Author Topic: Timing Chain tensioner Failure List (timing issue)- Please Update with Your Info  (Read 265835 times)

Offline ramrod

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Hey all,

I'm gutted that I didn't read this thread earlier, but my 2010 Gti @ 75k has just had suffered the same fate. I had the tensioner, chain, guides etc changed hoping it would be no damage. No compression on any cylinder, now the head needs to come off and inspect whats happened. Still in disbelief  :sad:

damn bro, i feel your pain! was there any chain noise or did you check the  chain reading in obd prior to this happening??

whats your next move? have you tried VW-UK? i gave up trying to get anything out of my local VW dealerships, they just wern't interested in anything other than getting me booked in and giving them permission to carry out the work

new engine from midland vw is £2,500
« Last Edit: 16 August 2020, 06:44 by ramrod »
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Offline Jontadek92

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I heard the chain noise once, then it didn’t start after that. My mechanic is going to change the 8 valves and rockers and hope that does it.
Fingers crossed
I tried VW UK and trading standards and got nowhere  :sad:

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there was a massive payout to usa mk6 owners due to this very same issue via VW of America from what i have researched
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Offline drokkeh

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Does anyone know how to check for chain stretch in OBD 11?

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Does anyone know how to check for chain stretch in OBD 11?

Go to live data block 93 and you will get the chain readings but nothing beats a visual inspection imo but you will have a rough idea from the readings if you need to be concerned.

I’ve been in touch with vw uk, got a case number and the car is booked in for a chain and tensioner check on 30th .... kind of hoping I have the original chain and tensioner and they find metal in the oil  :whistle wouldn’t mind a new engine  :grin:
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Offline Snoopy

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Useful link if it fails and you want to know how to fix it

https://youtu.be/hRAcxGdkcZU
Credit to the Humble Mechanic Charles.
Current Stable:  Mk6 GTI, Mk1 GTI, Mk1 Leon & 3 British Classics.
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I tried VW UK and trading standards and got nowhere  :sad:

the original chain and tensioner should have been changed under the original warranty multiple times as the chain was revised 4 times and the tensioner 3 times before they got it right and all cars rolling off the production line in 2013 had the revised parts fitted..it seems VW decided not to recall the 50,000 odd cars affected and now a few years down the line are fobbing people off, dont take no for an answer, its a non serviceable part meant to the last the lifetime of the vehicle!

get a case number from here: executive.office@volkswagen.co.uk
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Useful link if it fails and you want to know how to fix it

https://youtu.be/hRAcxGdkcZU
Credit to the Humble Mechanic Charles.

great video but i do not meet the minimum skill level to do it myself :cry:
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Offline Hazimaro

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Hi guys, just wanted to share my experience getting the following done as preventative maintenance:

Timing Chain
Timing Chain Tensioner
Timing Chain Cover
Timing Chain Guides/Rails
Balance Shaft Timing Chain
Balance Shaft Guides/Rails
Oil Pump Chain
Oil Pump Tensioner
Oil Pickup Pipe
Oil Pickup Pipe Seal
Crankshaft Oil Seal
Crankshaft Bolt
Gasket x2
Sealant
Sump Bung Washer
Oil Filter
5W40 Platinum Engine Oil (4.5u)

Took it to James at VDS Performance for £950, all OEM revised parts and done in 3 days. Other places were trying to charge me £1100 for the same replacement parts and just the tensioner and timing chain.

All my components inside were stock, I did some live data on my OBD11 and saw that my chain stretch was at -3.85° when engine was 90° warm. Decided to get it done to save the headache, when I brought it in he said that the reading I had was correct and on the day he got round to changing everything it had hit the -4.00° mark. James came highly recommended from another MK6 forum.

Very pleased with using him and his price was more than reasonable. He also had a look at my fuel pump which was giving me a bit of an extended crank.

Very interested in this, I’ve checked and the garage isn’t to far off. Was this including parts?
« Last Edit: 28 November 2020, 14:39 by Hazimaro »