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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #20 on: 25 December 2018, 21:38 »
Yes, microfibre pad or I use some Gtechniq applicator pads which are great.

Unfortunately, White is a nightmare if it’s not had a good paint Sealant on and maintained. I’ve done a number of white cars including a less than 12 month old GTI and decontamination took a long time. Rust spots from fallout and tar spots.

Hope you get the wheels sorted. Should come up mint.
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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #21 on: 28 December 2018, 18:54 »
OP, did you sort your issue?
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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #22 on: 28 December 2018, 20:39 »
OP, did you sort your issue?

I haven't got time yet to be honest. Most likely will look at it tomorrow after I change my tyres.  :evil:

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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #23 on: 29 December 2018, 13:04 »
I must be most unlucky guy in here  :sick:

Went to change tyres today and after collecting car thats what I noticed, every wheel  :sick: :sick:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_-SeluIOECHSdqC6v1Zom-gGDYv_lNe8

https://drive.google.com/open?id=15mUy0bRxsJx8bEOQ0AYNXFbt7ZyK1efi

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bGmPglchweoP9Kpheq9QynJS_jjyQd0H

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FDpC4_ghwYiHNzTeX75pZzUlPBj3AzP2

Obviously I went back straight away and complained, at first they didn't admit, but later when I said ok but on rear there were still originals never touched so ye, even then they never admitted, but they changed the tone and said has to be taken via BC .
All was done via blackcircles so do you think Ill get anywhere or should I get ready to claim on my wheel insurance ( luckily I bought it from dealer  :shocked: )

« Last Edit: 29 December 2018, 13:19 by Aparat »

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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #24 on: 29 December 2018, 13:23 »
I must be most unlucky guy in here  :sick:

Went to change tyres today and after collecting car thats what happen, every wheel  :sick: :sick:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_-SeluIOECHSdqC6v1Zom-gGDYv_lNe8

https://drive.google.com/open?id=15mUy0bRxsJx8bEOQ0AYNXFbt7ZyK1efi

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bGmPglchweoP9Kpheq9QynJS_jjyQd0H

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FDpC4_ghwYiHNzTeX75pZzUlPBj3AzP2

Obviously I went back straight away and complained, at first they didn't admit, but later when I said ok but on rear there were still originals never touched so ye, even then they never admitted, but they changed the tone and said has to be taken via BC .
All was done via blackcircles so do you think Ill get anywhere or should I get ready to claim on my wheel insurance ( luckily I bought it from dealer  :shocked: )

So many stories on various forums of wheels being damaged by either careless tyre fitters or poorly maintained tyre changing equipment. Diamond cut alloys seem to be particularly susceptible to damage - more so than good old painted / powder coated wheels.

Hindsight’s a wonderful thing, but always ensure wheels are clean before taking a car to have tyres fitted. Take photos as evidence of the condition of the wheels, get the tyre fitting place to agree the condition of the wheels before they start work, and let them know you’ve taken photos. This shouldn’t really be necessary, but these days it seems to be considered OK by some tyre fitting places to damage a customer’s wheels and not accept responsibility or even tell them!

Alternatively, get your tyres fitted by a wheel refurbishment company who know how to fit tyres without damaging the wheel.
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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #25 on: 29 December 2018, 13:33 »
I must be most unlucky guy in here  :sick:

Went to change tyres today and after collecting car thats what happen, every wheel  :sick: :sick:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_-SeluIOECHSdqC6v1Zom-gGDYv_lNe8

https://drive.google.com/open?id=15mUy0bRxsJx8bEOQ0AYNXFbt7ZyK1efi

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bGmPglchweoP9Kpheq9QynJS_jjyQd0H

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FDpC4_ghwYiHNzTeX75pZzUlPBj3AzP2

Obviously I went back straight away and complained, at first they didn't admit, but later when I said ok but on rear there were still originals never touched so ye, even then they never admitted, but they changed the tone and said has to be taken via BC .
All was done via blackcircles so do you think Ill get anywhere or should I get ready to claim on my wheel insurance ( luckily I bought it from dealer  :shocked: )

So many stories on various forums of wheels being damaged by either careless tyre fitters or poorly maintained tyre changing equipment. Diamond cut alloys seem to be particularly susceptible to damage - more so than good old painted / powder coated wheels.

Hindsight’s a wonderful thing, but always ensure wheels are clean before taking a car to have tyres fitted. Take photos as evidence of the condition of the wheels, get the tyre fitting place to agree the condition of the wheels before they start work, and let them know you’ve taken photos. This shouldn’t really be necessary, but these days it seems to be considered OK by some tyre fitting places to damage a customer’s wheels and not accept responsibility or even tell them!

Alternatively, get your tyres fitted by a wheel refurbishment company who know how to fit tyres without damaging the wheel.
They where premier garage on BC so how should I know, just thinking if Ill get anywhere with BC.
Second thought is I still have few days left to cancel my diamond cut wheel and tyre insurance ( £600 ) and get non diamond cut wheels, because to be honest Im already sick of them. Any suggestions ?

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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #26 on: 29 December 2018, 13:53 »
I must be most unlucky guy in here  :sick:

Went to change tyres today and after collecting car thats what happen, every wheel  :sick: :sick:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_-SeluIOECHSdqC6v1Zom-gGDYv_lNe8

https://drive.google.com/open?id=15mUy0bRxsJx8bEOQ0AYNXFbt7ZyK1efi

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bGmPglchweoP9Kpheq9QynJS_jjyQd0H

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FDpC4_ghwYiHNzTeX75pZzUlPBj3AzP2

Obviously I went back straight away and complained, at first they didn't admit, but later when I said ok but on rear there were still originals never touched so ye, even then they never admitted, but they changed the tone and said has to be taken via BC .
All was done via blackcircles so do you think Ill get anywhere or should I get ready to claim on my wheel insurance ( luckily I bought it from dealer  :shocked: )

So many stories on various forums of wheels being damaged by either careless tyre fitters or poorly maintained tyre changing equipment. Diamond cut alloys seem to be particularly susceptible to damage - more so than good old painted / powder coated wheels.

Hindsight’s a wonderful thing, but always ensure wheels are clean before taking a car to have tyres fitted. Take photos as evidence of the condition of the wheels, get the tyre fitting place to agree the condition of the wheels before they start work, and let them know you’ve taken photos. This shouldn’t really be necessary, but these days it seems to be considered OK by some tyre fitting places to damage a customer’s wheels and not accept responsibility or even tell them!

Alternatively, get your tyres fitted by a wheel refurbishment company who know how to fit tyres without damaging the wheel.
They where premier garage on BC so how should I know, just thinking if Ill get anywhere with BC.
Second thought is I still have few days left to cancel my diamond cut wheel and tyre insurance ( £600 ) and get non diamond cut wheels, because to be honest Im already sick of them. Any suggestions ?

I would certainly push for Black Circles to pick up the cost of refurbishment at a refurbisher of your choice (I’d choose Lepsons as they’re considered to be one of the best; www.lepsons.com). With diamond cut alloys, they’ll need a full refurbishment rather than a localised SMART repair to the damaged area, so don’t accept Black Circles trying to fob you off with a SMART repair.

I dislike diamond cut alloys - they have great showroom appeal and a high ‘bling’ factor if that’s your thing, but given the choice, I would always opt for wheels with a painted / powder coated finish, which is much more durable finish than a diamond cut lacquered finish. And there’s no risk of white worm corrosion either with painted / powder coated alloys.

With both my previous and current cars, I changed my wheels from diamond cut to a set of anthracite / gun metal coloured set of painted / powder coated alloys.
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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #27 on: 29 December 2018, 14:15 »
Are they based in Kent? Might be a little too far from West Yorkshire. Any recommendations closer to Huddersfield?
Regarding BC will have to wait until Monday ,if they opened, or 2nd of January  to contact them.

By the way are these alloys: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nMnM6NlK4i9ZxDvZ4z4easkii-NzbQqt
painted or powder coated, might be obvious for some but I'm new to all this
Any websites I can have a look/buy such a wheels for GTI, must be 18 inch. If they agree to pay me I could use that money towards new wheels I suppose
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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #28 on: 29 December 2018, 16:24 »
Are they based in Kent? Might be a little too far from West Yorkshire. Any recommendations closer to Huddersfield?
Regarding BC will have to wait until Monday ,if they opened, or 2nd of January  to contact them.

By the way are these alloys: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nMnM6NlK4i9ZxDvZ4z4easkii-NzbQqt
painted or powder coated, might be obvious for some but I'm new to all this
Any websites I can have a look/buy such a wheels for GTI, must be 18 inch, don't want to go over that and have 4 new tyres choice is even easier. If they agree to pay me I might use that money towards new wheels I suppose

Yes, Lepsons are based in Gillingham in Kent. Sorry, I don’t know of any reputable wheel refurbishers in your area, but hopefully someone else on the forum who reads this thread can provide a recommendation. Can’t be 100% sure from the picture, but it looks as if the Audi wheels are powder coated. Not sure a VW centre cap would fit those though, and you’d need to establish what the wheel width and offset are, so any impacts on clearance could be determined.

On the subject of replacement wheels in general, a bit of a brain dump below that’ll hopefully be of use.

There are lots of sellers alloy wheels on the internet. If you’re considering new, then you could try sites such as rimstyle.com, performancealloys.com or wheelbasealloys.com. There will be many others. Some members on vwroc.com have bought 18” VW Pretoria replicas from cmwheels.com and IMO those wheels look good. Forum member Mkgti has a set in gunmetal grey on his Tornado Red GTI - pictures in this thread (first post on page 1);

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284340.msg2597909#msg2597909

For the mk7/mk7.5 Golf, wheels need to have a PCD (bolt pattern) of 5x112 and ideally a centre bore of 57.1. The centre bore can be larger as spigot rings can be fitted to the centre of the wheel to reduce the centre bore size to 57.1, ensuring the correct fit on the car’s hubs. If you’re buying new from a reputable on line retailer, they should supply a fitting kit with the wheels they sell to ensure they fit your car correctly. They should also ensure that the wheel load capabilities of any wheels for your car will comfortably support the weight of your car - the axle load of your car must be less than or equal to the load capability of any wheels you fit, otherwise you will be breaking the law and you’ll probably invalidate your insurance.

You also need to consider the offset (ET) and width of any replacement wheels to ensure you don’t experience any fouling from the inner face with the suspension or rubbing of the tyres against the wheel arch with the outer face. Pretty certain your current ‘Parker’ wheels are 7.5Jx18 ET51. If I was considering new wheels for a Golf GTI I wouldn’t go any wider than 8”, and with an 8” wheel, I’d stick with an offset that’s no more aggressive than ET45. There’s a useful calculator on the ‘Will they fit’ website at the link below. By inputting the spec of your existing and new wheel and tyre set up, it will calculate the impact on clearance of the new wheels compared to your existing ones;

https://www.willtheyfit.com

If you don’t want diamond cut wheels, avoid anything that’s described as ‘machined’ or ‘polished’ as they’re alternative terms for diamond cut.

Other considerations;
    - fitting replacement wheels in considered to be a modification for insurance purposes, so you’d need to inform your insurer, and they may charge you an increased premium.
    - some of the the cheap wheels for sale on eBay may be of questionable quality in terms of finish and structural integrity.
    - I’d always look for wheels that are TUV or JWL certified (or equivalent) as these will have been subjected to stringent safety testing. Some of the cheap replica alloys on eBay may not have been tested to these standards.
If you’re considering used wheels, all the above considerations are equally relevant. Also, I’d recommend asking the seller if the wheels have ever been buckled or cracked and repaired, as they may have been weakened as a result. If you were interested in used diamond cut alloys, bear in mind that as refurbishment of these wheels involves re-cutting the face (so removing a layer of metal from the wheel), there’s a limit to the number of times they can be refurbished - usually a maximum of two times - any more than twice and the structural integrity of the wheel could be compromised.

If you do decide to replace your wheels I wish you good luck with your search. Please update the forum on the outcome of your discussions with Black Circles.



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Re: Parker Alloys issue?
« Reply #29 on: 29 December 2018, 20:18 »
Are they based in Kent? Might be a little too far from West Yorkshire. Any recommendations closer to Huddersfield?
Regarding BC will have to wait until Monday ,if they opened, or 2nd of January  to contact them.

By the way are these alloys: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nMnM6NlK4i9ZxDvZ4z4easkii-NzbQqt
painted or powder coated, might be obvious for some but I'm new to all this
Any websites I can have a look/buy such a wheels for GTI, must be 18 inch, don't want to go over that and have 4 new tyres choice is even easier. If they agree to pay me I might use that money towards new wheels I suppose


Yes, Lepsons are based in Gillingham in Kent. Sorry, I don’t know of any reputable wheel refurbishers in your area, but hopefully someone else on the forum who reads this thread can provide a recommendation. Can’t be 100% sure from the picture, but it looks as if the Audi wheels are powder coated. Not sure a VW centre cap would fit those though, and you’d need to establish what the wheel width and offset are, so any impacts on clearance could be determined.

On the subject of replacement wheels in general, a bit of a brain dump below that’ll hopefully be of use.

There are lots of sellers alloy wheels on the internet. If you’re considering new, then you could try sites such as rimstyle.com, performancealloys.com or wheelbasealloys.com. There will be many others. Some members on vwroc.com have bought 18” VW Pretoria replicas from cmwheels.com and IMO those wheels look good. Forum member Mkgti has a set in gunmetal grey on his Tornado Red GTI - pictures in this thread (first post on page 1);

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=284340.msg2597909#msg2597909

For the mk7/mk7.5 Golf, wheels need to have a PCD (bolt pattern) of 5x112 and ideally a centre bore of 57.1. The centre bore can be larger as spigot rings can be fitted to the centre of the wheel to reduce the centre bore size to 57.1, ensuring the correct fit on the car’s hubs. If you’re buying new from a reputable on line retailer, they should supply a fitting kit with the wheels they sell to ensure they fit your car correctly. They should also ensure that the wheel load capabilities of any wheels for your car will comfortably support the weight of your car - the axle load of your car must be less than or equal to the load capability of any wheels you fit, otherwise you will be breaking the law and you’ll probably invalidate your insurance.

You also need to consider the offset (ET) and width of any replacement wheels to ensure you don’t experience any fouling from the inner face with the suspension or rubbing of the tyres against the wheel arch with the outer face. Pretty certain your current ‘Parker’ wheels are 7.5Jx18 ET51. If I was considering new wheels for a Golf GTI I wouldn’t go any wider than 8”, and with an 8” wheel, I’d stick with an offset that’s no more aggressive than ET45. There’s a useful calculator on the ‘Will they fit’ website at the link below. By inputting the spec of your existing and new wheel and tyre set up, it will calculate the impact on clearance of the new wheels compared to your existing ones;

https://www.willtheyfit.com

If you don’t want diamond cut wheels, avoid anything that’s described as ‘machined’ or ‘polished’ as they’re alternative terms for diamond cut.

Other considerations;
    - fitting replacement wheels in considered to be a modification for insurance purposes, so you’d need to inform your insurer, and they may charge you an increased premium.
    - some of the the cheap wheels for sale on eBay may be of questionable quality in terms of finish and structural integrity.
    - I’d always look for wheels that are TUV or JWL certified (or equivalent) as these will have been subjected to stringent safety testing. Some of the cheap replica alloys on eBay may not have been tested to these standards.
If you’re considering used wheels, all the above considerations are equally relevant. Also, I’d recommend asking the seller if the wheels have ever been buckled or cracked and repaired, as they may have been weakened as a result. If you were interested in used diamond cut alloys, bear in mind that as refurbishment of these wheels involves re-cutting the face (so removing a layer of metal from the wheel), there’s a limit to the number of times they can be refurbished - usually a maximum of two times - any more than twice and the structural integrity of the wheel could be compromised.

If you do decide to replace your wheels I wish you good luck with your search. Please update the forum on the outcome of your discussions with Black Circles.

Thanks for all this, lots of good info there so thank you very much  :smiley: . I will update when I know some more.