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Re: Detailing My ClubSport
« Reply #30 on: 24 March 2021, 17:29 »
@Brocky; car looks great. I washed mine yesterday and intended taking some pictures but forgot!  :shocked:. I’ll try and remember the next time I use it (it’s in my garage keeping clean, so should stay that way for a photo shoot - if I remember :grin:).

@Kpow99. I invested in a DA polisher about 8 years ago and it was a very worthwhile investment and has paid for itself many times over. It’s very good for spot correction (e.g. removing etching from bird poo) as well as polishing the whole car. My brother was very impressed when I did some spot correction on his car - removed some scuffs from the paintwork that he thought would cost quite a few £’s to correct. Until I bought my DA I’d never used a machine polisher so I read a few ‘how to’ guides and watched some DA polishing videos on YouTube and got stuck in on my car!

A DA polisher is a pretty safe piece of kit so the risk of damaging the paint or striking through the clear coat is very low IMHO. The polishing head oscillates so there’s very little heat build up and if you apply too much pressure while polishing, the polishing head stops rotating.

As with many jobs, good prep is key. A thorough decontamination is important, and spending time taping up is time well spent. It usually takes me 2.5 - 3 days to give my car ‘the works’ (wash and dry, decontaminate, tape up, polish (two stage) wipe down, second wash, apply two coats of protection. Always start with the least aggressive combination of pad and polish and if that doesn’t provide enough ‘cut’, change the pad / polish combination for something slightly more aggressive.

I don’t give my car ‘the works’ very often these days - with advancing years, it can be quite hard work and I find I get aches in places I didn’t know existed :grin:.

For anyone who’s a keen detailer, I’d say investing in a DA polisher is very worthwhile.
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2011 mk6 Golf GTD; Carbon Grey
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Re: Detailing My ClubSport
« Reply #31 on: 27 March 2021, 16:38 »
I know some folks like a good beading shot...

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Re: Detailing My ClubSport
« Reply #32 on: 28 March 2021, 09:21 »
@Brocky; car looks great. I washed mine yesterday and intended taking some pictures but forgot!  :shocked:. I’ll try and remember the next time I use it (it’s in my garage keeping clean, so should stay that way for a photo shoot - if I remember :grin:).

@Kpow99. I invested in a DA polisher about 8 years ago and it was a very worthwhile investment and has paid for itself many times over. It’s very good for spot correction (e.g. removing etching from bird poo) as well as polishing the whole car. My brother was very impressed when I did some spot correction on his car - removed some scuffs from the paintwork that he thought would cost quite a few £’s to correct. Until I bought my DA I’d never used a machine polisher so I read a few ‘how to’ guides and watched some DA polishing videos on YouTube and got stuck in on my car!

A DA polisher is a pretty safe piece of kit so the risk of damaging the paint or striking through the clear coat is very low IMHO. The polishing head oscillates so there’s very little heat build up and if you apply too much pressure while polishing, the polishing head stops rotating.

As with many jobs, good prep is key. A thorough decontamination is important, and spending time taping up is time well spent. It usually takes me 2.5 - 3 days to give my car ‘the works’ (wash and dry, decontaminate, tape up, polish (two stage) wipe down, second wash, apply two coats of protection. Always start with the least aggressive combination of pad and polish and if that doesn’t provide enough ‘cut’, change the pad / polish combination for something slightly more aggressive.

I don’t give my car ‘the works’ very often these days - with advancing years, it can be quite hard work and I find I get aches in places I didn’t know existed :grin:.

For anyone who’s a keen detailer, I’d say investing in a DA polisher is very worthwhile.

Thanks mate I’ll have a look 👍🏻👍🏻
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Re: Detailing My ClubSport
« Reply #33 on: 08 April 2021, 02:33 »
Full detail today - inside & out.

Inside needed a hoover, I did the interior glass with AngelWax Vision as I could see where the dealer had used a manky rag to do the windscreen before me  :rolleyes:  and did the interior plastics with Auto Finesse Spritz to get rid of some light dust, fingerprints and to add a bit of UV protection.

Exterior was fairly dirty - not so much on the front half but was especially filthy up the rear bumper and hatch - the Golf really seems to get extra dirty back there - and so got a full maintenance wash.  I also got to use some new kit that I picked up this week:
  • MTM Hydro 22.2 Foam Lance
  • Direct Hoses Quick-Release Short Trigger with 10m replacement hose

Method
  • Rinse
  • Koch Chemie Gentle Snow Foam & MTM Hydro 22.2 Foam Lance
  • Wheel clean using separate wheel bucket, CarPro Reset shampoo, Microfibre Madness Incrediflair Wheel Mitt, Wheel Woolies & Envy Detailing brushes
  • Rinse
  • 2-bucket contact wash using CarPro Reset shampoo, Microfibre Madness Incredimitt & Envy Detailing brushes
  • Rinse
  • Towel-dry using Klin Korea Evo
  • Blow dry of panel gaps and other water traps with BLO AIR-S dryer & MF cloth
  • Quick Detail using FeynLab Detailer (matches my coating), Costco yellow MF cloths & Klin Korea Zero finishing cloth to buff
  • Exterior glass clean with AngelWax Vision & In2Detailing Korean Waffle Weave Glass Cloth

Some thoughts...

Still feeling my way round this detailing thing and learning as I go.  After leaving my last wash too late in the day, ending up losing light and having to drop steps from my method on the fly, I made sure to start earlier this time.  The weather was perfect, if a little cold, and I remembered to put on my splash-proof pants and jacket this time.  Definitely need to get some better suited footwear, though.

First up, the Short Trigger and 10m replacement hose set I got from Direct Hoses is an utter game-changer!  My standard Nilfisk lance and 4m hose set has been chucked in the shed and I don't think it will see daylight for a long time.  The 10m hose allows me to get round the whole car without having to reposition the pressure washer, plus it doesn't get twisted up anywhere near as easily, thanks to its construction and the swivel on the short trigger - though I definitely need to pick up some of those 'hose roller' thingymajigs that go underneath your tyres to stop the hose from snagging as you manoeuvre round the car.  Quick-release is heaven and being able to quickly twist the nozzle to get the best angle for each panel is so handy.  If you're debating getting one of these quick-release short triggers, just do it!

Last time around, I struggled a bit with the foam step - having too thin foam for my liking (which I thought was partly down to the Koch Chemie GSF) and ending up with over half my mixture left.  This time was a completely different story, using the MTM Hydro 22.2 instead of the AutoBrite lance - which has now joined the Nilfisk lance & hose in the shed - and having swapped to the smaller  orifice - which I figured was the right thing to do, as I am only using a Nilfisk C110 - and I was getting some crazy-thick foam.  So much so, that I had to back off the mixture screw quite a bit, due to it burning through mixture way too fast.  The MTM Hydro cannon is a brilliant bit of kit, though it's quite pricy and I am sure some will say "X foam cannon is just as good at half the price".  That said, if it lasts me a couple of years, I will definitely feel that I have got my money's worth, as it is great at its job. Pretty sure I have found the sweet spot with regards to getting the right foam consistency now, although, I am still not seeing great results from the GSF with regards to cleaning power.  I know that it's not supposed to be the best at breaking down traffic film and the like, due to being gentle, but I was expecting a little more than I am getting.  I am thinking I should add a couple of cap-fulls of Koch Chemie Green Star to the mix to give it a bit of extra bite, but I am not sure if that will affect my ceramic coating.  Suggestions and advice welcome.

Contact wash.  Incredimitt & Reset.  Brilliant!  Job done.  Enough said.

Drying off with the Klin Evo is a dream and I finally got to use the BLO AIR-S dryer to dry out the water traps, mopping up with a MF as I went.  Although I am sure it could be used for a complete dry on a ceramic coated car, I feel that it would take too much time and so I don't think I will ever use it to do so, as it's just so much quicker using the towel on the panels and then following up with the dryer.  Maybe once I have become a bit quicker in completing my regimen, I will give it a go.  One thing I did notice is that the Golf 8 seems to trap quite a bit of water in the rear door shuts and it pours out when the door is opened.  I will need to remember this when drying off next time, as I only found out when I opened to door to drop my window during the glass-cleaning step.

Quick Detailing - Using FeynLab QD as it is the same brand as my coating.  It seems to be good stuff and it smells amazing but I will need to pick some more up soon.  I am down to around 2/3 of a bottle after only two washes.  Maybe I am using too much?  Not sure.  It's not easy to tell with a white car.  I am doing 2-3 squirts per panel with 2-3 on each half of the bonnet, the same on the roof and 2 squirts on the spoiler.  I wipe on evenly and then immediately buff with a separate finishing cloth.

Whilst going round with the QD, I noticed I am getting some tar spots here and there.  I found around 8-10 in total at various locations.  Maybe the next wash or the one after will need a decontamination phase, though I will need to look into how best to do this whilst not messing with the ceramic coat.  I have some Tardis, some Iron-X, some ValetPro Bilberry wheel cleaner as well as some CarPro Reload to use as a topper, so I will see where we're at, next wash.

Finally, I wanted to treat the tyres to a going over with TufShine Tyre Appearance Kit and wanted to dress the exterior plastics to some AngelWax Enigma Corona but, by the time I had done the exterior glass with AngelWax Vision (which went better than doing it in failing light last time), it had started to lightly hail/sleet (crazy weather at the moment!) and I was informed that a Domino's was on the way, so I decided to leave it until the next one and set to cleaning and packing up my kit.

All-in-all, I feel like I was more efficient than my last wash - helped greatly by the quick-release trigger & longer hose, despite doing interior and using the blower as well - so I feel like I am making progress and learning more as I go.  I definitely need to get the hose roller guide wotsits and I reckon I need to get a decent kneeling mat as well.  I am 42 and these things aren't as bearable as they once would've been!

Due to the looming Domino's, I again forgot to grab some pictures!  :grin:  I will try to get some tomorrow and will post them up.

As said earlier, any tips, tricks, advice or suggestions are very much welcome!  Thanks for reading and I hope my documenting my foray into detailing helps someone out in some way.

See you next time!
« Last Edit: 08 April 2021, 02:40 by Brocky_ »
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Re: Detailing My ClubSport
« Reply #34 on: 08 April 2021, 07:13 »
@Brocky; it’s good to see another detailing enthusiast paying regular visits to the Detailing forum board. I will confess to not visiting as often as I used to, but then I don’t own a Golf GTI (current car’s a 2020 Polo GTI+) and this is a Golf GTI forum.

I also bought a 10m flexible hose from Direct Hoses about a year ago for my Nilfisk pressure washer. Like you, I was fed up having to move the pressure washer around because the hose wasn’t long enough to reach all the way around the car. The new hose solved that and is so much more flexible than the original hard one that was supplied with the pressure washer. A recommended purchase for anyone who gets frustrated with the limitations of the original hose. I do find the Autobrite Lance is good though, although it took a few uses after I first got it to get the snow foam mix and flow ‘just right’. The Autobrite lance is also relatively easy to dismantle for thorough cleaning of the component parts if it becomes clogged over time - mine did; I put it down to being in a hard water area. I’ve considered getting a set of those little plastic things to put under the tyres to stop the constant battle with trapped hoses but haven’t ever taken the plunge, so I’d be interested to hear how you get on with them if you buy a set.

I did say in a recent post that I’d put up a picture of my car when I last washed it but forgot!, so here it is. I washed it at the beginning of the week last week - during the two day mini heatwave. It’s gathered a little bit of dirt in the picture as I’d used before remembering to take a photo, but hopefully it’s not too dirty to post up in the Detailing section of the forum :smiley:.



I see you are investing in, and experimenting with, different products. This detailing malarkey can become quite expensive if you’re not careful! :grin:. I also use a warm air blower and over time have perfected the art of drying the whole car with it. I do still go around with a drying towel or two to dry up any water droplets that get left behind though.

I’d be interested to know how long you’re spending on the pre-wash, wash and dry stages. I find that it normally takes me anything from 2.5 - 3 hours, but I’m not a mobile as I used to be (advancing years and back pain problems that get worse with age). It takes me almost as long to wash the wheels (including wheel barrels and the back of the spokes), brake calipers, wheel arch liners, grilles, exhaust tips and the underside of the sills as it does to wash the visible exterior body panels. Drying doesn’t take too long, provided my wax / sealant is still holding up, as my warm air blower is pretty good at blowing the water beads off the bodywork. I found a quick going over with some quick detailer was necessary after the last wash as I couldn’t get the car dry before I had dried on water spots - especially on the gloss black trim pieces (especially the B pillars). My least favourite part of the car washing process is cleaning and clearing away all the cleaning gear - seems to take me forever!

Look forward to reading your future updates on your detailing exploits.
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2011 mk6 Golf GTD; Carbon Grey
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Re: Detailing My ClubSport
« Reply #35 on: 10 April 2021, 15:00 »
@Brocky; it’s good to see another detailing enthusiast paying regular visits to the Detailing forum board. I will confess to not visiting as often as I used to, but then I don’t own a Golf GTI (current car’s a 2020 Polo GTI+) and this is a Golf GTI forum.
I am sure nobody is really bothered that it's not a Golf, mate.  We all appreciate a tidy car and yours is definitely tidy and as close to a Golf GTI as it gets, really.



I also bought a 10m flexible hose from Direct Hoses about a year ago for my Nilfisk pressure washer. Like you, I was fed up having to move the pressure washer around because the hose wasn’t long enough to reach all the way around the car. The new hose solved that and is so much more flexible than the original hard one that was supplied with the pressure washer. A recommended purchase for anyone who gets frustrated with the limitations of the original hose.
For sure.  Quick-release is great, as is the extra length but it's the way the hose handles that is actually the stand-out feature for me.  It just makes things so much less cumbersome.  One hundred percent a recommended purchase for anyone who regularly washes their own car.



I do find the Autobrite Lance is good though, although it took a few uses after I first got it to get the snow foam mix and flow ‘just right’.
I only used the AB lance a couple of times and I did like it, to be fair. As with you, I did have to fiddle a bit to get it just right but the MTM Hydro is definitely better.  So much so that I went a bit overboard and had to back it off a couple of clicks to avoid running out of mixture before I had got full coverage.



I’ve considered getting a set of those little plastic things to put under the tyres to stop the constant battle with trapped hoses but haven’t ever taken the plunge, so I’d be interested to hear how you get on with them if you buy a set.
I am going to order some when I have finished this post and should hopefully have them for my next wash.  I am a little concerned that I will forget them when putting away my gear and only remember when I hear 'crunch' as I set off to work then next morning, but we'll see how it goes.  :grin:



I see you are investing in, and experimenting with, different products. This detailing malarkey can become quite expensive if you’re not careful! :grin:.
Oh, I have spent a small fortune already.  I feel like I am pretty well set up for my needs now, though, and once I find something that works, I will rarely change, so I am not really much of an experimenting type and shouldn't suffer from having lots of part-used products due to chasing the next best thing.  Also, having a ceramic coating means that I am not tempted to indulge in the myriad of waxes and sealants that are out there, which I can see being potentially very addictive and expensive!



I also use a warm air blower and over time have perfected the art of drying the whole car with it. I do still go around with a drying towel or two to dry up any water droplets that get left behind though.
A chap on Detailing World just recommended spending just a couple of minutes with the blower to just get as much of the water off as possible and then using the drying towel to mop up....which is the opposite way to my method (complete dry with towel then mop up gaps with blower & MF) but it makes sense.  I will try that way next time and see if it cuts my time down a little.



I’d be interested to know how long you’re spending on the pre-wash, wash and dry stages. I find that it normally takes me anything from 2.5 - 3 hours, but I’m not a mobile as I used to be (advancing years and back pain problems that get worse with age). It takes me almost as long to wash the wheels (including wheel barrels and the back of the spokes), brake calipers, wheel arch liners, grilles, exhaust tips and the underside of the sills as it does to wash the visible exterior body panels. Drying doesn’t take too long, provided my wax / sealant is still holding up, as my warm air blower is pretty good at blowing the water beads off the bodywork. I found a quick going over with some quick detailer was necessary after the last wash as I couldn’t get the car dry before I had dried on water spots - especially on the gloss black trim pieces (especially the B pillars).
Around the same 2-3 hours if I don't do interior.  An extra hour or so if I do.  And yes, getting round the lower parts of the car is definitely tough.  I am 42 and I have a fairly sloped, block-paved drive, so can't really use one of those stools with casters on, I don't feel.  I may get a long (sides) and a short (front & rear) kneeling mat and see how I fare with that.



My least favourite part of the car washing process is cleaning and clearing away all the cleaning gear - seems to take me forever!
Yep!  :grin:  Although, that's where the short trigger again shines.  It's so easy to rinse everything down, compared to the regular Nilfisk lance.  I rinse my buckets, stack them, then rinse the foam bottle out and chuck it in the bucket, then put my mitts on, give them a squeeze and a going-over with the short trigger and then a good shake-out.  Same with my brushes and everything gets chucked in the bucket and put into the shed.  Mitts and cloths go to be washed. Hose lines get rinsed off and then reeled up and we're done.  I would really love one of those huge garages with a wall-mounted pressure washer with hose reels and a hanging-spot for everything and a dedicated MF washer & dryer, but meh...!  :grin:



Look forward to reading your future updates on your detailing exploits.
Cheers!  Hopefully we will get a bit more action in the Detailing section over the next few months, as the weather gets better.
« Last Edit: 10 April 2021, 15:06 by Brocky_ »
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