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Offline jamie1989

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Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« on: 04 July 2012, 13:16 »
At the moment I have for my AGU

-K03s (not fitted yet)
-Silicone TIP
-5 piece Boost pipes
-catch can
-side mount intercooler
-forge recirculating valvle yellow spring
-brand new maf
-3inch turbo back exhuast with decat
-standard injectors

The car is running really healthy at the moment on stage 1 remap by R-tech running 195bhp and 212lbs of torque.

With the K03s fitted I would expect to gain around 225-230bhp with around 240-245lbs of torque once remapped again?

My question is if I now buy these

-Forge actuator yellow spring
-Yellow calibra injectors
-vr6 maf
-Uprated sidemount intercooler

Would 245bhp and around 270lbs of torque would it be asking too much or would I need a decent THS front mount intercooler to achieve the above?

I know its talked about alot im just wondering does anyone have any experience with the uprated side intercoolers but thought they were not upto the job and went all out to buy the ths one. If the uprated side mount intercooler is upto the job then id rather spend a few hundred quid else where.
« Last Edit: 04 July 2012, 16:41 by jamie1989 »
1.6-1.8t AGU K03s, Forge actuator, Forge 007p, turbo back exhuast, Ths front mount, Catch can, 5 piece silicone boost pipes and creation sports tip. Stage 2 atm 232bhp 270lbs. Waiting for custom mapping :-)

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Re: Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« Reply #1 on: 04 July 2012, 15:31 »
Ask Dalo harkin he gonna have all this lot on soon  :wink:


2000 GTI 1.8t ARZ, S2000 filter, DSG intake, Forge 007 dv, Catch can, R-tech custom remap, 3" Supersize Silicone TIP, Powerflex dog bone, 'The Beast' FMIC, Ultimate delete, LCR fuel pump, 3" Turbo back, K03 hybrid, Ported Manifold, S3 injectors, 80mm maf = 280bhp 270lbft :evil:

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Re: Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« Reply #2 on: 04 July 2012, 16:55 »
IMO if you were to bother with all that you would be wasting your time and money not buying a FMIC.

If you were to just switch to the ko3s i could understand not getting a new intercooler but to go down the MAF and injectors route why miss out the part which will help maintain the torque and hp when getting it mapped again.

On a few runs ont he dyno i would expect you to have great bhp on the first run then for it to drop throughout the rest of the session without a FMIC so choice is yours... I wouldnt be spending out on another map without the FMIC.

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Re: Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« Reply #3 on: 04 July 2012, 17:00 »
Which is my point but I need to know if the uprated side mount intercooler does a similar job to the fmic, As its alot bigger than the standard side mount intercooler.

£500 is alot of money if the gains are very minimal which is reason I want a comparison of both with the same mods.
1.6-1.8t AGU K03s, Forge actuator, Forge 007p, turbo back exhuast, Ths front mount, Catch can, 5 piece silicone boost pipes and creation sports tip. Stage 2 atm 232bhp 270lbs. Waiting for custom mapping :-)

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Re: Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« Reply #4 on: 04 July 2012, 17:43 »
I got 225bhp on my uprated side mount BUT it was suffering from heatsoak on the rollers which is why I moved to the FMIC


1999 1.8T: R-Tech remap - 225bhp/256lb/ft : K03s : THS FMIC : THS PCR pipe : 2.5" stainless exhaust : THS FR3 Engine mounts : G60/VR6 clutch : Calibra Yellow injectors : VR6 MAF : Devils Own WMI : Forge 007p : Carbonio CAI : Leon Cupra R Brembos : FK AK Street coilovers : Votex skirts : Anniversary front : click ---> http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=92175

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Re: Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« Reply #5 on: 04 July 2012, 17:47 »
Which is my point but I need to know if the uprated side mount intercooler does a similar job to the fmic, As its alot bigger than the standard side mount intercooler.

£500 is alot of money if the gains are very minimal which is reason I want a comparison of both with the same mods.

It doesnt matter how bigger SMIC you've got, the problem that still lies is the lack of cooling you can get to it  :smiley:

A FMIC is the way to go OR & W.M.I :cool:

I think youd be lucky to get 225bhp with a side mount  :lipsrsealed:

Check my sig and spec to give you a rough indication Regards to spec and output  :smiley:
« Last Edit: 04 July 2012, 17:49 by Chris#101 »


          2003 1.8T: R-tech Live Cutom Stage 2 remap: N249 Bypass : Forge T.I.P : Forge 007p  : Forge Actuator, yellow spring : Toyosports F.M.I.C : Toyosports C.A.I :                                                                   PCV simplified - oil catch can : 42' Draft 3" turbo back non res exhaust system : Devils own W.M.I : 231bhp & 258lbs-ft

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Re: Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« Reply #6 on: 04 July 2012, 17:48 »
I was lucky then  :laugh:

My standard injectors are on the limit now though


1999 1.8T: R-Tech remap - 225bhp/256lb/ft : K03s : THS FMIC : THS PCR pipe : 2.5" stainless exhaust : THS FR3 Engine mounts : G60/VR6 clutch : Calibra Yellow injectors : VR6 MAF : Devils Own WMI : Forge 007p : Carbonio CAI : Leon Cupra R Brembos : FK AK Street coilovers : Votex skirts : Anniversary front : click ---> http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=92175

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Re: Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« Reply #7 on: 04 July 2012, 17:55 »
all about ko4!  :laugh:

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Re: Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« Reply #8 on: 04 July 2012, 18:00 »
all about ko4!  :laugh:

if you aint got a lsd then its money wasted tbh.

230-50bhp 250lbft is perfect for a 2wd car without spunking money up the wall.

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Re: Realistic thoughts about AGU stage 2
« Reply #9 on: 04 July 2012, 18:01 »
 :laugh:

na its not that bad!

lsd would help alot tho!!

then more powerrrr! :lipsrsealed:

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