care will sort it out.
need to get myself a new vr6 one asap.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Vdubbster on 24 April 2009, 23:10
yeh man, true. Its letting it down  :cry:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 24 April 2009, 23:12
need to get:

Coilovers
VR6 plitter
4 new tyres
tax from june onwards

and need to do:

decat pipe
chip
gearbox mount


 :smiley:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Vdubbster on 24 April 2009, 23:14
need to get:

Coilovers
VR6 plitter
4 new tyres
tax from june onwards

and need to do:

decat pipe
chip
gearbox mount


 :smiley:

then some rims  :cool:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Adam on 24 April 2009, 23:18
nowt wrong with the standard rims  :wink:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 26 April 2009, 18:40
Right. Mother said if I pass the school year, she will buy me coilovers. I aint complaining  :laugh:

Todays progress, started polishing the cam cover. Did front, top and sides, didnt do back for obvious reasons when the cam cover is still fitted to the car.
Still not finished with it yet though. Need to get some fine grit wet and dry and go over it to give the much wanted shine.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC00973.jpg)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 28 April 2009, 18:33
So, decided to paint calipers yellow. Then the rain came. So car is in the drive next to my house (owned by a shop) without the fronts.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01621.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01622.jpg)
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: shepgti on 28 April 2009, 18:37
differnt to the normal red, what paint did ya use?
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 28 April 2009, 18:39
I might do mine white?  :cool:
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 28 April 2009, 18:40
differnt to the normal red, what paint did ya use?
exactly why i went for it. Used hammerite smooth yellow. Applies directly to rust and no need for primer or laquer. And head resistant. Drie in 1 hour too.
I might do mine white?  :cool:
i did pick up the white pot of hammerite at the sop, but i thought yelow would be better.
Title: Re: kharekatoh's mk3 GTI 8v - NEW PICS
Post by: Khare on 29 April 2009, 17:50
Running US style indicator sidelights now.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01623.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01626.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01625.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: eightyeightmph on 29 April 2009, 18:00
Not MOT friendly dude, what are you gonna do for indicators?  :huh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: Khare on 29 April 2009, 18:03
Not MOT friendly dude, what are you gonna do for indicators?  :huh:

Its fine mate. Sidelight bulb is very weak, enough to light up the indicator though. When you turn on the indicator however, the bigger, more powerful bulb shines through far greater. You can still see the blink nice and clear even in the daylight. I just checked  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 29 April 2009, 18:15
Looks nice but awaiting the first "f**k it, I've been pulled by the fuzz" thread. :P
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: Khare on 29 April 2009, 18:17
Looks nice but awaiting the first "f**k it, I've been pulled by the fuzz" thread. :P
aslong as i dont get pulled before tomorrow at 10am then im fine :tongue: (very illegal tyres)

if they do pull me over then i'l be cooperative, and there and then on the spot i'l pull the sidelights out so its back to normal. But if US cars can have it, and UTA can have it too, then i'l be fine.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: VR6-Joe on 29 April 2009, 18:18
Never had a single problem with the police. LOADS of people over on Ed38 run them with no problems too
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: Wayne on 29 April 2009, 20:21
Looks ok but I am still sure it is illegal.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: Khare on 29 April 2009, 21:21
well drove down the road and aint been pulled yet  :grin:

Night time pics and a vid to show you the brightness.

Sorry for quality.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01627.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4TEaKISWVU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4TEaKISWVU)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: JC on 29 April 2009, 21:33
Looks nice but awaiting the first "f**k it, I've been pulled by the fuzz" thread. :P

yep and also

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/chuff69/gayalarm.gif)

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: Khare on 29 April 2009, 21:33
LMAO Chuff!

We aint gay lol, we are just good mates  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: JC on 29 April 2009, 21:34
just admit it

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/chuff69/yourafag.jpg)

 :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: Khare on 29 April 2009, 21:35
I wont admit it cos it aint true!   :evil:


(http://www.plustwo.co.uk/v1/wp-content/chuff.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 29 April 2009, 21:40
Chuff is a lovely lad ;)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - UPDATE
Post by: Khare on 30 April 2009, 20:59
another pic of it. Shows it more clear.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01628.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: Khare on 02 May 2009, 19:14
Today i fixed drivers saggy door, thanks to reading up an old thread here about sticking a wheel nut in the door hinge and closing the door, and also, fixed electric sunrood and ABS and airbag lights. Fuse kept blowing at first, and today i found a fuse in my toolbox so i tempted luck, and when i turned ignition it didnt blow, so tried sunroof and it worked!  :cool: just in time for summer too!

On the downside, when i went to adjust door striker i came across two very rounded bolts, so need to somehow remove them rounded bolts and get some new ones from the scrap yard.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: Khare on 03 May 2009, 15:20
Golf 3

To do:
•   Rear number plate light
•   Locking wheels nuts
•   Adjust drivers door
•   Clean throttle body
•   Drill air box
•   Full wet-vac clean inside
•   Full outside clean, wax and polish
•   Replace bumper air vents with cold air intakes

•   Fix outside air temperature sensor on MFA
•   Replace: Spark plugs
                 Oil and oil filter
                 Distributor cap and rotor
                 Air filter
                 HT leads

•   Improve aerial
•   Fix sunroof
•   Fit new speakers
•   Fix tire pressures
•   Red GTI front badge

•   VR6 front splitter
•   Wire hazard lights to alarm
•   Fix 3rd brake light
•   Buy and fit hella quads
•   Align hella lamps
•   Spray VW badge black

•   Fix windscreen washer bottle
•   Fit poly bushes, new ball joints and new top mounts
•   4 wheel alignment
•   Fix water leak from the front head connector

•   Install chip
•   Install new steering rack
•   New gearbox mount
•   Gearbox oil service


Extras
•   Paint brake calipers
•   Polish valve cover
•   Touch up scratches
•   De-cat
•   Coilovers                         

My to do list. Nearly all done.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: Khare on 05 May 2009, 22:46
trip to scrappy today and i bought boot struts, new mirror cover to replace my broken one, and another cam cover, to spend time on it polishing it up nicely.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01632.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01633.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 05 May 2009, 23:01
Did my guide help?  :kiss:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: Khare on 05 May 2009, 23:02
Did my guide help?  :kiss:
not but the phone call did  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 05 May 2009, 23:04
Did my guide help?  :kiss:
not but the phone call did  :grin:
:grin: :grin: :grin: Same thing really :P looks good my man :)

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: Khare on 05 May 2009, 23:05
cheers dude. Now i can show my rudder and keel under the bonnet  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: dublove on 05 May 2009, 23:28
Looking good dude, same colour as mines. colours mystic blue but look more of a metalic purple to me.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: Khare on 05 May 2009, 23:32
Looking good dude, same colour as mines. colours mystic blue but look more of a metalic purple to me.

yeah my mates always say to me "mate you're car is purple" and im like "No, for the 100th time, its mystical blue!"  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: shepgti on 05 May 2009, 23:35
to be fair its deffo purple  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: Khare on 05 May 2009, 23:35
to be fair its deffo purple  :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
shhhhh  :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - US Spec indicators
Post by: shepgti on 05 May 2009, 23:36
:evil:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - bonnet lifters
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 05 May 2009, 23:46
I'm with shep :)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - bonnet lifters
Post by: Khare on 05 May 2009, 23:50
I'm with shep :)
ok bogie colour car  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - bonnet lifters
Post by: Wayne on 05 May 2009, 23:54
Sorry I think it is purple.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - bonnet lifters
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 05 May 2009, 23:57
I'm with shep :)
ok bogie colour car  :grin:

Sod off lol!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - bonnet lifters
Post by: Khare on 05 May 2009, 23:58
Sorry I think it is purple.
dont be sorry. It is purple  :grin: i dont know why VW called it blue.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - bonnet lifters
Post by: dubsport on 06 May 2009, 03:59
i remember when i was going to pic up my mystic blue mk3 and i said to my dad i dunno why they call it blue its blatently purple and he said thats why its 'mystic'  :rolleyes: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - bonnet lifters
Post by: Dec on 06 May 2009, 07:54
Mines purple :P But when I was polishing and waxing it at the weekend, in the sun it was blatently blue :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - bonnet lifters
Post by: Khare on 06 May 2009, 12:18
Mines purple :P But when I was polishing and waxing it at the weekend, in the sun it was blatently blue :cool:
i find it the other way round. In the sun its purple but shade its blue.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - bonnet lifters
Post by: Khare on 06 May 2009, 13:27
Today recieved a decal through the post.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01634.jpg)
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC01635.jpg)


Those of you who speak spanish will know what it means.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Mew on 06 May 2009, 13:28
the tw@t? :huh:




























joke :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 06 May 2009, 13:30
 :tongue:


nope. Ok i'l translate it for you, cos if not we will be here days.


As we all know the spanish animal is the bull, from bull fighting.
El toro = the bull

El torito = the little bull

just fancied having something different and unusual on the car, in an unusual spot.

Looking at them pics I really need to respray the hella covers!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Mew on 06 May 2009, 13:32
Might sound like a nob, but unfortunately i'd expect more broken mirrors and piss if you leave it parked up with that on there.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 06 May 2009, 13:33
Might sound like a nob, but unfortunately i'd expect more broken mirrors and piss if you leave it parked up with that on there.

i know, but then again chavvy sh!ts dont judge what i put on my car or not. One day, i WILL catch them on the job and they will remember to steer well clear of a mk3 golf gti.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: DANNYGCL on 06 May 2009, 13:43
Its different.

+1 on the chave hate  :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: jamrock on 06 May 2009, 13:49
looks cool KK  :cool:
know all you need is a sticker on the back windscreen
TORO TORO
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 06 May 2009, 13:50
looks cool KK  :cool:
know all you need is a sticker on the back windscreen
TORO TORO

hahaha that would be very unique  :grin:


ive got another "el torito" sticker here on my desk, i was sent two because the first parcel was lost in the post, so was given another one free for inconvenience.

Trying to think where i could put it.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: jamrock on 06 May 2009, 13:53
on the other side. it will look like horns!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 06 May 2009, 13:56
on the other side. it will look like horns!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

nah would look wierd lol  :grin:

stop taking the pi$$!  :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: jamrock on 06 May 2009, 13:57
nah really. it would look good.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 06 May 2009, 13:58
nah really. it would look good.
nah not doing other side. Needs to be somewhere different. It doesnt even have to be on the car lol. I might jsut keep it just incase the current one somehow comes off.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Wayne on 06 May 2009, 14:05
Different
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: DANNYGCL on 06 May 2009, 16:02
I bought 3 GolfGTI.co.uk stickers, 2 on the back passenger windows(each side) and one in my bedroom window  :evil:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: dublove on 07 May 2009, 02:12
where did you get custom stickers made? was it pricey? btw i still agree its a deep purple! I prefere the vr6 purplish colour tho!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 07 May 2009, 09:08
where did you get custom stickers made? was it pricey? btw i still agree its a deep purple! I prefere the vr6 purplish colour tho!

got it done here http://www.volksdepot.co.uk/ (http://www.volksdepot.co.uk/)

just email contact@volksdepot.co.uk and tell them what you want. It cost me £10 including delivery.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: LazyLunatic on 07 May 2009, 12:28
£10! give me a shout if ya need another sticker done, tis what i do at work ;)

btw looks :cool: liking the differentness lol

LL ;)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 07 May 2009, 12:30
£10! give me a shout if ya need another sticker done, tis what i do at work ;)

btw looks :cool: liking the differentness lol

LL ;)

if i need some more done i'l give you a shout mate. Cheers for the offer  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Diamond Hell on 08 May 2009, 11:06
Would have been better spent on things your car actually needs, like CV boots.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 08 May 2009, 11:09
Would have been better spent on things your car actually needs, like CV boots.  :rolleyes:

Yeah I know.... :sad:
They will get done soon dont worry  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: sharpie on 09 May 2009, 00:13
you might as well have bought "gay bandito"
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: shepgti on 09 May 2009, 00:15
you might as well have bought "gay bandito"

why did you need it for your car??
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: sharpie on 09 May 2009, 00:16
you might as well have bought "gay bandito"

why did you need it for your car??

this is what happens when you attempt to be funny.
(http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/BDD_tumbleweed_head_perfectuk.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: shepgti on 09 May 2009, 00:17
you might as well have bought "gay bandito"

why did you need it for your car??

this is what happens when you attempt to be funny.
(http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/BDD_tumbleweed_head_perfectuk.jpg)

i fall into a bush? :huh:   if you say so...
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: sharpie on 09 May 2009, 00:18
it's tumbleweed you spazmasoid.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 09 May 2009, 00:27
it's tumbleweed you spazmasoid.

You hobnob LMAO! What kinda word is that?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 May 2009, 09:46
One like Twunt?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 10 May 2009, 17:10
you might as well have bought "gay bandito"

why did you need it for your car??

this is what happens when you attempt to be funny.
(http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/BDD_tumbleweed_head_perfectuk.jpg)
is that were you spend your time then sharpie?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: gjroe78 on 11 May 2009, 13:27
you might as well have bought "gay bandito"

why did you need it for your car??

this is what happens when you attempt to be funny.
(http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/BDD_tumbleweed_head_perfectuk.jpg)
is that were you spend your time then sharpie?
What !!! You mean he's not really funny ? christ i wish someone had said earlier  :lipsrsealed: :embarassed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Bonnet decal
Post by: Khare on 13 May 2009, 13:56
here are US Spec lights in action. Pic taken at the national mk2 meet.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/national%20mk2%20meet/DSC01066.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/national%20mk2%20meet/DSC01069.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/national%20mk2%20meet/DSC01092.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/national%20mk2%20meet/DSC01011.jpg)

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: gjroe78 on 13 May 2009, 14:25
They look good mate, watch out for the rozzers though as they will stop you thinking they are ya fogs :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 13 May 2009, 14:26
They look good mate, watch out for the rozzers though as they will stop you thinking they are ya fogs :wink:

yeah, ive got nothing illegal, so im all good. Ive past afew cppers now and they've not stopped me, so far so good  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: gjroe78 on 13 May 2009, 14:37
They look good mate, watch out for the rozzers though as they will stop you thinking they are ya fogs :wink:

yeah, ive got nothing illegal, so im all good. Ive past afew cppers now and they've not stopped me, so far so good  :smiley:
what no horse porn in the boot  :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 13 May 2009, 14:41
They look good mate, watch out for the rozzers though as they will stop you thinking they are ya fogs :wink:

yeah, ive got nothing illegal, so im all good. Ive past afew cppers now and they've not stopped me, so far so good  :smiley:
what no horse porn in the boot  :laugh:
you sick sick man!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: gjroe78 on 13 May 2009, 14:45
 :shocked:  :tongue:   :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 13 May 2009, 14:58
The orange indicator lights look sweet mate, decided to give them a go myself last week and havent been pulled yet. Got the white LED's in the glovebox just incase though!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VR6-Joe on 13 May 2009, 17:06
I've been running U.S style running lights on my new mk3 for a week and a half with no problems. Been to Yarmouth and Ipswich and had no bother from the the police, think the police are all pretty safe if you're not driving like a twit
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 13 May 2009, 22:50
Dude, ive been running no numberplate for 5 months now... :P
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 13 May 2009, 22:59
Dude, ive been running no numberplate for 5 months now... :P

But when Mikey gets his badge... :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: jamrock on 13 May 2009, 23:07
looking sweet as always KK  :cool: :cool:
Especially liking the US lights
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 13 May 2009, 23:11
Dude, ive been running no numberplate for 5 months now... :P

But when Mikey gets his badge... :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:

Have you ever watched that program police interceptors thats filmed round here?

I saw two of the guys who are on it driving around in a mondao ST police car today and they just looked at me and drove off the other way :P

Mikey had better be on my side haha
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 13 May 2009, 23:16
looking sweet as always KK  :cool: :cool:
Especially liking the US lights


cheers dude :afro:
Positive comments make me feel its all worth it.



and Dec, I watch that program all the time, I'l look out for you  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 14 May 2009, 08:47
US lights look awesome! car is looking pretty sweet, although i cant help but think it needs some awesome alloys......
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 14 May 2009, 10:12
looking sweet as always KK  :cool: :cool:
Especially liking the US lights


cheers dude :afro:
Positive comments make me feel its all worth it.



and Dec, I watch that program all the time, I'l look out for you  :grin:

Haha yer man, never know, i might make an appearence one day lol!!!

One of my mates was on there :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 14 May 2009, 11:41
I thought you were getting rid of the MK3 khare?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 May 2009, 11:51
US lights look awesome! car is looking pretty sweet, although i cant help but think it needs some awesome alloys......
It definitly does...but

I thought you were getting rid of the MK3 khare?

as shady said, come next insurance renewal and im jumping back in a mk2. Im only going to do mods that are cheap/tranferable/free, so alloys would be a no no as mk2 are 4 stud and mk3 are 5 stud, so not transferable.
If i was to keep the car id stick some lenso BSX on it.
Stuff that I will be doing to the car however, are coilovers hopefully mid-end of august, de-cat and chip, and then some other small/cheap stuff that might pop along. I shall take out the coilovers when i sell it and stick them on the mk2, and i dont know weather to sell the hellas seperatly to try and get more money for it or not....
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 14 May 2009, 11:52
I thought you were getting rid of the MK3 khare?

.................. :shocked:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: dubcheryl on 14 May 2009, 11:53
I thought you were getting rid of the MK3 khare?

.................. :shocked:

Woop! Back to your roots khare :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 May 2009, 11:57
I thought you were getting rid of the MK3 khare?

.................. :shocked:

Woop! Back to your roots khare :wink:
yup, indeed. Relised my mistake halfway through ownership of the mk3  :grin:
Hate to admit it but chuff and Diamond Hell were both right, they tried to persuade me to stick to mk2s but i ignored their advice. Wish i'd have listened to them  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 14 May 2009, 11:58
I thought you were getting rid of the MK3 khare?

.................. :shocked:

Woop! Back to your roots khare :wink:

f**k MK2s  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 14 May 2009, 12:00
Good luck with the mk2, I would sell the Hellas on their own they fetch good money.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: dubcheryl on 14 May 2009, 12:05
I thought you were getting rid of the MK3 khare?

.................. :shocked:

Woop! Back to your roots khare :wink:

f**k MK2s  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Only cuz you know they're the best!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 May 2009, 12:24
I thought you were getting rid of the MK3 khare?

.................. :shocked:

Woop! Back to your roots khare :wink:

f**k MK2s  :grin: :grin: :grin:

F*T mk3s  :laugh:


Good luck with the mk2, I would sell the Hellas on their own they fetch good money.

yeah i think thats what im gonna do. Need to make a trip to scrappy then to get wireing loom as i chopped mine up to make us spec lights  :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 14 May 2009, 12:25
I thought you were getting rid of the MK3 khare?

.................. :shocked:

Woop! Back to your roots khare :wink:

f**k MK2s  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Only cuz you know they're the best!

........................... :rolleyes: YEAH OK! :rolleyes:

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 14 May 2009, 12:32
Still prefer my mk3 over my old mk2, but thats like comparing sleeping on concrete and having a world class massage.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 14 May 2009, 12:54
I agree with Dec, great comparison :)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 14 May 2009, 12:56
I agree with Dec, great comparison :)

+1 :D and no i have never been in a mk2, but i just have a feeling ;) :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VR6-Joe on 14 May 2009, 13:07
Having owned a Mk2 1.6 CL, a Mk2 GTI and 4 Mk3's, I can happily say I agree with Dec too lol
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 May 2009, 13:14
Having owned a Mk2 1.6 CL, a Mk2 GTI and 4 Mk3's, I can happily say I agree with Dec too lol
i dont deny it. mk3 is soooooo much more comfortable, so much quieter and well built, but if you want a quoet and comfy car then buy a prius. A mk2 is a car that drives well on the limit, and 90% of the time i drive it to the limit (within reason), so i want a car that is good for driving fast, a car thats enjoyable and a car that recognizes me.
Mk3 jsut aint doing it for me.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 14 May 2009, 13:29
 :smug: Should have got a 16v if your looking for those things :laugh:

Mine makes me smile everytime I drive it! Still want more power but its not lacking it at all!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 14 May 2009, 13:48
MK2 FTW !  :grin:

Only reason I'd get a MK3 and that's for a VR6  :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 May 2009, 13:49
:smug: Should have got a 16v if your looking for those things :laugh:

Mine makes me smile everytime I drive it! Still want more power but its not lacking it at all!

Im on about driving to the limit everywhere not just in a straight line. The mk3 is a stable and good handling car, but the mk2 is just better. Anyway the mk2 will be ABF'd, so it will have good power to weight ratio  :smug:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 14 May 2009, 14:02
:smug: Should have got a 16v if your looking for those things :laugh:

Mine makes me smile everytime I drive it! Still want more power but its not lacking it at all!

Im on about driving to the limit everywhere not just in a straight line. The mk3 is a stable and good handling car, but the mk2 is just better. Anyway the mk2 will be ABF'd, so it will have good power to weight ratio  :smug:

My mk3 handles a lot better than my mk2. Its all about the suspension, and I have £400 coilovers which are a lot better than the free shocks + springs I had on my mk2 :)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 14 May 2009, 14:09
mk2 is lighter, so mayb thats what it was. mayb polybush the mk3. rear beam, and mayb arb ones?

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: dubcheryl on 14 May 2009, 14:17
Dont bother! mk2 all the way, proper drivers car imo, and yes i have driven mk3, both 8 & 16v
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 May 2009, 14:33
mk2 is lighter, so mayb thats what it was. mayb polybush the mk3. rear beam, and mayb arb ones?


The mk2 had hottuning coilies, but the mk3 has new top mounts ball joints and polybushed wishbones. Mk2 stillhandled far better, the weight plays a huge part in it. Mk2 all the way dude.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 14 May 2009, 14:35
But if the mk3 is standard suspension you can't compare.

Only way to do a true comparison is drive both on standard suspension OR both on coilovers. Try throwing a standard suspension mk2 around :wink: will be the same as the mk3.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: davero on 16 May 2009, 00:48
MK2 FTW !  :grin:

Only reason I'd get a MK3 and that's for a VR6  :tongue:
Makes me smile every time i drive it. The soundtrack is amazing.   
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 May 2009, 00:53
But if the mk3 is standard suspension you can't compare.

Only way to do a true comparison is drive both on standard suspension OR both on coilovers. Try throwing a standard suspension mk2 around :wink: will be the same as the mk3.
I was running about in the standard suspension on the mk2, also bear in mind the 1.6 doesnt have ARBs like the gti, and even then it handled better than the mk3.
I should hopefully be getting coilies end up august, same coilies i had on the mk2 (hottuning) so that way i can really compare evenly.
Mk3 atm aint on standard suspension anyway, got lowering springs.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: davero on 16 May 2009, 00:55
Lowering springs ruin mk3's handling very quickly, your shocks are probably shagged.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 May 2009, 00:57
Lowering springs ruin mk3's handling very quickly, your shocks are probably shagged.
Dont know bout shocks but i know the springs are. Diamond hell had a look at them when the front was polybushed and he said they were <insert proper word here> touching together, basically they were fooked.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: davero on 16 May 2009, 01:02
Lowering springs ruin mk3's handling very quickly, your shocks are probably shagged.
Dont know bout shocks but i know the springs are. Diamond hell had a look at them when the front was polybushed and he said they were <insert proper word here> touching together, basically they were fooked.
.
If you put a decent set of shocks/springs on or coilovers, I gaurantee it would feel like a new car.
My personal preference is shocks and springs(koni/Eibach), for both ride and handling.
The only downside is looks
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 16 May 2009, 09:17
Mk3 were underdamped from new so if your running lowering springs then it will not help the handling, mine was loads better on coilovers.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 May 2009, 11:05
i know coilovers will make it feel like new, hence me buying them (and partly lowering)
But you cant compare cars taht have the same suspension near enough but one weighs 900kilos and the other over a ton.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 16 May 2009, 11:10
i know coilovers will make it feel like new, hence me buying them (and partly lowering)
But you cant compare cars taht have the same suspension near enough but one weighs 900kilos and the other over a ton.

There is 250kg between a mk2 and mk3 i believe.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 May 2009, 11:12
thought mk3 was 1050kg  :huh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 16 May 2009, 11:32
Nope, the mk3 is 1285 kg and the mk2 is 1050 kg I think.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 May 2009, 11:38
Nope, the mk3 is 1285 kg and the mk2 is 1050 kg I think.
i swear i read on here mk3 is 940kg and mk3 is 1050kg.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Adam on 16 May 2009, 12:11
Nope, the mk3 is 1285 kg and the mk2 is 1050 kg I think.
i swear i read on here mk3 is 940kg and mk3 is 1050kg.

Yea, your right. Im sure that was on someone's signature...."Slimfast" was it sharpies?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 May 2009, 12:28
Nope, the mk3 is 1285 kg and the mk2 is 1050 kg I think.
i swear i read on here mk3 is 940kg and mk3 is 1050kg.

Yea, your right. Im sure that was on someone's signature...."Slimfast" was it sharpies?
yup thats the one.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: davero on 16 May 2009, 14:04
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_weight_of_a_voltswagon_golf_mk3 (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_weight_of_a_voltswagon_golf_mk3)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 May 2009, 14:05
nice one  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shepgti on 16 May 2009, 14:09
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/Detail.aspx?deriv=5884
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 May 2009, 14:10
hmmm debatable now  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: sharpie on 16 May 2009, 15:23
my sig was 1250 for mk3 and 950 mk2. 950 is probably a little optimistic truth be told, but not by the time all the sh!te has been taken out.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 16 May 2009, 15:24
thought non gti mk2s were 940kilos from factory and gtis were 960 or something.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 17 May 2009, 00:15
If you check the handbook, from memory the parkers figure was close.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: sharpie on 17 May 2009, 08:47
ideally you want figures from someone who has actually weighed one.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: DANNYGCL on 17 May 2009, 10:13
handbook!  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: sharpie on 17 May 2009, 10:56
handbook talks sh!te.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: DANNYGCL on 17 May 2009, 13:10
Fair enough  :cool:

Thanks for the correction  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 May 2009, 13:11
i talk sh!te.

 :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 17 May 2009, 16:11
I would not think the handbook is that far out to be honest, the figures are used for TUV etc so have to be close.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 17 May 2009, 16:23
handbook says 1110 kg.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 May 2009, 21:45
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


exhaust


(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/23052009015.jpg)



(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/23052009016.jpg)


and it was free, swapped it for the standard backbox  :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: uta_flyinghigh on 24 May 2009, 19:20
Can't wait to see it in the flesh next week and compare it with mine  :smiley:

UTA
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: sharpie on 25 May 2009, 14:37
you might have put it on straight though.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Horney on 25 May 2009, 15:10
Does it sound good?

Nick
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: JC on 25 May 2009, 16:51
you might have put it on straight though.


 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

+1
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 25 May 2009, 18:22
yeah still needs adjusting  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 08 June 2009, 20:36
VR6 splitter today.

Going on...
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/08062009044.jpg)


On!
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/08062009045.jpg)

and also...
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/08062009046.jpg)

leather gear gaitor from a fiesta RS, was a freeby so rude not to lol
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 08 June 2009, 21:08
Thought someone slapped you around the head and knocked some sense into you!
Where's the MK2!  :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 08 June 2009, 21:10
oh....ermmm...about the mk2....
(http://www.etftrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/running_away.gif)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VR6-Joe on 12 June 2009, 04:06
I'm actually confused..

I was going through the Mk3 picture thread in the Mk3 section, and noticed that your car is an N reg GTI but with rectangle repeaters and wing mounted aerial?

However there's another N reg on the same page, with oval repeaters and a roof mounted aerial?

Your car is a fake GTI!!! :grin:


.. Joke, but seriously, I'm confused.. I thought all N reg Mk3's had oval repeaters?

Come to think of it, my 1.6 has oval repeaters and that's also an N reg?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 12 June 2009, 08:37
I'm actually confused..

I was going through the Mk3 picture thread in the Mk3 section, and noticed that your car is an N reg GTI but with rectangle repeaters and wing mounted aerial?

However there's another N reg on the same page, with oval repeaters and a roof mounted aerial?

Your car is a fake GTI!!! :grin:


.. Joke, but seriously, I'm confused.. I thought all N reg Mk3's had oval repeaters?

Come to think of it, my 1.6 has oval repeaters and that's also an N reg?

The changeover was 1995 however a lot of cars were unsold, I have seen 1996's with square repeaters.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 12 June 2009, 09:08
Joe got owned.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VR6-Joe on 12 June 2009, 11:11
Joe got owned.

Hardly got owned Dec, was just curious as to why he had rectangle repeaters, had no idea that the change over was '95 seeing as I'm pretty sure my car is a '95

It's just something I didn't know tbh :undecided:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: dubsport on 12 June 2009, 17:58
Joe got owned.

 :grin:  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 11 January 2010, 23:57
Wow this thread is old! I'll dig it out.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/RtechUKdynochart.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_0052.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Yr4uTwW6I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Yr4uTwW6I)

 :smiley: :smiley:


Some updates have probably been done since the last update here.
kent 285 cam is put on and has been there for a number of months and also got a s/s cat back system.
New steering rack is on along with new inner arb bushes and new cv gaiters and cleaned out the joints.

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 12 January 2010, 08:41
nice! been there, digging out a thread! we just gotta try and keep up!

happy with the figures? quite good considering its a N reg. really wish i'd made it, buts a 3-4hour drive :(

nice plans too, you going with polybushes? i gotta to say it makes a of difference.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 12 January 2010, 10:51
it was a 3 and a half hour drive for me! You should of come, was a good day out  :smiley:
Very happy with the figures, it's an 8v so being pretty close to a 16v is an achievement!
Already have polybushes mate, not all over, just the wishbones but it did make a hell of an improvement!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 12 January 2010, 11:02
it was a 3 and a half hour drive for me! You should of come, was a good day out  :smiley:
Very happy with the figures, it's an 8v so being pretty close to a 16v is an achievement!
Already have polybushes mate, not all over, just the wishbones but it did make a hell of an improvement!

haha i bet it would of cost me more in fuel! lol i know i really should have gone.
you going to polybush the arb bushes? i got the lot and it has made a big difference, totally worth it!

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 12 January 2010, 11:49
Cost me about £60 on fuel, then I was robbed £20 in the services for early morning breakfast for myself and girlfriend.
I do intend to poly bush the whole lot, but concentrating on engine at the moment. After engine work is complete (which it never will be cos its ever going!) I'll try and get hold of a decent suspension kit as mine will need replacing at some point.
Along with the suspension change I might arb the rest of the front.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 12 January 2010, 12:58
Nice figures mate! Although not that close to 16v figures I dont think is it? :undecided:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 12 January 2010, 13:12
Nice figures mate! Although not that close to 16v figures I dont think is it? :undecided:

+1 i thought i was just reading it wrong
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dec on 12 January 2010, 13:20
Nice figures mate! Although not that close to 16v figures I dont think is it? :undecided:

+1 i thought i was just reading it wrong

My 16v came out as 163bhp :undecided: and 133 at the wheels (which matched my mates VR)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 12 January 2010, 13:48
Nice figures mate! Although not that close to 16v figures I dont think is it? :undecided:

138 @ the fly is *about* the same as a 16v KR, not bad for a 8v tug, but the MK2 16v KR would still eat him for dust  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 12 January 2010, 13:49
Nice figures mate! Although not that close to 16v figures I dont think is it? :undecided:

138 @ the fly is *about* the same as a 16v KR, not bad for a 8v tug, but the MK2 16v KR would still eat him for dust  :grin:

i was reading it wrong :D

....more work to do yet khare :D
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 January 2010, 23:27
....more work to do yet khare :D

Don't say that - it darkens my horizons.  :cry:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 14 January 2010, 21:26
....more work to do yet khare :D

Don't say that - it darkens my horizons.  :cry:

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 :kiss:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 21 January 2010, 16:12
renewed insurance with brentacre, and any cosmetic mods including air filter and exhaust system is included in the insurance at no extra cost, so my mods are all declared. So expect to see exhaust manifold on soon along  :smiley: Vernier pulley and remap will be next on the list and that should be my engine mods done to achieve 150 horses  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 23 January 2010, 08:56
nice! will be a nice lump you'll have under the bonnet then!

good work :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Mikester on 23 January 2010, 18:57
Good effort in this thread.

Well done.

Im waiting for a youtube vid of this on the strip against a ABF :)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: GuessWho on 23 January 2010, 18:58
I'm genuinely impressed.

Well done.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 January 2010, 22:33
thanks guys :smiley:

Even better plans for it now though. Had a nice long chat with Danny_p and he suggested some awesome ideas.
He is gonna check for me a few things about injectors from Saabs, he says the saab 9000 turbo injectors are a direct swap for the 8v ones and cos they are the bosch green tops they will provide far better fuel delivery and more power. As he owes me an ECU, he is going to speak to a friend of his that works with emerald boxes and he is gonna get hold of one, we shall then fine tune it and try and get that fuel/air ratio back to 12.5:1, and as well as emerald ecu an ABF throttle body will also provide better air flow  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:. He was also talking bout turboing rather than supercharging, saying it would be easier to turbo it and give better power too, and still keep the costs down thanks to cheap subaru turbos laying about. Boost is for when insurance is far cheaper though, so not until at least a years time.
Keep watching this space :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 23 January 2010, 22:35
renewed insurance with brentacre, and any cosmetic mods including air filter and exhaust system is included in the insurance at no extra cost, so my mods (except cam) are all declared. So expect to see exhaust manifold on soon along  :smiley: Vernier pulley and remap will be next on the list and that should be my engine mods done to achieve 150 horses  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

So you have now posted on a open forum that you have undeclared mods.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 January 2010, 22:59
most young people have nothing declared, and for my first two years of driving I declared nothing.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 23 January 2010, 23:14
 :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 January 2010, 23:30
 :rolleyes:

Silly boy.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Mew on 24 January 2010, 10:04
You do know it's very likely that "specialist" companies like them keep an eye on forums, especially the ones you answer with when they ask "are you a member of any clubs or forums?" :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 24 January 2010, 10:11
i hope you declared that non standard tax disc young man
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 24 January 2010, 16:16
i hope you declared that non standard tax disc young man
huh?  :huh:

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 24 January 2010, 16:19
just a small dig at the insurance jobsworths  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 24 January 2010, 18:11
 :grin:
ah well edited out now  :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: JC on 24 January 2010, 18:15
:grin:
ah well edited out now  :laugh:

how mcu ( for the forum charitee ) for me to delete the scren prints i took  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: GuessWho on 24 January 2010, 18:16
Brentcare, check.

:lipsrsealed: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 24 January 2010, 18:19
anyway update.

Took the washer jets out and opened them up to remove all the sludge inside and god there was a lot of it in there! That was over winter only too as I cleaned them out during the summer!
Topped up all fluids and tightened up PAS belt, finally no more screeching or jumpy steering  :smiley: :smiley: While I was at it I also aligned my ns full beam as it was pointing at the pavement  :smiley:
Also cleaned the inside of the car as it had been neglected over winter. Need to do the outside this week sometime to get rid of winter rain and salt.

:grin:
ah well edited out now  :laugh:

how mcu ( for the forum charitee ) for me to delete the scren prints i took  :grin:
Eat mayo for the next meet?  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 24 January 2010, 19:50
:grin:
ah well edited out now  :laugh:

Still in my post, plus you loads of other posts about the cam.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Mikester on 24 January 2010, 19:59
I saw it too, but ceeb to post anything about it. lol.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 24 January 2010, 21:03
ah well :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 02 February 2010, 14:27
finally stuck on some cool dust caps. Dad gave them to me a few years ago but cos they are anti theft they had the screws, which my dad had lost. Today I went to the DIY store and bought some new screws and fitted them. They look sweet  :cool:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/02022010230.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 02 February 2010, 19:47
^^Bad move, have seen them weld on to the valves before now.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 02 February 2010, 19:49
^^Bad move, have seen them weld on to the valves before now.
Don't worry I check tire pressures often so they will be coming on and off on a weekly basis.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 14:44
ABF conversion on he horizon  :evil:


Called insurers and conversion would cost me one off payment of £140. So before the summer holidays I shall have an ABF under the bonnet  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 18 February 2010, 15:58
Can I ask what is the point of fitting an ABF.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 16:00
the 8v is slowly dying, and I've got about 3000 miles to cover during the summer holidays and I'm pretty sure the car wouldn't make it as it is.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 16:02
the 8v is slowly dying, and I've got about 3000 miles to cover during the summer holidays and I'm pretty sure the car wouldn't make it as it is.

Dying?
I thought it was running like a beast, and making nearly as much as an ABF?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Dan34 on 18 February 2010, 16:04
the 8v is slowly dying, and I've got about 3000 miles to cover during the summer holidays and I'm pretty sure the car wouldn't make it as it is.

3000miles! you youring the uk or something?  :grin:

cant believe your loosing the 8v though  :cry:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 18 February 2010, 16:06
the 8v is slowly dying, and I've got about 3000 miles to cover during the summer holidays and I'm pretty sure the car wouldn't make it as it is.

Dying?
I thought it was running like a beast, and making nearly as much as an ABF?

+1 even if this is the case I cannot see the point of fitting an ABF, your going to need a lot of parts plus wiring to sort, a lot of work for very little gain plus harder / more expensive to tune.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 16:24
the 8v is slowly dying, and I've got about 3000 miles to cover during the summer holidays and I'm pretty sure the car wouldn't make it as it is.

Dying?
I thought it was running like a beast, and making nearly as much as an ABF?
It was, but since I had that oil leak it's been running a tad flat.

the 8v is slowly dying, and I've got about 3000 miles to cover during the summer holidays and I'm pretty sure the car wouldn't make it as it is.

3000miles! you youring the uk or something?  :grin:

cant believe your loosing the 8v though  :cry:
Going to the most northwestern part of Spain, then down to Portugal, then over to Madrid, then back to north west Spain, then back to the UK. I'm calculating about 3500 miles or so.

the 8v is slowly dying, and I've got about 3000 miles to cover during the summer holidays and I'm pretty sure the car wouldn't make it as it is.

Dying?
I thought it was running like a beast, and making nearly as much as an ABF?

+1 even if this is the case I cannot see the point of fitting an ABF, your going to need a lot of parts plus wiring to sort, a lot of work for very little gain plus harder / more expensive to tune.
Not that hard fitting an ABF, remember that the golf 3 was meant to have the ABF ass standard, so everything is pretty much there.
ABF is far more tunable, at an expense, but worth it.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 18 February 2010, 16:41
Golf 3 was not meant to have the ABF as standard, VW only fitted when they knew the 8v could not hack it plus the VR was aimed at a different market.

Still seems mad to me all that work for 10bhp as yours is around 140 I believe.

Why not fit a VR would be a better bet.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 16:50
Golf 3 was not meant to have the ABF as standard, VW only fitted when they knew the 8v could not hack it plus the VR was aimed at a different market.

Still seems mad to me all that work for 10bhp as yours is around 140 I believe.

Why not fit a VR would be a better bet.

1bhp more but a different output all together. 180 is easy with some simple tweaks and a VR would be to high on insurance, plus the cost of a VR engine is far higher.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 18:46
30bhp from simple tweaks?  :huh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 18:48
30bhp from simple tweaks?  :huh:
4 branch, some light porting, filter and a service according to Mr Hell.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 18:52
I'm not saying anything  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 18:57
Hey, I didn't make it up  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 18 February 2010, 20:11
I think your going to need more than that to get 180bhp.

Still seems madness to me.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Mew on 18 February 2010, 20:15
I think your going to need more than that to get 180bhp.

Still seems madness to me.

But you thought that Vectra was a good idea.....
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 18 February 2010, 20:20
I think your going to need more than that to get 180bhp.

Still seems madness to me.

But you thought that Vectra was a good idea.....

Don't drag that into it, tell me what is the point of fitting a ABF to this car when you can go out and buy the same car.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 18 February 2010, 20:23
Because he won't be able to sell an 8v for the price of a 16v.

and we all know he'll end up getting a non-turbo scooby with a hood scoop  :grin:  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Mew on 18 February 2010, 20:24
Because it can work out cheaper, he might want to do it/enjoy it, if it's a solid shell then it can also make sense etc etc
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 20:32
Because it can work out cheaper, he might want to do it/enjoy it, if it's a solid shell then it can also make sense etc etc
Spot on :afro:

My shell is pretty much sound. Sills are starting to show age but nothing a spot of welding can't sort. Suspension needs a makeover all round, and rear axle needs some attention (stub axle and bushes). But apart from that, shells is pretty much in great condition.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 21:04
Have to agree with Wayne on this, alot of effort to do really.
What's actually wrong with the 8v lump?
I would spend the money on that, but then it is your motor.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 21:07
Have to agree with Wayne on this, alot of effort to do really.
What's actually wrong with the 8v lump?
I would spend the money on that, but then it is your motor.
Cyl 3 piston rings are pretty shot.

Cyl 1
Dry   190
Wet  195

Cyl 2
Dry   180
Wet  195

Cyl 3
Dry    180
Wet   215

Cyl 4
Dry  185
Wet  185

Got blow by  :sad:

It really wouldn't survive a 3500+ mile trip in the space of 3 weeks, and the engine has been feeling lazy, unresponsive and flat lately too.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 21:15
What's wrong the those compression figures?
Looks healthy to me, any other symptoms?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 21:16
What's wrong the those compression figures?
Looks healthy to me, any other symptoms?

healthy? A 35psi loss? No way Jose!

Huge amounts of crank pressure, cos of the blow by.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 21:19
Those dry pressures are pretty much spot on mate.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 21:20
Dry yes, wet no.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 21:21
If you had a problem then the dry pressures wouldn't be that good.
Maybe try a leak down test.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 21:22
what's a leak down test??
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shrocco on 18 February 2010, 21:22
tell me what is the point of fitting a ABF to this car when you can go out and buy the same car.

x10000

plus will also be cheaper to insure
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 21:22
tell me what is the point of fitting a ABF to this car when you can go out and buy the same car.

x10000

plus will also be cheaper to insure
No, and no.

Insuring the 16v was actually about £300 more expensive. Where as If I do the conversion, only have to put £140 on top.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 21:24
what's a leak down test??

Fill each cylinder with compressed air, then see if it holds pressure.
I wouldn't perform a wet compression test, unless dry is bad or there is big difference between cylinders.
Yours looks spot on.
The point of a wet test is if the dry pressures are poor then wet will show if its valves or pistons.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shrocco on 18 February 2010, 21:25
Insuring the 16v was actually about £300 more expensive. Where as If I do the conversion, only have to put £140 on top.

f**king nonsense.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 21:25
Insuring the 16v was actually about £300 more expensive. Where as If I do the conversion, only have to put £140 on top.

f**king nonsense.
I guess we will never know how insurance works.

What would be causing dramatic amounts of blow by though??
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 21:28
Check for blocked breather.
The best way to tell if the rings/valve guides seals are f**ked is a leak down test.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 21:29
have checked oil breather. I've also cleaned them out and it's fine, but there's a hell of a lot of pressure coming out straight from the crankcase.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 18 February 2010, 21:34
I've already replied also on your thread in the mk3 section  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 18 February 2010, 23:08
tell me what is the point of fitting a ABF to this car when you can go out and buy the same car.

x10000

plus will also be cheaper to insure
No, and no.

Insuring the 16v was actually about £300 more expensive. Where as If I do the conversion, only have to put £140 on top.

Is that telling them everything, as I know you have not declared the cam change  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 18 February 2010, 23:18
khare as I said before, Adrian Flux would happily charge me £2000 for insurance on a MK3 8v but if I changed my GL to an 8v GTi, it would add £160. Madness!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Adam on 18 February 2010, 23:24
A 1.1 Saxo with a VTS/VTR engine dropped in costs less than insuring a VTS/VTR.....who knows how they work
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 18 February 2010, 23:32
tell me what is the point of fitting a ABF to this car when you can go out and buy the same car.

x10000

plus will also be cheaper to insure
No, and no.

Insuring the 16v was actually about £300 more expensive. Where as If I do the conversion, only have to put £140 on top.

Is that telling them everything, as I know you have not declared the cam change  :lipsrsealed:
yup, told them I'd be changing for a 16v in the near future.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 22 February 2010, 23:19
Had further talks with DH today and it seems like it will be taking place, probably around late April/June time.
The donor car has a fair price tag on it and I'll claw some money back by selling spare bits from it and then weighting in the shell at the scrapyard. Also by selling bits from the old 8v engine, I'll give the cylinder head a rebuilt and a good clean and sell it on for a decent amount, just like I did with the old cyl head I had from the mk2 GTI (sold it for £110 in the end).

I was going to change the cambelt, clutch, every fluid, and a few other bits and bobs but DH assured me the engine is running sweet so I'll leave the clutch out and save myself some money. I'll do the cambelt and fluids and bolt it in, that should keep me going for the rest of the year at least  :smiley:  :smiley:  :smiley:  :smiley:

More updates when I have more news  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 23 February 2010, 00:17
Still think your mad but hope it goes ok.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 February 2010, 11:27
but why am I mad? Do people not convert nowadays then?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 23 February 2010, 11:43
but why am I mad? Do people not convert nowadays then?

My honest opinion, your putting in an engine that is not much quicker or has much more if any torque than what you have fitted, so your doing a shed load of work for very little gain but you only listen to a couple of people thesedays so no matter what anyone else says your still going to do it.

100% pointless fitting a 16v engine in your car, for the money it will cost you could sell up and move on to something better / quicker.

Yes people convert and it would be a different matter if you were fitting a 1.8T.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 February 2010, 12:04
but then again it's they way the engine throws out the power. Mine has great midrange, but that's about it....Cam increased some midrange and very little bottom end, and only added 200 more revs to play with. After 5700rpm all power is just lost, and to be fair, my driving style involves midrange and top end which is were the 16v shines. The 16v keeps that torque all throughout the midrange and top end, mine starts loosing torque at 4400rpm. It might only have 12hp more but the way it uses them is so much different.
Also I know my engine is starting to go weaker and weaker, and I don't want to risk it going to Spain and breaking down in the middle of France or somewhere in Spain.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 23 February 2010, 12:19
Why not sell up and buy a TDI will have more torque then you will ever need plus will be miles cheaper on fuel for your big trip.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 23 February 2010, 12:26
You're also mad not to change the clutch while its all out the car.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 23 February 2010, 12:37
You're also mad not to change the clutch while its all out the car.

+1 much easier.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 February 2010, 13:06
H'mmmmm, guess I should keep a closer eye on this thread.

I can understand your concerns about this all being a waste of time because Andres isn't going to get another million, billion BHP.  He's pretty articulately explained why he's doing this and validated it fairly well.

The 16V motor is a much better base for a performance engine.  It breathes better, so revs much more freely and seems to use about the same/less fuel than a tweaked 8V.  It's a good, fun motor.  Lots of the French boys swap the motors in their VTRs for 16V motors, so why's this so different?

Andres current car has a sound shell and he's happy with it.  He's also done quite a lot to refresh the chassis. Why go off buying another load of someone else's problems?

The car the motor's coming out of has the right bits to make the conversion easy.  It's also been tested reasonably well and not let go.  Before anything happens we'll pull a compression test and check the basics.  I'm comfortable that it's a healthy motor. 

The whole conversion won't cost that much and I think the clutch is sound, too.  This will be checked before it goes in though.  It also gets him a cable-change gearbox set up, so why not?

Further down the line, he's got the option to put MS and bodies on it if he wants.  This should easily exceed 190bhp on an NA 2.0 16V.  It's just my opinion, but for a fun motor he'll get something pretty frisky for less than a weighty 20VT set up, which has a lot more on it to go wrong.

The whole project, once the shell from the donor is weighed in and other bits and bobs are sold should come in under £500.  You won't do a 150bhp TDI conversion for that.  You won't do a 150bhp 20VT conversion for that, either.

Horses for courses folks.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 23 February 2010, 13:15
Quote
H'mmmmm, guess I should keep a closer eye on this thread.

Why?
Wayne was just quoting an opinion like myself.
I'm sure Khare probably won't take any notice anyway, so there's probably no need for you to police his thread  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 February 2010, 13:27
To see when my name's being taken in vain, dumb-ass  :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VW BUSH on 23 February 2010, 13:37
Go for it Sunshine Bear,

Why bother putting in an ABF or an AUM or doing any mods? well because you can and it is as satisfying as your first lego crossbow.

Come to think of it if you can buy a hatch with power and handling you would not be buying a VW hatch full stop, Mk1's had terrible brakes electrics and rattled like a bean can, Mk2's had better brakes but more weight still rattled and the gearbox was a bit suspect also not that quick, Mk3's fat legged bird in a tracksuit of the range with the Mk4 being the obese cousin who still lives with his mum, Mk5 to 5.5 big fat tard of a car (VW Harvey)
You do these things because you like your car and want to personalise and it would be boring to buy the same thing out of the box as everyone else has.
Actualy maybe we should all buy a Mini Cooper S and bleet like sheep (pink Shirt optional)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 23 February 2010, 13:40
 :grin:

Khare, I've got a turbo if you want to run that too  :evil:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VW BUSH on 23 February 2010, 13:44
:grin:

Khare, I've got a turbo if you want to run that too  :evil:

Why bother when you can get a solid fuel thruster, in fact Nasa are selling Discovery save up for that.......
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 23 February 2010, 16:11
To see when my name's being taken in vain, dumb-ass  :tongue:

Ok Mr.Spelling Police  :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 February 2010, 16:22
Diamond hell pretty much said what I was going to say, thanks man! :afro:

Wayne, you say fit a 1.8T, maybe more power but look at the cost, check out LL's thread, it's cost him well over 2 grand for everything, if not more.

The donor car DH knows is the perfect car as it ahs a cable change box so it saves me time and work.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: LazyLunatic on 23 February 2010, 16:42
Do the conversion bud! its what its all about, getting stuck in and having a working car at the end that will pass an MOT - SATISFACTION!!!!!

Yeah, yeah, its pointless, i can see what they mean, but if i was in your shoes, i would fit a 2.0 16v and get to tuning that :)

oh and as for my conversion, it cost me a bomb, took ages and was hard and could of got the same speed for much less, but i got a nice base and so much potential for more power. But at the end of it all i just really wanted to have a MK3 20VT and give the conversion a go and I wanted to keep my first car.

Now get that dying 8v out over the weekend and get the 16v in and done by the next! :D :D :D
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 February 2010, 16:53
well the conversion will be done after April 19th which is when DH, danny_p and the pizza eating ballast they are taking get back from the ring trip. I've got exams around June time so the conversion will be done probably in may at some point.
We are aiming to do it in the space of a long weekend, hopefully old engine out on a Friday evening and new engine in Saturday morning, ready for preparation and tuning throughout Saturday and Sunday.

As you said LL, there is potential for more power and it is great satisfaction passing an MOT on something you've built.

Roll on conversion time  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 February 2010, 17:05
Quote
Now get that dying 8v out over the weekend and get the 16v in and done by the next!

And that's the key bit.

TBH I think I should make him wait until his exams are over.  I don't want to be the reason for EPIC education FAIL now, do I?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 February 2010, 17:37
good point DH, but if you wanted me to not epically fail education you should have adopted me 5 years ago  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I'm seriously un-academic and I've never revised, so you wouldn't be stopping me from anything don't worry  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 23 February 2010, 17:59
Quote
you should have adopted me 5 years ago

Is there something inappropriate going on between you two?  :grin: :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 February 2010, 19:49
not at all  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 February 2010, 20:08
Some people over-intellectualise things WAAAY too much.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 23 February 2010, 20:30
Diamond hell pretty much said what I was going to say, thanks man! :afro:

Wayne, you say fit a 1.8T, maybe more power but look at the cost, check out LL's thread, it's cost him well over 2 grand for everything, if not more.

The donor car DH knows is the perfect car as it ahs a cable change box so it saves me time and work.

I only said fit a 1.8t as it make more sense, but you no longer listen to anybody else so no point in posting anymore on this thread.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: shrocco on 23 February 2010, 20:53
Lots of the French boys swap the motors in their VTRs for 16V motors, so why's this so different?

it's still retarded - just buy a vts.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 23 February 2010, 21:11
I only said fit a 1.8t as it make more sense, but you no longer listen to anybody else so no point in posting anymore on this thread.

It only makes more sense if he wanted to keep on making changes to the map, turbo upgrades and had loads of money to chuck at it.

ABF makes more sense for a student on a tight budget with an ailing engine, no?

So he's not listen and doing what DH says over what you are saying, he's doing what makes sense for him.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Wayne on 23 February 2010, 21:21
I only said fit a 1.8t as it make more sense, but you no longer listen to anybody else so no point in posting anymore on this thread.

It only makes more sense if he wanted to keep on making changes to the map, turbo upgrades and had loads of money to chuck at it.

ABF makes more sense for a student on a tight budget with an ailing engine, no?

So he's not listen and doing what DH says over what you are saying, he's doing what makes sense for him.

I respect that but that is not the point I am making, many a thread has been asked in the mk3 section over the running issues or getting more power out of it, I along with many others have offered advice on what steps to make to no avail, then up pops this reference fitting an ABF because DH says it is a good move.

Maybe it is, who knows.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 23 February 2010, 21:58
Explain how it's a bad move.

Lest we forget I spent some considerable time discussing and even loaning tools for Andres to tweak up his Golf2.

What did he do then?

Go off and buy a tugboat, with a boat anchor under the bonnet, the little toad.

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 23 February 2010, 21:58
Some people over-intellectualise things WAAAY too much.

Some people are just strange  :undecided:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 23 February 2010, 22:01
Explain how it's a bad move.

Lest we forget I spent some considerable time discussing and even loaning tools for Andres to tweak up his Golf2.

What did he do then?

Go off and buy a tugboat, with a boat anchor under the bonnet, the little toad.



Wayne thinks its a bad idea, that's just his opinion.
Why ask for opinions? you are going to get advice you might not want to hear.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 February 2010, 22:05
ABF makes more sense for a student on a tight budget with an ailing engine, no?

So he's not listen and doing what DH says over what you are saying, he's doing what makes sense for him.

as you said Jay, ABF is excellent for someone on the same budget as me, and as you also said, I'm doing what makes more sense for me, not what DH is saying although what he is saying is what makes sense. It just happens to be a coincidence.

It's true that DH did spend many many hours on msn trying to convince me to stick an ABF in the golf2, but I never did and ended up buying a golf3. I now have the chance to make a good golf3 and one desirable to DH (Golf3 16v).
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Paul86S2 on 23 February 2010, 22:19
You'll have fun fitting and running the abf engine. If you can get it done for £500 then it'll be cheaper than buying and sorting out problems on a new to you 16v car.

Make sure DH and Danny dont change your Mk3 shell for a MK2 one while there at it :grin: :grin: :grin:

Paul
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 23 February 2010, 22:55
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: that won't happen so easy am afraid! fallen in love with mk3 shape! mk2 shape still something I want to own again in years to come though, in G60 form maybe  :evil:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 24 February 2010, 16:50
hectic day! Carried out compression test (just about to post figures in mk3 section) and decided to clean out all the oil in the cylinders by giving the car a drive round the block (street was covered in blue smoke  :grin:)
Ended up waiting an hour for the RAC  :angry:

The HT leads I bought the other day are so so sh!t!

Water got into them and stopped car from starting up.

Once the RAC man got it going he noticed the plug end of the HT lead which is a long metal piece, was arching on the cylinder block! Crap quality leads  :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

So stuck my old ones for now as they are an all rubber design. Maybe the arching explains why since I fitted them in the top end of the rev range I used to get slight flatspots   :undecided:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 24 February 2010, 16:57
Bad HT leads will make it run like sh!t.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 24 February 2010, 17:01
Bad HT leads will make it run like sh!t.
amen to that! learned a new thing today, never buy bad quality leads!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 24 February 2010, 17:05
I always buy o.e.
f**k performance leads, they are sh!te  :sick:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 24 February 2010, 17:06
I always buy o.e.
f**k performance leads, they are sh!te  :sick:
they weren't performance leads at all, just the cheapest I found!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 12 March 2010, 20:30
Completed my A-Level project for resistant materials.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/08032010261.jpg)

Made it from scratch. Covered in black stretchy felt and has velcro on the underside to stop it sliding away from the aluminum tabs holding it on to the parcel shelf support. Got a new earth cable as well with some nice golf plated fork terminals so quality is a bit better than what it used to be. All I need now is new mid range speakers are the ones I have are very much broken and sound rubbish.

Views please  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: VW BUSH on 12 March 2010, 20:33
Your Mental, you cant stop doing things to/for your car :grin:
Why dont you cast your own engine block :laugh:

I like :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 March 2010, 21:26
Views please

heavy tat.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: kells on 12 March 2010, 21:55
non sealed enclosure for the sub??  if so = fail

6x9's on shelf = fail too, comps up front and a sub in the rear is all thats needed

plus needs a vac :grin: :grin:

other than that its not a bad effort
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 13 March 2010, 14:19
yup no sealed. I'm not looking for a boomy sound, just a decent bassy sound all across the whole range. Sounds good now  :smiley: Might seal it some time though.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 13 March 2010, 20:51
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/13032010267.jpg)

washed, clayed, polished, waxed  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: kells on 13 March 2010, 20:57
seal the box dude, you may aswell get the best from the sub  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Jay on 13 March 2010, 21:03
Good work at getting the barnacles off there khare  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v
Post by: Khare on 13 March 2010, 21:13
seal the box dude, you may aswell get the best from the sub  :wink:
I may do dude. Gotta see.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - Donor car bought!
Post by: Khare on 26 March 2010, 15:38
Conversion is now on the horizon for sure, may/june time hopefully.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/16v.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/16v2.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/16v4.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/16v5.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/16v3.jpg)


1997 (R reg)
104,000 miles
Clutch and cam belt done 19,000 ago
S/S exhaust
VR6 BBS wheels
couple of other bits and bobs
£510  :cool:

Wheels, 288mm brakes (with new discs, pads and bearings), drivers seat, couple of other bits of trim and of course engine, gearbox and drive shafts will be going into the 8v.

Rest of the car I'll be breaking over the Easter holidays and selling off to make my money back. Old engine I'll be taking apart, cleaning, polishing, renewing and selling off in bits...everything for sale (apart from cam).

Picking it up Tuesday hopefully.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Wayne on 26 March 2010, 15:46
Your putting in a engine with 104K on it  :shocked:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 26 March 2010, 15:47
Your putting in a engine with 104K on it  :shocked:
:huh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Wayne on 26 March 2010, 15:50
Your putting in a engine with 104K on it  :shocked:
:huh:

Well seems a lot of effort for a engine with those miles.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 26 March 2010, 15:52
Your putting in a engine with 104K on it  :shocked:
:huh:

Well seems a lot of effort for a engine with those miles.

Whilst the engine is out just get it rebuilt and you should be sorted from there! :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 26 March 2010, 15:52
Your putting in a engine with 104K on it  :shocked:
:huh:

Well seems a lot of effort for a engine with those miles.

pessimism shining through again then wayne?

What about the boys in the mk2's, they're sticking ABF's in and 100k+ miles is common in these engines.
Mine is on almost 139k, so 35k older. That's what I do in about 3 years so got plenty of time to catch up  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 26 March 2010, 15:54
Whilst the engine is out just get it rebuilt and you should be sorted from there! :afro:
I might take some bits and bobs off to polish up and upgrade but until I see the car and test it out I can't say what I'm gonna do.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 26 March 2010, 16:47
104k is low mileage  :grin: that engine should be nicely worn in
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 26 March 2010, 16:48
104k is low mileage  :grin: that engine should be nicely worn in

yup, sure will be mate  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Jimp on 26 March 2010, 18:45
100k is a-ok :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Mikester on 26 March 2010, 18:58
Get on it mate!

Someone i know just stuck a 16v in his 8v on the 8v gearbox so straigh swap, change the loom. And it was a good VR6 contender <  /controversial  >
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: christomk3gti on 26 March 2010, 20:46
Khare - When you do get round to puttin the 16v in.... make sure its secure and not to your usual steps..... electricians tape haha.

Nice wheels on the 16v btw :afro:

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: JC on 26 March 2010, 20:50
so you are taking an engine out of an R reg shell to put into a n reg shell ?  :huh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Wayne on 26 March 2010, 20:53
so you are taking an engine out of an R reg shell to put into a n reg shell ?  :huh:

Yep.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: christomk3gti on 26 March 2010, 20:54
The thing is......

Weather causes most/if not all corrosion..... so depending how well the N plate is looked after/housed then its irrelivent of how old the shell is. where as the R plate could be shot....

the condition of the shell is what matters wether its older or not  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 26 March 2010, 20:55
so you are taking an engine out of an R reg shell to put into a n reg shell ?  :huh:

Yep.  :rolleyes:

Just cos its 2 years newer it doesn't mean its in better condition. The drivers door has some damage as far as I know. We shall see....

No electrical tape nowhere  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: christomk3gti on 26 March 2010, 21:05
so you are taking an engine out of an R reg shell to put into a n reg shell ?  :huh:

Yep.  :rolleyes:

Just cos its 2 years newer it doesn't mean its in better condition. The drivers door has some damage as far as I know. We shall see....

No electrical tape nowhere  :lipsrsealed:

haha. hope the project goes well.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 26 March 2010, 21:06
Cheers mate  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Jay on 26 March 2010, 21:07
No duct tape either  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:


Well DH is going to be helping doing it all so I reckon there won't be any :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 26 March 2010, 21:15
No duct tape either  :lipsrsealed:  :grin:


Well DH is going to be helping doing it all so I reckon there won't be any :afro:
Nah it's time I get my hands dirty. Thing is, when DH is at a job you don't really get the chance to do anything seeing as he is so bloody good he don't need no help.
And if Danny comes along, well I may as well put the apron on and make some cookies and tea.  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: christomk3gti on 26 March 2010, 21:20
 :grin:  :grin:

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 26 March 2010, 22:57
And if Danny comes along, well I may as well put the apron on and make some cookies and tea.  :grin:

Knew you show up for a reason.  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 26 March 2010, 22:59
And if Danny comes along, well I may as well put the apron on and make some cookies and tea.  :grin:

Knew you show up for a reason.  :grin:


 :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

I do always provide chocolate when I'm there   :smug:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 27 March 2010, 10:09
Date of conversion set.

30th April till 3rd of May, roll on next month!  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 31 March 2010, 21:06
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/31032010282.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/31032010283.jpg)

Need to get some new tires, also need to respray them, some damage to the rear wheels and the fronts ain't in the best of conditions either.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 01 April 2010, 15:57
I'm quite excited about this project  :tongue: we want mug shots too whilst this is all going on :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 01 April 2010, 20:04
Mugshots on order then!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: danny_p on 04 April 2010, 00:50
ummm  just how meany golf 3's are we going to have in the same place at the same time 4 i think may be possible  :evil:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 04 April 2010, 09:29
pack the matches then  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 April 2010, 09:34
I'll make ready the heavy duty hydraulics.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI 8v - soon to be 16v
Post by: Khare on 04 April 2010, 10:50
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 May 2010, 17:58
Well, conversion complete.

All I can say is it's more involved than I thought. Not really mechanically, but electrical. So so SO many cables and switched and plugs. Thank the lord danny was there to help!

Anyway. Headed off to the IOW on Friday where DH met me with a trailer in Yarmouth.

Danny_p drove my 8v over a few hours later and met us at DH's place. Work started Saturday morning.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010299.jpg)

engine out

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010300.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010304.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010302.jpg)

forks were used to lift the 16v away, and DH had to remind himself what cars had to stay on the ground

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010301.jpg)

Bye bye 8v!

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010303.jpg)

DH then ran over a tail light with the tractor  :cry:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010306.jpg)

Then decided to make a caddy/cabrio out of his donor

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010307.jpg)

working space

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010309.jpg)

16v subframe

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010310.jpg)

some wires

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010312.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 May 2010, 17:59
8v, you're fired!

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010315.jpg)

right after danny finishes poking his tongue out

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010316.jpg)

one nice 16v shaped hole

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010317.jpg)

8v clutch, it was very burnt and damaged

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010318.jpg)

Polished spots from clutch heat

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010319.jpg)

16v engine up in the air, where danny sorted out wiring and fitted the sump

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010323.jpg)

Then after a while we headed home, to rest for the next day.

In the morning the engine was put in and wired up over the course of the day.

Danny removing the aftermarket immobilizer

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010324.jpg)

16v loom on the left, 8v loom on the right

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010325.jpg)

16v engine with DH's blown 8v, turned out to be a broken valve!  :shocked:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010326.jpg)

Danny decided to make some art, he made a sculpture!

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010328.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010329.jpg)

When Danny saw this, he chased me round the yard and hit me. He actually hit me, not joking.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010330.jpg)

One 16v lump in!

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010331.jpg)

But it had to come out twice. Once we forgot to fit the brake servo, then we forgot to fit the clutch cylinder.
DOH!

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010333.jpg)

DH giving Danny a rest from the wiring

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010334.jpg)

We ran into immobilizer problems, so Danny went on a mission to sort it

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010335.jpg)

All getting back together

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/02052010337.jpg)

Finally sorted it and engine ran well. However...The PAS fluid GSF sold me was far too runny, much like brake fluid. Turned out to be hydraulic fluid for a citroen. So I shall be throwing the bottle at GSF and claiming some goodies. So we removed the PAS belt and ran the car with no PAS steering, got it home like so with the interior full of random bits and bobs and all taken apart, an exhaust system, rear shocks and lots of mud.

Got the car on the 00:35 ferry and made it home eventually, a day early, so total time of 48 hours on the island.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/03052010338.jpg)

Need to go back in the next few weeks to pick up the spare set of wheels from the 16v, my haynes manual, my old engine and a few other parts.

Thanks in a million Diamond Hell and danny_p for helping me, you've finally achieved something you had been trying for a while...Converting me to 16v love!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Andy-H on 03 May 2010, 18:10
Very productive weekend.

Good job :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: JC on 03 May 2010, 18:13
so apart from making the tea , taking pictures and became the king of stiff nuts of the locking kind - what did you do khare  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 May 2010, 18:18
 :grin: :grin: :grin:

They must have bonded on! I didn't do them up tightly!

I generally looked for tools, undid the odd bolt here and there, pressure washed components, provided snacks, got in the way a lot....the usual really  :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Jay on 03 May 2010, 18:47
and I thought they were going to bin yours aswell  :grin:


oh well we all live in hope  :tongue:


Well done fella's.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: boneybradley on 03 May 2010, 18:50

DH then ran over a tail light with the tractor  :cry:


I don't know why but this made me smile  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: snifferdog on 03 May 2010, 19:33
Well done boys!! Been waiting to see this! The wiring does look a pain in the arse! Think i'll just sell mine and buy another when i go 16v!! :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 May 2010, 19:48
This weekend has mostly consisted of this:

(http://skepticalteacher.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/facepalm.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: JC on 03 May 2010, 19:50
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 May 2010, 19:58
Don't be so harsh DH!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Diamond Hell on 03 May 2010, 20:07
I'm not. 
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 03 May 2010, 20:48
Excellent work.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: shrocco on 03 May 2010, 20:49
could you no have just bought a 16v?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 May 2010, 20:50
could you no have just bought a 16v?
I could have, but the insurance would have been a hell of a lot more! Works out cheaper if I converted!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 03 May 2010, 20:51
could you no have just bought a 16v?
I could have, but the insurance would have been a hell of a lot more! Works out cheaper if I converted!

Or not tell them  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: shrocco on 03 May 2010, 20:51
hopefully insurance are aware after several pages of documentation including photos online.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 May 2010, 20:52
could you no have just bought a 16v?
I could have, but the insurance would have been a hell of a lot more! Works out cheaper if I converted!

Or not tell them  :rolleyes:
Then I'd be very very fooked if I was ever stopped or in a crash  :rolleyes:

Insurance is aware not to worry  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 03 May 2010, 20:53
hopefully insurance are aware after several pages of documentation including photos online.

Yes of course thats why he never declared the cam change.  :laugh:  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: shrocco on 03 May 2010, 20:56
hope you picked up a few of these for dh

(http://picnica.ciao.com/uk/67216276.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 03 May 2010, 20:59
Bit weird you did the swap with a newer car but I is guessing you wanted to experience it so :afro:.

Stuff whether it's worth it or not, the ride along the way is the thing.

So what are we doing with this engine then? Cams?


 :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 May 2010, 21:05
hopefully insurance are aware after several pages of documentation including photos online.

Yes of course thats why he never declared the cam change.  :laugh:  :grin:
that was a one off  :tongue:

DH kept my cam, that as the deal for the conversion. DH is tea total anyway....Literally, between him and danny they must have drank about 60 or 70 cups over the weekend!  :shocked:

The experience was good. I now know more or less how to do an engine swap if I was to do it again, obviously I'd lack in experience and some knowledge though.

Plans for this is keep it reliable and running sweet until after the summer, then over the winter do some manifold work and porting. Cams and ITB's for 2011 maybe  :smiley:

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: JC on 03 May 2010, 21:12
after this weekend I think DH might take up drinking  :grin: :laugh: :evil:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 May 2010, 21:13
hahahahaha  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: danny_p on 04 May 2010, 00:59
DH is tea total anyway....Literally, between him and danny they must have drank about 60 or 70 cups over the weekend!  :shocked:


we like tea,  tho unlike DH i also like beer
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 04 May 2010, 10:22
good job schrocco put up a pic of KALIBER   :wink: :grin:

so you been out for a hoon yet?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 04 May 2010, 11:46
Great work to the two that did it :afro: and well done to Khare for not claiming all the glorey!!

I am however disapointed in you Khare! i was promised mug shots and this promise was not delivered!!  :angry:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Jay on 04 May 2010, 11:48
Here's your mug shot:









































(http://www.golfgti.co.uk/images/teaandkey1.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 04 May 2010, 11:50
Not been out for a proper hoon yet as the PAS wasn't plugged in, but it sure does like to rev in straight line! PAS is now all sorted so will be testing it out today, I'll report back!

Wherry, I am sorry for not getting mug shots. I did get that one of danny but when I asked DH for a mugshot I think he mumbled and fcuked off elsewhere  :grin:
I did have some stick on moustaches but we were on a tight schedule to get it finished in time for the ferry, so we didn't have the time.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 May 2010, 13:27
I did have some stick on moustaches but we were on a tight schedule to get it finished in time for the ferry, so we didn't have the time.

It's almost like people can spot when they're getting a bit close to being treated like c*nts, isn't it?

Tread carefully, nipper.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 04 May 2010, 14:43
Well done man, I'm sure you're loving the 16v over the 8v now. And well done to DH and danny as well. :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: JC on 04 May 2010, 15:17
Well done man, I'm sure you're loving the 16v over the 8v now. And well done to DH and danny as well. :afro:

as well as who ?  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 04 May 2010, 17:07
:afro:

Nicely done. ;)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: MaCco on 05 May 2010, 01:04




(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/conversion/01052010309.jpg)



Nice van, i mean good work mate
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 05 May 2010, 08:09
i hope those aren't car wheels on the van  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Diamond Hell on 05 May 2010, 11:09
No they're not car wheels, but did you see what's behind them?

Far more interesting.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dTEA on 08 May 2010, 06:57
Khare that wad my kind of conversion...glorified tea lady :tongue:
nice one DH n Danny.

how was the drive with the 16v then?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: danny_p on 08 May 2010, 12:53
judgeing by the first drive that 16v is going to get bored,   2.4D ford ranger had to keep backing off for him to catch up.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: JC on 08 May 2010, 13:16
judgeing by the first drive that 16v is going to get bored,   2.4D ford ranger had to keep backing off for him to catch up.


 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

an we await the excuses  :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dTEA on 08 May 2010, 17:44
^he was breaking the engine in? He was getting used to the power hike? He feared DH would tell him he was driving it all wrong? So many others I'll let Khare justify himself :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dom on 08 May 2010, 19:06
My money is on lack of power steering  :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dTEA on 09 May 2010, 09:37
^nah p/s is for poofs!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 09 May 2010, 15:07
My money is on lack of power steering  :laugh:
that and the fact that the IOW roads are extremely bumpy...I'm surprised the sump and the exhaust are still in place, honestly  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: It did give me 3 huge scrapes on the sump  :sad:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dom on 09 May 2010, 15:40
My money is on lack of power steering  :laugh:
that and the fact that the IOW roads are extremely bumpy...I'm surprised the sump and the exhaust are still in place, honestly  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: It did give me 3 huge scrapes on the sump  :sad:

 :smug: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dTEA on 09 May 2010, 21:24
That's a softies response!!! :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Jay on 09 May 2010, 21:32
Dunno how he'd fair on a rally  :grin:

ohhhh it's tooooo bumpy  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 09 May 2010, 21:38
Dunno how he'd fair on a rally  :grin:

ohhhh it's tooooo bumpy  :grin:
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: I'd only complain if the car is slammed!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Diamond Hell on 09 May 2010, 22:52
You asked to have the stupidly low springs put on and you wanted to keep the knackered 45 profile tyres on because they were on the ghey BBS rims, rather than putting your good 50 section matched set of Toyos back on.

Stoopid is as stoopid does.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Matty-MK3 on 09 May 2010, 22:54
^Can I just say I prefered the old rims?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 09 May 2010, 23:08
^Can I just say I prefered the old rims?

+1  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dTEA on 09 May 2010, 23:27
Forget liked the old rims, I'm liking the heckles! Lol
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 May 2010, 08:48
You asked to have the stupidly low springs put on and you wanted to keep the knackered 45 profile tyres on because they were on the ghey BBS rims, rather than putting your good 50 section matched set of Toyos back on.

Stoopid is as stoopid does.  :rolleyes:

Yeah and I do kinda regret it, but...I'll be selling the springs and shocks shortly and raising the car some more. The tyres I need to pop over in the next few weeks and collect them as I need to stick them on to refurbish the BBS' and I need to collect the haynes and a few other bits as well.
I need to sort out the paperwork with the scrapyard too to say that the car has been scrapped and send it off to the DVLA.

Oh and I'm going back to 50 profile, I'll be using the two rears on the other alloys and then getting two new ones to complete a set  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 May 2010, 11:10

I need to sort out the paperwork with the scrapyard too to say that the car has been scrapped and send it off to the DVLA.

That's all done already.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: JC on 10 May 2010, 12:50

I need to sort out the paperwork with the scrapyard too to say that the car has been scrapped and send it off to the DVLA.

That's all done already.

 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 May 2010, 16:04
So what do I need to send the DVLA reporting it's been scrapped? Need to send them proof from a scrapyard don't I?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 May 2010, 16:57
Nothing I have the certificate of destruction in my glovebox.

You can collect it when you get the other items you've left lying about in the barn.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 May 2010, 17:08
Nothing I have the certificate of destruction in my glovebox.

You can collect it when you get the other items you've left lying about in the barn.
OK, well I'll let you know when I'm popping over to collect the stuff.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 21 May 2010, 19:38
New coilovers as the car was far too low.
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/CIMG0348.jpg)

Damage caused by road due to loweredness  :cry:
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/09052010348.jpg)

Dirty coolant bottle
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/19052010356.jpg)

Clean coolant bottle!
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/19052010357.jpg)

Rad off to remove rad thermo switch. It had to come out as it is a VR6 rad which has different locations for the outlets and switch, so the cowling had to be chopped away to fit it, but the switch was in a bad spot to get a spanner round it so the whole thing had to come out!
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/20052010358.jpg)

Waiting for a few parts to arrive so I can fabricate the return feed for the coolant bottle, and on Tuesday I'll be picking up a new coolant temp sensor.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 06 June 2010, 20:26
Old exhaust out

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/05062010380.jpg)

new one in!

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/05062010382.jpg)

Much better now. Very quiet at normal speeds and when going gently on the gas but you get a nice sounds when giving it some  :smiley:

Old cat  :shocked:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/05062010381.jpg)

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Horney on 06 June 2010, 20:38
You can collect it when you get the other items you've left lying about in the barn.

eBay!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Guy on 07 June 2010, 08:41
You can collect it when you get the other items you've left lying about in the barn.

eBay!

 :grin: :grin:

scrappy!!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: JC on 07 June 2010, 09:06
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 23 July 2010, 20:01
Some updates.

New engine speed sensor fitted. To make it an easy job I pretty much dismantled the front of the car and took the front engine mount bracket off so there was no messing about with weird angles or anything.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/23072010420.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/23072010419.jpg)

Then I debadged the rear

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/23072010421.jpg)

My friend Steve who recently passed away was always telling me to debadge it, so in his honour I have done, and I'm happy I have. Looks much much better.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 18 September 2010, 01:23
Haven't updated in a while but not much has gone on. Window regulator had broken on the way back from Spain (thankfully in mild UK rather than in hot France/Spain). So changed that after waiting for about 3 bloody weeks for the parcel to turn up! Royal mail REALLY took the pi$$ there. Anyway now working all fine  :smiley: While I was at it I decided to check the usual bits and bobs, fluids, tyre pressures and any major visible bits, so adjusted the pressures for the first time since Spain  :shocked: All uneven, and front right was 14psi so that needs refitting I think, as it has a slow leak.

As I've mentioned in the Mk3 section I've got an oil leak which I've found to be an O-ring on the oil cooler, so need to pick a new one up from VW in the coming days along with some oil and a new filter to sort it out.

MOT in November, but as I'll be away then I plan on doing it before I leave (halloween) so I'm starting to get the car ready for MOT now. New powerflex rear beam bushes should be here either tomorrow or Monday, so I'll get cracking with them. After that it's the brakes that need a major makeover. ABS system at the front needs rewiring, and a new sensor I have in the shed put in place. I've got 288mm brakes from the 16v donor sitting pretty that need putting on, but I need to buy new brake hoses for them as they are of different fitment, so I'll be buying some braided hoses as a nice upgrade (brake system I do NOT like to do, especially the nut attaching the flexi hose to the solid hose, it's rusted and I REALLY don't want to round it off, so need to get a decent brake hose spanner and plenty of penetrating oil on it beforehand).

Need to fit a new sunroof at some point, as one of the rails on my one has broken so it's been unusable for month now, I miss it  :sad: Need to sort out the exhaust banging on the rear axle, I'll do that when doing the polybushes.
To top it all off I shall be applying a load of waxoil underneath to get it ready for the winter, along with new spark plugs.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 18 September 2010, 18:19
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC02983.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC02982.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC02981.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC02980.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC02979.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: JC on 18 September 2010, 19:30
 :grin: :laugh: gotta love driveway spannering :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 19 September 2010, 12:27
:grin: :laugh: gotta love driveway spannering :afro:
Some of us have no choice eh... its good till it rains!... hope the weathers good to you while you're doing all this Khare.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 September 2010, 12:57
Ta mate, should stay sunny. Managed to get the bush casings off, so I've given it a lick of paint and I'll be refitting it tomorrow  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 19 September 2010, 14:58
Cracking work
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 September 2010, 15:09
Thanks Wayne.

Got a picture of the rear beam, so you can have a quick glimpse.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/IMAG0021.jpg)
 :cool:


Need to desperately clean my garden  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 21 September 2010, 16:34
All fitted and working. What a pain in the ar$e refitting the beam, glad I had a friend holding the beam otherwise I really don't know how I would have coped.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0023.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0024.jpg)

Refitting brakes

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0025.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0026.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0027.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0028.jpg)

Next on the list is a big clean, sorting out the brake system and fixing niggles.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Len on 21 September 2010, 16:39
Why is it yellow?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 21 September 2010, 16:44
because I painted it yellow  :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 21 September 2010, 20:22
because I painted it yellow  :tongue:

Why  :huh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 21 September 2010, 21:00
Different. I like it. How boring would black be?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 28 September 2010, 19:45
The bushes seem to be pretty decent, rear end feels firmer for sure, but car is still not perfect (handling terms). I'm putting this down to the hottuning coilovers however. If I do decide to keep this car on the long term I'm investing in some KW or FK coilovers.

Still need to do brakes, need to buy some braided hoses and brake fluid and get on with the job. Some of the unions though look pretty rusty so I am actually quite worried that they will get rounded/break or so on.

Yellow beam added at least 3hp, I can feel it.

Need to sort rear brakes out. People don't know how bad the handbrake is, I mean, it won't do a handbrake turn. I need to either get some new calipers, or recondition the current ones followed by some decent brake pads and new discs (and new wheel bearings while working on the rear, might as well).

That's it for now.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 30 September 2010, 19:24
MOT is due soon, so starting to get it ready, although not much to do. Sills were the bit that worried me the most so this evening I crawled under the car and see what's what. Gave them a wire brushing and this was the result.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0030.jpg)

A small hole, and a tiny hole. The small hole looks pretty big in that pic, but it's about 4 or 5mm wide. I'm not sure whether that's a fail or an advisory, but to be on the safe side I gave it a thick coat of waxoil.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0031.jpg)

Other side was fine, no holes, just jacking point mashed up, matching the other side. Gave that a cover with waxoil too however.

Also painted rear brake calipers to match the fronts. Been meaning to do this for SOOOOOOOOOO long, but never got round to it.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0032.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 October 2010, 18:34
(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0042.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0043.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0045.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0044.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0046.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMAG0050.jpg)
 :smiley: :smiley:


Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 10 October 2010, 19:05
Reading this thread, congratulations.

Nice to see you actually doing the 16v even after wanting a 16v-killer 8v  :tongue:

But yeah, probably learned quite a bit. :afro:

Deffo prefer it on the GTi wheels instead of the VR6's though.  :cool:

Oh and it's looking well tidy on the outside. :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 10 October 2010, 19:31
It is a small hole but will / should fail the mot.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 10 October 2010, 19:49
The exhaust isn't chavtastic. That is all.  :kiss:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 October 2010, 19:52
The exhaust isn't chavtastic. That is all.  :kiss:
:tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 10 October 2010, 20:37
Woh, the seam on your sills looks like its had a lot of bad jacking??? loads of bends?.. shame cos the car looks mint...  If you've waxoyled over the rust its gonna be fun for whoever is going to fix it.  bare in mind that the rust will keep spreading underneath.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 October 2010, 20:44
Woh, the seam on your sills looks like its had a lot of bad jacking??? loads of bends?.. shame cos the car looks mint...  If you've waxoyled over the rust its gonna be fun for whoever is going to fix it.  bare in mind that the rust will keep spreading underneath.

Yeah whoever jacked it up from there must have been a fool. I know the rust will keep on spreading, it's something I will sort properly if I decide to keep the car, or it's something I'll keep in mind when setting the price for sale.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 January 2011, 11:57
Behold, the clean engine!


(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110119_112007.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110119_112023.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 19 January 2011, 12:12
Very tidy, but where are the before pics...

Oh and go paint your inlet manifold now.  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 19 January 2011, 12:14
Looking good khare
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 January 2011, 12:15
Didn't take before, was too exited of cleaning it  :sad: :sad:

The cam cover was very oily though, and the gearbox had a thick layer of crap on it.

This is before the engine was stuck on though.


(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/16v3.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 19 January 2011, 12:17
You should paint the writing in on the inlet manifold, black or blue would look ace.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 January 2011, 12:23
You should paint the writing in on the inlet manifold, black or blue would look ace.

Yeah I've been planning on doing it since I got the donor car, just something that keeps being pushed back though  :grin:

I'm gonna do it red  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: robz on 19 January 2011, 13:45
Looking good mate!!!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 19 January 2011, 15:54
You call that cleam, pfft!!

Good stuff man, i wonder if this is being cleaned because it will be seen by other forum members!  :grin:

I think the inlet should go black with red writing  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 January 2011, 18:48
You call that cleam, pfft!!

Good stuff man, i wonder if this is being cleaned because it will be seen by other forum members!  :grin:

I think the inlet should go black with red writing  :cool:

It REALLY needed the clean  :grin:


I was thinking maybe a metallic blue with red writing. Black is just too common.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: robz on 19 January 2011, 20:09
colour coded to your car..?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 20 January 2011, 09:37
Colour code for the win!  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 20 January 2011, 09:52
I was thinling of a lighter blue, like the blue of the f1 Renault in 2005. Either that, or anodized blue color.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 20 January 2011, 10:00
Why not have the inlet manifold polished  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 20 January 2011, 10:22
Why not have the inlet manifold polished  :cool:

That's a lot of effort and work!  :grin: :grin:

I was thinling of a lighter blue, like the blue of the f1 Renault in 2005. Either that, or anodized blue color.

Go for it, before JKM so it looks good in the flesh!  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 20 January 2011, 10:41
Why not have the inlet manifold polished  :cool:

Loooooooooads of effort as Wherry has already pointed out. I tried to polish the cam cover on the 8v and no way I'm trying it again!  :laugh:

Won't be done before JKM wherry, infact it probably won't be done until summer time  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 20 January 2011, 10:43
Why not have the inlet manifold polished  :cool:

Loooooooooads of effort as Wherry has already pointed out. I tried to polish the cam cover on the 8v and no way I'm trying it again!  :laugh:

Won't be done before JKM wherry, infact it probably won't be done until summer time  :grin:

Lazyness, that's terrible! i'm polishing my turd up to give it a proper shine!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 20 January 2011, 10:46
Jetwash at petrol station for me, no time for fanning about  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 February 2011, 16:19
Well yesterday I got in the car, only to find it wouldn't start (moisture inside distributor cap again), so I got it going with lots of WD40 again and limped to GSF where I got a new cap and rotor. Fitted that, and it improved by a lot, but it still had a slight misfire on the way back on the top end (fitted it at the GSF car park  :grin:). Got home, removed old plugs and  :shocked: No pics but they were absolutely gone! The electrodes were almost worn completely out. Fitted some nice new NGK plugs and now runs sweet as a nut! No problems whatsoever on my way to Gatwick airport.


So one issue sorted, the next mod was on the list, the 16v brakes.


Gave them a quick wire brushing the other day, but I wasn't very happy so I got the drill wire attachment today and gave it some of that. Got them nice and shiny again and rust free  :smiley:

Also gave them the traditional Khare motorsport paint colour scheme  :grin:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/16vcalipers.jpg)

Mintex M1144 pads arrived today too, and I already had the goodridge braided brake lines  :smiley:

(Ignore GT5  :grin:)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/167424_487348701720_630751720_6172534_1579026_n.jpg)

Disc wise, I'd like to get something fancy with holes and grooves but I've run out of money for a while. I've got the standard 288 discs in the shed which I may stick on while I save up for better ones.



 :smiley:

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Dan34 on 03 February 2011, 16:29
Looking good.

But dont get disc's with holes, there pointless. 6 groove discs ftw!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 03 February 2011, 16:31
Also gave them the traditional Khare motorsport paint colour scheme  :grin:

Bright Yellow then! :cool:  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 February 2011, 16:32
Indeed  :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 03 February 2011, 19:31
Good little bit of progress.... when the hell did you last check you plugs then!?  :shocked:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 February 2011, 19:33
Good little bit of progress.... when the hell did you last check you plugs then!?  :shocked:

Hadn't checked them on the 16v  :laugh:

So minimum 1 year old plugs, they looked more like 10 year old though  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 February 2011, 19:43
I've just spend 5 minutes trawling though the food bin to find the plugs  :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:


Sorry for the bits of food you may find  :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:



(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110203_195134.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 February 2011, 21:16
Up to date to do list




•   Rear number plate light
•   Locking wheels nuts
•   Adjust drivers door
•   Clean throttle body
•   Drill air box
•   Full wet-vac clean inside

•   Full outside clean, wax and polish
•   Replace bumper air vents with cold air intakes
•   Fix outside air temperature sensor on MFA
•   Replace:  Spark plugs
                 Oil and oil filter
                 Distributor cap and rotor
                 Air filter
                 HT leads

•   Fix sunroof
•   Fit new speakers
•   Red GTI front badge
•   VR6 front splitter

•   Wire hazard lights to alarm
•   Buy and fit hella quads
•   Align hella lamps

•   Spray VW badge black
•   Fix windscreen washer bottle
•   Fit poly bushes, new ball joints and new top mounts
•   4 wheel alignment
•   Fix water leak from the front head flange
•   Install new steering rack
•   New gearbox mount
•   Gearbox oil service
•   Polybush rear beam
•   Fix oil cooler leak (O-ring)

•   Replace both door mirror covers
•   Replaced heated glass on driver's side door mirror
•   Replaced blown rear left 6x9
•   Waxoil underneath
•   Upgrade brakes to 288mm
•   Paint brake calipers
•   Touch up scratches
•   De-cat
•   Coilovers

•   Gearbox alignment
•   Fix slow puncture in OS front tyre
•   Full interior strip
•   Wash carpets
•   Disinfect
•   Fit new soundproofing
•   Fix all creeks
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 03 February 2011, 23:19
Not much left to fix then :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 February 2011, 23:36
Nope  :smiley:


Roll on hot weather  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 03 February 2011, 23:38
Nope  :smiley:


Roll on hot weather  :cool:

And lighter evenings. :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 February 2011, 23:39
Yup, especially lighter evenings  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: F17BAD on 04 February 2011, 08:47
lighter evening are a must!!!! 

whats next, turbo conversion on the ABF  :laugh: :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Len on 04 February 2011, 08:57
Have some Sony 6x9's if you want em!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 04 February 2011, 10:45
I'm gagging for daylight after work!..... I'm surprised you didnt check things like plugs when you changed the engine!...
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 04 February 2011, 12:22
lighter evening are a must!!!! 

whats next, turbo conversion on the ABF  :laugh: :cool:

Nah, I want to sell up and want to buy somethign with a turbo, and made in Japan  :tongue:


Have some Sony 6x9's if you want em!

If you still have them in a while I'll get them off you, ran out of money for a while  :sad: Will let you know :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 04 February 2011, 12:24
I'm gagging for daylight after work!..... I'm surprised you didnt check things like plugs when you changed the engine!...

I know mate, I really should have. However while the car was at mine waiting to have the engine taken out of I didn't have the correct spark plug socket, and then during the conversion it was quite busy sorting out other stuff. Then after that, car ran great so I didn't think about them  :sad:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Len on 04 February 2011, 12:27
Will bring speakers with me tomorrow.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 04 February 2011, 12:31
Don't bother as I won't be having money for the next couple of months  :grin:

+ 1 need to prioritize stuff, sunroof for summer and I also need new HT leads at some point.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Len on 04 February 2011, 12:52
OK just thought you could look at them and see if you liked them!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 04 February 2011, 12:53
That's cool then :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 February 2011, 16:48
Eventful day today.

So RR day at JKM today, nice to meet new people, met some people and finally saw LL's car in the flesh  :cool:
Hats off to Wherry for coming all the way from Jersey (in the isle of man according to me  :grin:). Nice to meet you too dude, after so long! :afro:

Not cool seeing Wazzer's car with an actuator problem and having to abort his runs, although JKM proved to have excellent customer service and returned his money  :smiley:
Also Robin, his car developed a misfire in the midrange so his runs didn't go perfectly. It proves that a RR is not good just for measuring power, but engine health too as neither of the above guys knew about their problems.

So anyway, got there about 8:45am and it all kicked off at about 9:20am.

Quite a few people didn't turn up, in fact about half of the list. However the weather wasn't great and a lot of people did drop out with mechanical/other problems, so it was expected.

Javalin was the first to run the car, he was very happy with his 118hp output from the standard engine.

I was next and had warmed the car up nice doing a few fast runs down the road, and opening the bonnet to let all the heat out prior to the dyno.

I was very happy with the output, with 150hp I would have been over the moon, as all its got is panel filter, smoothed and drilled airbox, decat and full exhaust system.

However it pulled a healthy 155.3HP and 135 ft-lb along a very smooth and very nice line, holding the power at the top of the rev range very well all the way to the limiter.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/abfdyno.jpg)

I think a nice change of spark plug leads (new dizzie cap, rotor and plugs, only a few days old) and a coil pack (I'll get onto that in a second) would have smoothed out the torque line and maybe given a bit more power.

Here is a video of the runs, notice the flames on the 2nd run  :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0PXYr7EZw0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0PXYr7EZw0)

I'll upload some other videos and photos I have later on in the evening.  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: robz on 05 February 2011, 19:51
Sounds sweet mate!!
Well done!!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 05 February 2011, 20:10
Great result
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dom on 05 February 2011, 20:16
Great result

+1 i'd be pretty happy with that!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 February 2011, 20:20
I think plans for it are a PROPER induction kit sealed away from the engine bay and with cold air feeds going to it, a remap and maybe, with time cams  :lipsrsealed:


But I do want a turbo jap machine, so I may save up all my money for that  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: robz on 05 February 2011, 20:31
No jap crap!!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 February 2011, 20:35
But it's sooo tempting!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: robz on 05 February 2011, 20:37
No!!
Ya need to turbo that 16v!!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 February 2011, 21:02
I won't lie.



I've thought about it, run a low boost turbo so I can keep stock internals. If I could crack 200hp I'd be happy.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: robz on 05 February 2011, 21:05
Would be a seriously cool car then!!
Better than being a kevin in a jap car!!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: LazyLunatic on 05 February 2011, 21:57
I won't lie.



I've thought about it, run a low boost turbo so I can keep stock internals. If I could crack 200hp I'd be happy.

:cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 February 2011, 21:59
Better clear your inbox in that case Alex  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: LazyLunatic on 05 February 2011, 22:08
Better clear your inbox in that case Alex  :grin: :grin: :grin:

:D I like.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 05 February 2011, 22:49
Where you people go wrong is that you feel the need to go Jap because it's easy.  :rolleyes:

Even though I totally want a Skyline in my life.

Good result though! Turbo it, you know you want to.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 February 2011, 22:50
Not because it's easy, but because it's RWD, turbo, more cylinders and lots of power!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 05 February 2011, 23:27
Not because it's easy, but because it's RWD, turbo, more cylinders and lots of power!

Yeah I know, but I can't afford one for a long time so I need to defame these things to feel better.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 February 2011, 23:31
Yeah, but by the time I stick a turbo on it, whether it's low boost or not I could sell the car as it is and put the turbo fund together and buy the jap car  :grin:

We'll see, I need to sort some stuff on it first (Engine loom will be getting a complete make over sometime this year hopefully).
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 06 February 2011, 18:06
AFR graph

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/AFRABF.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 08 February 2011, 15:45
Thanks Chris for the fog light CAI mod :afro:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110208_144606.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110208_153142.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110208_153158.jpg)

Used hot glue to stick the pipe to the fog lamp surround. Now it's going in through a hole on the airbox

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110119_112007.jpg)

You can just about see the hole there, near the alternator pulley.

Not tested it yet, but it should hold on alright, I've got a few cable ties holding it steady just in case it lets go and decides to meet up with the alternator pulley  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 08 February 2011, 16:41
Nice little modification there, should have really done that before Saturday though!  :evil:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 08 February 2011, 16:46
Nice little modification there, should have really done that before Saturday though!  :evil:

I know  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Len on 08 February 2011, 16:46
His figures were good enough! :evil:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 08 February 2011, 16:59
His figures were good enough! :evil:
:tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: jamrock on 08 February 2011, 17:25
that looks  :cool: nice Subtle  mod
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 08 February 2011, 17:59
Nice run... both you and wherry did good!  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 08 February 2011, 18:05
Cheers mate!

Yeah wherry's run was very good. I was very pleased with mine. Looking at other ABF graphs around the net I'm very happy with how it holds out the power from 6400rpm all the way to the limiter  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 08 February 2011, 18:14
Cheers mate!

Yeah wherry's run was very good. I was very pleased with mine. Looking at other ABF graphs around the net I'm very happy with how it holds out the power from 6400rpm all the way to the limiter  :smiley:

Considering each pot is nearly a litre less than a VR and you only have 4 pots it's very good... it's great to see original power or more in older cars still pumping out... Wherrys and mmmmmaaaaaattttyygggg's VRs seem to be going very well too.

I'm scared of doing mine when the time comes.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 08 February 2011, 18:31
Don't be a Shady!

Dyno is a great tool to check the health, not just power.

Robin found out he had a misfire.

Wazzzer found out he had actuator problems.

Lazylunatic found out he had problems too.

Looking at my AFR ratio I'm confident with the new coil it's now got it's making more power, as it was running pretty rich, about 13:1 average.
I think in the coming months, apart from putting a full new engine loom in I'll be looking at possibly a remap, exhaust manifold and MAYBE cams.

I may stick an induction kit on it too, but with proper heat shielding and good cold air intakes. I may have to chop up some of the slam panel for that.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 08 February 2011, 18:41
Don't be a Shady!

Dyno is a great tool to check the health, not just power.

Robin found out he had a misfire.

Wazzzer found out he had actuator problems.

Lazylunatic found out he had problems too.

Looking at my AFR ratio I'm confident with the new coil it's now got it's making more power, as it was running pretty rich, about 13:1 average.
I think in the coming months, apart from putting a full new engine loom in I'll be looking at possibly a remap, exhaust manifold and MAYBE cams.

I may stick an induction kit on it too, but with proper heat shielding and good cold air intakes. I may have to chop up some of the slam panel for that.

I know this...  I don't need a dyno to tell me i've got issues.. the cars not been on the road for nearly 7 years!  and 6 of those years the engine was on a shelf :grin:

Got all the gear to tune it properly(ish) so one of my tasks is to do just that.  Gas tester, strobe etc....  we'll see, the truth is I will be mega curious after I've tweaked it... Her big head is sounding a little tired at the moment so I know it won't be what it was...  fingers crossed its not £££££££ required to get her back to her zippy glory!  :cool:

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 08 February 2011, 19:01
Good luck mate! I'll be checking your project thread to keep track of it  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 08 February 2011, 19:11
Good luck mate! I'll be checking your project thread to keep track of it  :smiley: :smiley:

Cheers bud.. This weekend (depending on weather) it should be finshed and ready for MOT..  :lipsrsealed:  Project thread is in line with dub rides now and both linked in my sig.  Mostly did that to make use of Bens download function, plus when a mate or someone new wants to have a look, dubrides is a bit much to flick through from the start!  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 11 February 2011, 15:10
Don't be a Shady!

Piss off. I didn't even take my car.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 12 February 2011, 18:33
Put the goodridge braided hoses, 16v calipers and discs, and the mintex m1144 pads on today  :cool:

No photos during the swap as I was so excited! Sorry!


(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110212_175911.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110212_175850.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110212_175751.jpg)

 :smiley:

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Adam on 12 February 2011, 18:51
And the review on the upgrade?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 12 February 2011, 19:15
And the review on the upgrade?
I'll post back in a few days, need to let the pads bed in and the discs clean up. Brakes do feel firmer now, but that may be psychological at the moment as I've not done more than a test run, I'll take it for a nice spin in the next few days and see how the new lines go  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 13 February 2011, 14:38
Here's a better picture of the setup

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/176373_10150098116461721_630751720_6535223_518754_o.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: F17BAD on 13 February 2011, 14:41
gonna wack some GR lines on mine too once the car is off the road, have them on my Swift GTI - they are great
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 13 February 2011, 14:42
gonna wack some GR lines on mine too once the car is off the road, have them on my Swift GTI - they are great
I've not had the chance to test them properly yet, I've only driven a few miles to make sure brakes are working fine and pedal has a good feel. Will test them out over the week and see how it goes.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 February 2011, 15:02
Something i'll get round to at some point too.  Looks good, calipers look like they only just fit inside the rim.  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 13 February 2011, 15:04
Yeah  :grin: They must be about 2-3mm from touching it!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 February 2011, 15:06
Yeah  :grin: They must be about 2-3mm from touching it!
:grin:  Was there ever a point when you thought sh*t, they're not going to fit!?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 13 February 2011, 15:09
Nope, because they come standard in post 95 GTI's and the VR6  :smiley:

The wire thing was touching the inside of the alloy yesterday, so today I gave it a push back. No touching for now so we'll see how it goes  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 February 2011, 15:13
Nope, because they come standard in post 95 GTI's and the VR6  :smiley:

The wire thing was touching the inside of the alloy yesterday, so today I gave it a push back. No touching for now so we'll see how it goes  :smiley:

Yeah I knew the VR had them but the wheels are different.... hmmm, watch it, don't want to be scoring the cr@p out of the wheels now.  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 13 February 2011, 15:17
Tattooing the inside of the wheels  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 February 2011, 15:22
Tattooing the inside of the wheels  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Ha, that's one way of looking at it.  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 13 February 2011, 16:35
Just went out for a quick test down the New Forest and although the pads are still not making full contact with the discs (discs are still oxidised on the inside) braking has more feel to it and is more progressive. So far so good  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 13 February 2011, 16:42
Just went out for a quick test down the New Forest and although the pads are still not making full contact with the discs (discs are still oxidised on the inside) braking has more feel to it and is more progressive. So far so good  :smiley:

That's one thing I hate about new brakes, having to drive light and bed them in... When I was younger I was inpatient once, never again.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2011, 18:09
Found this today

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110219_153454.jpg)

Seems to be rubbing on the coilovers.

However, I had a look with the wheel mounted and on full lock both ways, and it's got plenty of clearance....Strange....

I think I need some spacers though  :undecided:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 19 February 2011, 19:35
The tyre is moving under load  :smiley: hence not catching all the time.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Adam on 19 February 2011, 19:40
5mm spacers should be adequate.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2011, 20:15
The tyre is moving under load  :smiley: hence not catching all the time.

Explainable then.


5mm spacers should be adequate.

Yup, will keep standard bolts by using them too won't I?

Should I be looking at hubcentric ones right?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Adam on 19 February 2011, 20:30
I ran 5mm flat spacers (non hubcentric) with standard bolts on the MK4 with no problems at all.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2011, 20:31
I ran 5mm flat spacers (non hubcentric) with standard bolts on the MK4 with no problems at all.

Cool stuff. Will get hunting  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 19 February 2011, 20:31
Are you running 195/50/15's if so very strange as mine were nowhere close.

Might be worth checking your camber.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2011, 20:35
Are you running 195/50/15's if so very strange as mine were nowhere close.

Might be worth checking your camber.

The problems started just after I stick the 16v brakes on  :undecided:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 19 February 2011, 20:37
Long shot, but is the wheel bearing ok, I would check that as a urgent 1st step.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2011, 20:39
Long shot, but is the wheel bearing ok, I would check that as a urgent 1st step.

Wheel bearing is fine, I had a look in there today. The only thing I can think of, is the 16v disc allows the wheel to be closer to the strut, but then again plenty of 16v's running 195 tyres.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 19 February 2011, 20:41
Long shot, but is the wheel bearing ok, I would check that as a urgent 1st step.

Wheel bearing is fine, I had a look in there today. The only thing I can think of, is the 16v disc allows the wheel to be closer to the strut, but then again plenty of 16v's running 195 tyres.

288mm brakes?, if so they are the same on a 8v so should not matter.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2011, 20:45
Long shot, but is the wheel bearing ok, I would check that as a urgent 1st step.

Wheel bearing is fine, I had a look in there today. The only thing I can think of, is the 16v disc allows the wheel to be closer to the strut, but then again plenty of 16v's running 195 tyres.

288mm brakes?, if so they are the same on a 8v so should not matter.

Yup, hence why I'm confused as to why it's touching.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2011, 23:11
Just bought some 6mm spacers.

2 for the front, 2 for the back too  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 19 February 2011, 23:21
Long shot, but is the wheel bearing ok, I would check that as a urgent 1st step.

Wheel bearing is fine, I had a look in there today. The only thing I can think of, is the 16v disc allows the wheel to be closer to the strut, but then again plenty of 16v's running 195 tyres.

288mm brakes?, if so they are the same on a 8v so should not matter.

Yup, hence why I'm confused as to why it's touching.

That is very odd then  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Dec on 20 February 2011, 03:09
Didn't have any problems with mine, but I had 195/45's :undecided:

Spacers should sort it, and look good too! :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Beenie on 28 February 2011, 19:26
whats your insurance like with the engine conversion?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 28 February 2011, 19:37
Didn't have any problems with mine, but I had 195/45's :undecided:

Spacers should sort it, and look good too! :afro:

They didn't  :undecided:

Still rubs, not as much though. I checked camber and I have -0.34 on the side it's not touching and -1.38 on the side that is. So camber isn't the issue. Next step is to check wishbone, although the car doesn't pull to either side  :huh:

whats your insurance like with the engine conversion?

£160 extra on top of the premium quoted.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Beenie on 28 February 2011, 19:41
 :shocked: whos that with?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 28 February 2011, 19:57
Brentacre
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 March 2011, 20:28
Got some pics yesterday at the new forest  :smiley:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04144.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04145.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04148.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04151.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04153.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/DSC04157.jpg)

Thinking about it last night, there are a few things I'm not entirely happy about with the car.

1. I'd like to fill the arches, but keep the ride height the same (use on normal roads + level wishbones). I'd also like to keep 15" alloys, but it looks like 16" would fill the arches much better. I am pretty tired of the long beach alloys to be honest, they look very plain...

2. Front tow eye covers. They look pretty old, cracked and worn. Need new ones.

3. Rear tyres. I've got Toyo T1R's at the front and Uniroyal rainsport 2's at the back. Even though they're both 195/50/15, the Toyo's look lower profile and much nicer, the uniroyal's look like balloons! Will be going for Toyo's again when time comes around.

4. Rear bumper. It just looks too high! It'd be nice to have a bigger rear splitter or some other mod (not lowering otherwise it'd look too uneven!) to make the back look lower. Mmmmm diffuser!  :laugh:

5. Front splitter. VR6 one needed I think  :grin:

6. Paintwork. It's looking a bit tired, it needs some work on a few rust scabs and scratches as well as a load of stone chips on the bonnet and grill as you can see. You can see a massive set of scratches on the driver's side lower front bumper, I've had them since I bought the car, never got round to sorting them. I think if I had a polisher and lots of polishing creams as well as paintwork knowledge it'd look brilliant, but I don't.

That's it for now really  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Seanl on 06 March 2011, 07:55
Sounds like a plan! and you have mimicked exactly what I think of my car except from my tyres (I need 4 as they are all different! perks of getting part worns to get through the MOT!) :laugh:

Problem is funds first, then the fact there is always something more important to do on it and priorities change daily!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 07 March 2011, 00:00
Sounds like a plan! and you have mimicked exactly what I think of my car except from my tyres (I need 4 as they are all different! perks of getting part worns to get through the MOT!) :laugh:

Problem is funds first, then the fact there is always something more important to do on it and priorities change daily!

Indeed!

Today I've discovered I need new front ARB bushes and a rear wheel bearing. The bushes will cost £63 (polybushes of course!) and the bearing I will do with the rear disc and pads as they need doing too (uprated pads of course). So I'm looking at a fair bit of money before the wants get the priority over the needs!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 March 2011, 01:00
Been playing with photoshop today, and I would like  :smiley:

(http://i55.tinypic.com/wjumtk.jpg)


And if I had lots of money, I would do this  :cool:

(http://i52.tinypic.com/s46yiu.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Dec on 10 March 2011, 02:03
Looking good dude! Wouldn't run the risk of front tints personally though :)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 March 2011, 02:20
Oh right yeah I forgot about the tints  :grin:

I'm not a massive fan of tins in general, I was just playing about to see what they'd look like. I wouldn't get front tinted either  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Dec on 10 March 2011, 02:36
Fair play dude :) so many people do, but just thought i'd mention (not b!tch) about it :)

I like tints, but only on some cars. Want to get mine done but will only be done to a factory level so they look 'normal' rather than drug dealer styleeee :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 March 2011, 02:41
Yeah that's the best look, OEM+  :cool:

A friend I went to 6th form with had a mk3 1.6 and her had these tints that were half limo half chromed.

Don't know why everyone loved them so much  :sick: :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 10 March 2011, 07:54
Black roof is cheap and easy to sort. :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Dec on 10 March 2011, 09:17
Yeah that's the best look, OEM+  :cool:

A friend I went to 6th form with had a mk3 1.6 and her had these tints that were half limo half chromed.

Don't know why everyone loved them so much  :sick: :sick: :sick:

Yeah dude, I do like the look with a light/medium rear tint on the back, would look good on yours as its a dark colour too :smiley:

Haha! I've always wondered what the attraction is too... must be because its shiny, everyone loves shiny :tongue: Just like chrome wipers, washer jets etc... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Dec on 10 March 2011, 09:18
Black roof is cheap and easy to sort. :smiley:

Yeah if your any good with Vinyl, you could do it cheaply yourself! Just have to make sure its slightly 'lubed' and that you get no bubbles :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 10 March 2011, 09:57
Looks good although i'm not sure on the wings, will look like you've had a front ender.

As far as tints go, I like them.  Never too sure about having just the rears done as it can make some cars look like a van.  I really fancy tints on mine but would want to do all round so the only option would be a light somke which can look pretty good.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 March 2011, 13:03
By the way for those who haven't noticed, the greyish area is supposed to be carbon  :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

Roofwise, I know it's not overly expensive, but I'm not great at applying stickers to stuff so a whole roof I'd end up with a massive bubble. I'd float if I went in the water  :laugh: Well I'd do that anyway  :lipsrsealed:

And agreed that some tints make the car look like a van  :sick:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: tdi_blu on 10 March 2011, 13:37
I think the roof looks nice but the only problem im thinking is your car being dark Blue I dont think it would stand out as much but its still looks nice.The carbon front end not my thing but the tints all round would look good I reakon  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 March 2011, 13:39
I think the roof looks nice but the only problem im thinking is your car being dark Blue I dont think it would stand out as much but its still looks nice.The carbon front end not my thing but the tints all round would look good I reakon  :wink:

yeah that's the only concern I have, it doesn't stand out very much  :sad:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: tdi_blu on 10 March 2011, 13:51
I think the roof looks nice but the only problem im thinking is your car being dark Blue I dont think it would stand out as much but its still looks nice.The carbon front end not my thing but the tints all round would look good I reakon  :wink:

yeah that's the only concern I have, it doesn't stand out very much  :sad:

Only problem when you have a car thats a nice colour as the colour makes the car stand out :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 March 2011, 15:39
Cheers mate  :smiley:

Got some parts today.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110310_154254.jpg)

ARB bushes and links. Will be doing them this weekend.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dom on 10 March 2011, 20:16
I think a light tint would look good, I also like the roof, but as Shaun says it would look like you'd had a front end smash....even if it is carbon :undecided:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 March 2011, 21:13
How about a full carbon race trim?  :cool:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/Racinggolf.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 10 March 2011, 21:24
I did see a black mk4 on here with carbon wings and bonnet, to me it looked really nice  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: jamrock on 10 March 2011, 21:33
i reckon just the roof would look good. doing the arches and bonnet is a bit of a cheat if you do them in carbon. :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 11 March 2011, 16:46
Installed a chip today  :smiley:

Powerchips from ebay, Czech guy named Joe who is very helpful!

Took the car to the beach for a test drive to see how it goes. Can't really say it's a massive difference in terms of peak power, but it definitely feels smoother and torquier through the rev range. It's upgraded from tug boat to a zodiac now I think  :laugh:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110311_161004.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110311_161023.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110311_161010.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 11 March 2011, 16:50
wow, abandon ship! I see you are stuck on the rocks!  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 11 March 2011, 16:51
Mild tsunami beached me  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 11 March 2011, 16:53
Mild tsunami beached me  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You're Evil!  :evil:



 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dazzawest1987 on 11 March 2011, 19:43
How much was the chip mate if you don't mind me asking? And did you fit your self?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 11 March 2011, 19:54
I paid £25 for it. I did fit it myself, it's a push fit on the 16v  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dazzawest1987 on 11 March 2011, 20:30
Bargain, assume it was worth it for that price?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 11 March 2011, 20:33
I won't comment on it until I've given it a GOOD testing. But Rubjonny got 6hp increase on the same dyno with back to back runs in his ABF from the same chip so I'm confident it's worth it  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Seanl on 11 March 2011, 20:49
What was the sellers name? I thought they were about 50 notes but may well get one for that price!  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 11 March 2011, 20:50
Pepeoi. He sells them at £40 however I made him the £25 offer.

I feel bad now though, everyone's gonna be offering £25 :grin: :grin: :grin:  :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Seanl on 11 March 2011, 20:51
Winner! cheers mate! :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 11 March 2011, 23:09
Looking good.  :cool:

Liking the go before show.  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: tdi_blu on 12 March 2011, 09:03
Like the pics looks mean in the pics.I was at a meet the other night a llad with a 8v bought a chip of ebay and said it made a improvement Ive got my eye on one now its a push in one just got to check my ECU number.When you fit a chip doo you need to disconect the ECU and battery etc??
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 12 March 2011, 10:40
Yup. Ok I'll admit it now  :grin:
The other week, when I got a letter saying something for me from royal mail came, I disconnected my ecu on the Sunday to install chip first thing Monday morning. However when I disconnected battery I only disconnected negative. When I took ecu apart a track had burnt.
To top it off, the letter the chip was in had the bottom corner broken off and chip had slipped out in the process. Anyway I contacted pepeoi and he sent a replacement chip. I had to repair the be ecu, as the ab spare one I had as a temp was working, but car idled at 1k and it felt jerky. So I got a low wattage soldering iron and repaired the burnt track. All seems to be working fine now since last week so I'm confident it'll be ok  :smiley:
No fault codes or anything since repairing it.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dom on 12 March 2011, 14:04
Yup. Ok I'll admit it now  :grin:
The other week, when I got a letter saying something for me from royal mail came, I disconnected my ecu on the Sunday to install chip first thing Monday morning. However when I disconnected battery I only disconnected negative. When I took ecu apart a track had burnt.
To top it off, the letter the chip was in had the bottom corner broken off and chip had slipped out in the process. Anyway I contacted pepeoi and he sent a replacement chip. I had to repair the be ecu, as the ab spare one I had as a temp was working, but car idled at 1k and it felt jerky. So I got a low wattage soldering iron and repaired the burnt track. All seems to be working fine now since last week so I'm confident it'll be ok  :smiley:
No fault codes or anything since repairing it.

Ooops :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 12 March 2011, 17:41
Oh and with regards to the new found performance on the chip, I'm very happy. Definite improvement, MPG has increased and exhaust note has changed slightly too! (Either that or it's blowing, which is highly unlikely as it wasn't blowing when it was running the old chip  :grin:).

Tomorrow I'll be doing ARB links, going to check the exhaust and try and track once and for all where my scrubbing is coming from (spacers didn't fix it).
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 12 March 2011, 21:46
Would be interesting to get it on a rolling road to see what you have gained.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 12 March 2011, 21:48
Yup. I've put my name down for the national 16v RR day with clubgti, will see then  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: benvictors on 13 March 2011, 09:54
Are these the same chips that are a waste of time and they make your engine over fuel so as to give you the placebo of it being faster?!? :rolleyes: Just like them wheel spacers that make your wheels fall off and turn your dash into a flesh eating zombie (sorry, ive just got in from a ridiculously messy saturday night  :cool:)
Respect Khare, got one of these for my 8 valve when I first bought it but never fit it due to the bad press they get, everyone saying there dog sh!t  :sad: I need to get mine soldered in tho  :sad:
Sounds like they are alright mate, keep me posted  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Seanl on 13 March 2011, 13:01
some of the ones off fleabay are dog sh*t. These eproms are much better. The ones that are dodgy are a little black box which just have a resistor in, with two wires that you connect to your maf sensor. You dont wanna connect them up!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 13 March 2011, 16:17
As Sean said, these are much better. This chip is not the original map "fooled", it's a completely new map, with changes in ignition advance and fuelling. Rubjonny tested this exact chip back to back on a dyno and saw a 6hp peak increase and bigger increases throughout the rev range.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 13 March 2011, 16:31
Today I stuck the new ARB links on. The old ones were very very shagged. While doing the job, I noticed that the ARB was further to the passenger side (side that's been rubbing somewhere), so it may have been the problem all along. Anyway I evened out the ARB, tightened the new links on and got on with inspecting the suspected exhaust blowing.

Indeed it was blowing at both ends of the centre silencer pipe, so plenty of exhaust paste on that and it's fixed it  :smiley:

Gave the inside a nice vacuuming too as the dog is currently malting  :sad:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20110313_150320.jpg)

Also bad news for me is, the owner of the driveway next to my house (2 car driveway owned by a security shot next door) is a cvnt and parked up next to me in his posh merc and said next time I park there I'll be clamped, because it's his property. Completely agree it's his property but there are nicer ways to say things and also I've never done anything bad to the driveway, in fact I often sweep it so if anything it's a benefit I use it for a few hours on Sundays (when no one from next door is parked there).

Fcuk the bastard, I may "accidentally" spill some paint on his merc one day or "accidentally" drop a nail while walking on the pavement behind his car  :grin:

So I'm bummed out that I won't be able to do much car work any more, it's the only thing I look forward to in the week  :sad:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 17 March 2011, 00:06
ARB links were deffo needed big time! Car feels much better at the front end, so much better infact that now I need an upgraded roll bar as the standard isn't quite good enough (need a rear too).

Chip is the best addition to my car so far. Not only has it improved power and driveability but the MPG I'm getting is awesome! I just got back from Bournemouth, and the drive home wasn't exactly...Slow, but the car returned 36mpg! Usually on the same journey at the same pace it'd do about 30mpg  :shocked:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 17 March 2011, 21:19
Not nice on the driveway front, is it a big drive?

Interesting on the power chips, actually making a difference then?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 17 March 2011, 21:26
Not nice on the driveway front, is it a big drive?

Interesting on the power chips, actually making a difference then?

This is the driveway, picture taken from the other side.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/31032010282.jpg)

Where my car is parked on the bosses place. I was thinking I could install a railing along the side of my house (the one at the back of the picture next to the car). That railing would be about where the brick half meets the white half, and it could contain a bird feeder. That way when the tw@t parks his posh merc there it'll get shat all over  :laugh:

And yeah the chip really did make a nice difference. 16v CGTI RR day on the 24th of April in London so will found out the current power then  :smiley:

Although Ess_three ahs told me toyotec's RR is known as the heartbreaker  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 19 March 2011, 09:40
Glad to hear the chip is as promised as im going to order mine next friday.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: tshirt2k on 19 March 2011, 12:25

Although Ess_three ahs told me toyotec's RR is known as the heartbreaker  :grin:

It's called a heartbreaker, But its pretty accurate.  :wink: Hopefully i'll be there to see whats goin on. But just as a spectator.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 09 July 2012, 20:17
Covered the headlining and sunroof slide in black suedette. Need to spray grab handles, sunvisors and sunroof motor cover in black now.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20120709_201104.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: VR6_Wherry on 10 July 2012, 09:04
Bloody hard to do that! took me two goes, looks awesome!
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Post by: Khare on 10 July 2012, 10:17
Its not perfect. Had to do 2 plaits at the front to get it down properly and around grab handles it's a bit creased up, but its good enough. Next up is painting bits and bobs in black.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 11 July 2012, 22:12
I had ported the throttle body a while back, but today I removed to give it a few more touches. It's not Ess_three's extreme porting, but it's porting nonetheless.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20120711_212918.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20120711_213216.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20120711_212933.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 11 July 2012, 22:29
Any noticeable difference in drive yet mate?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 11 July 2012, 22:33
Not driven it in anger yet as I only went for an "installation" lap, but I'm not expecting a noticeable gain from what I've done today, however from the standard throttle body to the ported one I now run there is a difference yes. Better and quicker response, and it sees to pull a bit harder mid-top end. It feels like it revs a bit more freely too.

Will organize another dyno day at JKM later on this year and let's see if I can crack the 170 mark.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wazzzer on 11 July 2012, 22:38
Will organize another dyno day at JKM later on this year and let's see if I can crack the 170 mark.

As usual, I'm game  :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 11 July 2012, 22:40
Will organize another dyno day at JKM later on this year and let's see if I can crack the 170 mark.

As usual, I'm game  :wink:

You and Robin are the two I will always add to the list without even consulting you  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Horney on 11 July 2012, 22:53
Did you knife edge it as well?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 11 July 2012, 22:58
No, don't want to push my luck! From what I remember reading a while back knife edging doesn't give that much gain, and get it wrong and it won't idle.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Shady Pioneer on 12 July 2012, 00:12
Will organize another dyno day at JKM later on this year and let's see if I can crack the 170 mark.

As usual, I'm game  :wink:

You and Robin are the two I will always add to the list without even consulting you  :grin:

I'll pop down again, but won't be doing a f**king mayo challenge.  :grin:
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Post by: Khare on 12 July 2012, 23:39
Update. Feels more responsive and seems to pick up better too. Will order more sanding drums for the dremmel and do further porting.
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Post by: Khare on 06 August 2012, 23:00
Roof carbon wrapped

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/IMG_20120803_192547.jpg)

Will get a better pic soon, with the car cleaned too.

More updates soon.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 August 2012, 23:51
Your cars too dark to show it off, you should do the whole lot.  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 06 August 2012, 23:52
I may do bonnet in a few months  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 06 August 2012, 23:53
I may do bonnet in a few months  :smiley: :smiley:

Followed by the tailgate, the wings, the doors and the rest of the car. :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 21 August 2012, 19:48
Ok, wrapped the whole car now  :laugh:
Also painted wheels in white (while I save up for the pro race 1.6's), and matching hella light covers.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/Racinggolf-1.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: murraymint on 21 August 2012, 21:41
Haha. Love the relocated fuel cap  :laugh:  :cool:
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Post by: Khare on 21 August 2012, 21:45
 :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 August 2012, 21:50
Wow!... I would have at least done a photoshop of it first to see what it looked like!  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 21 August 2012, 22:02
Shocking eyyy???

Next to do I think will be light surrounds. They're currently satin black, however they need a repaint as they're pretty chipped. Don't know whether to carbon wrap them or not though as I'd quite like to do the lower part of the grill as well as that is REALLY stone chipped and I think there would be too much carbon if I did all that + the bonnet. I think I'll respray the lights, and do the lower grill only in carbon. What do you lot think?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: SoundillusioN on 21 August 2012, 22:06
Shocking eyyy???

Next to do I think will be light surrounds. They're currently satin black, however they need a repaint as they're pretty chipped. Don't know whether to carbon wrap them or not though as I'd quite like to do the lower part of the grill as well as that is REALLY stone chipped and I think there would be too much carbon if I did all that + the bonnet. I think I'll respray the lights, and do the lower grill only in carbon. What do you lot think?

the latter sounds like a good plan, and if you don't like it, add more wrap.  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 21 August 2012, 22:11
That is true  :smiley:

Will update soon then  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 01 February 2013, 09:58
A little teaser that arrived today....

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/20130201_095522_zpsdb46de7a.jpg)

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 01 February 2013, 10:46
Good choice of wheels :afro:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 01 February 2013, 10:57
I'll post a picture later on of them on the car. I'm also going to weigh them alongside the standard wheels on Toyo T1R's, will be interesting to see the difference per corner, even though these are 16".
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 01 February 2013, 12:01
Did they come with an Evo attached?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 01 February 2013, 12:07
Funnily enough no....Rather a credit card that's now melted into my wallet  :laugh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Len on 01 February 2013, 12:23
Silver tyres? :shocked:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 01 February 2013, 12:32
Len you need to get your eyes checked man!

Gloss black. I was going for anthracite, but that was a 3 week order, so I went for gloss black instead and I got free black wheel bolts and black locking bolts for them not being my first choice.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Len on 01 February 2013, 13:16
Perfect colour vision mate!

Wheels are dark grey (anthracite) tyres are definitely silver!
Or maybe a better camera!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 01 February 2013, 13:28
Tyres are 100% black, angle of photo / flash has made them look lighter.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 01 February 2013, 13:56
Correct. Flash, proximity and angle made them shiny too bright. Wheels are 100% gloss black.

Pictures to follow in a few hours.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: stow1985 on 01 February 2013, 17:17
these are on my shall I or shall I no list  :cool:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: F17BAD on 01 February 2013, 21:40
any pics mate?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dragongreengolfgti on 01 February 2013, 21:57
nice KHARE i'd also be interested in weight difference  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 01 February 2013, 22:03
Sorry boys, got too excited and wheels went on without weighing them  :grin:

Don't worry I WILL find out. I've got to sort out a rattly exhaust now I've got a solid front mount on, so I'll weigh them soon.

Pics

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/20130201_213512_zpsc57310f7.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/IMG-20130201-WA0005_zps320562c9.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/IMG-20130201-WA0006_zps8bdeeb8e.jpg)

Going to get tracking done on monday, and sometime next week I'll sort out the exhaust fouling on the rear axle.

On first impressions hockey puck engine mount is a massive upgrade. Yes there's a hell of a lot of noises now all over the car from being rattled, but engine is much more responsive when accelerating and changing gears.

Too soon to rate Falken FK452 tyres, they need to be scrubbed in.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 01 February 2013, 22:15
They look really good :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 01 February 2013, 22:18
Cheers Wayne. Front looks high for some reason, but if I lower it any more on a bump I'd get the tyre rubbing the arch. Might raise the rear a tad to even it out.

I think spacers at the back would really look good too, get the tyre flush with the arch.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Wayne on 01 February 2013, 22:19
I think spacers at the back would really look good too, get the tyre flush with the arch.

Sounds like a plan, 10mm would make a lot of difference.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Ess_Three on 01 February 2013, 22:21
Cheers Wayne. Front looks high for some reason, but if I lower it any more on a bump I'd get the tyre rubbing the arch. Might raise the rear a tad to even it out.

I think spacers at the back would really look good too, get the tyre flush with the arch.

What width and offset are they?
7.0" wide?
ET35?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: boneybradley on 01 February 2013, 23:05
I think with spacers they are going to rub your arches??
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 01 February 2013, 23:15
What width and offset are they?
7.0" wide?
ET35?

7" wide, not sure on ET, the paint was too thick around the numbers and I couldn't work it out, but 35 does ring a bell.

I think with spacers they are going to rub your arches??
To be fair if I got spacers I'd not be allowed any tuck (not that I want any), because the wheels would definitely rub, they would now if I was lower. I think 10mm will be a good number, but no more than 15 I don't think. I'll have to get the measuring tape out and see, and look into rolling all 4 arches.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 February 2013, 17:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddwWCbabgks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddwWCbabgks)

Latest Dyno run at JKM

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/2013-02-02152049_zpscf38ac4a.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/20130202_152108_zpsb1d138ae.jpg)

Not much more can be done now unless I start spending money. I did have a quick look at cams, but prices of £500+ put me off seeing as I want to change cars next year.

Oh and another wheel picture :smiley:

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-02-03144804-1_zps5413f048.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: F17BAD on 03 February 2013, 17:14
they look better than i expected, black works well with your car
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 03 February 2013, 17:17
Yeah it does. Goes well will the CF roof and black hellas. My grill is in dire need of a repaint, and I was thinking black again, thoughts?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: F17BAD on 03 February 2013, 21:40
yeah that would work well, the slats at least
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Metallix on 04 February 2013, 11:20
Are you happy with the dyno result considering you were hoping for 170bhp?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 04 February 2013, 12:02
Yes, 170hp without cams or porting and polishing the head is very very optimistic. As Ess_Three said, I might squeeze another 5hp out of a custom remap, but past 170hp I really am looking at cams, porting and higher compression.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Metallix on 04 February 2013, 12:18
Custom remap or a standalone ECU really brings the torque up, all over, with a nice midrange plateau around 160lbft.   This improvement all over in torque output makes the difference that you can really feel, but just so happens to result in ~170bhp peak.  So, although the difference between the custom/standalone and what you have currently is only +5 increase in peak bhp, the peak torque increase is more like +12lbft.  This is without uprated cams, or a ported head, but adding these will go even further.

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 04 February 2013, 12:24
But then again I'm not keeping this car for more than another year, so I can't justify spending another load of money on top of the wheels I've just bought. Who knows what happens come selling time. I might chicken out and end up keeping it! But I really want 4wd.....


Syncro time maybe?  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: thai-wronghorse on 04 February 2013, 14:49
I've contemplated a Syncro so many times.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 04 February 2013, 23:24
Hmmm I haven't but interesting................




We'll see. But I really want a scooooooooooooooooby!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Metallix on 05 February 2013, 10:51
I want an Impreza too, but it's a lot of money to get something decent & not abused.

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 February 2013, 10:57
You can get the model after the bug eye with around 80k miles and completely standard for about £3000. It's not too bad to be honest.

Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Metallix on 05 February 2013, 11:07
For me it would have to be a special version though

The older Impreza Type-R 2 door
or a type-RA or a Spec C

& these are more like double that price
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: stow1985 on 06 February 2013, 22:35
Hmmm I haven't but interesting................




We'll see. But I really want a scooooooooooooooooby!

 :cool: the only car your alowed to leave the dub scene for  :tongue:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 08 February 2013, 18:51
Cleaned, clayed and polished today. Really needs a machine polish though, it's got so many swirl marks up close, and so many paint imperfections.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-02-08172048_zps7d9d7604.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-02-08172036_zps04417a49.jpg)

Needs new number plates as the rear is letting water in between the front and the letters. Going to get some metal pressed ones from dubmeister, they're UK legal.

Also going to spray grill black, and while I'm at it respray the VW badge and hella light covers. Need to get a new splitter too. I want a VR6 one but I don't fancy getting a cheap ebay one as I know it'll crack at the first speed bump.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: stow1985 on 08 February 2013, 22:56
could do with a new splitter, at least a black one anyway  :grin:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: dom on 10 February 2013, 19:59
could do with a new splitter, at least a black one anyway  :grin:

I was going to say, some trim dressing and tyre gel would make a massive difference :wink:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: stow1985 on 10 February 2013, 21:14
or just a heatgun  :undecided:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 10 February 2013, 21:23
That picture was just after the bumper gel, it didn't do anything. Tried heat too, lasts a few days only.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 10 February 2013, 22:44
Cleaned, clayed and polished today. Really needs a machine polish though, it's got so many swirl marks up close, and so many paint imperfections.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-02-08172048_zps7d9d7604.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-02-08172036_zps04417a49.jpg)

Needs new number plates as the rear is letting water in between the front and the letters. Going to get some metal pressed ones from dubmeister, they're UK legal.

Also going to spray grill black, and while I'm at it respray the VW badge and hella light covers. Need to get a new splitter too. I want a VR6 one but I don't fancy getting a cheap ebay one as I know it'll crack at the first speed bump.

like the look of this one! good work bud
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 February 2013, 20:14
Lots done recently.

Handbrake cables changed, I can finally do J turns again  :grin:

Oil changed, ready for next rolling road day in less than 2 weeks

Gearbox mount changed, was clunking on reverse

Exhaust no longer touches the axle, however I've discovered a blow in a silencer so I'm thinking of getting a completely new system

Removed the whole emissions canister setup, made a nice big hole for a new ramair cold air pipe I'll be fitting to the lower grill, will provide more than enough air as well as the fog light cold air intake too

Next on the list is exhaust....I bought a lovely looking stainless steel centre section and seller told me it's 55mm....Got it and it was a 50mm one  :angry: So that's currently up for sale and I'm back on the lookout for a replacement.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Metallix on 20 February 2013, 09:11
Next rolling road day?  Have you done more to it that will change the output?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 20 February 2013, 09:56
Got a few ramair cold air intakes coming in the next few days, but otherwise no. I'm debating getting a new exhaust though....
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 20 February 2013, 18:05
New cold air intake setup.

80mm from the bottom air itnake and 50mm from the foglight, they both fit just perfect  :smiley:


(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-02-20162610_zpsf5c4f2a5.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-02-20165135_zps36c8f0c9.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-02-20165201_zps345022dd.jpg)

Only the dyno will tell if there's an improvement  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Metallix on 21 February 2013, 08:47
Going back to the JKM rolls to test?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 21 February 2013, 09:01
Yes on the 2nd  :smiley:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 05 March 2013, 01:14
Did you take the dash out when you swapped in the 16v?

Cheers.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 March 2013, 09:22
No, there's no need.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 05 March 2013, 09:34
Sweet cheers. All the clock looms the same?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 March 2013, 09:50
Yup.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Metallix on 05 March 2013, 09:58
How was the dyno session on the 2nd matey?

Have graph?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 March 2013, 10:13
Down 6hp apparently

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-03-05100504_zps70bbf7f7.jpg)

However I'm not sure about this. A hell of a lot of cars seemed to drop power as opposed to runs at the same dyno weeks ago/last month. I'm convinced there was something wrong with the calibration this time round. I can feel when an improvement of 1 or 2hp happens and I certainly can't feel a 6hp loss. Graph is identical to last month's 165hp run, just notched down at 158hp so I'm not sure....

However since I have repositioned the cold air intakes for better airflow.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 05 March 2013, 10:21
Didn't you mention blue smoke though?

Oily plug without sounding pedantic, definitely not the cam cover gasket?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 March 2013, 10:23
It's the oil seals or the valve guides, which is good news as it's not piston rings as I was fearing. No blue smoke, about 400ml of oil used every 5-6k miles, however cylinder 3 has a wet plug and looking down the plug hole the crown looks wet, so it's not cam cover gasket.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 March 2013, 12:11
Here's a comparison between the 159hp and the 165hp run.

Identical path, just lower numbers, hence why I suspect it's calibration related.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/JKMRR158hpv165hp_zps69b2fb0a.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Bellend on 05 March 2013, 13:02
It's the oil seals or the valve guides, which is good news as it's not piston rings as I was fearing. No blue smoke, about 400ml of oil used every 5-6k miles, however cylinder 3 has a wet plug and looking down the plug hole the crown looks wet, so it's not cam cover gasket.

Ah okay. I think your idea of getting a head all sorted first then swapping is the best idea IMO.

Still not cheap with new belts and gaskets though!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 March 2013, 13:10
Nope, looking at about £60 for headgasket set, £20 for bolts and then the head on top of that, as well as skimming if it's needed.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Metallix on 05 March 2013, 13:59
Your previous test was on a low pressure day and your recent test was on a high pressure day.

Although the high presure should be better for the engine, the dyno will correct for the high pressure and reduce your figures.

It is a correction like this that may explain the difference.

Other things would be to compare the AFR plots from the two days if you got those printouts aswell.  NVM if you didn't as not everywhere gives those out as standard.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 March 2013, 15:22
Here's the AFR. Fainter line is the 165hp run.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-03-051508_zps259d61c5.jpg)

Figures at the bottom are from 158hp run, here's the 165hp run's figures.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/20130202_152108_zpsb1d138ae.jpg)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 05 March 2013, 17:36
I think I've found out the reason why I may be down on power.....


Intermediate pipe rusted and has broken off the decat pipe! Jesus christ it's loud, embarrassingly loud. Had to drive down the high street with a polity "sorry" grin on my face. I think It's heard within 10 miles  :shocked: :embarrassed:

Going to go for a new system, ofcourse. Another spenditure I wasn't looking forward to!
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 16 March 2013, 08:31
did you notice any difference in mpg when you ported your throttle khare?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 16 March 2013, 12:55
Nope, none.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Metallix on 18 March 2013, 11:38
Porting the ABF throttle should make the response from a closed plate to an opening much more snappy.

The stock ABF throttle plate hides behind the hump in the throttle body for the first ~10 degrees of opening (can't remember exaclty how many degrees but it is significant for response).  IMO in stock form this gives a deadzone feel until you open the plate angle wider.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 18 March 2013, 13:58
Porting the ABF throttle should make the response from a closed plate to an opening much more snappy.

The stock ABF throttle plate hides behind the hump in the throttle body for the first ~10 degrees of opening (can't remember exaclty how many degrees but it is significant for response).  IMO in stock form this gives a deadzone feel until you open the plate angle wider.

I know what you mean about the deadzone.. mine was quite sluggish in the first few thousand revs but after even a mild bit of work (there's still more to take off!) it feels a lot snappier low down. I love free mods :)
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 18 March 2013, 14:06
It is a great upgrade, very noticeable the indeed.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 18 March 2013, 14:11
Yeah its sweeet man  :cool:

I noticed you've done a fair bit of airbox experimentation, my lower will be similar to yours.. i have a couple of questions though if you could help..

1.is it worth smoothing the upper part of the airbox
2.whats better for the opening? a single large opening or two smaller openings? I am thinking the airflow will be more directional with a single opening?

cheers
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 18 March 2013, 14:26
Definitely smooth the top of the airbox as well. Where the opening that connects to the intake pipe is, round that off so it's not a sharp edge if you know what I mean. Regarding the openings, I have two on mine.

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-01-12171213_zps5a5e5565.jpg)

Top half with the rounded lip

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-01-12171249_zpsbec29fa5.jpg)

(http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh115/kharekatoh/golf%20mk3/2013-02-20165135_zps36c8f0c9.jpg)

Since that was taken I've pulled the smaller air feed out of the hole and aimed it in that direction rather than actually being in the airbox, and I've cut away the bit from the slam panel that obstructs the bigger hole.
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Len on 18 March 2013, 14:29
That inside only shows one hole? :huh:
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 18 March 2013, 22:38
That's because that's the top half Len  :grin:
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Post by: whileoceanasleeps on 19 March 2013, 07:22
cool cheers for that khare. got my top half all smooth now  :smiley: did you go for the larger trumpet from the top?
Title: Re: khare's mk3 GTI...16v!
Post by: Khare on 19 March 2013, 07:27
No trumpet on my top half, just rounded the inlet.