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Offline WatchThis

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When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« on: 13 February 2019, 19:28 »
So, car in anything other than Eco mode. I get either S or D as the prefix to the gear indicator.
Put the car in Eco and I get E as the prefix to the gear indicator and 'Eco' displayed in the top left corner of the infotainment display. Drive down the road without the adaptive cruise control on and when I lift off, the revs drop to tick-over and the car reports 'Cruising' on the economy view on the dash. All is well. :smiley:
Now, if I kill the engine and restart, it still says 'Eco' on the infotainment and the mode screen also shows 'Eco', but the gear indicator prefix is 'D' and it won't go into 'Cruising' when I lift off..
I can get it back into 'proper' Eco, by pressing the Mode button repeatedly until it cycles back round to Eco.
Anyone else get this? Will VW take this moan seriously?  :laugh:

 
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Re: When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« Reply #1 on: 13 February 2019, 20:05 »
So, car in anything other than Eco mode. I get either S or D as the prefix to the gear indicator.
Put the car in Eco and I get E as the prefix to the gear indicator and 'Eco' displayed in the top left corner of the infotainment display. Drive down the road without the adaptive cruise control on and when I lift off, the revs drop to tick-over and the car reports 'Cruising' on the economy view on the dash. All is well. :smiley:
Now, if I kill the engine and restart, it still says 'Eco' on the infotainment and the mode screen also shows 'Eco', but the gear indicator prefix is 'D' and it won't go into 'Cruising' when I lift off..
I can get it back into 'proper' Eco, by pressing the Mode button repeatedly until it cycles back round to Eco.
Anyone else get this? Will VW take this moan seriously?  :laugh:

That's correct, it's by design.
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Re: When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« Reply #2 on: 13 February 2019, 20:22 »
Would be nice if all the other modes were this crap too on a restart... :laugh:
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Re: When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« Reply #3 on: 14 February 2019, 09:36 »
Sport is the same IIRC....

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Re: When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« Reply #4 on: 14 February 2019, 09:42 »

I can get it back into 'proper' Eco, by pressing the Mode button repeatedly until it cycles back round to Eco.


You don't have cycle through all the modes to activate proper Eco again - just press the mode button once and tap the Eco button on the screen.
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Re: When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« Reply #5 on: 14 February 2019, 10:03 »
Yes an annoying design. Only takes a few seconds to switch back however.

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Re: When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« Reply #6 on: 14 February 2019, 10:35 »
Could it be the car telling you an Eco mode on a GTI is a stupid idea? :whistle: :rolleyes: :laugh:
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Re: When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« Reply #7 on: 15 February 2019, 10:10 »
Hi, I have been running my Golf in Eco (to try and justify its not too expensive to run) and was getting around 41mpg, I'm now in normal mode and getting 43-44 mpg... WTF!  :laugh:

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Re: When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« Reply #8 on: 15 February 2019, 13:37 »
Eco mode dulls the throttle response so you invariably use more throttle to push on. The GTi isn't an expensive car to run and why it needs a pointless eco mode option is beyond most people. You want eco mode in a GTi then you probably bought the wrong car.
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Re: When Eco mode isn't Eco mode....
« Reply #9 on: 15 February 2019, 14:07 »
If you're in Eco mode with DSG in "E" gear selection, you have marginal gains from freewheeling down gradients. The throttle response is dulled too, so pressing the throttle to just before the clicky bit (that's like an old kick down botton), you'll get the same response as about half that travel in Sport Mode. Normal gives you about 3/4 of Sport mode's response, but with no freewheeling gains and "D" gear selection. Sport gives you full throttle response across the range of the pedal travel, and "S" gear change thresholds have you holding about 3k revs as a minimum in any gear under low load before it'll change up.

Throttle response doesn't affect mpg directly, you use less pedal in Sport mode to attain and maintain the same speed in Normal or Eco. Sport is thirsty if you leave the gearbox in S mode. I have my Polo GTI+ in Sport mode, but keep the Gearbox in "D" (pull back against the spring on thd lever to cycle between D and S when Sport mode is active, or between D and E when eco mode is active)- that way I have the pedal/engine response of Sport but don't hold onto high revs when the car isn't getting driven hard.

It's as economical as normal mode, with Sport response when you put your foot down.

So...how many people drive theirs in Eco and Normal, then added a pedal box because their throttle response felt dull?
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