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Offline sean_1991

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140 or 170 remapping??
« on: 05 January 2016, 15:00 »
Hello, I'm new to this forum so I apologise in advance. I'm looking to buy my first golf mk5 but I'm struggling to pick either the 140 or 170. Ino the 140 has a more solid engin and the 170 has power but would apriacate so e advice from owners who have had this decision. I'm wanting 200 bhp but I'm also wanting about 60 mpg ish as I use the car daily and need good fuel return. Please help  :smiley:

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Re: 140 or 170 remapping??
« Reply #1 on: 05 January 2016, 21:04 »
Hello, I'm new to this forum so I apologise in advance. I'm looking to buy my first golf mk5 but I'm struggling to pick either the 140 or 170. Ino the 140 has a more solid engin and the 170 has power but would apriacate so e advice from owners who have had this decision. I'm wanting 200 bhp but I'm also wanting about 60 mpg ish as I use the car daily and need good fuel return. Please help  :smiley:

You'll get 200BHP from just a remap from a 170. You'll need a few other modifications to take the 140 to 200BHP.

I've owned a 170 A4 (Essentially the same engine) with a hybrid turbo, whilst I loved it; if I was to do it again I'd go for a 140. Much more of a solid engine from the start.

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Re: 140 or 170 remapping??
« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2016, 10:29 »
thanks for the info, would i get more mpg from a mapped 140 or 170 if i just wanted fuel economy.  ino hybrids play a big part and are good for fuel, im doing 40 ish miles a day on A roads so need good mpg (but wouldnt mind the power). im going to have a look at a mk5 140 gt tdi 119,000 new turbo just put on so just going to give it a go to see what its like.

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Re: 140 or 170 remapping??
« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2016, 14:20 »
140 gives better MPG

Depends what you really want from the car

On a run my 170 will crack 50mpg; around town expect high 30's, early 40's

I went from a remapped MK4 130tdi so I couldn't go backwards in power  :grin:

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Re: 140 or 170 remapping??
« Reply #4 on: 17 January 2016, 21:21 »
I went to look at a golf and ended up talking about the salemans seat Leon 170 tdi that he had, I told him I was wanting at least 180 to 200bhp he said get a hybrid turbo or send your turbo unit to aet turbos then they'll stick the spool of a hybrid 240bhp spool in your turbo for only £400 and you'll still get atleast 60mpg is any of this true? If so what would a standard 140 clutch be safe until as well as injectors?

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Re: 140 or 170 remapping??
« Reply #5 on: 17 January 2016, 21:36 »
Kaboom lol

Clutch will be toast and your injectors way past their efficiency if you are looking anywhere over 220bhp

A 140 on with a map alone will make a solid 175bhp+ / 300lbs ft torquw providing the turbo is in good condition. That will be clutch friendly  :smiley:

If you want over 200bhp without major hassle then buy a 170, gut the DPF and map it

My A3 runs 205bhp / 320lbs ft torque in that configuration and is on the original clutch after 65,000 mapped miles

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Re: 140 or 170 remapping??
« Reply #6 on: 17 January 2016, 21:55 »
140 it is then lol :grin: I asked Hume what his car was like and he said his car was matte black seat Leon in fast car magazine running 220bhp a while ago, tried searching but I've had no look. I'm doing a lot of committing to my gf and back and covering around 40 ish miles a day. So tbh mpg means more than bhp and 170 alone would do me fine👍. What's the best air filter, exhaust etc to run as I'm wanting the r32 rear end.

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Re: 140 or 170 remapping??
« Reply #7 on: 10 April 2016, 15:59 »
I've decided I'm getting the 140 gt tdi, but I'm wanting 230bhp I've been told to get stage 2 hybrid turbo, remap, s3 intercooler, hard piping, egr delete/ blank, decat exhaust system and induction kit? Is this true? Or am I being very optimistic??