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Offline sambo

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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #30 on: 02 March 2009, 21:55 »
CTR is less refined, and as said has low torque, so need to have the tits ragged off it to go anywhere fast and also a driver who knows how to use it properly! (key point)


very good point  :wink:

even in standard form in the right gear a CTR was no match for my derv - he had to drop a couple of cogs to pass me  :grin: :grin:




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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #31 on: 02 March 2009, 22:08 »
Completly differant cars. For a start a standard CTR is 200bhp VS standard golf 150/180BHP so without a remap, your gonna lose!

1.8t is far more tunable though (forced induction for a start) so the potential is there and with a remap the golf had the edge IME.

CTR chassis was designed to go round corners, golf was designed to sit on the autobahn i think! 

CTR is less refined, and as said has low torque, so need to have the tits ragged off it to go anywhere fast and also a driver who knows how to use it properly! (key point)

Personally i like the golf for the comfort, ease of driving (be it fast or slow) and near instant power at any speed in any gear.

If you just want to bomb around with a burberry baseball cap on, the CTR makes a good choice!  :grin:

Unbiased, Sam  :tongue:


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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #32 on: 02 March 2009, 22:10 »
bro in law has a ctr standard and without even proving it i have told him its alot quicker then our mk4 in a straight line off the lights and even once rolling,

i still doubt once i get the r-tec stage 1 that i will be able to keep up


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I can't wait to come accross one now!!! :evil:
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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #33 on: 02 March 2009, 22:11 »
o rite then the civic all the way then


Only if keeping either car standard. ;)
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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #34 on: 02 March 2009, 22:22 »
Ooh V-Tec...  :tongue: Had a ride in a dc2 'teg the other night, get it on cam and it woops my mates skyline, my 4mo barge has little chance, and the noise when that vtec kicks in made me want one.

And civics dont eat coil packs :lipsrsealed:

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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #35 on: 02 March 2009, 22:24 »
No but front tyres instead, i've heard of lots of CTR owners moaning at what little milage they get out of tyres!
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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #36 on: 02 March 2009, 22:27 »
And civics dont eat coil packs :lipsrsealed:


That's only because you've got the wrong 1.8 T Mk4!! :P :D
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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #37 on: 02 March 2009, 22:47 »
And civics dont eat coil packs :lipsrsealed:


That's only because you've got the wrong 1.8 T Mk4!! :P :D

Indeed my AGU is still running the same coil packs and MAF when i got it 5 years ago - 70000 miles later still going strong  :grin:  :evil:

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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #38 on: 02 March 2009, 23:10 »
Me, too!!  AGU FTW!! :D


Although the MAF could be playing up.  :undecided:
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Re: Mk4 1.8t VS Civic Type R
« Reply #39 on: 02 March 2009, 23:13 »
Civic all the way, owned 2 one modified a lot but not that you be able to see  :smiley:, also had the Integra DC5 , Mitsubishi FTO, Leon CupraR to name a few others. I would pick the Honda's over any other make i have had. Build quality is excellent, and performance out of the box is far superior. You have to chip the Golf to get it in the same area as the CIvic, if you drop a supercharger in th eCivic you have something that will all but keep up with an M3.

Golfs are nice but, how can i put this without being flamed. They are comfy :wink:
The CTR is crisp and sharp. Oh and the seats are FAR!!!!! better than the golf recaro's. Also the gearbox is one of the best gearbox's you'll have th epleasure of using.

I like and enjoy my Golf, i love Honda's and VTEC, sorry  :smiley:
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