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Offline paradisiac82

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Bought my first mk4 golf
« on: 23 March 2016, 19:14 »
Ok so bought a PD150. Engine sounded ok. Starting first time takes a few attempts and it cuts out on hills sometimes, which the previous owner thinks is possibly injector seals or a fuel issue. does this sound right or are there any other suggestions? its been de-catted and pulls well so turbo is good, just on hills its like its just stalled, if you catch it you can get it back like saving from a stall, if not then turn it off, wait a second or 2 then it starts again as normal but you can keep it going dipping the clutch and getting revs back, doesnt happen all the time usually after its been driven for 10mins or so. seats were in very good condition. both wings will need replacing from scrappy at some point as they are rusted but everything else looked ok.

Ok so its been looked over by the garage at work here is the state of play.

- Compression Test Shows:
Cylinder 1 = 380
Cylinder 2 = 450
Cylinder 3 = 450
Cylinder 4 = 450

- 3 Glow Plugs were not heating up.

- Diagnostic tool and got errors p17564 & p17569, Map Sensor (Thrust Sensor) & Temperature Sensor.

- Fuel/Air Leak from fuel filter.

Not sure if any of this will help with suggestions to possible causes of the issue on hills. Will order glow plugs and sort the fuel/air leak and hope its that but trying to plan in case it is not.


Thanks in advance.

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Re: Bought my first mk4 golf
« Reply #1 on: 23 March 2016, 19:35 »
In tank pump pick up got partially clogged so when the cars going up hill it cant pick the fuel up through the strainer. Thats all i can thing of. Ijector seals id say it would do it all the time and would be smoking where its sucking a little oil into the combustion chamber.

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Re: Bought my first mk4 golf
« Reply #2 on: 23 March 2016, 22:26 »
thank you will check that too :)

do you know what the correct size glow plug should be? i have looked online and they seem to vary. I know the spanner size is 10mm but the probe length seems to give options for 25mm, 29mm, and 30mm and im pretty sure mine measured 32mm or 35mm. 25mm seems to be the most common but like I said places are listing all these sizes for the ARL engine.

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Re: Bought my first mk4 golf
« Reply #3 on: 23 March 2016, 22:45 »
Wouldnt know of hand sorry, normally if i ring for.parts.and theres a choice, suppliers i use go to the main dealer sites to find out.
It also will depend if it measured.overal size or just the end of the glow plug size.

I can try pull one out my pd130 tommorow and measure it. See what that is. Might make more sence then

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Re: Bought my first mk4 golf
« Reply #4 on: 26 March 2016, 19:59 »
Right car all back together, MAP sensor, Temp Sensor, Front Pads/Discs, Fuel Filter, Glow Plugs & Drop Link all replaced, had brother in law look at it (his garage specialises in VW among others) and upon starting the engine his instant reaction was 'oh shoot, you bought a bad one'. As you can imagine my heart sunk, especially after spending a little bit on parts, his gut instinct is cams on their way out, which for 179k is very plausible. Obviously not a disastrous problem, but not sure work will do that one without charging labor as its not a straight forward job like the other bits. He reset the fault codes and none came back so thats a bonus, still not taken it out for a drive as the cam issue scares me a bit as he said it could last 10, 1k, 10k or even 100k (although doubtful) before it goes. On Tues I will ask if they will take the rocker cover off and look at the cams as we didnt have time today, if they are gone then will have to decide what to do, sell and recover my costs or do the cam (money permitting). I know you get what you pay for, but obvs on a budget, are the chilled cast ones on eBay safe to use? My brother in law said they only fit parts supplied VW so he wasnt going to comment on the cheaper ones.

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Re: Bought my first mk4 golf
« Reply #5 on: 26 March 2016, 20:09 »
Darkside development do a hardened cam cheaper than. Vw sell a new ine for. Keep waiting for my passat to eat through the cam. You need to do the rocker arms and followers as well. As a rule.

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Re: Bought my first mk4 golf
« Reply #6 on: 26 March 2016, 20:28 »
oh more parts, price building up now :(

not sure if we can post links so wont, but does this have everything I need?
'CAMSHAFT WITH 8 X HYDRAULIC LIFTERS (BLACK HARDENED TYPE) AND CAM SHELL BEARINGS' not sure what the followers and rocker arms are.
Also is the chilled cast cam ok or does it have to be steel?
« Last Edit: 26 March 2016, 20:58 by paradisiac82 »

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Re: Bought my first mk4 golf
« Reply #7 on: 26 March 2016, 21:18 »
Rockers are me getting words mixed up. Everything in that kit but the injector arms are needed.
Umm cam wise dont know, but steel id think would be better

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Re: Bought my first mk4 golf
« Reply #8 on: 26 March 2016, 21:44 »
Rockers are me getting words mixed up. Everything in that kit but the injector arms are needed.
Umm cam wise dont know, but steel id think would be better

so everything in that kit plus injector arms?

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Re: Bought my first mk4 golf
« Reply #9 on: 27 March 2016, 08:59 »
It looks like it mate. You might want to get your brother inlaw to check the arms but as a rule if the cams wearing then the rest of it is aswell.
We always change the arms if the cam lobes where the arm sits is worn.