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Title: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 12 April 2013, 14:40
Has anyone who has ordered a GTI got a build week yet?  Thanks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 April 2013, 15:00
Not a confirmed build week, no.  Was told it could be 3 - 4 weeks before I hear anything concrete like that.  Starting to get impatient already, might have to buy a used Mk6 in the meantime just to ease the pain! Haha! ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 12 April 2013, 15:30
I placed an order just over two weeks ago but have yet to receive a build date. Phoned the dealer up yesterday to check, but all he could confirm was that the order was being "processed" & he would let me know as soon as he gets any further information.

It's being touted on here that it could be weeks 22/23 but I have yet to receive official confirmation on my order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 12 April 2013, 15:31
When's 23/24?

Standard cars should arrive sooner I hope..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 12 April 2013, 15:41
Not sure if people are aware, but you can put your order number into here and it will let you know as it gets to key stages:

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order

A dealer may be able to give more detail once it is being built, but not a lot you can do really other than sit back and wait!  Weighing a pig doesn't make it any fatter, but we all keep weighing our pigs!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 12 April 2013, 16:09
Also being processed :sad:  checking daily with order number as suggested
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 12 April 2013, 17:53
Dealer told me that it will some time before we hear anything back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 April 2013, 13:31
Previous history has told me that I usually get to hear about a build week 3 to 4 weeks after ordering and that build week is usually 6-7 weeks after. Don't know currently whether VW are overly busy or not compared to last time I ordered.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chriscav on 13 April 2013, 15:42
Hi there,

New member and soon to be new gti owner!
Ordered this morning and can't wait. 
Owned a polo gti 1.4 tsi before my current car so had a taster of the gti but I can imagine it pales in comparison to the golf.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 13 April 2013, 15:44
Anyone having trouble with the VW order tracking? My order number was showing up nicely last night but today it doesn't recognise the number :-s Bit concerned!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 13 April 2013, 15:58
Anyone having trouble with the VW order tracking? My order number was showing up nicely last night but today it doesn't recognise the number :-s Bit concerned!


Not working for me either at the moment, lets be honest though, VW are being a bit crap with anything internet based just lately! I wouldn't worry.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 13 April 2013, 16:12
Same here, local retailer told me there were some technical issues, and to not worry, orders have not been cancelled or anything drastic!

Hi there,

New member and soon to be new gti owner!
Ordered this morning and can't wait. 
Owned a polo gti 1.4 tsi before my current car so had a taster of the gti but I can imagine it pales in comparison to the golf.

Congrats, and welcome!  Be sure to update the spec thread that's stickied at the top of the forum here if you haven't already :)  Having driven the car you mention, and currently owning a MkV Golf GTI, I think you will be more than happy with your decision!

By the way, the colour multifunction computer is standard kit now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 15 April 2013, 19:46
Strange how this article says first deliveries Aug 5th...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/04/cars/volkswagen/golf-gtd/the-new-vw-golf-gtd-is-available-to-order-now

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 15 April 2013, 19:55
Anyone had any luck with the order tracking yet? Still not recognising mine  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 April 2013, 20:44
Strange how this article says first deliveries Aug 5th...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/04/cars/volkswagen/golf-gtd/the-new-vw-golf-gtd-is-available-to-order-now

I would be more inclined to believe the VW UK website than an autotrader article. According to teh GTD/GTI sub pages for configurator etc it says available to order now, ready for June.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 15 April 2013, 21:04
Strange how this article says first deliveries Aug 5th...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/articles/2013/04/cars/volkswagen/golf-gtd/the-new-vw-golf-gtd-is-available-to-order-now

I would be more inclined to believe the VW UK website than an autotrader article. According to teh GTD/GTI sub pages for configurator etc it says available to order now, ready for June.

With all the faff we've been having with the VW website I would be very wary of anything on there!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 09:23
For those who have order numbers, how long did it take after ordering for you to get one?  I ordered 2 weeks ago and no order number from my dealer as yet.  Do you chaps have a build date yet either?  My dealer said that VW won't start building until the end of May (week 22??)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 16 April 2013, 10:15
Bugger!!! Just had a phone call from the dealer this morning confirming a build date Week 25!! He did say that this date was provisional only and could move either forwards or backwards... Lets hoping its forward rather than backward... So based on this I'm guessing possibly July/August delivery... I was hoping it was June.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 11:11
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 16 April 2013, 11:26
I totally agree. If that really is the case then the whole thing stinks. Customers should definitely take priority over Company. If the cars are selling well anyway, why need "demo" cars???
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 12:09
VW know that we will wait for our cars.  And they want a shiny new GTI & GTD in all of their showrooms.  I can understand this way of thinking as gives a potential buyer something to look at, however getting the cars on the road is the best form of advertising I can think of - there is no substitute for this  - especially as 99% of us who have ordered will be keeping their cars clean and shiny for months!  Stocking demo cars before customer orders is short sighted on their part IMO.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 16 April 2013, 12:32
Not so sure about the demo cars, see this EVO posted from official VW internal message.

VW0401-13

We can now confirm that pricing and specification for GTI and GTD are as in the below price list and that Automatic Distance Control (ADC) is standard on both cars.

We delayed the open for order date by a day to make sure we published the correct prices and specifications. Customer orders will be built from week 22.


Only market entry and function cars will be built before the week 22 (27 May) model year 14 change; these will be built without ADC but with cruise control instead.


It would seem to suggest that demo cars will be around mid to late next month, and first orders I guess
we would see be collected around 24/25?

If your build week is 25, maybe your dealer didn't have allocation?

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 16 April 2013, 13:06
Thanks for that Dave... That's very interesting indeed. Like my dealer said, Week 25 was provisional and was likely to change. I do hope its brought forward.. The annoying thing is, was that I placed my order the day after the order books opened & as far as I'm aware was the first GTi order from that dealership.

It's a poor do if they haven't been given an initial allocation as its the only VW dealer in the whole of Bristol.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 13:10
A word of warning - I was the first to place an order in North Herts in 2009 for the Mk 6 GTI (I believe it was the first week of April 2009) - and I ordered the day the order books opened.  I didn't receive my GTI until the second week of September.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 16 April 2013, 13:18
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 13:23
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 16 April 2013, 13:32
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!


If I see a demo at the dealership before my car, I'm gonna kick up a fuss. I might even cancel my order and wait for the R, it does look awesome! Then again, I probably won't lol.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 13:34
 :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 16 April 2013, 13:38
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!


If I see a demo at the dealership before my car, I'm gonna kick up a fuss. I might even cancel my order and wait for the R, it does look awesome! Then again, I probably won't lol.

You might as well phone them up now and cancel
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 16 April 2013, 16:23
Oh good, one less in the queue then  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 16 April 2013, 16:42
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!


If I see a demo at the dealership before my car, I'm gonna kick up a fuss. I might even cancel my order and wait for the R, it does look awesome! Then again, I probably won't lol.

You might as well phone them up now and cancel

So you're saying that a demo car will definitely be there before mine?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 16:45
If I had to choose, I'd agree with evo1986 - no chance you'll get your car before they get their demo - this is my experience anyway....

*get ready to kick off*  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 16 April 2013, 16:57
If I had to choose, I'd agree with evo1986 - no chance you'll get your car before they get their demo - this is my experience anyway....

*get ready to kick off*  :evil:

Well I would have not minded if he had just told me that plain and simple. I'll visit him tomorrow to see what's what. Thing is, if I get my car 1st week of August or last few days of July, it makes no sense to take it before the new "63" reg.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 16 April 2013, 17:25
When I placed my order I was told by the sales exec to expect the car end may, early June...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 16 April 2013, 17:36
My experience with ordering, is that we know more than most dealers did re prices spec, order dates etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 April 2013, 18:07
My experience with ordering, is that we know more than most dealers did re prices spec, order dates etc.

Totally agree. The dealer I use was actually pretty clued up but I visited a different one & he literally didn't have a clue, I was actually embarrassed for him.

ROO1 - he's telling you porkies, they don't start making them for the general public until the end of May!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 16 April 2013, 18:21
Don't worry! They'll be here sometime this year! :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 16 April 2013, 19:53
My experience with ordering, is that we know more than most dealers did re prices spec, order dates etc.

Totally agree. The dealer I use was actually pretty clued up but I visited a different one & he literally didn't have a clue, I was actually embarrassed for him.

ROO1 - he's telling you porkies, they don't start making them for the general public until the end of May!!

That's ok..I'll get them to compensate me as per normal on every new car I've ordered
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 16 April 2013, 20:03
I'm going to have a stab in the dark and say that this will happen to all of us - clearly weeks 22-24 are being designated for demo cars, actual orders will be after that.  Which I actually think is wrong to be honest - an order is an order and customers should take priority over demo cars IMO.

When I placed my order, I specifically asked my dealer if I would be the first person to have the GTI from his dealership. He said yes. I said, even before the demo cars. He said yes, yours will be before the demo cars, yours will be the first one we get as you are our first order, simple as.

I hope you're right as this is exactly what I was told, and my order is the first this particular VW Group has had - he said it was VW policy with the GTI's to put the customer first ahead of demos - but I don't believe that for a second I'm afraid.  I hope I turn out to be completely wrong though!!


If I see a demo at the dealership before my car, I'm gonna kick up a fuss. I might even cancel my order and wait for the R, it does look awesome! Then again, I probably won't lol.

You might as well phone them up now and cancel

So you're saying that a demo car will definitely be there before mine?

I would put everything I own on showroom and demo cars arriving before any customers orders. Priority has got to be get cars to show rooms for launch event weekends etc then the orders will really pour in and we will probably be in the silly lead time situation we had with Mk6.

Not one of the 3 orders we have taken so far have a scheduled build week
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 18 April 2013, 18:47
Been on the "track my order" bit of the VW website and it still doesn't recognise my order number...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 April 2013, 19:14
Been on the "track my order" bit of the VW website and it still doesn't recognise my order number...

At least you've got an order number!  :angry: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 18 April 2013, 22:25
Been on the "track my order" bit of the VW website and it still doesn't recognise my order number...

At least you've got an order number!  :angry: :rolleyes:
As I understand it (and I might be wrong) an order number is available the day after the order is submitted to VW by the dealer?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 April 2013, 22:34
I'm on the phone first thing tomorrow. If that's the case I'm going to kick off big time as it would imply my order has not been put through  :angry:

Thanks for the tip though!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 18 April 2013, 22:47
Got my order number a couple of weeks ago, a few days after ordering.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 19 April 2013, 01:46
I'm on the phone first thing tomorrow. If that's the case I'm going to kick off big time as it would imply my order has not been put through  :angry:

Thanks for the tip though!

Have you asked for it or are you just waiting for the dealer to call you? I asked for mine.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 19 April 2013, 08:55
I asked for it, he said as soon as he has it he'll contact me.  That was a week ago.  Emailed him on Weds, haven't heard anything back!  :angry:

It's ok, I'll pop in this morning and see him face to face - easier that way (to not get fobbed off!!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 19 April 2013, 10:54
Does sound like he may have sold you a car without having any allocation. :undecided: hope not though, good luck! :afro:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 19 April 2013, 11:45
I had mine written down on my order Form on day of ordering.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 19 April 2013, 12:18
So I went in to see him; still no order number, says he hasn't been given one as yet by VW. He assured me the order has gone in. Not much else I can do really other than wait. I've no reason to not believe what he was saying and he said as soon as he's got it he will pass it over to me.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 19 April 2013, 13:25
I got my order number just after I orderded.

Been told something interesting by dealer though.

All orders in system have now been frozen, until week 20. (This would figure as I can't check on my order number on the tracker now and could before.

After week 20, all orders will be given a new build week, this is because VW UK are fitting ACC as standard.

I questioned this, and they said not ADC but ACC as standard.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 19 April 2013, 14:16
I now have my order number woo hoo! Just had to share that  :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 April 2013, 15:41
My order has been accepted by the factory but no confirmed build week yet.

Still waiting for my order number too  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 April 2013, 15:48
Order has been accepted by the factory, but all GTI orders are apparently on hold and being upgraded to 2014 specifications from week 22.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 April 2013, 15:59
Order has been accepted by the factory, but all GTI orders are apparently on hold and being upgraded to 2014 specifications from week 22.

Heck that means they won't start building them until w/c May 27th. Add on another month for build, shipping, delivery and PDI's and I reckon the first ones on the road will be around the end of June!

What exactly are the 2014 spec upgrades?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 April 2013, 16:00
Mine is processing now and per above I guess it will stay that way until the middle of May when, like the rest of us, it "should" be given a build date of week 22 (which is last week of May??) Don't know about everyone else but that is too far away for my liking!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 April 2013, 16:07

Heck that means they won't start building them until w/c May 27th. Add on another month for build, shipping, delivery and PDI's and I reckon the first ones on the road will be around the end of June!


This is in line with what I've been told. It means demos will be in the dealerships for end of June, then deliveries for cars with standard spec coming mid to end of July, and those orders with factory options coming end of July/mid August.  Nowt any of us can do about this, however when VW say "on sale from June" this is completely misleading & incorrect.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 22 April 2013, 16:21
I was told today that there isnt even a planned build start date for GTD's...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 April 2013, 16:44
Order has been accepted by the factory, but all GTI orders are apparently on hold and being upgraded to 2014 specifications from week 22.

Heck that means they won't start building them until w/c May 27th. Add on another month for build, shipping, delivery and PDI's and I reckon the first ones on the road will be around the end of June!

What exactly are the 2014 spec upgrades?

I don't know what the entire 2014 spec upgrades are, but it includes the heated windscreen option that needs to be ordered along with the new (optional!) advanced telephone prep.  I suspect this is needed to cradle the phone and boost antenna performance.

Apparently the heated windscreen is a clear film laminated between the glass, rather than thin wires like on Fords.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 April 2013, 16:58
I was told today that there isnt even a planned build start date for GTD's...

That's glum news :shocked: Where did you hear that ROO1?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 22 April 2013, 16:58
The phone prep probably has SMS functionality too which would be kinda cool.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 April 2013, 17:08
Yeah I believe it does have SMS functionality, from a previous thread:

Quote
Looks like the advanced phone connection brings wifi connection to the golf (poor google translation of the German website below)

Mobile phone interface "premium"
Content as mobile phone interface "Comfort", plus in addition the external antenna connection is available via a cradle in the center console and in addition:
- Own vehicle GSM-/UMTS-Sende-/Empfangsteil module with SIM card slot
- SMS features: Reading 2), write (available via voice control), reading
- Wi-Fi hotspot
- Additional Bluetooth interface remote SIM access profile (rSAP) 3)
(only in combination with Navigation Function "Discover Media" or navigation system "Discover Pro" to order)

Not sure how genuinely useful it would be to me, but if it's needed to get a heated screen, I'll need to get it.  Thing is, I plan on keeping this car for a good number of years.  At first I wasn't going to bother, but the more I think about it, the more I know I'll regret not getting a heated screen.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 22 April 2013, 17:38
The phone prep probably has SMS functionality too which would be kinda cool.

The normal bluetooth has sms function, just not on the iphone as it doesn't support remote sim access (rsap)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 22 April 2013, 18:30
I was told today that there isnt even a planned build start date for GTD's...

That's glum news :shocked: Where did you hear that ROO1?

Stoke VW
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 23 April 2013, 10:32
So, has anyone actually got a build week yet?  Or even been given an estimate by their dealers?   :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 23 April 2013, 10:48
I've been told by my VW dealer, Isaac Agnew, Belfast that my GTD should be here in July. No build week yet as VW are in the process of changing the car into a 2014 model.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 April 2013, 15:24
I placed my order for a GTI an hour ago.  The dealer estimates "July/August" but my intuition tells me its going to be mid to end August rather than July!

On the plus side if it slips to September then it'll be on the 63 plates.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 23 April 2013, 15:44
I placed my order for a GTI an hour ago.  The dealer estimates "July/August" but my intuition tells me its going to be mid to end August rather than July!

On the plus side if it slips to September then it'll be on the 63 plates.
For once, plate numbers make no odds to me as I just got a private plate for my birthday!  Just hand over the certificate before they register it and I'll pick it up with them already installed.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 23 April 2013, 18:49
Well despite having my order number for a week, it still hasn't appeared on the VW site as being processed.  The track orders go up to 23208600 as being processed, then any number after that is not recognised.  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 23 April 2013, 18:52
Well, it's been a couple of weeks now.  My order number was showing as processing, then it disappeared, then it showed as processing again, and now it has disappeared again!  I now the order is in the system and accepted by the factory because my retailer checked yesterday for me when I called about the heated screen option.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 23 April 2013, 19:35
Still processing! ::)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 23 April 2013, 21:07
Ordered mine on the 8th of April... still 'Processing'.. the dealer said GTI build dates for the first allocation would be assigned this week (fingers crossed) until then I'll just have to keep checking :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 23 April 2013, 21:36
the dealer said GTI build dates for the first allocation would be assigned this week

Funny enough I got a similar message from my dealer last week... Ie "build dates were being assigned this week". I wait with bated breath!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 23 April 2013, 22:25
July is my guess.

I think most of our cars ordered so far will be on the same boat.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 29 April 2013, 20:24
What build week are we on as of today?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 April 2013, 21:16
What build week are we on as of today?

Well, this is week 18 in business terms.  I'm assuming they use the same ISO standard or whatever it is to determine what 'build' week it is.

I really shouldn't be guessing though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 29 April 2013, 21:39
I think I may have pressed the refresh button 10,000 times now  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 April 2013, 22:00
I think I may have pressed the refresh button 10,000 times now  :cry:

 :grin: :grin:not just me then!! I must check it 20 times a day even though I know deep down its probably a month away from updating!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 29 April 2013, 22:32
At least you have an order number to play with.  I've got nothing!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 April 2013, 22:52
At least you have an order number to play with.  I've got nothing!

You've got to chase him in that!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 April 2013, 07:48
What build week are we on as of today?

Well, this is week 18 in business terms.  I'm assuming they use the same ISO standard or whatever it is to determine what 'build' week it is.

I really shouldn't be guessing though.

Last week my dealer told me we were in build week 18 when he rang me for a status update to tell me that there was nothing to report, so this week should be 19, but you know what dealers are like.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 08:00
Week 22 is around the back end of May.  I've been told to ring my dealer to finalise spec changes w/c Monday 27th May.  Until then, nobody is going to hear anything.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 30 April 2013, 08:14
Just had a thought, with the alleged build dates for the GTI and GTD commencing Week 22, and a price increase coming in on May 1st, if we were to decide to add any options to our cars before the build week was finalised, but after May 1st, would that mean the whole car would be re-priced at the May 2013 prices, or just the ordered extras ?

I'm specifically thinking that when the MY14 changes and new options are finally unveiled, there might be a couple of new gadgets we might want, but this could really affect the price. For example, on an average £30k car, the new price increase (as I understand it at 1%), would add £300 automatically to the price, so by adding a £200 option, it might actually cost you £500 !

Anyone have any idea how this works ?

Not that I'm saying I'm going to add any more options of course  :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 08:21
That's a really good point.  When I spoke to a guy at the dealership, it sounded like VW will price honour everything ordered prior to the price increase, but anything added after will be 1% extra.  I think I'll call today to find out.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 30 April 2013, 09:00
This is really useful for working out build weeks:

http://www.epochconverter.com/date-and-time/weeknumbers-by-year.php
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 April 2013, 09:17
This is really useful for working out build weeks:

http://www.epochconverter.com/date-and-time/weeknumbers-by-year.php

Very useful, thanks. My guess is that the earliest any of us will be taking delivery is mid July - at a push.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 April 2013, 09:25
I still think if you ordered early then it will be June.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 30 April 2013, 09:39
I still think if you ordered early then it will be June.

Depends if you've ordered direct through a VW dealer or from an online broker which tends to get passed onto a VW fleet department, like me.

I think my delivery will be more like mid-August or even early September.

I'm bracing myself for September delivery now (after reading all advice and learning a bit more about buying through an online broker (great price... longer deliver).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 10:42
Depends if you've ordered direct through a VW dealer or from an online broker which tends to get passed onto a VW fleet department, like me.

I think my delivery will be more like mid-August or even early September.

I'm bracing myself for September delivery now (after reading all advice and learning a bit more about buying through an online broker (great price... longer deliver).

63 plates though!  I actually wouldn't mind at all if it were September as I'm still saving up to pay for it.  Every month delayed is cash I don't have to borrow, woo!

And Norbreck, you better not add any more options.  They'll be running out of places to fit them on your car!  :drool: hehe
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 10:50
I have a new private plate waiting for it, so I just want the car! lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 30 April 2013, 11:02
Just had a thought, with the alleged build dates for the GTI and GTD commencing Week 22, and a price increase coming in on May 1st, if we were to decide to add any options to our cars before the build week was finalised, but after May 1st, would that mean the whole car would be re-priced at the May 2013 prices, or just the ordered extras ?


When I was looking at my last Golf just before the price increase, I was told by the dealer I would pay the price agreed i.e. the price before the increase. However if I was to add options or change the order in some way after the price increase, the only way for them to do it is to open the whole order which automatically triggers the new price for the car and extras so in effect you pay the new price for everything.

However that might not be such a bad thing as 3 of the options I picked on my recent Audi (paint, heated seats, priv glass) all came down in price with the new price list!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 12:11
I just spoke to my dealer about this, and can confirm what p3asa was told.  Any changes after the price increase will automatically trigger a new price for the entire car and extras.  So, I need to decide whether I'm going pull the trigger on the PP and heated screen/phone prep options in the next hour really!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 April 2013, 12:15
I think you've already made your mind up!? :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 12:19
I think you've already made your mind up!? :evil:

Damn those devils on my shoulders! :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 April 2013, 13:08
I think you've already made your mind up!? :evil:

Damn those devils on my shoulders! :evil:

Mwah ha ha....... :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 13:39
Trigger pulled, head blown off...can't wait!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 30 April 2013, 14:59
Trigger pulled, head blown off...can't wait!  :laugh:

Must be the day for it, same here  :grin:, gonna be a long few months now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 April 2013, 15:02
Gives me time to save up for the inevitable insurance rise! :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 16:08
So presumable a price change is triggered if you want to remove an option as well as if you want to add one.  Guess its too late for me now if I decide I made a mistake with those leather seats.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 16:35
So presumable a price change is triggered if you want to remove an option as well as if you want to add one.  Guess its too late for me now if I decide I made a mistake with those leather seats.  :sad:

Leather huh?  That's DCC and PP pricing...

Unfortunately yes, it cuts both ways, it's a change to the spec.  The only exception to this is the addition of the Heated Front Windscreen if requested before the increase, because it is still not on their systems to add at the moment.  But, VW have called my dealer and said that even though it will have to be added after the price increase, the old pricing will still be honoured.

You'd need to make a decision quick and get the order updated and put through if you want to remove it.

I spoke about delivery estimates, and with the MY14 change, he basically said don't be surprised to get an early-to-mid August delivery.  He said that nobody knows anything at the moment because all GTI orders are in a queue, and no build dates have been assigned yet.  Better to set low expectations and be pleasantly surprised I guess.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 30 April 2013, 20:04
I can't comment on how much truth there is in this... but...

When I ordered mine (08/04) the dealer said they had four allocations for GTI's for June, the first of which I got. That further allocations would be given to them on a 'as and when basis', as of yesterday they said they'd taken orders for seven in total now but don't expect any further orders to be delivered before the end of the year.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 30 April 2013, 20:16
I ordered today and they said by august, if it ends up being that late I'll wait until Sept to register.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 April 2013, 20:23
I can't comment on how much truth there is in this... but...

When I ordered mine (08/04) the dealer said they had four allocations for GTI's for June, the first of which I got. That further allocations would be given to them on a 'as and when basis', as of yesterday they said they'd taken orders for seven in total now but don't expect any further orders to be delivered before the end of the year.

Yeah, my retailer said that they typically get around 8 or 9 GTI allocations per year.  At the time of placing my initial order, I was the first one to order a Mk7.  I got told today that it would be around August, so I'm just going by that in terms of my expectations.  Gives me 4 months to save up insurance as Jimble said, and a cash buffer in bank before the payments start!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 23:29
they said they'd taken orders for seven in total now but don't expect any further orders to be delivered before the end of the year.

Ouch.

I ordered today and they said by august, if it ends up being that late I'll wait until Sept to register.

You can do that?  Won't the dealer do it automatically as soon as the thing arrives their end?  Surely they won't want to wait, they want your MONEY!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 April 2013, 23:37
they said they'd taken orders for seven in total now but don't expect any further orders to be delivered before the end of the year.

Ouch.

I ordered today and they said by august, if it ends up being that late I'll wait until Sept to register.

You can do that?  Won't the dealer do it automatically as soon as the thing arrives their end?  Surely they won't want to wait, they want your MONEY!


If you want to leave it till sept you can just agree with the dealer upfront, mine was ordered as the books opened with the agreement that i'll take it sept 1st, originally it meant it'd be sat in the dealer compound for a couple of months but since i added the PP who knows?? :'(
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 30 April 2013, 23:41
I might well ask my dealer about this then.  I really want it now, but then those 63 plates and some extra cash would be real nice.

EDIT:
On the other hand, if it arrives early August and I know its there how long before I crack and tell them I'm coming to get it? haha
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 30 April 2013, 23:47
I might well ask my dealer about this then.  I really want it now, but then those 63 plates and some extra cash would be real nice.

EDIT:
On the other hand, if it arrives early August and I know its there how long before I crack and tell them I'm coming to get it? haha

That's the problem, I've said if it arrives in AUG then I'm waiting for '63' but if it arrives earlier then I am sat on that tartan as soon as possible.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 01 May 2013, 05:26
Haha, this is one dilemma that I'm happy to say I don't need to worry about!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 01 May 2013, 07:02
When I paid my deposit which was before Easter I said 63 reg please. When I found out they couldn't fax my order off until the tues after the bank hol I said I will take it ASAP (JUne she said). At least then I know I keep my place in the queue and they don't give my car to someone else who wants one earlier. I wonder if this ever happens if an identical car is ordered??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 11:42
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 11:45
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Ouch, hope they're wrong and you get it sooner.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 May 2013, 12:20
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

You're the first person here to get a build date. Were you the first allocated order of your dealership? If so then it would imply that no-one else will get one any earlier. If mine is available June/July i'm having it, if it's available in Aug I would want to hang on for the new plate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 12:40
Just out of interest, what date did you order your GTD?

That is outrageous, I'm afraid your dealer needs a rocket up his a$$ - week 33 is ridiculous, its not a ferrari!!  :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 13:10
I ordered my gtd on 3rd april, a week after orders opened.

All the sales reps were not very familiar with the specs etc and that it was even available to order, so I assume I was one of the first few to order in gti/gtd spec.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 13:28
If you were one of the first to order, I'm staggered by this build week.  Only two explanations therefore - either your dealer wasn't allocated a GTD till then (is it a small dealership as this would make sense, although not having a slot for 10 weeks isn't acceptable and they should have told you this) OR your dealer is a numpty and it should be week 23 not 33.  I cannot believe its week 33, it has to be a mistake given your ordered that early - I'll be very interested to know what comes up on your order tracker.

Thought of a 3rd option - it actually is week 33 and we are witnessing the start of yet another complete f7ck up by VW a la the Mk 6.

 :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 13:37
If you were one of the first to order, I'm staggered by this build week.  Only two explanations therefore - either your dealer wasn't allocated a GTD till then (is it a small dealership as this would make sense, although not having a slot for 10 weeks isn't acceptable and they should have told you this) OR your dealer is a numpty and it should be week 23 not 33.  I cannot believe its week 33, it has to be a mistake given your ordered that early - I'll be very interested to know what comes up on your order tracker.

Thought of a 3rd option - it actually is week 33 and we are witnessing the start of yet another complete f7ck up by VW a la the Mk 6.

 :sad:

Cheers,

Just what I have been thinking too. I wait with baited breath to see what the VW online tracker comes up with.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 01 May 2013, 13:42
Just to add some perspective, and to stop Rick topping himself, when I ordered my Scirocco back in summer 2009, it took over 5 months to arrive!

However, at that time the Scirocco was in short supply and demand was immense.

Needless to say it was a terrible wait :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 13:50
Just to add some perspective, and to stop Rick topping himself, when I ordered my Scirocco back in summer 2009, it took over 5 months to arrive!

However, at that time the Scirocco was in short supply and demand was immense.

Needless to say it was a terrible wait :whistle:

How on earth does that make poor Rick feel any better?

 :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 01 May 2013, 13:54
Firstly its a Bank Holiday in Germany today, so I wouldn't think the factory would update it today, but could be wrong.

Secondly, I thought the GTD launch date was later in the year, GTi June and GTD July or August? Meaning they may not start making GTD's till later?

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 13:59
Firstly its a Bank Holiday in Germany today, so I wouldn't think the factory would update it today, but could be wrong.

Secondly, I thought the GTD launch date was later in the year, GTi June and GTD July or August? Meaning they may not start making GTD's till later?

Dave

I did not know this, I (wrongly) assumed the GTD was also being launched in June.  In that case Rick you will one of the first to get one, happy days!!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 14:12
I am not too overly fussed when it actually arrives to be frank, although having it tomorrow rather than in 6 months would be good. However I should have known this a month ago when I ordered

I may have made the mistake in not actually asking if they had an allocation etc, however if they tell me its going to be an early august delivery at the latest then I expect this to be the case.

Anyway, a couple of different vw dealers have told me that they all work on a 16 week delivery at the most to cover themselves. If they do not meet this vw will provide you with a replacement vehicle in the meantime. Can any of you guys tell me whether this is more bull or not ????
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 01 May 2013, 14:12
Yes, in all the original press releases it said the GTD was coming later than the GTI
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 01 May 2013, 14:15
I am not too overly fussed when it actually arrives to be frank, although having it tomorrow rather than in 6 months would be good. However I should have known this a month ago when I ordered

I may have made the mistake in not actually asking if they had an allocation etc, however if they tell me its going to be an early august delivery at the latest then I expect this to be the case.

Anyway, a couple of different vw dealers have told me that they all work on a 16 week delivery at the most to cover themselves. If they do not meet this vw will provide you with a replacement vehicle in the meantime. Can any of you guys tell me whether this is more bull or not ????
VW were providing cars in the mk6 days
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 May 2013, 14:32
VW were providing cars in the mk6 days

What do you think they'll give you?  An Up!? hehehe.

Actually I kinda like the Up!  I think my wife should have one, but I just blew all our savings on my GTI so she's not getting one anytime soon (I'm so bad).

Would be cool if they gave you a GT for a could of weeks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 01 May 2013, 14:39
I spoke to my dealer yesterday and he told me that the system has me down for Week 35 (end August!). He seems to think that the system will settle down and hopefully it might be Week 23 or something close.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 01 May 2013, 14:45
I am not too overly fussed when it actually arrives to be frank, although having it tomorrow rather than in 6 months would be good. However I should have known this a month ago when I ordered

I may have made the mistake in not actually asking if they had an allocation etc, however if they tell me its going to be an early august delivery at the latest then I expect this to be the case.

Anyway, a couple of different vw dealers have told me that they all work on a 16 week delivery at the most to cover themselves. If they do not meet this vw will provide you with a replacement vehicle in the meantime. Can any of you guys tell me whether this is more bull or not ????
VW were providing cars in the mk6 days

You only get a car 16 weeks from the date the factory accept the order on models that have been in production for more than 12 months.

Because the mk7 has been out for less than 12 months I am certain you wouldn't be given a courtesy car till 20 weeks from the date the order was accepted......

I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 May 2013, 14:51
I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....

Lee, what is your estimate?  If we're talking a probably mid-august delivery or later then I'm gonna ask if I can wait for the 63 plate.  Obviously there will be some variation depending on who ordered when and what allocation the dealer had left, but lets talk 'means' here for those who ordered in the last month or so.  August or you think sooner?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 01 May 2013, 14:51
I am not too overly fussed when it actually arrives to be frank, although having it tomorrow rather than in 6 months would be good. However I should have known this a month ago when I ordered

I may have made the mistake in not actually asking if they had an allocation etc, however if they tell me its going to be an early august delivery at the latest then I expect this to be the case.

Anyway, a couple of different vw dealers have told me that they all work on a 16 week delivery at the most to cover themselves. If they do not meet this vw will provide you with a replacement vehicle in the meantime. Can any of you guys tell me whether this is more bull or not ????
VW were providing cars in the mk6 days

You only get a car 16 weeks from the date the factory accept the order on models that have been in production for more than 12 months.

Because the mk7 has been out for less than 12 months I am certain you wouldn't be given a courtesy car till 20 weeks from the date the order was accepted......

I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....

 :grin: Amen to that!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 01 May 2013, 15:03
Am I the first with a confirmed build date?

I just contacted my dealer and he says my GTI is currently scheduled for production on Week 20, day 5! I really wasn't expecting that, judging from what I read on here.

I'm in Ireland, if that makes any shred of difference...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 01 May 2013, 15:04
I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....

Lee, what is your estimate?  If we're talking a probably mid-august delivery or later then I'm gonna ask if I can wait for the 63 plate.  Obviously there will be some variation depending on who ordered when and what allocation the dealer had left, but lets talk 'means' here for those who ordered in the last month or so.  August or you think sooner?

From the date you placed the order I would expect delivery to be in the region of 4-6 months.

Some will get lucky and get them sooner and trust me some who ordered later than the early ones may get them sooner. Once we get to actually see and drive the car then delivery times will get silly into 6 months+
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 May 2013, 15:06
I love all these dealers almost promising 16 week delivery.........good luck managing customer expectations.....

Lee, what is your estimate?  If we're talking a probably mid-august delivery or later then I'm gonna ask if I can wait for the 63 plate.  Obviously there will be some variation depending on who ordered when and what allocation the dealer had left, but lets talk 'means' here for those who ordered in the last month or so.  August or you think sooner?
From the date you placed the order I would expect delivery to be in the region of 4-6 months.

Wow. :shocked: Ok, good to know.  Guess I won't have to worry about getting the new plates then!
Cheers

EDIT:
Oh bugger, I just realised I'm not gonna get to use the sun roof this summer.  I am, of course, assuming we're getting a summer, which is probably a mistake in itself!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 01 May 2013, 15:14
Am I the first with a confirmed build date?

I just contacted my dealer and he says my GTI is currently scheduled for production on Week 20, day 5! I really wasn't expecting that, judging from what I read on here.

I'm in Ireland, if that makes any shred of difference...

I would worry about your car Joe, day 5 is a Friday and you know what they say about anything built on a Friday!!  :whistle:
I'm just jealous, currently down for week 35 and really hoping that will change  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 01 May 2013, 15:16
Here's the lowdown from the conversation I've just had with my dealer:

They told me my car is in 'V' status, which means it's ordered with factory but not been allocated a build week (bw).

They said the GTI production has been delayed and will now be built at the same time as the GTD on the line (due to unspecified delays with its launch).

Basically all GTI/GTD orders are on hold until bw 22. Many will not show up on the VW tracking site until then, even if the car has been acknowledged by the factory in Germany.

So, many of us will not find out our build weeks until bw 22-23.

What else, they said to expect a 20 week wait from start of order which would put many of us at delivery end of August (bw 35).

So, its exactly like my Scirocco order back in 2009... 5 months from order to build. Sheesh.

That's all I know but I thought I'd share it with you information hungry folks :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 01 May 2013, 15:22
Nice one H-F-O


Well if the cars get too popular there will be a lucrative market in selling your build slot!!!  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 01 May 2013, 15:28
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Could explain why my dealer was so keen for me to sign on the dotted line.. If I had known the wait was going be this long I may looked at other alternatives....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 15:31
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Could explain why my dealer was so keen for me to sign on the dotted line.. If I had known the wait was going be this long I may looked at other alternatives....

I wouldn't worry just yet, these things have a habit of changing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 01 May 2013, 15:32
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Chin up!  Just think how early it will be compared to people making orders now.  We're the lucky ones who will be driving around in our shiny new GTIs while everyone else is still refreshing the order tracker once every minute for another 6 months.

Ok, so I'm clutching at straws... but still, half full?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 01 May 2013, 15:35
Am I the first with a confirmed build date?

I just contacted my dealer and he says my GTI is currently scheduled for production on Week 20, day 5! I really wasn't expecting that, judging from what I read on here.

I'm in Ireland, if that makes any shred of difference...

I would worry about your car Joe, day 5 is a Friday and you know what they say about anything built on a Friday!!  :whistle:
I'm just jealous, currently down for week 35 and really hoping that will change  :rolleyes:

Haha!
I'm a bit skeptical to be honest, judging by everyone's posts on here... how can I have a build week of 20 when everyone here either has no build date at all or something ridiculous like mid August? Surely if they are building my GTI, then there is no hold up on the production line? Different production line for different markets? Hardly...

Having said that, when I ordered my MK6 GTD I also had it within approx 9-10 weeks of ordering... and people on here were waiting twice as long as that if not longer. Maybe VW are slower for some markets, for whatever reason.






Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 15:36
So basically its the same nonsense as the Mk 6 GTI.  I don't think anyone should hold their breath for a delivery day prior to 1st September.  I know some of you will see the benefit in that with the new 63 plate but I certainly don't - as much as I expected this to happen I'm still very disappointed that it will now be September before I get my hands on my car.

(unts  :angry:

(excuse the language!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 15:51
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Chin up!  Just think how early it will be compared to people making orders now.  We're the lucky ones who will be driving around in our shiny new GTIs while everyone else is still refreshing the order tracker once every minute for another 6 months.

Ok, so I'm clutching at straws... but still, half full?

I'll just add that quite often they are not built or delivered in sequence of the date they're ordered. In reality someone could order next week and receive their car before someone who ordered on day 1.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 01 May 2013, 15:53
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Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 01 May 2013, 16:07
Can't believe it..... That's the most depressing news I've heard in ages.... August!!!!! I'm gonna go slit my wrists  :cry:

Chin up!  Just think how early it will be compared to people making orders now.  We're the lucky ones who will be driving around in our shiny new GTIs while everyone else is still refreshing the order tracker once every minute for another 6 months.


Hahaha..... I like your positive outlook Bear!!! Maybe I should take a leaf out of your book, but which ever way you spin it there's no getting away from the fact that we may be looking at 5-6 months before we take delivery of our "Shiny new GTi's !!! Lol.... That's like nearly half a years wait!!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 16:28
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

As a recent newcomer to the forum I would like to apologise to the many on here who will have taken the news I passed on today the wrong way. :cry:

Please do not kick the dog or take it out on her in doors as a result of me. I dont have a dog or a missus so dont have that luxury tonite and dont want to feel guilty. :sad:

Instead I will raid the bottom shelf of my cooler and may even polish my mk6, seen as I am now going to be driving it around another 5 months :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 01 May 2013, 18:28
Spoke to my dealer... said there is an issue with the build system at VW for the GTI and that they have 'parked' the order in a build slot in 'November' <gulp!> until they have rectified the issue  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 May 2013, 18:42
I won't be happy at all if I'm made to wait until September. VW website says order books open for sale in June. if they can't do what they say and deliver by June then I'll be cancelling my order!! VW customer services have said unconfirmed week 22 for a build, 1 week to build, 24 hours shipping etc. was told I'd have my order in June.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 01 May 2013, 18:53
I won't be happy at all if I'm made to wait until September. VW website says order books open for sale in June. if they can't do what they say and deliver by June then I'll be cancelling my order!! VW customer services have said unconfirmed week 22 for a build, 1 week to build, 24 hours shipping etc. was told I'd have my order in June.

From what I have learned today from my dealer and others on here I very much doubt that you will get delivery in June.

Unless of course VW are up to old tricks and don't actually know themselves when they will be built, therefore commencing a merry-go-round of Chinese whispers.

I think for the moment, working to the theory that you will only know for definite when you will get your car, will be when you drive it out of the showroom. :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 01 May 2013, 20:18
Six months?  Pah!  I waited eight months (and one day) for my GTD.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mortimerchris on 01 May 2013, 20:28
Six months?  Pah!  I waited eight months (and one day) for my GTD.

lol - I did 9 months time for my Scirocco,
6 months the first time round to find my options hadn't been added,
Then 3 months as per my original order.
Still managed a c class paid for by the garage the last 3 months.

Looks like a GTI for Christmas at this rate
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 01 May 2013, 21:32
This is getting "more" depressing by the minute... :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 01 May 2013, 21:42
This is getting "more" depressing by the minute... :cry:

Agreed  :angry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 01 May 2013, 21:44
I'm setting my expectations for August, and more than happy to wait in all honesty as I can save more towards it.  The closer it is to winter, the sooner I'll be able to use my heated seats and heated windscreen  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 01 May 2013, 21:55
I don't mind a delay either. It means I can drive my current Scirocco for a little while longer knowing my trade in value is fixed...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 01 May 2013, 22:01
Exactly, there is nothing bad about being forced to wait, other than just waiting!  Well, unless your current car is nicked or written off, in which case a trade could be tough!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mortimerchris on 02 May 2013, 12:07
Exactly, there is nothing bad about being forced to wait, other than just waiting!  Well, unless your current car is nicked or written off, in which case a trade could be tough!  :grin:

Or if your contract hire car goes back in JUNE wit no extension option!
bus/train w**ker I will be!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 02 May 2013, 13:51
Or if your contract hire car goes back in JUNE wit no extension option!
bus/train w**ker I will be!

Aye, that's a bit of an awkward one huh?!  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 02 May 2013, 19:26
Six months?  Pah!  I waited eight months (and one day) for my GTD.

lol - I did 9 months time for my Scirocco,
6 months the first time round to find my options hadn't been added,
Then 3 months as per my original order.
Still managed a c class paid for by the garage the last 3 months.

Looks like a GTI for Christmas at this rate

I ordered my GTD on 28/02/2010.  I would call the dealer up every couple of weeks for an update.  One day I phoned and they couldn't give an update, and my usual salesman was unavailable.  VW had no idea either.  After a couple of weeks of much faffing about, it transpired that VW had lost the order from its computer systems (apparently it happens from time to time) and the dealer ended up having to re-order the car.  On 29/10/2010, I finally took delivery.  For the last two months, I had a dealer-provided Polo; the dealer principal (who was heavily involved at that point) said that they'd be compensated by VW for their screw-up (loss of P/X value - fortunately for me, the value was fixed when I placed the order).

It's not terribly reassuring, three years later, to find that VW are still a shambles.  The configurator on the web site and the brochures don't match, and the brochure is full of meaningless marketing mumbo jumbo.  They have no idea when people's cars are being built and the dealers have no idea whether option X is compatible with option Y.  Their only saving grace is their cars - I'm not planning on changing for another couple of years, but when I do, the only candidate is another GTD.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chriscav on 02 May 2013, 19:34
I ordered about 2 weeks ago and have been tokd week 35 for build week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 02 May 2013, 19:54
I know mines a GTD (not a GTI), but I ordered 2 weeks ago, and on the "track your order" bit of the VW website, my order number is still showing as " sorry, your order number not recognised" (despite the dealer saying everything's still on track). However, the wife's Polo Blue GT I ordered on the same date, had an "order processing" with 4 days, and for the last week and a bit is showing as "build week confirmed" ?

Should I be concerned for my car ? Anyone here with a GTD on order at least got an "order processing" from the site ?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 May 2013, 20:04
I've had order processing and then it's gone. phone the salesman and get him/her to find our from VW uk
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 02 May 2013, 20:05
Unfortunately, I expect VW aren't the only culprits! I've had similar experiences with other marques.

On almost all occasions, I've known more about the car, options, lead times & technical stuff than the dealer itself.  At the end of the day 'most' of the sales guys are just "SALES" guys (& girls) who have no interest in the product they're selling whatsoever... Just interested in meeting their monthly targets.  It's just a job to them at the end of the day & they would be just as happy selling fitted kitchens.

It's the sad fact of life.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 02 May 2013, 21:06
I think that might be true in some cases, but I wouldn't say it's true of all Salesmen. That will depend on the individual and the company they work for. Ever since the order for my GTI, that had a June delivery date (initially), I've been kept informed of every conversation and update from VW regarding it's build.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 May 2013, 21:18
I think that might be true in some cases, but I wouldn't say it's true of all Salesmen. That will depend on the individual and the company they work for. Ever since the order for my GTI, that had a June delivery date (initially), I've been kept informed of every conversation and update from VW regarding it's build.

Your good experience not withstanding I think there is a point to be made here.  These guys (gals) are trying to shift volume, and that means they have to sell Polos and Golfs, not GTIs.  So think about it, when the GTI isn't even being sold yet are they rushing to find out and know all the possible details about it like we are?  Why would they?  Their effort is going into their bread and butter work.  They don't even need to push the GTI it sells itself and their slots are going to be taken well before they can "sell" a car to someone who wonders into the showroom and isn't sure exactly what model they want.  And any way they'll make the most if they can get such a person to buy something off their forecourt not order some high spec machine and then bargain down the price like we all want to do.

I'm just saying its not surprising we all know more than them and their system is a bit of a mess.  Thats no excuse though, the information should be there for them to get when we ask questions, even if they haven't learnt it by wrote the second it became available.  I think this is more a VW or VW UK issue than a dealer issue.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 02 May 2013, 21:24
I think that might be true in some cases, but I wouldn't say it's true of all Salesmen. That will depend on the individual and the company they work for. Ever since the order for my GTI, that had a June delivery date (initially), I've been kept informed of every conversation and update from VW regarding it's build.

Yes, you're quite right not "ALL" salesmen (& women) should be tarnished with the same brush. I have nothing against salesmen... In fact I find the ones I've dealt with rather pleasant and would bend over backwards to be of assistance.  It's just a shame their product knowledge is shockingly deficient!!!

I've probably just been unlucky in my dealings with them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 May 2013, 21:43
It's just a shame their product knowledge is shockingly deficient!!!

I think they just have no reason to know anything about the GTI...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 02 May 2013, 21:54
Ever since the order for my GTI, that had a June delivery date (initially), I've been kept informed of every conversation and update from VW regarding it's build.

Ever since I placed my order back in February, I have yet to hear anything from my dealer. On the occasions I have phoned him up & chased him on the issue he was none the wiser with regards to build dates or lead times.

He's the nicest guy you could ever meet but I find the whole thing frustrating. I don't blame him personally though, because he only knows what VW UK tell him.  I'd be interested to know what sort of updates you've been getting from your deer with regards to your build?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 May 2013, 21:57
Mine promises to call or email at least once every 3 weeks with an update.

I'll let you know what happens!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 02 May 2013, 22:07
Bear.. You're quite right! They don't need to know anything, as you quite rightly pointed out.. "The car sells itself".... But it would be nice though  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 02 May 2013, 22:26
I'm not letting them off the hook though, its a problem they can't find out the info, give consistent answers and make their on-line systems work properly.

Then again, how many of us have cancelled our GTIs and placed an order for an ST instead?  Its probably not their no1 priority.   :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 03 May 2013, 00:21
The order book for the GTI (with VW) was only open from April as far as I'm aware. So if you placed an order with your dealer prior to this date, all you are doing is (hopefully) getting first dibs on that dealers allocation slot. To be processed when VW start taking orders.

As I understand it, at present there is an issue with the assembly process. All orders for GTI's have been 'parked' until this is resolved. No GTI has a valid build date at present. Once this is resolved, they will be processed, manufactured and delivered in date order, no matter what the specification. (As the only spec related delay was the DSG which is now not an issue).


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 May 2013, 01:11
As I understand it, at present there is an issue with the assembly process. All orders for GTI's have been 'parked' until this is resolved. No GTI has a valid build date at present. Once this is resolved, they will be processed, manufactured and delivered in date order, no matter what the specification. (As the only spec related delay was the DSG which is now not an issue).

Thanks for the update GtG.  Why my dealer couldn't tell me that I don't know...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 03 May 2013, 01:18
The order book for the GTI (with VW) was only open from April as far as I'm aware. So if you placed an order with your dealer prior to this date, all you are doing is (hopefully) getting first dibs on that dealers allocation slot. To be processed when VW start taking orders.

Sorry did I say i placed my order in February??? My 'Bad'....  What I meant to say was 'March'... Just feels longer  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 03 May 2013, 07:52
I don't understand why you guys are being fobbed off and being told GTI production is being "parked"??? I have a confirmed build date, week 20. Surely if they are building my car, they are building others too! It seems the UK market gets a raw deal in terms of order lead time for whatever reason.
This will be my 3rd GTI/GTd and I've never waited more than 8-9 weeks for any of them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 May 2013, 08:07
Looks like VW are looking after their Eurozone markets first before the UK. We get good spec for our money - we generally pay less than the Germans for an equivalently specced VW, but their finance rates are amazing (1.9% currently). VW do like to make us wait though, the UK generally are about 3 months behind the rest of Eurpoe when new VW models are launched.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 03 May 2013, 09:12
Interesting that that's the case for you Joe, clearly its better to order a car in Ireland than in England!  What I don't understand is that sales across Europe are down, even in Germany, for VW.  In fact, the only area that is showing growth in terms of car sales is the UK - which makes our lead times even more p!ss poor and disgusting - not looking after their only growth market is an outrage!  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 03 May 2013, 10:16
Interesting that that's the case for you Joe, clearly its better to order a car in Ireland than in England! What I don't understand is that sales across Europe are down, even in Germany, for VW.  In fact, the only area that is showing growth in terms of car sales is the UK - which makes our lead times even more p!ss poor and disgusting - not looking after their only growth market is an outrage!  :angry:

I'd rather pay our prices and wait a bit longer! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 03 May 2013, 10:43
I'd rather pay our prices and wait a bit longer! :smiley:

A fair point well made!!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: golfgti5 on 04 May 2013, 07:55
Question, my GTi will be build in Kw20.

Model year 2014 starts in Kw22, does that mean that i get a model year 2013 or will the start with 2014 models right away?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 May 2013, 10:03
Question, my GTi will be build in Kw20.

Model year 2014 starts in Kw22, does that mean that i get a model year 2013 or will the start with 2014 models right away?

Interesting. I'm build week 20 too. Adds evidence that they are indeed building "euro zone" models ahead of the UK batch... Even though I'm also RHD?!
When did you order?

To answer your question, you'll get the 2013 model. I was the same when I got my mk6 GTD. I missed out on the new MY build by a week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 May 2013, 10:53
For the Irish customers I suppose you have to ask yourself whether there are going to be any significant MY14 additions compared to MY13. Will Irish spec GTI/GTDs get colour MFD as standard in MY2014 or is it standard already? Can VW confirm what MY2014 additions (if any) are going to be? If there is something worth waiting for you'd better get in quick to delay your order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 May 2013, 11:26
For the Irish customers I suppose you have to ask yourself whether there are going to be any significant MY14 additions compared to MY13. Will Irish spec GTI/GTDs get colour MFD as standard in MY2014 or is it standard already? Can VW confirm what MY2014 additions (if any) are going to be? If there is something worth waiting for you'd better get in quick to delay your order.

The colour MFD is standard. Surprising, considering just about everything else is a costly option!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 May 2013, 11:30
JoeGTI: If you already have colour MFD standard on a MY13 model then unless VW feel they've been a bit stingy with the Irish you probably wouldn't get anything more on a MY14 car by waiting.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 May 2013, 11:34
JoeGTI: If you already have colour MFD standard on a MY13 model then unless VW feel they've been a bit stingy with the Irish you probably wouldn't get anything more on a MY14 car by waiting.

Oh I don't want to be waiting. The sooner it gets here the better!
Only pain is, the registration system has been changed here this year to be a bit like you guys. On July 1st, the plates change for 2nd half of the calendar year. I don't think I'd have the patience to ask the dealer to hold onto it on their forecourt for a month!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: golfgti5 on 04 May 2013, 13:54
Question, my GTi will be build in Kw20.

Model year 2014 starts in Kw22, does that mean that i get a model year 2013 or will the start with 2014 models right away?

Interesting. I'm build week 20 too. Adds evidence that they are indeed building "euro zone" models ahead of the UK batch... Even though I'm also RHD?!
When did you order?

To answer your question, you'll get the 2013 model. I was the same when I got my mk6 GTD. I missed out on the new MY build by a week.

I'm from the Netherlands, order date is 19 March.
The MY2014 is about 500 euro higher in the Netherlands then mine order from 19-3.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 05 May 2013, 21:15
Had an update (email) from VW forwarded to me today by my dealer. Do keep us posted re your week 20 build dates (on the magical assembly line run by unicorns)  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 05 May 2013, 21:19
Had an update (email) from VW forwarded to me today by my dealer. Do keep us posted re your week 20 build dates (on the magical assembly line run by unicorns)  :evil:

No point saying you had an email of you're not going to tell everyone what it said.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 05 May 2013, 21:41
When I placed my order I was told wk23, but now last week was told week 35!! WTF!  Jump of 12 weeks meaning I won't see it until September!! anyone else in the uk and had similar? I know dealers get an allotment but I was told I was the first order for my dealer on the 29th march! Very annoyed.. Deler said he'd call VW uk and check, but not heard back and website still says processing order! Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 05 May 2013, 21:47
True... won't copy and paste the email as I don't think it should have been forwarded to me in the first place.

Key points tho:

1. No MK7 GTI has a valid build date at present, though dates may have been assigned
2. The issue is with the order processing system, not the build system as first thought
3. This issue is being resolved as quickly as possible, may take hours or days, then subject to testing
4. Orders to be processed by order date / number
5. No delays at present based on factory options

Whilst no promises were made, they said my expected delivery date is 01/07..  which I'm really hoping for :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 05 May 2013, 21:56
True... won't copy and paste the email as I don't think it should have been forwarded to me in the first place.

Key points tho:

1. No MK7 GTI has a valid build date at present, though dates may have been assigned
2. The issue is with the order processing system, not the build system as first thought
3. This issue is being resolved as quickly as possible, may take hours or days, then subject to testing
4. Orders to be processed by order date / number
5. No delays at present based on factory options

Whilst no promises were made, they said my expected delivery date is 01/07..  which I'm really hoping for :)

This is the first bit of promising news we've heard for ages. Thanks for sharing, hopefully the issues they've had are being ironed out & stories of a 12 week build week addition are VW just covering themselves for worst case scenario. A July delivery is certainly worth hoping for!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 05 May 2013, 21:58

True... won't copy and paste the email as I don't think it should have been forwarded to me in the first place.

Key points tho:

1. No MK7 GTI has a valid build date at present, though dates may have been assigned
2. The issue is with the order processing system, not the build system as first thought
3. This issue is being resolved as quickly as possible, may take hours or days, then subject to testing
4. Orders to be processed by order date / number
5. No delays at present based on factory options

Whilst no promises were made, they said my expected delivery date is 01/07..  which I'm really hoping for :)

I was originally told that all orders were parked at BW22 as no actual build weeks had been issued yet, i then added the performance pack and it went to BW44!!!  :o  My dealer then told me he'd been on to VW who said don't worry it wouldn't be that late and pretty much as above.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 05 May 2013, 22:18
Thanks for the update GtG... It's good to know that the hold up isn't anything "major"!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 07:59
I also got told that nothing would happen until week 22 which is when the switch to MY14 takes place.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 06 May 2013, 08:49
Oh dear,  now I gotta come up with the cash 2 months earlier!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 08:54
Why, when were you expecting yours Bear?  I'm still going by the August time-frame.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 09:51
I am new to this forum having up to this point owned 4 Civic Type-R 's.  However as soon as the books opened on March 26th I ordered a Golf GTI Performance, in Oryx White, Pro Sat Nav, Reversing Camera etc,. I was originally told I would have a build week of Week 20.  Then I was told out of the blue that VW want to fit another component as standard to the cars called ADC (Auto Distance Control) but as a result the Build Date would be put back to August.  The Franchise I ordered the car through are also having to wait until a speculated September delivery before they can get their Demo Car? 

I was also told that if you have the performance pack being fitted you were eligable to having the ADC fitted standard.  But if you were having the base spec GTI then you would retain your original build week and not have ADC fitted.

I find this a bit weird how so late in the day they can decide to place ADC on the cars as standard and then delay build dates for orders they already have placed for cars.  Something is not quite adding up right? 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 10:03
Welcome Brenbo, and I think you are just on the receiving end of a dealer that doesn't quite know the full story.  If you put all of our experiences together, you wouldn't place an order! lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 May 2013, 10:08
Yeah, doesn't sound right to me mate, as far as we're aware the dealer demo cars are being built prior to wk22 so they should be in the dealerships in june, ADC is standard on the GTI/D regardless of spec so him saying it's that that has put your build back to august is rubbish! VW are saying that there are issues with the build planning system atm that they know about and are trying to fix, they say that the builds will be done by order number apparently.

Welcome btw! :afro:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 11:37
Thanks for your replies

I thought it all sounded a bit suss!  When I ordered the car I am driving at present (Civic Type-R Championship White) I had to wait about 2 months to delivery.  I thought it would be something more like ordering systems being corrupt rather than the manufacturer deciding to add more equipment standard so late in the day, which would be the culprit of delaying the build week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 06 May 2013, 12:59
Yeah welcome Brenbo... Loving the CTR!!! Especially the Champion White Edition... Rare as hens teeth.

It's shocking what excuses the dealers are coming up with.  When I pressed mine for a build date last week, he basically told me he was more than 'Happy' to give me one... But then in the same sentence said there wasnt any point as it wouldn't tell me anything more than he already knew.. Which wasn't a lot!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Exonian on 06 May 2013, 15:40
Thanks for your replies

I thought it all sounded a bit suss!  When I ordered the car I am driving at present (Civic Type-R Championship White) I had to wait about 2 months to delivery.  I thought it would be something more like ordering systems being corrupt rather than the manufacturer deciding to add more equipment standard so late in the day, which would be the culprit of delaying the build week.

Welcome Brenbo! Cornwall eh? I buzz down through Cornwall every couple of weeks, in fact I was in Newlyn on Saturday.
CTR is a pretty focussed machine, the GTI will certainly be different (much less revs and much more torque!).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 17:13
I have absolutely loved owning the Civic Type-R's. The high rev naturally aspirated engine will definitely be a different experience to the Golf, which I feel is going to be a fantastic change.  The power is all at the top end on the Civic's so to have a Golf GTi with more power at the bottom end, and a lot more Torque to boot will make driving a bit more exciting and refreshing.  I do have to say the Civic is still putting a smile on my face, but I cannot wait to get my hands on the GTI.  I also live in North Cornwall so most of you guys probably go straight past where I live if as you go down the A30 in to Cornwall. 

Also many thanks for making me feel welcome to the GTI forum.   

The way I feel at present with the build week thing, is to be honest a bit confused?  Is it going to be a case of us all waiting in limbo for a more accurate date to appear one day?  I am just glad I have all the cash for the car already saved and in a bank account to pay for it whenever it appears.  So if it's next week, next month or September like I am being told.  I will have the money to pay for it. 

As mentioned earlier I did not experience this with Honda on ordering the Championship White.  It was just a case of going in, ordering the car, getting a date there and then as I payed the deposit and then that was it until it was delivered on the day I was told.  So straight forward, easy and fuss free.  Why can't VW make the process as easy and accurate as Honda can.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 17:51
Week 25. (update from dealer)

Apparently the system updates are now done.

When is week 25? Mid June?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 May 2013, 17:55
Week 25. (update from dealer)

Apparently the system updates are now done.

When is week 25? Mid June?


Commences the 17th of june


Thats more like it! Thanks for the update, now lets see about the rest of us! :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 06 May 2013, 17:56
Week 25. (update from dealer)

Apparently the system updates are now done.

When is week 25? Mid June?

Does it show week 25 on the order tracker?

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 18:05
No, order tracker still shows processing.

I have a screenshot of the order system sent from my dealer today.
Shows week 25 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 06 May 2013, 18:13
No, order tracker still shows processing.

I have a screenshot of the order system sent from my dealer today.
Shows week 25 :smiley:

Brill, thanks for the info  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 May 2013, 18:36
Thanks for the update! Fingers crossed its the same for the rest of us  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 May 2013, 18:40
GofTi: Was yours ordered on the 3rd? I wonder how much bearing colour has on build time. I suppose it depends upon how many active paint shops the Wolfsburg plant (assuming GTI/GTDs are being built there as opposed to the Belgian plant). If some paint shops are in rotation for colour (requiring full cleandowns between campaigns of a certain colour) then it could delay things a week or 2. I would expect dedicated paint shops for White and a few of the most common/popular colours.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 18:44
The boat will be full :laugh:

The amazing Wolfsburg factory can make 2000 cars a day.
A few GTIs... no bother.

Don't know what all the fuss is about :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 18:47
DSG might be delayed a bit ( look at the links on the tracker page).

Colour - I saw at least 10 different colours when I visited, it's not an issue.


BTW- all golfs are built in Wolfsburg except for the USA market.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 19:17
Hope the build date for the rest of us is going to be around week 25.  I originally had Week 20. 

However if configurations like paint colour etc, do have an effect on build dates, I will be later than some of you.  I have Oryx White configured on my car.  I don't think there is a high turnover for Oryx White spray jobs at the factory, due to the price. 

Hope I hear from my VW Dealer soon with a better, more realistic date than the last one of Week 34/35. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 May 2013, 19:20
GolfTi: Have they finally closed the Belgian plant then, or maybe they don't make enough (given the current economic climate) to need 2 plants making the Golf? Those lucky yanks - Seen the price they pay for GTIs? $25k (£16k) and metallic paint is a free option! Theirs are made in Mexico, so labour is obviously cheaper, but even so, i'm sure Mexican VW metallic paint doesn't cost any less than ours.

My Dad is getting DSG, perhaps his will be a bit behind mine, although I did ask the question when ordering his and the dealer reckoned there was no current DSG delay.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 May 2013, 19:22
I saw a pearl-white Bentley at the Shell garage this morning - looked a bit odd. Is the Oryx white looking a bit less pearly than an actual white pearl? Must be hard picking a colour that you're unlikely to have seen in the flesh beyond the sample card.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 May 2013, 19:26
Certain options will delay the build slightly from my experience - eg. dsg, dynaudio (dammit  :angry:), special paint etc.  but....should only be a week or so  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 19:28
I saw a pearl-white Bentley at the Shell garage this morning - looked a bit odd. Is the Oryx white looking a bit less pearly than an actual white pearl? Must be hard picking a colour that you're unlikely to have seen in the flesh beyond the sample card.

I've seen a few pearl-white cars, from Mazda to Lexus, and they all look like a giant oyster shell (OK, I exaggerate but you get my drift!). They have a strange, almost feminine look, about them.  Of the photos and video I've seen, the ones that look the best to me are those that look like bright flat white, even if they aren't really, just dodgy white balance.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 06 May 2013, 19:33
Gryzor: Like it was hewn from the innards of a large oyster shell is exactly how the Bentley looked, and it was being driven by an NUFC WAG who must've been out to enjoy the Tynemouth coast today.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 06 May 2013, 19:36
Carbon Grey... all the way  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 19:38
GolfTi: Have they finally closed the Belgian plant then, or maybe they don't make enough (given the current economic climate) to need 2 plants making the Golf? Those lucky yanks - Seen the price they pay for GTIs? $25k (£16k) and metallic paint is a free option! Theirs are made in Mexico, so labour is obviously cheaper, but even so, i'm sure Mexican VW metallic paint doesn't cost any less than ours.

My Dad is getting DSG, perhaps his will be a bit behind mine, although I did ask the question when ordering his and the dealer reckoned there was no current DSG delay.
What Belgian plant?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 06 May 2013, 19:40
Think he means this one mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 06 May 2013, 19:50
Gryzor: Like it was hewn from the innards of a large oyster shell is exactly how the Bentley looked, and it was being driven by an NUFC WAG who must've been out to enjoy the Tynemouth coast today.

Yup, it's the closest I can come to describing it, with all those green/pink rainbow hues.  The Oryx paint sample shows the same, and I definitely don't want my car shimmering like that.  Now, a nice bit of minimalist metal flake in an otherwise flat white could be quite nice.

Sorry guys, realise this is a bit off-topic.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 06 May 2013, 19:51
It should be OK to have Oryx White where I live.  If it really is too pearlesent I can park it amongst the Lobster pots and shell fish at the beach, which is where it will reside most of summer months anyway...  The beach that is not amongst lobster pots  :smiley:

I have seen a couple cars with Oryx White in the flesh and it really is not as bad as the other cars you describe.  It is a much flatter subtle pearl effect.  Not gawdy or tacky like some of the others do.  There was a special edition Golf R a year or two ago which was Oryx White.  I thought it actually looked quite smart... and to note it was also not feminine or WAG like.

Check out the link below for the Golf R in Oryx White, it actually looks quite smart.   

http://www.mad4wheels.com/webpics/hires/00007666%20-%202011%20Volkswagen%20Golf%20R%20Oryx%20White/2011_Volkswagen_Golf_R_Oryx_White_001_4232.jpg

Anyway back to the subject.  Good to hear some of us are getting earlier dates coming through. 
 


 

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 06 May 2013, 19:55
Gryzor: Like it was hewn from the innards of a large oyster shell is exactly how the Bentley looked, and it was being driven by an NUFC WAG who must've been out to enjoy the Tynemouth coast today.

Yup, it's the closest I can come to describing it, with all those green/pink rainbow hues.  The Oryx paint sample shows the same, and I definitely don't want my car shimmering like that.  Now, a nice bit of minimalist metal flake in an otherwise flat white could be quite nice.

Sorry guys, realise this is a bit off-topic.

I was talking to an old guy the other day, he'd recently took delivery of a brand new Peugeot 208. His wife chose the colour 'Rose Quartz', but she just told him it was a bronze metallic colour. He was moaning like hell as it looks bronze/gold metallic until the sun shines when it sparkles a lovely shade of pink.  :grin:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 06 May 2013, 20:01
Oryx White - I think it's a fantastic white. No question. After all, its the only one really pushed in the marketing promos. Problem with it is the price. Just too damn expensive!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 06 May 2013, 20:08
Think he means this one mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk
:huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 May 2013, 20:15
Think he means this one mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk)
???


It was going to close but Audi took it over and now build the A1 there.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 06 May 2013, 22:04
Challenged Stoke VW on their promise of a GTD for end May/start June which I was promised. They are now saying that cqrs will not start being built until week 32... Can anyone else chase their dealers and check this too??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 May 2013, 22:33
Challenged Stoke VW on their promise of a GTD for end May/start June which I was promised. They are now saying that cqrs will not start being built until week 32... Can anyone else chase their dealers and check this too??

I know I'm a GTI and not a GTD, but ill be chasing my dealer first thing tomorrow - if others have confirmed build dates then I want one too!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 06 May 2013, 22:59
Challenged Stoke VW on their promise of a GTD for end May/start June which I was promised. They are now saying that cqrs will not start being built until week 32... Can anyone else chase their dealers and check this too??

I know I'm a GTI and not a GTD, but ill be chasing my dealer first thing tomorrow - if others have confirmed build dates then I want one too!  :)


I doubt they'll be confirmed mate, provisional would be my guess. :-\
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 07 May 2013, 07:55
Think he means this one mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl4uCT0jkFk
:huh:

I did mean that one. It's on the outskirts of Brussels - looks like Audi have nabbed it from VW now. After reading a bit more into it, Golf production from there ceased completely in 2009.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 May 2013, 09:31
Wait, so wk25 or wk32? Anyone else heard from their dealer?  I'm away in Switzerland and the suspense is killing me!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 09:36
Wait, so wk25 or wk32? Anyone else heard from their dealer?  I'm away in Switzerland and the suspense is killing me!

I'm trying Bear - my dealer is away this week  :angry: so I've emailed someone else - if I don't hear back by lunch I'll call them up - I'll let you know my progress (if any) which will hopefully prompt a few more to get onto their dealers for build dates!  :laugh:
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Post by: GtG on 07 May 2013, 09:41
Trying to call mine also (possibly driving him slightly mad) but that's what they're for right!?  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 09:58
Trying to call mine also (possibly driving him slightly mad) but that's what they're for right!?  :smiley:

 :grin: :grin: I always promise them I'm not going to hassle them - but I always do - can't control myself  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 07 May 2013, 10:09
Phoning mine today to change colour for mine and add my dad's warranty. I will ask him what the build week situation is with mine currently (assuming colour change won't push it down the queue).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 07 May 2013, 11:33
Just got off the phone with my dealer, he says it's gone from wk44 to unconfirmed wk35 26th aug, he says it's most likely because i've added the performance pack! :cry:

I was hoping to collect it the 1st of sept but it's looking like the end of sept beginning of oct! :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 11:36
Just got off the phone with my dealer, he says it's gone from wk44 to unconfirmed wk35 26th aug, he sats it's most likely because i've added the performance pack! :cry:

I was hoping to collect it the 1st of sept but it's looking like the end of sept beginning of oct! :sad:

Balls.  :angry:  Sorry to hear that Jimble.  My dealer has promised to get back to me today so I'm going to expect the same response.  Quite why these options delay the production of a car I don't know - but they clearly do, and it'll be worth the wait!  :smiley:

Highly annoying though.  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 07 May 2013, 11:45
Just got off the phone with my dealer, he says it's gone from wk44 to unconfirmed wk35 26th aug, he sats it's most likely because i've added the performance pack! :cry:

I was hoping to collect it the 1st of sept but it's looking like the end of sept beginning of oct! :sad:

Balls.  :angry:  Sorry to hear that Jimble.  My dealer has promised to get back to me today so I'm going to expect the same response.  Quite why these options delay the production of a car I don't know - but they clearly do, and it'll be worth the wait!  :smiley:

Highly annoying though.  :cry:

He seems to think it's because i added it after i'd placed the order and if i'd specced it originally it wouldn't have pushed it so far back, he also said it could potentially come forward a little more which from experience does happen but we'll see??
It's not a major issue for me as it's only a couple of weeks after i originally wanted to collect it but i can imagine there may be a few unhappy folk on here.

He also said standard GTI's he's ordered have BW 25 so far! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 11:52
At least you have the right attitude about it - no point getting  :angry: as it is what it is - and it'll be worth the wait for the PP addition!

I would imagine all non stock cars will turn up later than the basic ones - that's just the way it is.  That date isn't set in stone like you say, you may be able to piggy back on another order (as long as its not mine!  :laugh:) and "nick" their car effectively if its the same spec - but I think that's something the dealer has to request??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 07 May 2013, 12:12
Just been told BW27  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 12:34
Just spoken to VW Customer Services, I've also been told Build Week 27 (but still unconfirmed), with an estimated delivery date of last week of July/first week of August ie. 4-6 weeks from build.

I am very happy with this news given I was expecting a mid September delivery as per usual!!  :smiley: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 May 2013, 13:09
I couldnt take it any longer so I emailed Lucie. Here is what she emailed back:

Quote
We have had a scheduled week from the factory of 36, this is not confirmed so not set in stone so will hopefully come forward.

So currently I can't expect delivery until October  :sad:
But at least I get the new plates!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 07 May 2013, 13:45
Spoke to my dealer today to get a colour change (to Tornado Red) and he said that build weeks for GTI/GTD will not be assigned to orders until we are in MY14 (week 22). Only then will it be transparent when your car will be built. Everyone gets a different story!

One thing I forgot with mine last time - if you do take your car on the continent at all, don't forget to ask for EU/GB plates on the new car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 07 May 2013, 14:07
Spoke to my dealer today to get a colour change (to Tornado Red) and he said that build weeks for GTI/GTD will not be assigned to orders until we are in MY14 (week 22). Only then will it be transparent when your car will be built. Everyone gets a different story!

I got exactly the same response when I pushed my dealer for info last week. She said we won't hear anything until BW 22-23, and more likely nothing will be built I factory until BW 27.

So, I'm gonna try and give her some slack for a few weeks then then turn up the pressure again.

One thing I am amaze at is how variable everybody's build weeks are coming through. Considering we're all very early adopters you'd think/hope we'd be first in line for June deliveries. Sadly this has not been the case. It's been a shambolic launch here in the UK with all the misinformation and MY2014 push backs.
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Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 14:10
"Der neuer Golf GTI - you can order one in March 2013, and its on sale in June 2013! *fanfare*

(but you can't have it till August/September 2013, if you're lucky, cause we're too busy making Demos)

 :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: crouchy88 on 07 May 2013, 14:31
Hi all, I'm new to the forum! I went into my dealership last week to enquire about the new GTI, I got a phone call yesterday to tell me that I couldn't get my hands on one until December. According to the dealer they are having problems with the ADC on the GTI's :/
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 07 May 2013, 14:43
Hi all, I'm new to the forum! I went into my dealership last week to enquire about the new GTI, I got a phone call yesterday to tell me that I couldn't get my hands on one until December. According to the dealer they are having problems with the ADC on the GTI's :/

Welcome aboard Crouchy :wink:

Yet another yarn of bull we're being spun! How many other billy-bill stories can they come up with. On the funny side I've not heard ADC issues as an excuse before. So top marks for originality!

My advice to you is ring around other dealers & try online brokers too. Don't settle for the first response you've had.

December delivery.. Sheesh :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tuscan on 07 May 2013, 15:54
Hi I am new here to!

I ordered my GTD on Business Lease hire and was told May/early June. I emailed the company to get an update and I got a very vague response to!

Hi Ben,

 

I have spoken to our dealership, apparently there is a lot going on behind the scenes on these new shape Golfs.  They are hoping to have a better idea in the next 14 days as regards delivery.  I will let you know as soon as we hear anything back from them.

 

Kind regards


Cant VW release a statement just to let everyone know what the problems are?  This is very frustrating!   :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 May 2013, 16:45
Just spoken to VW customer services and been told build week 35. Now considering I was told build week 22 last week I'm now looking at delivery in September sometime. When I pushed them they said if I'd ordered as soon as the books opened for order then I would have a June delivery. Very strange considering no gtd or gti's are being built until at least w/c 27th May. I really think they are just pulling dates from a random generator and why does the VW website still say June to buy. What the hell is the point in ordering on 1st April to mid all of the summer and maybe get a September delivery. Only plus is that it'll have 63 plate and not 13. I am shocked at how shambolic VW are and was not expecting this from them. At this rate I'll have to tax and tyre the tiguan before gtd comes :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 07 May 2013, 17:28
I still think some GTI's will arrive tail end of June, but it will be completely random as to whose orders they are. As I didn't order until 30/4 I'm pretty much resigned to the fact mine will be arriving around August time. I always said if it doesn't arrive 'til August then I'll wait for '63 reg.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: golfgti5 on 07 May 2013, 17:32
Ordered my GTi on 19 March in The Netherlands.
My dealer confirmed that the GTi will be build in week 20, so i get MY2013.
From week 22 MY2014 will be build, electric windows on 4 doors will be standard and the GTi will cost 660 euro more.
So on one hand i'm not happy with MY2013 but on the other hand i am happy that i not have to pay an extra 660 euro.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 May 2013, 17:36
I still think some GTI's will arrive tail end of June, but it will be completely random as to whose orders they are. As I didn't order until 30/4 I'm pretty much resigned to the fact mine will be arriving around August time. I always said if it doesn't arrive 'til August then I'll wait for '63 reg.

Currently I'm assigned a build week that is first week of September but that it 'may' move forward.  My ideal delivery would be 1st September with a 63 plate.  Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 07 May 2013, 17:46
Hi everyone, first post here.

Been watching the forum for a few weeks now, but thought i'd get involved with the fun and post my up to date experience.

I ordered my GTD 3 door manual on Saturday 27th April, trading in a Mini Cooper SD. I'd class it as my first 'proper' car, as i've just turned 24 and have usually been insured out of everything i've wanted in recent years.

The sales exec at Lookers Blackburn gave me an ETA of 1st August for delivery. At which point I would probably wait until 1st September for the 63 reg.

Chased them for a build date today, they basically said the order had been confirmed but that they didn't have a confirmed build week at this stage. They would advise me when they knew this. Tracking my order online gives me this same information.

Anyway, i'm really feeling the excitement like everybody else. I wasn't this excited when I first ever passed my driving test. Going from a Mini to a Mk7 really seems to be like going from Susan Boyle up to Kelly Brook, and i've let myself go on this one! Bring on the delivery dates!

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 07 May 2013, 18:11
If the car came with Kelly Brook I'd gladly wait till 2014 for delivery!  :laugh:

Welcome btw!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 May 2013, 18:17
The annoying this is if VW had said from the outset it was likely to be for September delivery people would have known that. Why say on sale June if they can't deliver, its misrepresentation and false advertising!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 07 May 2013, 18:28
OK, I'm starting to get concerned now. I seem to be the only person who's order number isn't even recognised on the "track your order" website  :cry: placed my order on the 14th April.

Spoke to the dealer and he told me it wouldn't appear until VW have assigned a build week, but I told him that was bull, as the order should have at least been acknowledged, even if a build week hasn't been assigned, as lots of people on here seem to be that far at least.

Think it's a trip in there at the weekend to see whats bloody going on  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 07 May 2013, 18:43
I've been into my dealer today and they showed me my order on system, but no build date was showing. :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 07 May 2013, 18:48
You should be able to see order in process on the tracker with your order number. Ring VW customer services and give them your order number.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 May 2013, 18:58
Just checked mine and for the first time it appears on the online tracker instead of adding not recognised like it was before.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 07 May 2013, 19:13
I ordered my GTD  02/05.  Dealer has guesstimated 16+ weeks.

I have been holding out for this since last October.  The wait is getting harder and harder.

I'm hoping it won't be delayed any longer than that  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 07 May 2013, 19:23
OK, I'm starting to get concerned now. I seem to be the only person who's order number isn't even recognised on the "track your order" website  :cry: placed my order on the 14th April.

Spoke to the dealer and he told me it wouldn't appear until VW have assigned a build week, but I told him that was bull, as the order should have at least been acknowledged, even if a build week hasn't been assigned, as lots of people on here seem to be that far at least.

Think it's a trip in there at the weekend to see whats bloody going on  :angry:

Norbreck, you're not the only one matey. I have an order number, however it still it isn't recognised by the VW Track Your Order website even though my order was placed on 10 April. Should I be concerned?

I was fed exactly the same as you, that it won't appear until I've been assigned a build week. Obviously this doesn't add up as many on here can see their order on the website yet still haven't been assigned a build week.

I've been onto my dealer about this but I've given up pestering them for now, mainly for my own sanity. However she did assure me most sincerely that my order is placed and is awaiting a build week. What else can I do?

Don't feel you're the only one as there's me too :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 07 May 2013, 19:25
OK, I'm starting to get concerned now. I seem to be the only person who's order number isn't even recognised on the "track your order" website  :cry: placed my order on the 14th April.

Spoke to the dealer and he told me it wouldn't appear until VW have assigned a build week, but I told him that was bull, as the order should have at least been acknowledged, even if a build week hasn't been assigned, as lots of people on here seem to be that far at least.

Think it's a trip in there at the weekend to see whats bloody going on  :angry:

Norbreck, you're not the only one matey. I have an order number, however it still it isn't recognised by the VW Track Your Order website even though my order was placed on 10 April. Should I be concerned?

I was fed exactly the same as you, that it won't appear until I've been assigned a build week. Obviously this doesn't add up as many on here can see their order on the website yet still haven't been assigned a build week.

I've been onto my dealer about this but I've given up pestering them for now, mainly for my own sanity. However she did assure me most sincerely that my order is placed and is awaiting a build week. What else can I do?

Don't feel you're the only one as there's me too :whistle:

I'd be a little worried as my order number worked on the tracker within 24hrs of ordering.
 the car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 07 May 2013, 19:59
I wouldn't be concerned.

They won't have simply not ordered the car I don't believe. You are the customer who has ordered a car, they will want to deliver it to you. If the sales exec says they've done it, then I'd believe them over what appears to be an unreliable tracking service!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jerseyal on 07 May 2013, 20:00
Ordered my gti on the 3rd of April here in Jersey on the Channel Isles got an order number but no build date as yet .My local salesman says it will be in the next week or so .Lets hope so !
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lendo on 08 May 2013, 00:02
Also in Jersey! ordered mine 9th April was given build date today by Jacksons of week 27 (July 1st)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 08 May 2013, 08:39
Ditto in Jersey ordered 1st April quoted build week 24 have not chased Jacksons will wait till end of month,
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lendo on 08 May 2013, 08:51
I think it will drive me insane if I see another one driving round here while I'm still waiting!  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 08 May 2013, 10:17
Finally managed to get my order number and put it into the tracker, it is only at processing stage still, but I did notice something:

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/doingPaperwork?orderNumber=23210768 (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/doingPaperwork?orderNumber=23210768)

My upholstery is showing as "Titan Black" - what is that all about? I thought it was Jacara? Didn't realise Titan Black was even an option?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 May 2013, 10:18
Finally managed to get my order number and put it into the tracker, it is only at processing stage still, but I did notice something:

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/doingPaperwork?orderNumber=23210768 (http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/owners/track-my-order/doingPaperwork?orderNumber=23210768)

My upholstery is showing as "Titan Black" - what is that all about? I thought it was Jacara? Didn't realise Titan Black was even an option?

Yet another bug, mine says that too.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 08 May 2013, 10:19
Mine says titan black too, i wouldn't worry i think titan is the colour of the dash panels etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 08 May 2013, 10:25
I've just put my order url into changedetection.com so I don't have to keep going back looking for updates.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 May 2013, 10:27
I've just put my order url into changedetection.com so I don't have to keep going back looking for updates.

Nah, where's the fun in that  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 May 2013, 10:27
I wouldn't be concerned.

They won't have simply not ordered the car I don't believe. You are the customer who has ordered a car, they will want to deliver it to you. If the sales exec says they've done it, then I'd believe them over what appears to be an unreliable tracking service!

My dealer held my order back for over a week.  It was only because I hadn't received my order number that I chased (thanks to the feedback on this forum).  Amazingly  :rolleyes:, an hour later I had an order number.  I also got the order date confirmed with VW Customer Services and it was NOT on the day they said they'd ordered it - in fact, its only because I chased them that the order was put through.  So, for whatever reason, my order was held back.  As soon as it was put through I had an order number, and that worked on the tracker the next day.

Not wishing to scare monger but if I would chase them.  VW Customer Services said that you should have an order number within a few hours of the dealer putting that on the system - if you don't then they haven't placed the order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 08 May 2013, 10:41
I wouldn't be concerned.

They won't have simply not ordered the car I don't believe. You are the customer who has ordered a car, they will want to deliver it to you. If the sales exec says they've done it, then I'd believe them over what appears to be an unreliable tracking service!

My dealer held my order back for over a week.  It was only because I hadn't received my order number that I chased (thanks to the feedback on this forum).  Amazingly  :rolleyes:, an hour later I had an order number.  I also got the order date confirmed with VW Customer Services and it was NOT on the day they said they'd ordered it - in fact, its only because I chased them that the order was put through.  So, for whatever reason, my order was held back.  As soon as it was put through I had an order number, and that worked on the tracker the next day.

Not wishing to scare monger but if I would chase them.  VW Customer Services said that you should have an order number within a few hours of the dealer putting that on the system - if you don't then they haven't placed the order.

Probably had met that months target and wanted your order on the following months figures. If so, that's despicable IMO
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 May 2013, 10:52
Yep, totally.  I was f7cking livid when I found out to be honest.  But....only thing that has calmed me down is the fact that my estimated delivery date is a month earlier than my last GTI so that's stopped me flying off the handle as I expected Sep :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mortimerchris on 08 May 2013, 10:58
After coming up as order processing on the site last Sat 10 days after ordering, I decided to call VW yesterday.
I go a call back this morning to say I have been given a provisional build date of 2nd September (Week 36)
Gutted!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 08 May 2013, 11:15
After coming up as order processing on the site last Sat 10 days after ordering, I decided to call VW yesterday.
I go a call back this morning to say I have been given a provisional build date of 2nd September (Week 36)
Gutted!

I got wk35 provisional, but they say this will "hopefully" come forward.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 08 May 2013, 11:20
Update:

Just got off the phone to VW Customer service to ask why my order number still isn't recognised by the 'Track My Order' website. They offered no explanation other than to say other people have complained about the same thing. No Sh*t Sherlock!

Still not any the wiser as to why my order number still brings up this message, even after a calendar month!

"Sorry, we can't find this order number. Please check your order tracking card and try again or contact your retailer."

They did check the validity of the order number and whether it was proceeding - luckily it was yes to both.

One extra tidbit, they said that GTD models ordered when I did should start arriving end of July early August. This sounds about right from all the other info on this site and from hawk eyed members.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 May 2013, 11:23
Ah thanks Five-O. I'm going to do the same thing at lunchtime (what number did you ring please). Like you, I just want assurance that the bloody car is actually on order and proceeded, despite it appearing or not on the VW website.

Good news for you that at least they have confirmed yours is on order, and the delivery dates given seem more reasonable.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 08 May 2013, 11:29
Anybody who updated their spec after their original order may want to check their order number.  Mine changed, which explains why it is not showing on the VW website.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 08 May 2013, 12:00
Changed my spec yesterday and salesman told me original order number still stands. You shouldnt be getting a new order number as you havent ordered a new car. I still cant believe the website says on sale in June when no one in the uk will drive a gti or gtd before July... probably. I was told i'd have the car in June by customer services so if it arrives in August or September I wont be happy. The bloody summer (if we get one) will be gone by then  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 08 May 2013, 12:39
Well, just been onto VW customer services as to why my order number isn't being recognised on the website (thought the dealers may have been bull sh1tting me), however they confirmed its in the system, was confirmed back immediately on the 18th April and is just waiting for a build week.

One thing she did say is that as I've added so many options to my car, mine will be on a slightly longer lead time than vanilla spec cars. Even so, she's quoting a "preliminary" build week of mid July, however stressed that its not confirmed and that it's subject to possible change.

I'm just relieved its in the system at Wolfsburg and is actually being processed. She couldn't explain why my order isn't being recognised in the website though ?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 May 2013, 13:16
Mine is as vanilla as it can be, could I be one of the lucky ones (order accepted by VW March 30th).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 15:03
I still cant believe the website says on sale in June when no one in the uk will drive a gti or gtd before July... probably. I was told i'd have the car in June by customer services so if it arrives in August or September I wont be happy. The bloody summer (if we get one) will be gone by then  :grin:

My thoughts exactly!! I was hoping to get some 'summer' driving in, but with the way things are going it'll probably arrive the same time as the Snow starts to set in.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 17:17
Woohooo!!! Just got a call from my dealer this afternoon.  Finally, got an order number & a build date.

It's looking like Week 27 (1st week of July) with expected delivery for the end of July (this is for a White 5 door GTi with PP, ACC/DCC & 19" Santiago's - order placed on 29.03.13).

Progress at last!!! :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 08 May 2013, 17:29
Woohooo!!! Just got a call from my dealer this afternoon.  Finally, got an order number & a build date.
 :smiley:
It's looking like Week 27 (1st week of July) with expected delivery for the end of July (this is for a White 5 door GTi with PP, ACC/DCC & 19" Santiago's - order placed on 29.03.13).

Progress at last!!! :smiley:

That's brilliant news :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 17:45
Thanks Bud. This was straight from the 'Procurement Managers' mouth so I'm optimistic!!

Apparently when my dealer checked my order two weeks ago it was showing  provisional Week 43... which was why he didn't want to give me an order number. Apparently when orders are first placed on the system they will all show 43??  (Don't know if that's true or not)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 May 2013, 18:16
Great news! Seems some of us are getting somewhere, hopefully the rest will follow! All the cars will be on the same boat too!!  :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 18:54
But not before time! Here's hoping the flood gates open... Dealer also confirmed that their demo should be arriving sometime in June (as predicted)...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tom90 on 08 May 2013, 19:00
But not before time! Here's hoping the flood gates open... Dealer also confirmed that their demo should be arriving sometime in June (as predicted)...

the dealership in Leicester said to me the demo will arrive around mid june
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 19:01
Sorry I forgot to mention... He indicated that their "demo" won't have the Performance Pack but will be basically plain 'Vanilla' spec.. That's all I know unfortunately. I will get first drive once it arrives apparently  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 May 2013, 19:03
Sorry I forgot to mention... He indicated that their "demo" won't have the Performance Pack but will be basically plain 'Vanilla' spec.. That's all I know unfortunately. I will get first drive once it arrives apparently  :smiley:

I've been promised first drive too, will be a great taster for the main event!   :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 08 May 2013, 19:36
Woohooo!!! Just got a call from my dealer this afternoon.  Finally, got an order number & a build date.

It's looking like Week 27 (1st week of July) with expected delivery for the end of July (this is for a White 5 door GTi with PP, ACC/DCC & 19" Santiago's - order placed on 29.03.13).

Progress at last!!! :smiley:

"It's looking like" lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 08 May 2013, 20:02
Quote from: ROO1 link=topic=252146.msg2324854 :#msg2324854 date=1368038195
Woohooo!!! Just got a call from my dealer this afternoon.  Finally, got an order number & a build date.

It's looking like Week 27 (1st week of July) with expected delivery for the end of July (this is for a White 5 door GTi with PP, ACC/DCC & 19" Santiago's - order placed on 29.03.13).

Progress at last!!! :smiley:

"It's looking like" lol

Hahaha... Suppose I'll believe it when I see it!!  :grin: He could be referring to July '2014' for all I know  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 08 May 2013, 20:10
Every new car I've owned has been late by at least 2 weeks. The worst 12 weeks late (Audi A1)......same parent company lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 09:11
Anyone else been given a build week then?  Think there's a good 5-10 so far??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 May 2013, 09:41
Nowt yet, but I was the first to order a GTD (no GTIs ordered to that point either - do they share allocation per dealer or are they independent of each other?) and mine is a vanilla model in a common colour, so hopefully there should be no good reason to delay it.

My official VW tracking is still showing my originally ordered colour of Deep Black Pearl instead of Tornado Red changed 2 days ago and I know the dealer inputted the change immediately, so the tracker is complete bollocks. My dealer has been told by VW UK that he won't get any further information regarding build week updates until Week 22 is upon us.

Seems pretty screwed up that VW are diverting building capacity away from ordered cars to fulfill demo orders. Why do that when the car is currently selling itself to the point whereby they've probably got most of 2013's orders than can be allocated this year already sewn up. A load of these in customers hand and getting driven all around the country is as much publicity as you could ask for with this model.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 09 May 2013, 09:47
Just heard from my dealer last night.  My GTD has provisional build week 32, which must be some point in August.  This seems okay to me as I only ordered last week.

I've got my tracker number too, which works okay on the VW website (but obviously only says "processing").
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 09:51
I've said this before, having a car in a dealership is no match for seeing a car driven around.  Only people that see the car in the dealership are those specifically bothered to go there, IF they know its out - whereas when you see one on the road you are like 'ooh look the new GTI,' which gets a potential customer thinking (far bigger audience) and then they start researching the car, reading reviews etc.

The fact that the earliest anyone will see one on the road other than a test drive is end of July is such an oversight by VW, given their 'on sale June' tagline.  Then again, it could be said that as they've clearly sold their allocations up to it seems at least October then their marketing technique is working, so what do I know!  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 May 2013, 10:05
I think everyones will be provisional week 32 until the MY14 changes take place on wk 22. We should just wait until then as i think different info is coming from different dealers and vw themselves.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 09 May 2013, 13:46
Just had a call, now week 28... So should get first or second week in August. As I'm putting a private plate on it I don't care about waiting for new reg!!  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 14:33
Just had a call, now week 28...

Nick, what week were you originally told?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 09 May 2013, 14:55
Just had a call, now week 28... So should get first or second week in August. As I'm putting a private plate on it I don't care about waiting for new reg!!  :evil:

That sounds about right. Pretty much in-line with what I was told yesterday. I think we both placed our orders on the 29th March so it's all very promising.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: TurboTrev on 09 May 2013, 15:05
Still no sign of mine on the track your order site.  To those that can see their orders on the site, does your order number begin with 2320 followed by 4 more numbers?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 09 May 2013, 15:09
Still no sign of mine on the track your order site.  To those that can see their orders on the site, does your order number begin with 2320 followed by 4 more numbers?

Close... Mine starts with 2318 followed by 4 more numbers
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 09 May 2013, 15:33
Mines 2321xxxx, and it still isn't on "track your order" yet. Despite that VW customer services and the dealer assure me 100% that the order has been accepted by VW Germany and is currently being processed and waiting for a build week.

As I've spec'ed so many options, I think at this rate my build week will be just before the MK8 Golf is announced  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 16:37
I'm 2322xxxx. They must be sequential and I ordered near the end of April.

I've currently got a build week at start of September.  I think it may come forward a bit and end up around 30 or 31...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 09 May 2013, 17:14
I'm 2317 and still nothing  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 17:24
I'm 2322xxxx. They must be sequential and I ordered near the end of April.

I've currently got a build week at start of September.  I think it may come forward a bit and end up around 30 or 31...

Mine is 2322 and I ordered beginning of April!  Clearly its just random!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 17:27
I'm 2322xxxx. They must be sequential and I ordered near the end of April.

I've currently got a build week at start of September.  I think it may come forward a bit and end up around 30 or 31...

Mine is 2322 and I ordered beginning of April!  Clearly its just random!!  :laugh:

Oh.  :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 17:32
You are Cambridgeshire though aren't you Bear?  I am Hertfordshire, and not far from Cambridgeshire - therefore the first 4 digits I'm guessing are regional (a bit like license plates and the first 2 letters) - so I wouldn't worry about the first 4 digits as they aren't in order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 09 May 2013, 17:54
I am a 2321 like Norbreck and he is in Cheshire, miles away from me in Surrey - so I don't think the first 4 digits are represent a region code.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 18:01
I am a 2321 like Norbreck and he is in Cheshire, miles away from me in Surrey - so I don't think the first 4 digits are represent a region code.

Dammit, thought I was onto something  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 18:13
I am a 2321 like Norbreck and he is in Cheshire, miles away from me in Surrey - so I don't think the first 4 digits are represent a region code.

Dammit, thought I was onto something  :lipsrsealed:

Yah that would have been good,  except I ordered from a dealer in Warwickshire.
Ah well.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 09 May 2013, 18:23
I'm 2317 and still nothing  :cry:

Likewise 2317 and nothing
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 09 May 2013, 18:35
I'm 2317 and still nothing  :cry:

Likewise 2317 and nothing

Mines 2317 too but mines showing as processing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 18:39
I reckons those bastards are reading this forum and doing this just to mess with us.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 09 May 2013, 19:21
I'm 2324 but nothing shows at the order tracking site.  Has only been a week since I ordered...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 May 2013, 19:37
Everyone needs to chill :cool: I don't think anyone will get a proper confirmed build date until the very earliest w/c27th may.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 09 May 2013, 19:47
Agree with mcmaddy, whilst im obviously wanting it asap (and anyone who know's me will tell you i'm not know for my patience), it will be here when its here. The good news is as the dealer agreed to fix the part ex price until the car is delivered, im paying more off the Scirocco each month so my colateral in the car is actualy going up, so less money for me to have to pull from my savings account to pay the deposit.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 May 2013, 19:56
Same here norbreck. fixed trade in and I'm also very very impatient. to be honest if I'd known on 2nd April I wouldn't be in the car until julember sometime I may have had 2nd thoughts. I naively thought that as the VW website said on sale June I would have the car for June   :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 09 May 2013, 20:03
You mean you actually believed something that was on VW's website......how naive of you   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 09 May 2013, 20:49
Mid 2317's for me. i'm resigned to the fact I won't get mine before July, it it comes in Aug i'm waiting until Sept for it. Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 09 May 2013, 20:59
I'm 2317 and still nothing  :cry:

Same here 2317
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 09 May 2013, 21:02
I originally said that I wanted my car for Sept 1st 63 reg. The exec then said don't be daft it will arrive end may start June and you can enjoy it over the summer, take it then. So we agreed.

Lesson in how to mismanage a customers expectations lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 09 May 2013, 21:05
Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 09 May 2013, 21:10
Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:

You know you can claim this back (the difference) when you take delivery of your new car? Your dealer should arrange it all for you.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 09 May 2013, 21:15
Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:

You know you can claim this back (the difference) when you take delivery of your new car? Your dealer should arrange it all for you.

Yeah, just a pain to tax a car that you want gone  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 09 May 2013, 21:21
I originally said that I wanted my car for Sept 1st 63 reg. The exec then said don't be daft it will arrive end may start June and you can enjoy it over the summer, take it then. So we agreed.

Lesson in how to mismanage a customers expectations lol

Ye cos the 'Exec's' are highly competent, highly trust worthy, conscientious and knowledgeable division of the VW group?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 09 May 2013, 21:34
I originally said that I wanted my car for Sept 1st 63 reg. The exec then said don't be daft it will arrive end may start June and you can enjoy it over the summer, take it then. So we agreed.

Lesson in how to mismanage a customers expectations lol

Ye cos the 'Exec's' are highly competent, highly trust worthy, conscientious and knowledgeable division of the VW group?

Yes that's them lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 09 May 2013, 21:39
Tax due on my gt golf in July, not heard of a build date at all yet....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 09 May 2013, 21:52
Everyone needs to chill :cool: I don't think anyone will get a proper confirmed build date until the very earliest w/c27th may.

Well yes, but you know each day feels like a week and we can't resist posting as if our collective anticipation will somehow lend extra speed to the Wolfsburg robots... :whistle:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:

Yeah, those DVLA assholes. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 09 May 2013, 22:09
I ordered mine 5 weeks ago but it may aswell have been 5 months or 5 years  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 09 May 2013, 23:51
I reckon the first part of the code 2317, 2318,2319 etc responds to a week number of the year.

I've been playing with the order status site and its pretty easy to see the status of any order by modifying the first part of the code followed by sequentially changing the last 4 digits.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 08:02
Car tax due on the Scirocco 1st June. :angry:

Me too, reminder from dvla arrived today  :angry:

You know you can claim this back (the difference) when you take delivery of your new car? Your dealer should arrange it all for you.

Yep, you can claim for whole unused months - it's still a pain to shell out £125 and then chasing up the DVLA for possibly 11/12 of it back (more likely 9/12).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 10 May 2013, 08:13
I reckon the first part of the code 2317, 2318,2319 etc responds to a week number of the year.

I've been playing with the order status site and its pretty easy to see the status of any order by modifying the first part of the code followed by sequentially changing the last 4 digits.

Pauliem

If that is the case then how do you square my order number starting with 2321? If you take the 21 as week 21 then that's in the future (w/c 20 May). I ordered my car 10 April so my order number should read 2315.

Hummm the plot thickens.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Squit on 10 May 2013, 08:20
First four digits probably denote the expected year of delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 10 May 2013, 08:25
Well, I proved my theory wrong by looking at every order from 0700 upwards and managing to find the correct prefix.  Couldn't find the significance of the 1st part but most of the orders in this range are still processing, although some have been built and delivered.  Mainly Up! and Golf orders have been satisfied.

Only saw a couple of GTIs in the list, quite a few more GTDs.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 08:37
Pauliem: You're a VW order stalker!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 08:55
Just done some order stalking after checking my order out. An order for a Passat highline going to my dealership group , 40 digits after my order is in "confirmed build week" status, and according to the frequently asked questions within this status, the "build week confirmed" status is generally applied 4 weeks before the actual build takes place (to allow VW to ensure they have all required parts for your "bespoke" order). By that info, if the earliest order placers amongst us get a build week confirmation in week 23, it'll be week 27 before build commences, probably week 30 by the time it is in the UK/at the dealership for pick-up (W/C 22 July). Perhaps due to the wait already (held status) GTD/GTI orders won't take 4 weeks to get built after status change.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 10 May 2013, 09:03
Nothing wrong with a bit of stalking  :evil:

I was actually reading the source of the javascript to see if I could see where it was collecting the information from.  But it is a server side process and there are no clues in the source.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 May 2013, 09:06
Nothing wrong with a bit of stalking  :evil:

I was actually reading the source of the javascript to see if I could see where it was collecting the information from.  But it is a server side process and there are no clues in the source.

I have no idea what any of that means  :shocked:  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 10 May 2013, 14:42
Just spoken to vw customer services .....
They said that delivery will be mid Sept.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 15:02
I'm sorry but that's totally unacceptable! I ordered mine the same day as yours and I'm not waiting until mid September for mine. Talk about false advertising?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 10 May 2013, 15:03
When did you order yours roo1?

Paid my deposit the day order books opened on 26/3
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 15:06
When did you order yours roo1?

Paid my deposit the day order books opened on 26/3

I'll be cancelling mine then. I'm not prepared to wait that long.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 10 May 2013, 15:07
I'm past caring about delivery now to be honest - if it's after September, great, it's a "63" plate car, which actually makes no difference to me anyway given it will be going on a private plate.  It also means I'll be able to save up a healthy chunk prior to starting payments on it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: p3asa on 10 May 2013, 15:10
6 months from order to delivery. Its a fair wait but then if everyone is waiting the same then its not really a hardship!!

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 May 2013, 15:11
When did you order yours roo1?

Paid my deposit the day order books opened on 26/3

I'll be cancelling mine then. I'm not prepared to wait that long.

Instead of cancelling, why not use this as a bargaining chip to get some money off/extras added for nothing.  If it doesn't work then if you can still sack if off should you still feel that way.  But if it was me I'd be getting some options added on for nothing!

P1ss poor from VW though, you GTD boys were told June delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 10 May 2013, 15:19
If you've already haggled a discount, good luck with trying to get extra freebies!  The build and delivery is what it is - it's a new car, clearly there have been issues, and we are all in the same boat.  If you TRULY want the car, you'll be kicking yourself when people start taking delivery.  Not sure what canceling gains, other than a chunk of money in the bank and keeping buyers remorse at bay!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 10 May 2013, 15:20
I've opened a complaint log with vw  :smiley: let's see where this goes.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 10 May 2013, 15:31
When did you order yours roo1?

Paid my deposit the day order books opened on 26/3

I'll be cancelling mine then. I'm not prepared to wait that long.

I agree with Gryzor. It's taken so long already, you get past caring about delivery.  I've basically shoved it in the back of mind & focused on something else! September will roll round quicker than you think... I mean can you believe it's May already!! It only felt like we got over Christmas last week.  :grin:

Mind you it doesn't help when your friends & family keep asking... "Have you got your New Car yet?" & "Why is taking so long?" You just want to slap them round the Chops!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: tuscan on 10 May 2013, 15:56
I had an email yesterday saying the latest I will recieve the car is August but they are hoping for that date to come forward.  So many conflicting stories!  Arghhh!   :sad: :angry: :laugh: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 10 May 2013, 16:02
When I drive it off the dealers forecourt, that's the day I get my new GTI! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 10 May 2013, 16:27
I've basically shoved it in the back of mind & focused on something else! September will roll round quicker than you think...

I'm am trying to the same thing but I'm finding it very, very, very, did I say very, difficult to ignore the fact that I still have know idea when I'll be getting my new car.

Still not heard a dicky bird from my dealer. Last time I spoke to them they basically said nothing will happen until BW 22-23. Gonna be tough for me to resist calling them until then!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 10 May 2013, 16:47
I've opened a complaint log with vw  :smiley: let's see where this goes.

ROO1, Create a new thread when you start hearing any news about your complaint. Be good to hear what pearls of wisdom VW Customer Service come out with. This whole build week business is a shambles.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 May 2013, 17:03
I don't know how you chaps can put it to the back of your minds - I literally can't wait - I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

(and yes, it was awesome!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 10 May 2013, 17:05
I don't know how you chaps can put it to the back of your minds - I literally can't wait - I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

(and yes, it was awesome!)
Haha, sounds like a good dream!  I can't wait either and am dead excited, but, nothing I can do will speed up delivery!  So, just gotta' get on with it and look forward to the moment you drive it away and know you are in a rather exclusive car :)

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 10 May 2013, 17:07
- I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

And what about the car?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 May 2013, 17:07
- I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

And what about the car?

 :grin: :grin: that made me LOL!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 10 May 2013, 17:37
I don't know how you chaps can put it to the back of your minds - I literally can't wait - I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

(and yes, it was awesome!)

How does it handle in the wet?? :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 10 May 2013, 17:49
I don't know how you chaps can put it to the back of your minds - I literally can't wait - I even dreamt about getting it last night  :laugh:

(and yes, it was awesome!)

How does it handle in the wet?? :lipsrsealed:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/15909afcfb242c98bc0d75a8cd862b76/tumblr_mit3jzpZqB1qld3ljo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 10 May 2013, 18:15
Just had an email from my dealer, my build is showing Week 34 (19th Aug) but it hasn't been confirmed yet so could still change back or forward. :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 18:36
Instead of cancelling, why not use this as a bargaining chip to get some money off/extras added for nothing.  If it doesn't work then if you can still sack if off should you still feel that way.  But if it was me I'd be getting some options added on for nothing!

P1ss poor from VW though, you GTD boys were told June delivery.

Good luck with trying for freebies. Who would fund them, VW or the dealer? Not the dealers fault - look at the info out there, website says they'll be on sale in the UK in June, dealers not told any different. If anything the dealers will be most pissed off by this - for those with p/x, for every month VW are later than anticipated your 2/3 year old Roc/Golf is depreciating, at maybe £250 a month. My Roc value was agreed at £15500, it would probably be on the forecourt right now for £18k. By the time Aug comes around, correct forecourt price will probably be £17k. The dealership expects to make more than 10% on a nearly new used VW.

VW UK are particularly tight with goodwill and useless at resolving customer issues. After my MK5 Golf was clattered by a bus and Benfield took 8 weeks to do a 2 week repair, they left it
1. with the brakes in a dangerous condition.
2. with a paint job so thin and compromised galvanisation so the repair rusted every 3 months
3. with missing items from my boot that were never seen again
4. with the car interior covered in black handprints on the rooflining and metal swarf (from cutting in the new rear quarter) all over the interior.

Some of these issues weren't noticed completely until the following day aas it was pitch black and lashing it down when I picked my car up (I did note the missing items at time of pick-up).

VW UK were involved and I wrote some pretty strong letters of complaint. My goodwill gesture was that VW UK put pressure on to Benfield to offer me a free valet (paid for by Benfield). Apart from remedial paint/rust repairs on the rear quarter panel every 3 months until I got shot of it, I wouldn't let them near the interior again. VW UK said I was stubborn and tried to close my case as "customer satisfied with the outcome". I wrote to VW Germany after that and they were horrified. They gave me 1000 euros compensation for my issues with Benfield and VW UK. You will get short shrift from VW UK for a later than anticipated order.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 18:39
Right now i'm glad that i'm happy with my car and it doesn't have any impending costs such as replacement tyres (OK I need a tax disc, but I will get most of that back).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 10 May 2013, 18:49
Instead of cancelling, why not use this as a bargaining chip to get some money off/extras added for nothing.  If it doesn't work then if you can still sack if off should you still feel that way.  But if it was me I'd be getting some options added on for nothing!

P1ss poor from VW though, you GTD boys were told June delivery.

Good luck with trying for freebies. Who would fund them, VW or the dealer? Not the dealers fault - look at the info out there, website says they'll be on sale in the UK in June, dealers not told any different. If anything the dealers will be most pissed off by this - for those with p/x, for every month VW are later than anticipated your 2/3 year old Roc/Golf is depreciating, at maybe £250 a month. My Roc value was agreed at £15500, it would probably be on the forecourt right now for £18k. By the time Aug comes around, correct forecourt price will probably be £17k. The dealership expects to make more than 10% on a nearly new used VW.

VW UK are particularly tight with goodwill and useless at resolving customer issues. After my MK5 Golf was clattered by a bus and Benfield took 8 weeks to do a 2 week repair, they left it
1. with the brakes in a dangerous condition.
2. with a paint job so thin and compromised galvanisation so the repair rusted every 3 months
3. with missing items from my boot that were never seen again
4. with the car interior covered in black handprints on the rooflining and metal swarf (from cutting in the new rear quarter) all over the interior.

Some of these issues weren't noticed completely until the following day aas it was pitch black and lashing it down when I picked my car up (I did note the missing items at time of pick-up).

VW UK were involved and I wrote some pretty strong letters of complaint. My goodwill gesture was that VW UK put pressure on to Benfield to offer me a free valet (paid for by Benfield). Apart from remedial paint/rust repairs on the rear quarter panel every 3 months until I got shot of it, I wouldn't let them near the interior again. VW UK said I was stubborn and tried to close my case as "customer satisfied with the outcome". I wrote to VW Germany after that and they were horrified. They gave me 1000 euros compensation for my issues with Benfield and VW UK. You will get short shrift from VW UK for a later than anticipated order.

When my Audi A1 was 12 weeks late I got it for 17200 instead of 20500. Depends on your negotiation skills I guess
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 20:04
Top and bottom of it is we were supposed to get delivery in June. Clearly that's not going to happen so someone needs to be taken outside from either vw Germany or VW UK or even better both and dragged round the car park behind a Toureg. They've known all along that no gti or gtd would be delivered in June so its false advertising. If they'd said order books open march for delivery in September then fine, at least we knew up front.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: evo1986 on 10 May 2013, 20:13
To be honest no one should of expected customer deliveries in June. It was clear from the start that only pre production demo cars were to be built before week 22 to be on site for the on sale date of June. That means on sale for people to see and drive not for customers to take delivery of.

Your individual dealers are the ones who have done the usual thing of over promising and under delivering. VW uk have never promised customer deliveries for June so don't expect anything from them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 10 May 2013, 20:13
Chill everyone, just chill.

It'll be here when it's here.
Be safe in the knowledge you'll be one of the first in the UK to own a mk 7 GTI. :drool: :drool:

Mines still showing week 25 .
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 21:01
To be honest no one should of expected customer deliveries in June. It was clear from the start that only pre production demo cars were to be built before week 22 to be on site for the on sale date of June. That means on sale for people to see and drive not for customers to take delivery of.

Your individual dealers are the ones who have done the usual thing of over promising and under delivering. VW uk have never promised customer deliveries for June so don't expect anything from them.


The fact VW UK have on sale June means nothing then? It's still misleading at best. Nothing to do with dealerships its VW UK.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 10 May 2013, 21:03
To be honest no one should of expected customer deliveries in June. It was clear from the start that only pre production demo cars were to be built before week 22 to be on site for the on sale date of June. That means on sale for people to see and drive not for customers to take delivery of.

Your individual dealers are the ones who have done the usual thing of over promising and under delivering. VW uk have never promised customer deliveries for June so don't expect anything from them.


The fact VW UK have on sale June means nothing then? It's still misleading at best. Nothing to do with dealerships its VW UK.

Agreed.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 10 May 2013, 21:19
I do remember when I was a little boy.

I soooo wanted Christmas to be tomorrow.

 :wink:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 10 May 2013, 21:44
How long do the dealers need to hang on to the demo's?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 10 May 2013, 21:47
30-40 seconds.

To the highest bidder. :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 22:08
3 months is usually the demo time scales. I know that no amount of complaining will make it come any quicker its just highly annoying. Never know once wk22 arrives and they allocate builds we might be pleasantly surprised. Hang on who the hell am I trying to kid  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 10 May 2013, 22:46
Do any of you know if the dealers are putting on any special "launch" days for prospective buyers or will it be a very low key affair?? Can't remember how they launched the Mk6?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 10 May 2013, 22:56
I got my build date today. I called my dealer for something else actually.

It is Week 36 (September 2, 2013   to September 8, 2013)

She said that my build week was initially in week 40 something week (I can't remember now), so its been pushed forward. She said it takes about 4 - 6 weeks from then.

I'm looking at early October 2013 I reckon.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 10 May 2013, 23:17
It's quite funny reading through this topic now.  We're 38 pages in and despite the fact nobody has a confirmed build date, a lot of us are already to march on VW UK headquarters   :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 23:19
Really can't see the point of launch days for the GTI and GTD. They've already sold allocation well towards the end of the year, those that order at launch because they heard about it through the launch will have to wait even longer. These cars clearly sell themselves early on.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 23:20
I got my build date today. I called my dealer for something else actually.

It is Week 36 (September 2, 2013   to September 8, 2013)

She said that my build week was initially in week 40 something week (I can't remember now), so its been pushed forward. She said it takes about 4 - 6 weeks from then.

I'm looking at early October 2013 I reckon.

Have you ordered a gti?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 23:22
Really can't see the point of launch days for the GTI and GTD. They've already sold allocation well towards the end of the year, those that order at launch because they heard about it through the launch will have to wait even longer. These cars clearly sell themselves early on.


I bet they still will though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 23:23
With so much misinformation flying around (or lack of real information) between VW UK and the dealerships and a useless build tracker (lets hope it starts working from BW22) I would take every quoted build date with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 10 May 2013, 23:26
For those who have "got" a build date it would be useful to know when you ordered it, what equipment you have ordered and whether it is a GTD or GTI. Could be that GTIs are coming later than GTDs (or vice-versa), or maybe certain colours (Oryx White?) or equipment (Sun Roof?) hold things up. There may be a pattern to it, or it may be completely random.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 10 May 2013, 23:31
I got my build date today. I called my dealer for something else actually.

It is Week 36 (September 2, 2013   to September 8, 2013)

She said that my build week was initially in week 40 something week (I can't remember now), so its been pushed forward. She said it takes about 4 - 6 weeks from then.

I'm looking at early October 2013 I reckon.

Have you ordered a gti?

Yes a GTI, DSG. Sorry I didn't say. Actually I had ordered my car with a local dealer on 28th March, and was promised delivery in July. But then I got a really good dealer with another dealer and so cancelled. I ordered with the better deal dealership end of April, basically a month later.

I knew I would have to take a hit on the delivery time, but I saved around £1650 more.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 10 May 2013, 23:31
For those who have "got" a build date it would be useful to know when you ordered it, what equipment you have ordered and whether it is a GTD or GTI. Could be that GTIs are coming later than GTDs (or vice-versa), or maybe certain colours (Oryx White?) or equipment (Sun Roof?) hold things up. There may be a pattern to it, or it may be completely random.

I was just thinking exactly the same. Could be dealer allocation that means people are getting wildly different dates and obviously we need to remember that more than just us on here could have ordered gti's/gtd's. I think myself and maisbitt could be one of the exceptions as we both know when and how many cars have gone from our dealer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 May 2013, 08:30
Want to start another thread to collect some info?

Suggestions:

Anything else?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 11 May 2013, 08:44
Just had e-mail from dealer saying

I have  now been given a provisional build week of week 25, which is late June.  Assuming this doesn't change I would imagine the car will be here for late July.

I don't know if after all these forum posts, I can hold any faith in that.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 May 2013, 08:49
I still can't see how dealers can be giving build weeks when it appears VW in Germany haven't decided yet. 25 sounds promising though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 09:11
If my dealer hasn't heard anything by the start of week 23 and the tracker isn't updated with a build week by then i'll be on the phone to VW UK to see if they can shed some light. So what else will we have to talk about for the next 3 weeks?  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 09:21
When my Audi A1 was 12 weeks late I got it for 17200 instead of 20500. Depends on your negotiation skills I guess

Depends on the circumstance of your lateness and Audi being more interested in keeping UK customers happier than VW are.

Our GTI/GTD aren't officially late until they fail to arrive within a set period from allocated build week (i'm guessing somewhere in the region of 6 weeks?). As none of us have had an officially confirmed build week (visible on the tracker or a document that says what or build week - I don't consider a conversation with a VW UK rep over the phone to be "official") then they can't be held viable for lateness.

Was your A1 12 weeks later than a confirmed delivery date? With the level of discount given it sounds like Audi sanctioned that rather than the dealership. £3300 off a £20.5k car amounts to about 70% of a dealership's profit in the car. I would guess that 12 weeks late (corresponding to average lead time on a car) implies that your car was wrecked or considered unsuitable somewhere down the line and you got a new one built from scratch, or Audi somehow lost your order. Good result either way.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 09:26
Want to start another thread to collect some info?

Suggestions:
  • GTI/GTD
  • Order date
  • Estimated build week
  • Confirmed build week
  • Order x/x from dealer if known
  • Options, especially if DSG, satnav, paint

Anything else?

Why not just update the spec thread with the additional information? Are you just talking about the first 4 digits of the order number as i don't think i want to put the whole of my one on the interweb? :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 11 May 2013, 09:28
Want to start another thread to collect some info?

Suggestions:
  • GTI/GTD
  • Order date
  • Estimated build week
  • Confirmed build week
  • Order x/x from dealer if known
  • Options, especially if DSG, satnav, paint

Anything else?

Could just add the extra details to the spec thread as it has most of the other info on your list?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 09:30
Want to start another thread to collect some info?

Suggestions:
  • GTI/GTD
  • Order date
  • Estimated build week
  • Confirmed build week
  • Order x/x from dealer if known
  • Options, especially if DSG, satnav, paint

Anything else?

Aye, lets get it done. I would have a separate options and colour category.

I would expect Oryx White to be by far the rarest colour and most likely to cause a delay, followed by Limestone Grey (not seen one on the road or in the dealerships on a standard MK7 and Night blue (maybe no impact, it's not that rare on a standard MK7, although there probably won't be many GTI/GTDs with it.

Options that I would expect would potentially delay the build are Sunroof, ACC (will be a far more popular GTI/GTD option than standard MK7, but still comparatively rare), lane assist (can't see many MK7 owners across the range stumping up £520 for it). DSG if there are any known current supply issues (my dealer implied there aren't when I considered this on my dad's car).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 May 2013, 09:47
I've updated my entry on the Spec thread. If everyone does that with the build week we've all been told then we can compare order date with build week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 10:07
    Model:GTD
    VW UK input acknowledgement date: 30 March 2013
    Estimated build week: Week 22-24
    Confirmed build week: Who knows?
    Order 2317, first GTI/GTD order from Pulman Sunderland
    Options: None
    Colour: Tornado Red
    Changes to original order: DBP paint change to TR - shouldn't have an impact on build time.

I think I have a fair chance of being one of the earliest recipients - basic spec, common colour and first   order placed with my dealer.

OOPS! Wrong place to put it.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 10:13
I've updated mine and the original post by mr GTD for future reference, i don't think you need to add the acknowledgement date cos not everyone will know that only the people that have asked for it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 10:17
Jimble: I think order acknowledgement date is highly important. Your car hasn't been ordered with VW UK until that date. If you gave over a deposit to your dealer for your new GTI/GTD on 01 March and VW UK didn't accept the order until March 27th (when the books officially opened?) you're no further forward in the queue than someone who ordered on March 27th and their order was accepted by VW UK same day (if there is a logical queue :drool:).

If your dealer has emailed you (as a PDF) or posted you your order confirmation form it will have the order acknowledgement date and your tracking number.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 10:24
Like i said though not everyone has got that date, only the people that have had concerns, feel free to add it if you like but i wouldn't expect everyone to including myself.

Also could you do me a favour and just update your original posts in the spec thread please mate rather than adding new ones? Once you've done it i'll delete the new ones.

Cheers

 :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 10:34
Jimble: Done! I didn't think I would be able to modify a message so old. Other forums I have been on only let you modify your last message.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 11:10
Jimble: Done! I didn't think I would be able to modify a message so old. Other forums I have been on only let you modify your last message.


Thanks mate!  ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 11 May 2013, 13:40
I've updated mine and the original post by mr GTD for future reference...

Just noticed your updated spec details. Looks like we've both ordered 5 door GTi's (DSG) with PP & DCC in Pure White around the same time (you a day earlier than me).

However there does appear to be a significant difference between our 'estimated' build weeks (27 vs 35), possibly due to the other optional extras you've ordered. I'm guessing it's most likely the 'Pano Roof'??? (Could be talking a load of old rubbish mind you)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 13:56
Pano roof was the cause of huge delays for the Scirocco. They were low or out of some key components for about 7 months. At a time when Rocs were routinely being belted out in 11 weeks, some unlucky soul on my old forum waited 38 weeks for his!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 May 2013, 14:14
I fly back from Switzerland tonight so tomorrow I will do some analysis of the updates info in the spec sticky.  If enough of us have updatedrour posts that is.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 11 May 2013, 14:39
Had a look on the tracker for a laugh, but it can't retrieve my details ("503 service unavailable"). It can retrieve the details on some random non GTI/GTD orders I inputted though - updates imminent? It's probably just changing my paint colour officially rather than giving me an accurate build date! :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 May 2013, 15:04
The tracker has been playing up the last few days, a lot of the time it's been unavailable. I'm going to take this as a good sign that they're updating it for all our build weeks!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 11 May 2013, 15:31
I've updated mine and the original post by mr GTD for future reference...

Just noticed your updated spec details. Looks like we've both ordered 5 door GTi's (DSG) with PP & DCC in Pure White around the same time (you a day earlier than me).

However there does appear to be a significant difference between our 'estimated' build weeks (27 vs 35), possibly due to the other optional extras you've ordered. I'm guessing it's most likely the 'Pano Roof'??? (Could be talking a load of old rubbish mind you)

It may be the roof or the that i added the PP at a later date, can't remember the date mind? :embarrassed:
I've mentioned previously that it's not a massive issue for me with it being a little longer as i didn't want it till sept 1st anyway, it just means another couple of weeks wait if it doesn't come forward a little, tbf though i'm not really gonna suffer driving my mk6 for a couple more weeks! :grin:

I know a few of the guys are getting a little annoyed which is fair enough but i waited 6 months for my current car when the same sort of thing happened with the mk6 orders, so nothing new to me!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 11 May 2013, 19:38
I'm in no rush either.

I'll be really, really sad to see my mk6 go.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 12 May 2013, 20:16
I bet we'll get to 100 pages by Sept lol
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 12 May 2013, 20:21
I bet we'll get to 100 pages by Sept lol

I'm on page 9... you can change the settings to show 50 posts per page. :whistle:

EDIT: I bet we STILL get to 100 pages by sept heh heh
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 13 May 2013, 08:00
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 May 2013, 10:56
Wk27 is the worst possible time for me so I hope not!  Its still a long time away, but not long enough to get the 63 plates or to save enough to significantly reduce the amount I need to borrow.  Most of the wait and no benefit. :angry:

I want it now or September...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 13 May 2013, 11:14
Mine is due to be built this week, going by the info the dealers gave me a couple of weeks ago. I'll keep you guys posted on what I hear!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 13 May 2013, 11:15
Bill: I'm in the exact same situation. Unless the car is coming mid Aug I don't think the dealer would be too pleased to keep it until Sep 1st.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 13 May 2013, 14:08
Well, had confirmation that the Wife's new Polo Blue GT will be arriving at the dealer approx 5th July, and have had no issues what so ever asking them to keep it until my GTD turns up (most likely mid to late September), so shouldn't be a problem ?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 May 2013, 14:33
Well, had confirmation that the Wife's new Polo Blue GT will be arriving at the dealer approx 5th July, and have had no issues what so ever asking them to keep it until my GTD turns up (most likely mid to late September), so shouldn't be a problem ?

She doesn't get her new car for months just because you can't have yours yet? That's so tight. Also it will be sat there getting filthy and dented in the tiny spaces in the dealership compound.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 13 May 2013, 14:36
Well, had confirmation that the Wife's new Polo Blue GT will be arriving at the dealer approx 5th July, and have had no issues what so ever asking them to keep it until my GTD turns up (most likely mid to late September), so shouldn't be a problem ?

She doesn't get her new car for months just because you can't have yours yet? That's so tight. Also it will be sat there getting filthy and dented in the tiny spaces in the dealership compound.

Yeah, I;'m a ba5tard aren't I  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Seriously, it was the wife's idea to take both cars on the same day, however now we know that hers will be some months ahead of mine, we are thinking, like you mention, that it won't be a good idea to leave it at a dealership for that time, so will probably take hers early in July.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 May 2013, 14:41
Yeah, I;'m a ba5tard aren't I  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Seriously, it was the wife's idea to take both cars on the same day, however now we know that hers will be some months ahead of mine, we are thinking, like you mention, that it won't be a good idea to leave it at a dealership for that time, so will probably take hers early in July.

Yeah, get her's delivered and let her drive you around while you look fed up and moan that your car isn't going to be available for ages.  Then, when she is feeling really sorry for you mention how some cookies/backrub/beer (delete word which do not apply) would cheer you up and bob's your uncle. :whistle:

Seriously, this works very well. :evil:

PS: Oh dear, this makes ME the ba5tard doesn't it?  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 13 May 2013, 14:53
Nice idea Bill, but clearly you don't know my wife. She's hard as nails and not easily swayed by trivialities like that  :grin: :grin:

She is a bank manager after all !
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 May 2013, 16:52
In hindsight this:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=253044.msg2327126#msg2327126

and this:
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=253044.msg2327137#msg2327137

probably belong here.

Summary is, I'm itching to try a smash and grab raid on the VW order tracker site when they post the BW data.  That gives me 2-3 weeks for a feasibility study. heh heh heh
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 13 May 2013, 17:43
Had a chat with my dealer today. Still can't understand why my order for a standard GTD white 3dr has been given a build week of 32...neither can they but its true. I ordered early to no ovail.  She did say that GTI's will arrive much sooner and they have 3 black GTI's arriving very soon. Anyone else going with Stoke vw?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 13 May 2013, 18:00
German dealers already have cars, and so do some owners.

I think later this week, we will have build weeks.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 13 May 2013, 18:09
German dealers already have cars, and so do some owners.

I think later this week, we will have build weeks.

Dave

http://files.vau-max.de/images/2013/04/vw-golf-7-gti-performance-werk-wob-produktion.jpg
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 May 2013, 18:18
German dealers already have cars, and so do some owners.

I think later this week, we will have build weeks.

Dave

http://files.vau-max.de/images/2013/04/vw-golf-7-gti-performance-werk-wob-produktion.jpg

That is my car, wheels & everything! I like! So where is the UK stock then?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 13 May 2013, 18:23
German dealers already have cars, and so do some owners.

I think later this week, we will have build weeks.

Dave

http://files.vau-max.de/images/2013/04/vw-golf-7-gti-performance-werk-wob-produktion.jpg

That is my car, wheels & everything! I like! So where is the UK stock then?!

We're a small island with no power anymore
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 May 2013, 19:13
Was watching TV and it goes to the adverts so I get on with a bit of my new project when suddenly I hear:

"GTI IS BACK!"

Huh?  I look up expecting to see the first ad and.... WHAT? Peugeot?  FFS this is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 13 May 2013, 19:15
Was watching TV and it goes to the adverts so I get on with a bit of my new project when suddenly I hear:

"GTI IS BACK!"

Huh?  I look up expecting to see the first ad and.... WHAT? Peugeot?  FFS this is getting ridiculous.

 :laugh: :laugh: :sick:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 13 May 2013, 19:22
Had a chat with my dealer today. Still can't understand why my order for a standard GTD white 3dr has been given a build week of 32...neither can they but its true. I ordered early to no ovail.  She did say that GTI's will arrive much sooner and they have 3 black GTI's arriving very soon. Anyone else going with Stoke vw?

Was there not a VW bulletin put up on here a while ago that suggested the actual "on sale"date for the GTD was early August?  I've always been under the impression that the GTD was going to be after the GTI, so wasn't surprised my provisional build week was later than the GTI orders.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 13 May 2013, 20:43
Varying dates have been bandied about from the press and mags but the on sale date was always June for the gtd according to the vw website.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jerseyal on 14 May 2013, 19:53
Ordered my gti on the 3rd of April here in Jersey on the Channel Isles got an order number but no build date as yet .My local salesman says it will be in the next week or so .Lets hope so !
.  Update on build week Went in to see my dealer on Sunday he said build week for my gti is week 24 not showing on the tracker so I'm living in hope !!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 May 2013, 20:08
Ordered my gti on the 3rd of April here in Jersey on the Channel Isles got an order number but no build date as yet .My local salesman says it will be in the next week or so .Lets hope so !
.  Update on build week Went in to see my dealer on Sunday he said build week for my gti is week 24 not showing on the tracker so I'm living in hope !!!

Could be hope for us yet if Jersey is treated in the same way as mainland UK, rather than like Ireland (who are already having theirs built (admittedly at greater cost and poorer standard spec).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 15 May 2013, 08:50
Build week 26 confirmed. Delivery by 28th of July  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 15 May 2013, 08:59
Build week 26 confirmed. Delivery by 28th of July  :smiley:

.......'stard, erm I mean Brilliant news mate  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 May 2013, 09:06
28th July, that's on the cusp of "do I pick it up now or ask the dealer to keep it until Sept 1st?".
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 May 2013, 09:15
28th July, that's on the cusp of "do I pick it up now or ask the dealer to keep it until Sept 1st?".

That all sounds great in theory until that date actually comes! ;)  All for the sake of a number on the reg plate...go private, it's far less bothersome (if slightly more expensive!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 May 2013, 09:24
Honestly, you guys are getting too hung up on number plates. 13 or 63 will be totally irrelevant come selling time, won't make a difference.  Take the car asap!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 May 2013, 09:29
Honestly, you guys are getting too hung up on number plates. 13 or 63 will be totally irrelevant come selling time, won't make a difference.  Take the car asap!  :laugh:

We all know it's nothing to do with resale value ;)  It's plate envy! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 15 May 2013, 10:01
Yeah I will be taking the car ASAP :smiley: Luckily here in N.Ireland no one knows if you have a 13 or a 63 plate due to the format of our number plates...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 10:16
I just think 13 looks sh!t is all. :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 May 2013, 10:31
I just think 13 looks sh!t is all. :tongue:

No one will be looking at the number plate Bear!  And you won't be able to see it from the drivers seat!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 15 May 2013, 10:43
I just think 13 looks sh!t is all. :tongue:

No one will be looking at the number plate Bear!  And you won't be able to see it from the drivers seat!!  :laugh:

He will see it when he's topping up his oil every few months  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 10:49
I just think 13 looks sh!t is all. :tongue:

No one will be looking at the number plate Bear!  And you won't be able to see it from the drivers seat!!  :laugh:

He will see it when he's topping up his oil every few months  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Good point mb.

And damn you Craig! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 15 May 2013, 10:56
Actually, although slightly off topic (apologies), talking about topping up oil, my Scirocco is my first with the CR (common rail) engine, and I have to say in 2½ years of ownership, I have never once - ever needed to top up my oil. It never moves between services. My older Golf 5 with the PD engine would regularly go through 1-1½ litres in between the annual services.

TBH, I know more mates with TSI and TFSI engines (especially Polo GTI) that drink oil much more than any diesel  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 11:02
Haha, we're talking about oil in like 3 different threads now! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 15 May 2013, 11:07
Haha, we're talking about oil in like 3 different threads now! :laugh:

It's a fluid subject. I'll get me coat
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 15 May 2013, 11:08
Haha, we're talking about oil in like 3 different threads now! :laugh:

It's a fluid subject. I'll get me coat

I see what you did there, very slick  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 15 May 2013, 11:29
These jokes are just getting terriboil now! :D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 15 May 2013, 12:15
Actually, although slightly off topic (apologies), talking about topping up oil, my Scirocco is my first with the CR (common rail) engine, and I have to say in 2½ years of ownership, I have never once - ever needed to top up my oil. It never moves between services. My older Golf 5 with the PD engine would regularly go through 1-1½ litres in between the annual services.

TBH, I know more mates with TSI and TFSI engines (especially Polo GTI) that drink oil much more than any diesel  :laugh:

Neither of my last 3 cars (including current Roc) have used a drop of oil between services - I have 3 x 1 ltr oil packs that came with those cars, untouched. The one before that however was the one ran in on motorway miles and was so thirsty for the oil it might as well have been 2 stroke.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 15 May 2013, 13:32
Did anyone else get a confirmed build week from their dealer today?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 15 May 2013, 13:35
Did anyone else get a confirmed build week from their dealer today?

Nope, when did you place your order?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 May 2013, 14:48
Ok, so as mk7gti was given an update today I thought I'd try my luck with VW on twitter.  Here is the (email) reply, and good news I've moved up a week from 27 to 26 (provisionally) woo hoo!

"Thank you for your contact in to our Twitter page regarding your Golf GTI order.
We have spoken with our Product Marketing Team and also our factory in Germany and can confirm your vehicle is scheduled to build in week 26 (w/c 24/06/2013).
At this stage the factory can not confirm to us a more definitive date to build your vehicle, we will have more information within the coming weeks which is why we quote 'lead times' to our retailer network. These lead times are the average build a specific vehicle can take and helps them to manage their customer expectations.
To ensure customers are being given the most up to date information possible, the factory and in tern Volkswagen UK quote the maximum lead time of 16 weeks for all newly released models. We do however, know your order will build and arrive in the UK before then.
When we place an order in our factory system it is given a scheduled build date which, until the factory confirm the build week is subject to change.  There can be many reasons for the change but for many it is purely capacity on the production line.
The likely hood of your vehicle moving from week 26 production is very low but until it is confirmed by the factory your retailer will be unable to commit to a delivery date. Once we know your vehicle's confirmed build date, an estimated delivery time can be arranged.

We appreciate this may not be the response you were hoping for and do understand our customers frustration when wanting more detailed information.
If you do require anymore information about lead times and how the Volkswagen supply chain works, it may be worth reading more on the link below to our Facebook page or speak with your retailer.

https://www.facebook.com/VolkswagenUK/app_362476440451045

Keep in touch with your retailer for an update on your order, once it is confirmed they'll be able to advise you.

Many Thanks

Social Media Customer Relations Team
Volkswagen UK Customer Services"

 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 May 2013, 15:35
Did anyone else get a confirmed build week from their dealer today?

Nope. Were we meant to???

Matchboys estimated build week 26 is however in line with what my dealer confirmed to me a couple of weeks back, so that's an encouraging development.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 15 May 2013, 16:55
Just been given my build week of 28.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 May 2013, 17:10
Just been given my build week of 28.

??? Are these definitely "Confimed" or Estimated??

It's good news if they're definitely Confimed  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Stocks23 on 15 May 2013, 17:17
I ordered a mk7 GTD in Tornado Red, 5 door, manual with no additional spec on May 7th and have been given a provisional build date of 12/08/2013.  :cry: . Certainly seems to me VW are holding back the GTD whilst they look to push out the GTI. On the plus side I suppose is that with delivery in September I will at least have the new plates...

Does anyone know roughly how long it is before you get a confirmed build week following order?

Thanks
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 17:20
If they are confirmed they will appear on the website.

Email in a post above stated that the factory would not confirm this early but that they are "unlikely" to move.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 15 May 2013, 17:26
They confirm 4 weeks before actual build date I think.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 May 2013, 17:32
They confirm 4 weeks before actual build date I think.

Correct, thought that doesn't tell us much.  :tongue:  To elaborate on AAddict's point, we don't know how long between ordering and building, but 4 weeks before building they "confirm" and some time before that they can "estimate" which is what most of us have now.  They do say the outside estimate is 16 weeks.  So when you order it should not be more than 12 weeks before you get the confirmed build week (in most cases).

Also, just because someone gets a confirmed built that is a long time away doesn't mean much.  Could be that the dealer already used much of their allocation, or perhaps you ordered something like DSG which has restricted supply.  I wouldn't read anything into a single case, we'd need a pattern to make such conclusions.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 May 2013, 17:34
Thanks for clearing that up Bear...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 15 May 2013, 18:00
Do certain dealers get priority on dates?

I was the first to take an allocation slot from my dealer however I am build week 32..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 15 May 2013, 22:17
I think it may be more to do with GTD's starting to get built later?  That build week puts you at roughly the same time as stocks23 who ordered 07/05/13.  I ordered my GTD on 02/05 but don't have an estimated date yet (was told to expect 16+ weeks)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 16 May 2013, 09:21
I think it may be more to do with GTD's starting to get built later?  That build week puts you at roughly the same time as stocks23 who ordered 07/05/13.  I ordered my GTD on 02/05 but don't have an estimated date yet (was told to expect 16+ weeks)

I've found the post that evo1986 made at the end of March.  It quotes a VW bulletin and says that the on sale date for the GTD is later than the GTI, so it makes sense that our GTD orders are getting later build weeks.

Quote
VW0336-13

...Open for ordering

Both the new GTI and GTD will open for ordering on 26 March, with the GTI going on sale on 18 June and the GTD a few weeks later on 5 August. We will update the volkswagen.co.uk car configurator and Connect Online to coincide with the open-for-order date.

We have ordered an initial batch of GTI and GTD models and we will let you know how these will be allocated to Retailers. An updated price list for the New Golf will also be available on the open-for-order dates and the publication will have full details of specification and equipment.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 09:44
I think its clear that VW won't be building any GTD's until the first batch of GTI's are done & dusted.  Sucks for GTD buyers, particularly those who ordered March/April.  Clearly, VW were happy to open the books for orders but not so clear about realistic delivery dates - stinks a bit really.  It's the same for the GTI (to a lesser extent) as most who ordered straight away were told BW22 and its looking like BW26 at the earliest - I know its a month, but still....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 May 2013, 09:49
I ordered a mk7 GTD in Tornado Red, 5 door, manual with no additional spec on May 7th and have been given a provisional build date of 12/08/2013.  :cry: . Certainly seems to me VW are holding back the GTD whilst they look to push out the GTI. On the plus side I suppose is that with delivery in September I will at least have the new plates...

Does anyone know roughly how long it is before you get a confirmed build week following order?

Thanks

If no GTDs are getting made for sale before Aug 5th and you ordered nigh-on 6 weeks after the earliest orders placed, you're not doing too badly in the grand scheme of things, the wait is long, but not ridiculously long (seemingly 15 or 16 weeks for you) They do say 4 weeks from scheduled notification to actual build week, but there is always the chance that if a GTI (or even a GTD) were to be made in week 24, it'll already be scheduled even if it won't be visible on the tracker until week 22 when MY14 is started.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 16 May 2013, 10:32
I think its clear that VW won't be building any GTD's until the first batch of GTI's are done & dusted.  Sucks for GTD buyers, particularly those who ordered March/April.  Clearly, VW were happy to open the books for orders but not so clear about realistic delivery dates - stinks a bit really.  It's the same for the GTI (to a lesser extent) as most who ordered straight away were told BW22 and its looking like BW26 at the earliest - I know its a month, but still....
You are probably right, but there is one other possibility.  With the ordering delays the GTI may have been effected but the GTD not (or less so) as it was always going to be later anyway.  If they can build at the same time then that may mean there is no (or less) delay to GTD.  They might end up being processed at about the same time.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 10:39
Sorry, should have clarified - I don't believe there will be any (major) delays to the GTD - I just don't think they will be built until July earliest, for an August delivery - which is not what some of you chaps were told.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Stocks23 on 16 May 2013, 11:00
Thanks for the all the responses guys  :smiley:. It seems all prospective GTD owners are in the same boat and facing the 16 week wait. If I'm honest a 2 week wait would've been too long so no matter what I was going to be impatient. On a positive note I really am impressed with the MK7 GTD and the spec of the new GTD really did surprise me. If you look at its competitors I would say it is industry leading with the items included as standard. I only went for the luxury mat set as additional. Would be interested to hear what other people went for?

If anyone is having trouble getting their proposed build date like I was I would recommend either contacting Volkswagen UK on twitter or emailing them at twitter@volkswagen.co.uk with your order number. This is how I got my proposed build date.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 11:09
I think the trouble is that (most) of us, myself included, are champing at the bit to get their new toy - so any delays are a killer!  Thing is, once we all get it you'll think 'that was soooo worth the wait!!'
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 May 2013, 11:21
Thanks for the all the responses guys  :smiley:. It seems all prospective GTD owners are in the same boat and facing the 16 week wait. If I'm honest a 2 week wait would've been too long so no matter what I was going to be impatient. On a positive note I really am impressed with the MK7 GTD and the spec of the new GTD really did surprise me. If you look at its competitors I would say it is industry leading with the items included as standard. I only went for the luxury mat set as additional. Would be interested to hear what other people went for?

Yup, any wait is a killer, so I'm just resigned to playing the pessimist for now!

I went for the GTI, as I fail to see the benefits of buying such an expensive brand new diesel if ongoing costs are a concern.  Plus, a GTD just isn't a GTI ;) I got the luxury mats too, but thrown in free. Separately I added Adaptive Chasis Control, Winter Pack, Keyless Entry, Discovery Nav, Reverse Camera and Heated Windscreen (plus mandatory Premium Phone Prep).

All things I don't have in my current Mk5, but have used and experienced in other cars.  As a keeper, I wanted the spec to be perfect, and this is as close as it gets for me as an overall package.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 May 2013, 12:15
Mats come free anyway. I don't know how all these build dates keep flying around on here. I've just spoken to VW and they say no build dates will be confirmed until wk22 which is w/c 27th May. Also said that gtd's won't be arriving after gti's in august. They are both on sale from June, with no priority over basic vanilla orders or specced to the hilt. If this is true (chap seemed to know what he was talking about) then great.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 May 2013, 12:21
Standard mats come free, luxury ones don't.  As for the build dates, I get the same from my dealer - nothing will be known until week 22, which as you say is w/c 27th May.  I have a note in my calendar to call that day to make sure the spec. is final and includes the Heated Screen that couldn't be added previously as it wasn't on the system even after the new price changes and brochure.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 16 May 2013, 12:33
Luxury mats or standard - they all wear away around the floor where you're operating pedals. I'll be whipping my front ones straight out and getting some rubber mats in there, they keep the car far tidier - good for the wet and have a generous lip that keeps the grit and dirt tracked in off your shoes in one place for easy removal. Do the standard mats have GTI or GTD logos on them seeing as only the GT, GTI and GTD have free carpet mats? Do the luxury ones (if the standard ones don't)? From past Golf/Roc luxury isn't much better than standard.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 16 May 2013, 12:38
I've just spoken to VW and they say no build dates will be confirmed until wk22 which is w/c 27th May. Also said that gtd's won't be arriving after gti's in august. They are both on sale from June, with no priority over basic vanilla orders or specced to the hilt. If this is true (chap seemed to know what he was talking about) then great.

I was told exactly the same thing by my dealer weeks ago - that we won't get any confirmed build weeks until w/c 27 May - 3 June (so BW 22-23). So what McMaddy says rings true.

Still a horrible wait though :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Stocks23 on 16 May 2013, 12:41
Mats come free anyway. I don't know how all these build dates keep flying around on here. I've just spoken to VW and they say no build dates will be confirmed until wk22 which is w/c 27th May. Also said that gtd's won't be arriving after gti's in august. They are both on sale from June, with no priority over basic vanilla orders or specced to the hilt. If this is true (chap seemed to know what he was talking about) then great.

All build dates mcmaddy are proposed and not confirmed. However these are more than likely to be pretty close to the confirmed dates. Good to hear that VW are saying no prioirty is being given between the GTI and GTD however the fact VW have promoted only the GTI in the press says otherwise.

In regards to mats il be honest I have no idea what is different between the luxury and standard matts. I do know however that the dealer I was ordering my GTD through was desperate to get a deal done (last day of month) and so I tried to squeeze everything out him I could  :tongue:.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 12:42
Build Weeks may not be confirmed until BW22 but they still should be able to give you a provisional date - that will be known, VW won't be suddenly allocating BW's on 27th May to everyone, they will have planned well in advance.  I know having a provisional date means nothing really, but it is nice to have it so you can dream about delivery day!  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 May 2013, 12:46
Luxury mats or standard - they all wear away around the floor where you're operating pedals. I'll be whipping my front ones straight out and getting some rubber mats in there, they keep the car far tidier - good for the wet and have a generous lip that keeps the grit and dirt tracked in off your shoes in one place for easy removal. Do the standard mats have GTI or GTD logos on them seeing as only the GT, GTI and GTD have free carpet mats? Do the luxury ones (if the standard ones don't)? From past Golf/Roc luxury isn't much better than standard.

Nah, I hate rubber mats in terms of look and feel.  Also never had carpet mats wear significantly either - the ones in my Mk5 GTI still look great when vacuumed and steam cleaned.  Not sure on logos on either though - think maybe the luxury ones have a Golf logo on them?  Anyways, being free I'm not fussed - will have a full set of standard spares at the very least!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 16 May 2013, 13:01
Luxury mats or standard - they all wear away around the floor where you're operating pedals. I'll be whipping my front ones straight out and getting some rubber mats in there, they keep the car far tidier - good for the wet and have a generous lip that keeps the grit and dirt tracked in off your shoes in one place for easy removal. Do the standard mats have GTI or GTD logos on them seeing as only the GT, GTI and GTD have free carpet mats? Do the luxury ones (if the standard ones don't)? From past Golf/Roc luxury isn't much better than standard.

Nah, I hate rubber mats in terms of look and feel.  Also never had carpet mats wear significantly either - the ones in my Mk5 GTI still look great when vacuumed and steam cleaned.  Not sure on logos on either though - think maybe the luxury ones have a Golf logo on them?  Anyways, being free I'm not fussed - will have a full set of standard spares at the very least!

Do the luxury mats come with the GTI logo on them?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 16 May 2013, 13:04
Do the luxury mats come with the GTI logo on them?

From the configurator...

Quote
These high quality, luxury carpet mats are made from hardwearing, thick-woven velour with an abrasion-proof coating on the rear side. They do not only improve the look of your Golf's interior with their white Golf lettering and edging but also protect it from dirt.

So yeah, as I suspected it is just a Golf logo.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 16 May 2013, 18:46
Just got word from my dealer - my car is being built today  :laugh:
He expects to see it arrive by end of the month. Wohooooo!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 16 May 2013, 19:14
Great news Joe!!  :smiley: I look forward to reading your review at the end of the month.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 19:33
Wow! Brilliant news Joe, can't wait to hear about how it drives!

Out of interest Joe, if you go on the order tracker is anything showing up on that?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 16 May 2013, 20:02
Wow! Brilliant news Joe, can't wait to hear about how it drives!

Out of interest Joe, if you go on the order tracker is anything showing up on that?

I can't find any order tracker on the Irish website and I don't have an order number anyway!

It's less than 6 weeks since I placed the order which isn't bad going I think.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 16 May 2013, 20:12
Spoke to the execs office today..GTD's will be built in August, no sooner, and that was always the plan. Misleading advertising?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 16 May 2013, 20:19
Wow! Brilliant news Joe, can't wait to hear about how it drives!

Out of interest Joe, if you go on the order tracker is anything showing up on that?

I can't find any order tracker on the Irish website and I don't have an order number anyway!

It's less than 6 weeks since I placed the order which isn't bad going I think.

It's unheard of! To say I'm jealous is an understatement!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 16 May 2013, 21:55
Spoke to the execs office today..GTD's will be built in August, no sooner, and that was always the plan. Misleading advertising?


What's the point in making them in august? Everyone will just wait until september for delivery. pi** up and brewery come to mind!! Not everyone has ordered a gti and the soon as VW realise this the better. Website still says on sale June and that's what VW told me today.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 16 May 2013, 23:06
Spoke to the execs office today..GTD's will be built in August, no sooner, and that was always the plan. Misleading advertising?

That's depressing news that ROO :cry:

What and who is the 'Execs Office'?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 17 May 2013, 07:58
I can't see why VW would want to make gtd customers wait until august. If the orders are placed then make them, just makes economic sense.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 May 2013, 10:01
I'm gonna engage in some wild mass guessing now and suggest we shouldn't believe anything they say no matter the source! :grin: :grin: :grin:

I think the GTDs and GTIs will probably arrive about the same time despite what they say and that this will be approximately August for the first bunch.  I'm not expecting mine before September.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 17 May 2013, 10:24
September delivery is good for me - part ex-value is guaranteed and I save up a whole chunk of cash in the meantime!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Stocks23 on 17 May 2013, 10:33
I think we can safely say Our GTD's will be arriving September at the earliest. Out of interest when you say your part ex price is guaranteed, is this something you have in writing from the dealer?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 17 May 2013, 10:41
As I mentioned in a previous post, my GTI is currently being built as we speak. I ordered it on April 8th. The dealer had ordered a GTD for stock/demo about 2-3 weeks before that and they tell me that the GTD is still "processing". It hasn't yet been allocated a build week!
This would tally up with you guys on here. It would seem that GTD orders are slower than GTI's.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 17 May 2013, 10:44
I think we can safely say Our GTD's will be arriving September at the earliest. Out of interest when you say your part ex price is guaranteed, is this something you have in writing from the dealer?

Yes, I have my order written down and signed by myself and the finance manager, which clearly states what they are giving me in part-ex.  They work on a 3 - 4 month lead time when valuing the car, but it's not my issue if it takes them much longer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 May 2013, 10:47
As I mentioned in a previous post, my GTI is currently being built as we speak. I ordered it on April 8th. The dealer had ordered a GTD for stock/demo about 2-3 weeks before that and they tell me that the GTD is still "processing". It hasn't yet been allocated a build week!
This would tally up with you guys on here. It would seem that GTD orders are slower than GTI's.

Yes but you are in Ireland. (you lucky ba5tard!) :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Sootchucker on 17 May 2013, 10:48
I did the same with Gryzor and made sure that part of the "deal" was that they honoured the part Ex price given to me in April for my Scirocco, no matter when the GTD arrives (August, September etc.). They are taking the risk that Scirocco price won't drop too far below what they can make money on, but to be honest that's their problem not mine.

And yes, I certainly have this in writing, even to the point where the dealer informed me that the deposit amount I would have to pay on the GTD would drop as I would have made additional payments on the Rocco in the meantime so my collateral in the car keeps increasing the longer they take to deliver the GTD.

It really is to their benefit to deliver my GTD ASAP to realise as much profit as possible on the Rocco.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 May 2013, 11:13
Norbreck21: It's in the dealership's interest to get you your GTD sooner to minimise depreciation on the P/X, but VW UK couldn't care either way. We really aren't going to know anything for sure until at least W/C 27 May when we may get a firm tracker update. Everything right now is hearsay from people at various stages in the supply chain that have an indication of what might happen. My P/X price is locked and like you all the time i'm without the GTD, my collateral in the current car is increasing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 17 May 2013, 20:04
Anyone else got wk 25 as a provisional build date?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 17 May 2013, 20:20
Anyone else got wk 25 as a provisional build date?

I wish, my provisional is week 34  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Champagne on 17 May 2013, 20:32
My dealer, Camberley, rang me today with a build date of week 28.
I have a TT lease running til Oct so ideally won't take delivery til Sept or Oct.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 17 May 2013, 23:40
Anyone else got wk 25 as a provisional build date?

I wish, my provisional is week 34  :angry:

Count your blessings... Mine is 36!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 18 May 2013, 15:35
My dealer, Camberley, rang me today with a build date of week 28.
I have a TT lease running til Oct so ideally won't take delivery til Sept or Oct.

I'm week 28 too, dealer txt me Friday to say still sitting on Wk28 and should stay that way now until confirmed. Fingers crossed!  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 18 May 2013, 19:49
It sounds like GolfTI will be the first UK member to get his car with a build week of 25. I'm week 26 but mine has to come a little further north...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 18 May 2013, 20:02
Anyone else got wk 25 as a provisional build date?

Week 26 as it stands at the moment,went from 23 to 26
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 18 May 2013, 20:04
I doubt if they will send one lonely GTI on its own.

The boat will be full of them.
Our build weeks aren't confirmed yet so may be delayed or brought forward by a week ( or two).

I am starting to get really excited now.

I think if delivery was on August 31st I'd still take it and not wait for the 63 plate. :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 18 May 2013, 20:28
26 last time I checked. With any luck we'll all get brought forward to 24 and they can all come over on the same boat!  Couldn't care less about the number plate, I'd take delivery tomorrow if it was available!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 18 May 2013, 20:44
I went to my local dealer today to see wtf on earth was happening with my car. Yes they told me the wait would be long. But I don't give a sh!t. I want it now if I'm being honest, waiting around isn't my strong point!

Anyway, GTD aside he said the demo GTI would be at the dealer by the end of this month.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 20 May 2013, 12:24
It sounds like GolfTI will be the first UK member to get his car with a build week of 25. I'm week 26 but mine has to come a little further north...

Just got a confirmed build week of 24!!!

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 May 2013, 12:37
It sounds like GolfTI will be the first UK member to get his car with a build week of 25. I'm week 26 but mine has to come a little further north...

Just got a confirmed build week of 24!!!

Dave

Can you tell us all when your order was accepted by VW UK (when you got your tracking number, if you got one) and what your spec is? I'm hoping that mine will also be early doors as I was first to order from my dealership (ordered 39th March, order processed and accepted by VW UK 30th March, standard spec 5DR). Hopefully my change in paint colour a few weeks ago hasn't bumped me down the queue.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 20 May 2013, 13:23
3 Door
DBP
Manual
Winter Pack
Dynaudio
Performance Pack (added later)

Order placed 01/04/13

Dealer sent me the order number on 05/04/13

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 May 2013, 14:52
Has your dealer confirmed this date or was it VW themselves?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 20 May 2013, 14:58
Has your dealer confirmed this date or was it VW themselves?

Indeed this is the question.  Because according to VW no build dates will be confirmed until next Monday.  It may well be provisional though, which means it will be unlikely to change - so lucky you!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 20 May 2013, 15:03
I looked on the VW tracker, and it now says build week confirmed, however it does not say which week.

I contacted the dealer then and they looked and came back with week 24.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 20 May 2013, 15:06
I looked on the VW tracker, and it now says build week confirmed, however it does not say which week.

I contacted the dealer then and they looked and came back with week 24.

Dave

So completely the opposite against what VW has told some of us!  :rolleyes: Thanks for the info Dave.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 20 May 2013, 15:10
My dealer e-mailed me on Saturday, and as of that date, there was no news of a build date, and told again that week 22 onwards is when we'll start to see some traction.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 May 2013, 15:43
I looked on the VW tracker, and it now says build week confirmed, however it does not say which week.

I contacted the dealer then and they looked and came back with week 24.

Dave

For the rest of us, not having an update on the tracker might not mean anything - we've all seen to varying degrees how sh!te it can be, from my Dad's number with the wrong colour assigned to the car to those whose order changes are not seen, to others whose tracking number doesn't work.  If time of ordering, your place within the dealership's allocation queue and few or no options has the biggest bearing then there are some here who should be also getting their cars built as soon as week 24 (I have a few days on you for order placed Dave)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 20 May 2013, 15:47
To be fair the dealer I'm ordering from is small(ish) and they are not part of a big group or anything, so probably more straight forward to order things?

Regarding the VW tracker, when I added the Performance Pack, a day later it was showing updated on the tracker (220 before 230 now).

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 20 May 2013, 16:39
Following a few e-mails, I just had a nice call from a lady at VW who is personally looking into things for me.  Apparently they couldn't even get into their own systems this morning, but she will call me back later this week with some more details about my order.  She backed up what others have said about the online tracker sometimes not showing until there is a confirmed build week, but to coin her phrase, "it's a bit flakey!" :grin:

I also got the contents of my entire order re-confirmed, because it turns out they made several errors when transposing the order information.  While my telephone number, mobile number, and house number were correct on the order printout I got from the dealer, the numbers she had in her system were incorrect.  Not sure why things needed inputting separately, but anyway, might be worth checking.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 May 2013, 16:47
Following a few e-mails, I just had a nice call from a lady at VW who is personally looking into things for me.  Apparently they couldn't even get into their own systems this morning, but she will call me back later this week with some more details about my order.  She backed up what others have said about the online tracker sometimes not showing until there is a confirmed build week, but to coin her phrase, "it's a bit flakey!" :grin:

I also got the contents of my entire order re-confirmed, because it turns out they made several errors when transposing the order information.  While my telephone number, mobile number, and house number were correct on the order printout I got from the dealer, the numbers she had in her system were incorrect.  Not sure why things needed inputting separately, but anyway, might be worth checking.

Good info!

Not sure whether to trust them of call them myself though.  I guess there is no way of knowing if our orders are right if we don't call and check!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 20 May 2013, 16:56
Good info!

Not sure whether to trust them of call them myself though.  I guess there is no way of knowing if our orders are right if we don't call and check!

Can't hurt to call - I know it doesn't really change anything, but it's nice to know at least something, even if it's to not expect anything.  I guess I'm just too used to managing peoples expectations in my job and personal life, and almost expect the same back...  Nice thing now though is, I have a name of an individual I can call.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 May 2013, 18:46
I have never known VW ordering being so haphazard with potentially incorrect order information and complete lack of information available to the dealer or the buyer. What is it with the MK7 that is so hard to plan out properly? I'm hoping that next week i'll be pleasantly surprised with a week 23/24 build confirmed!

@ Dave: the dealership I ordered from is part of a group of only 2 branches so should be no complications with other branches snaffling group allocations (I can see this potentially happening for big groups though). The other branch hadn't apparently ordered a GTI/GTD for anyone before my order went in. Oh well, i'll bide my time for further official info.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 May 2013, 19:34
I have never known VW ordering being so haphazard with potentially incorrect order information and complete lack of information available to the dealer or the buyer. What is it with the MK7 that is so hard to plan out properly? I'm hoping that next week i'll be pleasantly surprised with a week 23/24 build confirmed!

@ Dave: the dealership I ordered from is part of a group of only 2 branches so should be no complications with other branches snaffling group allocations (I can see this potentially happening for big groups though). The other branch hadn't apparently ordered a GTI/GTD for anyone before my order went in. Oh well, i'll bide my time for further official info.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but according to customer service guy I spoke to today gti's are coming first with gtd's coming in august/September. I'm sitting on wk34 which I think is totally unacceptable buy he said it was always VW's intention to do it this way. When I asked why the website says on sale June he said that was for gti's only!! wtf is going on at VW?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 20 May 2013, 19:46
McMaddy: Week 34? W/C 19th August. Jeez. I haven't chased mine through VW UK to see if mine is any sooner than that, still unsure whether yours was ordered before my dads. If that is an accurate time for yours then you'll definitely be on the new plate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 20 May 2013, 19:49
I'm still stuck on wk36 :cry:

And my order is for a GTI. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 20 May 2013, 20:20
McMaddy: Week 34? W/C 19th August. Jeez. I haven't chased mine through VW UK to see if mine is any sooner than that, still unsure whether yours was ordered before my dads. If that is an accurate time for yours then you'll definitely be on the new plate.


mine and your dads were ordered on the same day I think. I'm hoping that VW over here don't actually know what's happening yet and the proper dates will be earlier.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: linc-dub on 21 May 2013, 08:48
mcmaddy - I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 21 May 2013, 09:39
I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13

Linc-dub... Confirmed or estimated BW?

Mine was ordered 9.4.13 and I still have heard a dickie bird. Needless to say the phone will be on speed dial to my dealer next week :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 May 2013, 10:01
My dealer has confirmed today I'm still showing BW26.  He did confirm however that my GTI will be the first the dealership receives, which is good.  However just shows that the first car they are getting is 4 weeks later (in terms of build week) than originally predicted by VW, and this is a pretty big dealership.  VW are clearly behind in their production for the UK it seems.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 May 2013, 13:00
mcmaddy - I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13
I oredered mine on 2nd April so it may be true about all gtd's having the same build wk of 34. Hope not as its turning out to be misrepresentation here!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 May 2013, 13:44
My dealer has confirmed today I'm still showing BW26.  He did confirm however that my GTI will be the first the dealership receives, which is good.  However just shows that the first car they are getting is 4 weeks later (in terms of build week) than originally predicted by VW, and this is a pretty big dealership.  VW are clearly behind in their production for the UK it seems.
I'm not sure it is really behind.  BW24 is still the earliest anyone has isn't it?  I'm guessing a lot of the week 22 and 23 cars might be more demos or something?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 May 2013, 14:02
I'm not sure it is really behind.  BW24 is still the earliest anyone has isn't it?  I'm guessing a lot of the week 22 and 23 cars might be more demos or something?

No, they are definitely behind.  GTI's were supposed to start production BW22, the demos should all ready be made and ready for 1st June in the showroom.  I know BW24 is the earliest we have on here but it should have been BW22!  :laugh: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 May 2013, 15:19
mcmaddy - I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13
I oredered mine on 2nd April so it may be true about all gtd's having the same build wk of 34. Hope not as its turning out to be misrepresentation here!!

I tried ringing VW UK up for my build date (projected or complete guess) and the system is down. They're supposedly going to ring me back tomorrow morning when they hope the system is back up.

If my build week does end up being considerably sooner than mcmaddy's then it would lend credibility to limited order assignments per dealership, e.g. If mine was week 24 (or 25/26), my dad's was 29 (or 30) and mcmaddy's is 34, then we're talking about a real 1 per month/5 weeks allocation per dealership (assuming my dad's order just pipped mcmaddys on same day). @mcmaddy i'll pm you my dad's order no so you can let me know whether yours if before his or after.

German efficiency and reliability lacking here on the order system.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sbaker31 on 21 May 2013, 15:25
Hi all I ordered mine on 8th of April and have a build week of 34!
Have been told it could be brought forward but I doubt it!!
Should still beat the 9 and a half month wait for my Scirocco.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 May 2013, 17:02
mcmaddy - I'm told BW34 for my GTD ordered on 19.05.13
I oredered mine on 2nd April so it may be true about all gtd's having the same build wk of 34. Hope not as its turning out to be misrepresentation here!!

I tried ringing VW UK up for my build date (projected or complete guess) and the system is down. They're supposedly going to ring me back tomorrow morning when they hope the system is back up.

If my build week does end up being considerably sooner than mcmaddy's then it would lend credibility to limited order assignments per dealership, e.g. If mine was week 24 (or 25/26), my dad's was 29 (or 30) and mcmaddy's is 34, then we're talking about a real 1 per month/5 weeks allocation per dealership (assuming my dad's order just pipped mcmaddys on same day). @mcmaddy i'll pm you my dad's order no so you can let me know whether yours if before his or after.

German efficiency and reliability lacking here on the order system.
pm'd you matthew
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 21 May 2013, 17:08
Welcome sbaker! Week 34 is not too long await.... Hopefully you'll get it before the new Mk8 arrives anyway :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 21 May 2013, 17:14
You are getting me worried now!

I was the third person to order a GTi from my dealership.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 21 May 2013, 17:54
I like how this thread has over 14.5k views, yet probably something like 50 contributors.  Either there are a lot of people reading this via google search results or something, or else the 50 of us are so desperate for news we've each been mashing the refresh key every few seconds for the past month. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 21 May 2013, 17:59
I like how this thread has over 14.5k views, yet probably something like 50 contributors.  Either there are a lot of people reading this via google search results or something, or else the 50 of us are so desperate for news we've each been mashing the refresh key every few seconds for the past month. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hahahaha :grin: I'm probably guilty for around 10k of those views  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 21 May 2013, 19:16
Haha this thread might as well be my home page!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 May 2013, 19:24
Can't help thinking that only if VW had provided some quality build information we'd only have a couple of pages haha
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Andy_cs on 21 May 2013, 19:26
My order was confirmed on May 7th and I was told BW36 provisionally yesterday, hope it comes forward but not holding my breath
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 21 May 2013, 19:39
Well at Pulman Sunderland, mcmaddy beat my dad to a same day order, and I was in a few days before him.Looks like my dad will be getting his in Sept at the earliest.

If VW had been the main manufacturer of Panzer tanks and Messershmitts we wouldn't have started WW2 until 1944!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Movi on 21 May 2013, 19:48
The Later Build Dates for GTD suits me as I don't want it until 63 plate in september. which coincides with my mk6 gtd turning 3.

Been told my GTD laydown should be mid August which suits me.

FYI when I enquired about the pana roof option, dealer told me this would delay the order longer due to assembly on a different production line. don't know if this is true or not?



Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 21 May 2013, 19:55
Well at Pulman Sunderland, mcmaddy beat my dad to a same day order, and I was in a few days before him.Looks like my dad will be getting his in Sept at the earliest.

If VW had been the main manufacturer of Panzer tanks and Messershmitts we wouldn't have started WW2 until 1944!

hahaha
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 21 May 2013, 22:39
I ordered my GTD on the 15th of this month, been told 12 weeks. Just waiting on a factory order reference.

Going for the 5 door, pure white, panoramic roof, sound pack and ACC.

I was going to order the winter pack but decided against it. I did notice however, the winter pack has changed on the website today.

Previously it stated 'heated seats, heated washers and fluid level warning', but it has changed to 'Winter pack with leather and Bi-Xenons'.

Does that mean that people who opted with the winter pack WITHOUT leather are now getting refused the option?

Seems things are still being revised after orders are taken.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 21 May 2013, 22:43
I ordered my GTD on the 15th of this month, been told 12 weeks. Just waiting on a factory order reference.

Going for the 5 door, pure white, panoramic roof, sound pack and ACC.

I was going to order the winter pack but decided against it. I did notice however, the winter pack has changed on the website today.

Previously it stated 'heated seats, heated washers and fluid level warning', but it has changed to 'Winter pack with leather and Bi-Xenons'.


Does that mean that people who opted with the winter pack WITHOUT leather are now getting refused the option?

Seems things are still being revised after orders are taken.


That is really strange  :huh: It looks like it's no longer an option if you don't spec leather
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 00:45
I ordered my GTD on the 15th of this month, been told 12 weeks. Just waiting on a factory order reference.

Going for the 5 door, pure white, panoramic roof, sound pack and ACC.

I was going to order the winter pack but decided against it. I did notice however, the winter pack has changed on the website today.

Previously it stated 'heated seats, heated washers and fluid level warning', but it has changed to 'Winter pack with leather and Bi-Xenons'.

That is really strange  :huh: It looks like it's no longer an option if you don't spec leather

Does that mean that people who opted with the winter pack WITHOUT leather are now getting refused the option?

Seems things are still being revised after orders are taken.
Weeeeeeeeell...... It also still thinks colour MFD is a £135 option, and we know that is bogus.  Call your dealer, I don't trust the config thingy.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 May 2013, 09:16
Oh dear, this just gets worse!  So I just got an e-mail from VW, which contains:

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I am delighted to learn of your recent purchase of a Golf GTI. I am, however, sorry that you could not find the information that you were looking for on our website. We are in the process of updating the website and we hope to have the site working as normal in the very near future.

I have spoken with our Sales Team and I can confirm that your order is currently scheduled to be built in the week commencing 16 September. This is still subject to confirmation from our colleagues in Germany.

So that would potentially put delivery at mid-October...  A far cry from the late August delivery I was told by my dealer.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 10:00
Oh dear, this just gets worse!  So I just got an e-mail from VW, which contains:

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I am delighted to learn of your recent purchase of a Golf GTI. I am, however, sorry that you could not find the information that you were looking for on our website. We are in the process of updating the website and we hope to have the site working as normal in the very near future.

I have spoken with our Sales Team and I can confirm that your order is currently scheduled to be built in the week commencing 16 September. This is still subject to confirmation from our colleagues in Germany.

So that would potentially put delivery at mid-October...  A far cry from the late August delivery I was told by my dealer.

That's week 38... WTF????  How many cars are they building each week?  What the hell are they doing between week 14 and 38?  Thats 17 weeks, about a third of a year.  How many coffee breaks can you have?  FFS don't these Germans keep telling us they are super efficient?

I was originally told to expect delivery "July/August", meaning end of July or beginning of August.  If they now said delivery would not be before mid October I'll be mighty pissed off!

:angry: :angry: :angry:

On the plus side it will definitely be a 63 plate.  But this is a pretty small plus side.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 22 May 2013, 10:12
That's week 38... WTF????  How many cars are they building each week?  What the hell are they doing between week 14 and 38?  Thats 17 weeks, about a third of a year.  How many coffee breaks can you have?  FFS don't these Germans keep telling us they are super efficient?

I was originally told to expect delivery "July/August", meaning end of July or beginning of August.  If they now said delivery would not be before mid October I'll be mighty pissed off!

:angry: :angry: :angry:

On the plus side it will definitely be a 63 plate.  But this is a pretty small plus side.

Yup, bit of a joke huh?!  I was also told to expect August delivery by my dealer.  Plate is irrelevant to me as I'll have a private one for it.  For me it's not really about the build date, it's the uncertainty around the specification.  If I knew it was going to be exactly what I wanted, I wouldn't have a problem.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 10:55
If we're lucky they might have us wait until MY15 when the climate windscreen will be standard equipment*

(*Don't quote me on that). Still waiting for my "first thing" phonecall back from VW UK. I take back all of my old opinions about india based broadband helpdesks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simoor on 22 May 2013, 10:59
Spoke to Chester VW yesterday and they said my Golf GTI should be in production in 3 weeks (placed order 3 days after release), they said I should have a definite build date in 10 days time.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 12:17
I decided to ring VW UK as they hadn't returned my call. The customer services lass put me on hold for a good 5 mins while they were speaking to sales.. I thought the wait might be a good sign as they're usually back to me immediately, telling me that they can't get hold of sales.

Well she had an answer for me, but it was a bit of a strange one, considering mcmaddy ordred same day as my dad, just pipping my dad to it and he's been given week 34.

My car (order confirmed March 30th) = Week 26 (5DR Man, no options).
My dad's car (order confirmed April 3rd) = Week 25 (5DR DSG, no options).

The only explanation I can think of for my car being made a week after my dad's is potentially my change of colour (from DBP to TR), could it have bumped me down the queue a week or 2?

If mcmaddy's week 34 is correct then it looks like the only logical explanation is a delay associated with his options. I wonder whether everyone being quoted week 32+ who ordered in March or the first week of April have a common option that is holding things up?

I'm assuming there has to be some logic here and that's the only logical assumption I can think of.

The lass on the phone did empasise that the dates quoted are only preliminary scheduling and could be subject to change (hopefully brought forward if anything). She reckoned also that the car would be built within 2 weeks of that date and 10 days after that it should've been delivered to the dealership, PDI'd and potentially in my hands. From all the additional stuff like that she'd told me it did seem as though she knew what she was talking about.

The disparity between mcmaddy's and my dad's orders seems to throw the allocation assumption out. If our dealership (one of only 2 in the group) has a limited allocation and mcmaddy got in after me but before my dad, why is his scheduled 9 weeks later? It does seem as though options are playing a part unless mcmaddy's info provided by VW UK is out of date and they're now providing better forecast of accurate (! :laugh:!)build times.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 12:34
If mcmaddy's week 34 is correct then it looks like the only logical explanation is a delay associated with his options. I wonder whether everyone being quoted week 32+ who ordered in March or the first week of April have a common option that is holding things up?

I'm assuming there has to be some logic here and that's the only logical assumption I can think of.

The lass on the phone did empasise that the dates quoted are only preliminary scheduling and could be subject to change (hopefully brought forward if anything). She reckoned also that the car would be built within 2 weeks of that date and 10 days after that it should've been delivered to the dealership, PDI'd and potentially in my hands. From all the additional stuff like that she'd told me it did seem as though she knew what she was talking about.

The disparity between mcmaddy's and my dad's orders seems to throw the allocation assumption out. If our dealership (one of only 2 in the group) has a limited allocation and mcmaddy got in after me but before my dad, why is his scheduled 9 weeks later? It does seem as though options are playing a part unless mcmaddy's info provided by VW UK is out of date and they're now providing better forecast of accurate (! :laugh:!)build times.

Good info.  If you check out my "spec and options popularity" thread I recently did an analysis of which options might cause delays and your 2 orders + mcmaddy were some of the most useful ones in this.  Interestingly the only delay I could identify was that adding the sunroof bumps things to week 35ish... I recent conversation with a dealer that someone posted bears this out as the dealer said sunroof requires a different build and bumps the order to BW 30-something.

However, mcmaddy didn't go for the sunroof IIRC?  So still not got to the bottom of it!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Golf7 on 22 May 2013, 12:38
I rang VWUK today for an update on my order for a GT (with some options) and this is getting beyond a joke, this is basically what has happened:

8th March: Ordered Golf GT, pacific blue, Xenons, 2Zone, Park assist, de-badge

15th March: I find out (luckily) online that the Xenon option I have ordered won't have the 'U' shaped LED drls, which is what was shown in the brochure the dealership gave me. I send an email to dealership asking for them to investigate.

26th March: after numerous emails and phone calls to the retailer they are having no joy in getting the information they need from VWUK, so I contact VWUK directly, who themselves don't seem to be able to confirm what is happening one way or another with the Xenon lights. I ask for one thing: don't let my order go to build week confirmed until we know if the Xenons with LED drls will be an option in the coming weeks, and if they do become an option will VWUK foot the bill for the more expensive second option?

4th April: I am finally informed by my retailer that the option that was specified on my order was the Xenons without LED drls and that VWUK have declined upgrade me to the Xenons with LED drls option as a gesture of goodwill, but the 'good news' is that my car is now in 'build week confirmed'. This isn't good news as I will be keeping this car for 4 years so it has to be 100% right! I check with the VWUK Executive office and the reason VWUK won't pay the extra is because they made the retailers aware of this issue back in February apparently. My retailer was having none of that.

5th April: As the original order can no longer be modified (as it is build week confirmed), I cancel the order and place a new order. As the campaign has now changed this means the pricing, residuals etc are not quite the same and even by removing the metallic paint and going with Tornado Red, which should have balanced out the additional £400 for the more expensive Xenon option, it doesn't quite work like this and the car is a few quid a month more than the original one, which I have to swallow.

6th May: I call VWUK customer services to check on the progress of my new order and am told that it is due to be built week 21 (end of May) and I should expect delivery end of June/early July. Happy days as my A3 goes back on 28th June.

22nd May: I call VWUK to double check the order is still on track and I am now told that it is now due for build around week 27, July, although this is not confirmed and I won't expect delivery until at least early August.

Needless to say I AM NOT A HAPPY BUNNY!!!!

I have spoken to the executive office again who say they will 'see what they can do' but I won't hold my breath. I told them I am not so angry about the waiting time, it is just the fact I am told something different every time I speak to them! The whole experience has been a ball-ache from start to finish.

DIABOLICAL!!!  :sick:


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 12:42
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 12:45
I think the trouble arises because of two things: one, VW UK are sh!te. And two, they clearly have no say whatsoever - so as much as we can all phone them and ask them to do this and that, they have no control over what happens in Germany.

Awful service so far from VW UK.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 May 2013, 12:46
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

Valenni, Maybe re-post your question in this thread about Xenons: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=253945.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=253945.0)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 22 May 2013, 12:54
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

Hi Valenni

What dealership did you order from?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 22 May 2013, 12:56
I really hope somebody from VW UK HQ reads this thread to realises how p*ssed off many of its customers are. There is a lot of ill feeling flying around due to frustration and unclear messages from VW. Venting our anger over the phone only gets us so far. Not much a first contact phone-monkey-telesales-advisor can do is there :angry: It's the decision making bosses that need a V-2* shaped rocket up their a$$es!

* Apologies for the WWII reference, just couldn't resist ;-)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 May 2013, 12:57
If mcmaddy's week 34 is correct then it looks like the only logical explanation is a delay associated with his options. I wonder whether everyone being quoted week 32+ who ordered in March or the first week of April have a common option that is holding things up?

I'm assuming there has to be some logic here and that's the only logical assumption I can think of.

The lass on the phone did empasise that the dates quoted are only preliminary scheduling and could be subject to change (hopefully brought forward if anything). She reckoned also that the car would be built within 2 weeks of that date and 10 days after that it should've been delivered to the dealership, PDI'd and potentially in my hands. From all the additional stuff like that she'd told me it did seem as though she knew what she was talking about.

The disparity between mcmaddy's and my dad's orders seems to throw the allocation assumption out. If our dealership (one of only 2 in the group) has a limited allocation and mcmaddy got in after me but before my dad, why is his scheduled 9 weeks later? It does seem as though options are playing a part unless mcmaddy's info provided by VW UK is out of date and they're now providing better forecast of accurate (! :laugh:!)build times.

Good info.  If you check out my "spec and options popularity" thread I recently did an analysis of which options might cause delays and your 2 orders + mcmaddy were some of the most useful ones in this.  Interestingly the only delay I could identify was that adding the sunroof bumps things to week 35ish... I recent conversation with a dealer that someone posted bears this out as the dealer said sunroof requires a different build and bumps the order to BW 30-something.

However, mcmaddy didn't go for the sunroof IIRC?  So still not got to the bottom of it!

The only option i changed was the adaptive chassis control but that was added on 28th April and I still have the same order number as my original one. Im wondering now if my change has meant me being dumped to the bottom of the pile at VW. i must just cancel and get a car from a different brand as loyalty seems to get you nowhere these days!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 13:00
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

Hi Valenni

What dealership did you order from?

Agnews. Great service from the guys there too. I imagine they are eager to shift these cars ASAP and would rather not have any holdups.

Although I suspect things will become clearer over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 13:18
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

If there is any logic in the build date allocation then you've done OK to have only ordered last week and have a BW earlier than some here, even with the Pano roof which I would assume to be prime suspect option for delaying orders. Of course if there are formal dealership allocations, you might've struck lucky by still being the first order for your chosen dealership.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 22 May 2013, 13:29
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

Hi Valenni

What dealership did you order from?

Agnews. Great service from the guys there too. I imagine they are eager to shift these cars ASAP and would rather not have any holdups.

Although I suspect things will become clearer over the next few weeks.

Yeah, same as myself in Boucher Road. I've been given a build week of 35, despite ordering the car on 9th April. Hope it sorts itself out over the next week or so!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 13:31
I ordered my GTD last week with the Panoramic roof, manual, ACC and Dynaudio sound and my estimated build is WK33.

One question though, do the Bi-Xenons / LED lights on the GTD / GTI come standard with the cornering function?

If there is any logic in the build date allocation then you've done OK to have only ordered last week and have a BW earlier than some here, even with the Pano roof which I would assume to be prime suspect option for delaying orders. Of course if there are formal dealership allocations, you might've struck lucky by still being the first order for your chosen dealership.

On the other hand, it's just an estimate, subject to change of course.  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 13:31
The only option i changed was the adaptive chassis control but that was added on 28th April and I still have the same order number as my original one. Im wondering now if my change has meant me being dumped to the bottom of the pile at VW. i must just cancel and get a car from a different brand as loyalty seems to get you nowhere these days!!

Has anyone else who ordered ACC had a sub week 30 estimated build week from VW UK? This could be one of the big delay options.

Chris: Got anything else in mind for the replacement? The only thing i'd consider  instead of a GTD would be a Leon FR if you are after something relatively quickly (maybe a stock one being built/has been built with no allocated customer), A3 a possibility but they don't have the 184PS TDI yet. The best option is the GTD if you can hack the wait.

Makes me wonder if Mick tried telling you ACC wasn't worth the money partially to avoid the order delay that might come with the option. Chances are there's only a limited number of lines dedicated to ACC set-up and the queue is inevitably longer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 22 May 2013, 13:43
The only option i changed was the adaptive chassis control but that was added on 28th April and I still have the same order number as my original one. Im wondering now if my change has meant me being dumped to the bottom of the pile at VW. i must just cancel and get a car from a different brand as loyalty seems to get you nowhere these days!!

Has anyone else who ordered ACC had a sub week 30 estimated build week from VW UK? This could be one of the big delay options.

Chris: Got anything else in mind for the replacement? The only thing i'd consider  instead of a GTD would be a Leon FR if you are after something relatively quickly (maybe a stock one being built/has been built with no allocated customer), A3 a possibility but they don't have the 184PS TDI yet. The best option is the GTD if you can hack the wait.

Makes me wonder if Mick tried telling you ACC wasn't worth the money partially to avoid the order delay that might come with the option. Chances are there's only a limited number of lines dedicated to ACC set-up and the queue is inevitably longer.

Im going to ring him and see what he says. Do you think he'd be pi**ed if i changed my order again??
Ive seen a leon fr supercopa but its not a golf gtd, i even thought about a mk6 but im that hacked off with vw im thinking of changing brand altogether. To what I havent got a clue.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 13:53
The only option i changed was the adaptive chassis control but that was added on 28th April and I still have the same order number as my original one. Im wondering now if my change has meant me being dumped to the bottom of the pile at VW. i must just cancel and get a car from a different brand as loyalty seems to get you nowhere these days!!

Has anyone else who ordered ACC had a sub week 30 estimated build week from VW UK? This could be one of the big delay options.

Chris: Got anything else in mind for the replacement? The only thing i'd consider  instead of a GTD would be a Leon FR if you are after something relatively quickly (maybe a stock one being built/has been built with no allocated customer), A3 a possibility but they don't have the 184PS TDI yet. The best option is the GTD if you can hack the wait.

Makes me wonder if Mick tried telling you ACC wasn't worth the money partially to avoid the order delay that might come with the option. Chances are there's only a limited number of lines dedicated to ACC set-up and the queue is inevitably longer.

I was looking at the FR 184 TDI prior to the GTD and after many delays I gave up and went for the GTD. SEAT tell me the 184 Bhp engine wont even begin production until October earliest.  They could not even take my order!
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 13:53
Chris (mcmaddy): If another change would get Pulman their sales money a few months quicker then I think Mick would be up for it, although he'll probably wish you hadn't changed in the first place. Right now he might not be aware you've been given a week 34 build if he's patiently waiting for next week before chasing up again.

Nothing else out there that you could get quickly ticks all the boxes that the GTD/GTI does, unless you like BMW 1 series styling and don't mind paying out a lot in options to get the spec up.

It would be good for the statisticians amongst us to tabulate order date against week build quoted (for those of us that have pestered VW UK) with ticky boxes for certain options like ACC and sunroof to see if there is a pattern in later builds for those options. I can't see some of the options like satnav causing delays as they're standard equipment or just as likely to be ordered on any model of Golf.

For me the sunroof is a delay on all models - VW seem to have difficulty in sourcing the parts and they'll probably all be built down 1 specific line - it's expensive for what it is.

ACC won't be a big seller for those Golfs not coming with big wheels. It's an expensive option that gives the biggest comfort benefit for those on 18/19" wheels. These are the 2 options (maybe also the Pearl white paint or PP on the GTIs) that I would expect to delay the build. Anyone care to do the maths?
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 13:59
I was looking at the FR 184 TDI prior to the GTD and after many delays I gave up and went for the GTD. SEAT tell me the 184 Bhp engine wont even begin production until October earliest.  They could not even take my order!

So the Leon is out before the Golf, the FR is "available to order" well before the GTD and they can't get hold of any 184PS TDIs? Looks like VW got fist dibs on the engine and forgot to tell SEAT about it. My local SEAT dealer is crap - gives bottom book on p/x and no discount on the new car. I could understand bottom book if I was p/xing a Renault Clio against a Jag, but p/xing a VW against a SEAT, there should be no penalty as VW sits higher up than SEAT in the VAG hierarchy.
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Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 14:07
It would be good for the statisticians amongst us to tabulate order date against week build quoted (for those of us that have pestered VW UK) with ticky boxes for certain options like ACC and sunroof to see if there is a pattern in later builds for those options.

Where's The Bear when you need him?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 14:53
My car (order confirmed March 30th) = Week 26 (5DR Man, no options).
My dad's car (order confirmed April 3rd) = Week 25 (5DR DSG, no options).

If mcmaddy's week 34 is correct then...

Hang on a minute.  These are all GTD orders aren't they?  Didn't someone say their dealer had "confirmed" that no GTDs would be built until August and that was "always the intention"???  Weeks 25-26 are mid June!

Its kind of hard to trust anything really.  I want to assume they know what they are talking about but it seems like almost every dealer/customer service rep has a slightly different take on what is going on.  There is just too much contradiction here.
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 15:06
It would be good for the statisticians amongst us to tabulate order date against week build quoted (for those of us that have pestered VW UK) with ticky boxes for certain options like ACC and sunroof to see if there is a pattern in later builds for those options.

Where's The Bear when you need him?!

Aha!  A quest after my own heart!  (or something like that)

How about I make such a form and then post it here for all to fill in?  I think it should be in a new topic though to make it visible to everyone who visits but maybe doesn't read this entire thread.  My boss has gone off somewhere so I'm unsupervised right now (heh heh), I'll get back to you shortly.
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Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 15:10
Sounds good Bear, nice one!  Yes, a new topic would be good so we can find it & fill it in without searching through the pages on this thread!!
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 15:11
Bill: I think Chris (mcmaddy) might've meant VW UK told him that. Our dealer would've slapped our p/x prices right down if he thought the cars were coming 2 months after he'd said they would. At point of ordering I was told end of June/start July for pick-up was most likely, but he admitted at that point he didn't know for sure until VW put it in the build schedule. He told me that I was the first order for a GTD (or a GTI) on Pulman's books and that they hadn't ordered any demos (not sure whether they're obliged to at some point).
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Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 15:16
I was looking at the FR 184 TDI prior to the GTD and after many delays I gave up and went for the GTD. SEAT tell me the 184 Bhp engine wont even begin production until October earliest.  They could not even take my order!

So the Leon is out before the Golf, the FR is "available to order" well before the GTD and they can't get hold of any 184PS TDIs? Looks like VW got fist dibs on the engine and forgot to tell SEAT about it. My local SEAT dealer is crap - gives bottom book on p/x and no discount on the new car. I could understand bottom book if I was p/xing a Renault Clio against a Jag, but p/xing a VW against a SEAT, there should be no penalty as VW sits higher up than SEAT in the VAG hierarchy.

Well, the FR 150Bhp was available to order, but the 184Bhp was not and is still not. (Even though it was reviewed by the trades since December 2012)
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Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 15:18
and that they hadn't ordered any demos

That is utter b0llocks, they will have ordered demos ready for a June delivery.  He's telling your porkies.

Initial demos take priority over customer orders - that's not right and shouldn't be the case but that's life unfortunately.
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 15:25
and that they hadn't ordered any demos

That is utter b0llocks, they will have ordered demos ready for a June delivery.  He's telling your porkies.

Initial demos take priority over customer orders - that's not right and shouldn't be the case but that's life unfortunately.

I'll look forward to my test-drive in a few weeks if that's the case. Wasn't sure whether smaller groups of dealers would escape obligatory demo purchases (1 each for GTD and GTI), Pulman only have 2 VW branches. At least if they have a demo mine won't be first in the place and all the unwanted curiosity that might bring in the showroom.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 22 May 2013, 15:28
I suppose if mine has been delayed a week or 2 over my dad's because of my colour change it would mean that my colour change has been acknowledged (the tracker is still showing DBP because they've never updated it upon receipt of change presumably).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 15:46
Just got my order number and went onto the website to check.

It's 'Processing your order' Which is OK with me. But should the 'my car details' on the right not show my extras also?


Your car:

New Golf GTD 2.0 TDI 184 PS 6-speed Manual 5 Door
Colour: Pure White
Upholstery:
Titan Black


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Post by: matchboy on 22 May 2013, 15:50
Valenni - it should do, yes!  But it doesn't - that's the most you'll get I'm afraid!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 16:09
Valenni - it should do, yes!  But it doesn't - that's the most you'll get I'm afraid!

Ahh so no need to worry then. Good.  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 May 2013, 16:10
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254181.0
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Post by: mk7gti on 22 May 2013, 19:28
Valenni did you order from Boucher or Mallusk?
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Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 21:16
Valenni did you order from Boucher or Mallusk?

Boucher mate. You?
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Post by: CraigW on 22 May 2013, 21:20
How long do you have to stare at this track my order website before the status changes to build week confimed? My eyes hurt  :cry: :cry:
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Post by: mk7gti on 22 May 2013, 21:27
Mallusk I will have to keep an eye out for you around Belfast  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: blueheaduk on 22 May 2013, 22:11
How long do you have to stare at this track my order website before the status changes to build week confimed? My eyes hurt  :cry: :cry:

Maybe I've misread a few posts but I don't think anyone has website confirmation yet! Just info over the phone from dealers/VW UK
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Post by: peterdoherty on 22 May 2013, 22:27
Valenni & mk7gti were you able to get any decent discount out of agnews? They wouldn't play ball with me at all for a 5dr GTD DSG with a lot of extra kit for either a cash sale or trade in (offered a ridiculously low trade in value on my 3YO GT TDI DSG which has been serviced with them for its life). Basically the only thing they were willing to discount was gap insurance (still way overpriced).

Found Boucher really pushy to close the deal and really pushing the PCP deal. Getting a few emails from the salesman still.

Ended up buying across the water (at dealer near family over there) at the weekend being approx £5k better off with decent deal and a realistic private sale price (fingers crossed).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 22 May 2013, 22:43
I have to say I was happy with my deal. I tried Edwin Mays but they couldn't compete. To be fair you will find Agnews have probably sold their allocation for the next few months hence the harsh line on price.
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Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 22:43
Mallusk I will have to keep an eye out for you around Belfast  :smiley:

Yeah, just don't be racing me.  :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 22 May 2013, 22:45
Valenni & mk7gti were you able to get any decent discount out of agnews? They wouldn't play ball with me at all for a 5dr GTD DSG with a lot of extra kit for either a cash sale or trade in (offered a ridiculously low trade in value on my 3YO GT TDI DSG which has been serviced with them for its life). Basically the only thing they were willing to discount was gap insurance (still way overpriced).

Found Boucher really pushy to close the deal and really pushing the PCP deal. Getting a few emails from the salesman still.

Ended up buying across the water (at dealer near family over there) at the weekend being approx £5k better off with decent deal and a realistic private sale price (fingers crossed).

To be very honest, I looked around the main site in the UK and Ireland and they were all pretty much the same. Maybe because I ordered so late? (By that time they were running out of allocation)?

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Post by: peterdoherty on 22 May 2013, 23:58
I have to say I was happy with my deal. I tried Edwin Mays but they couldn't compete. To be fair you will find Agnews have probably sold their allocation for the next few months hence the harsh line on price.

yep prob right about their allocation. Think I must have gotten lucky at the english dealer. Tried a few other dealers over there and no discounts to be had
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 23 May 2013, 10:23
Hi Everyone,

Emailed my dealer yesterday just to confirm that the changes i'd made to my spec had been done.

I got an email back with the following image attached, confirming my spec. But also with build week info, Week 37!!!

(http://s17.postimg.org/roqxcw5vv/Order.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/roqxcw5vv/)

Just to advise how far off the mark this is, my order confirmation from the dealer stated mid August delivery. With the possibility it may go back 'A few weeks'.
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 23 May 2013, 10:28
Hi Everyone,

Emailed my dealer yesterday just to confirm that the changes i'd made to my spec had been done.

I got an email back with the following image attached, confirming my spec. But also with build week info, Week 37!!!

(http://s17.postimg.org/roqxcw5vv/Order.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/roqxcw5vv/)

Seems to be saying you are week 37, but were originally week 39.  Just remove "2013" from the start of the number.

Sorry for the bad news. Is it a GTD or did you grab a sunroof?  I have a theory that sunroofs and GTDs are delayed until around week 36 ish.  But there are some major inconsistencies and I'm still low on data points.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 23 May 2013, 10:29
Yes it's a GTD, no sunroof however.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 May 2013, 11:18
Something for everyone to remember - the August shutdown. VW production will be closed for 2 or 3 weeks sometime at the end of July or first few weeks of August (weeks 31 and 32 I suspect) and we should see a gap in actual build dates as a result. Orders treated the same way for same spec placed a day apart could end up getting built a few weeks apart.

You can't get away from an annual shutdown in a high volume production environment. Lots of annual maintenance jobs (complete cleandown of paint shop booths and preventative maintenance on robots, air handling units for airtooling etc) get done along with planned line and building modifications that can't be squeezed in on a wekend (assuming they don't work them on CSPs anyway).

I used to work for a structural steelwork contractor at the Ford Transit van plant in Southampton - you'd be surprised how many changes get made to line and buildings all the time as a result of optimisations etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 May 2013, 13:43
My dealer has just emailed me with the usual 2 week update. He has said mine is week 26 (same as VW UK said yesterday) but my dad's will be 2 or 3 weeks after (3 or 4 weeks later than VW UK said yesterday). Maybe it's to do with the "build date" window of a few weeks and maybe mine is at the front of a window and my dad's is at the back of it, or maybe there's just a big (4 week) margin of error between any 2 different VW UK representatives.
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Post by: JoeGTI on 23 May 2013, 14:17
Mine is now "awaiting shipment"  :smiley:

Anyone know how long it typically takes to go from that point to actually arriving at the dealers?

The dealer told me it's missed the boat for this week. I would imagine there's a boat at least once a week?
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Post by: Gryzor on 23 May 2013, 14:47
Provisional week 38 here...complete joke!
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 23 May 2013, 14:53
JoeGTI: From Germany to UK port is a 1 or 2 days, from port to dealership should be anywhere between 1 and 3 days (my dealership is about 8 miles from the Port of Tyne where it will be shipped to, so hopefully a day for me).

No idea whether yours goes straight to Ireland by ship (likely) or whether it gets shipped to the UK, transported across to a western port and then ferried to Ireland. If it goes straight to Ireland from Germany then maybe there is only one ship a week.

There used to be an excellent VW boat tracker on Scirocco Central forum and RW1 could track anything from there, but he died recently and no-one else has taken up his mantle. If you know the name of the boat and what port it would be coming to/leaving from there are websites to check the progress of ships. A few old boys from down the street use the website as I live above the mouth of the Tyne and they all do "boat spotting" with their high end camera gear as they sail by our street.
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Post by: JoeGTI on 23 May 2013, 15:11
JoeGTI: From Germany to UK port is a 1 or 2 days, from port to dealership should be anywhere between 1 and 3 days (my dealership is about 8 miles from the Port of Tyne where it will be shipped to, so hopefully a day for me).

No idea whether yours goes straight to Ireland by ship (likely) or whether it gets shipped to the UK, transported across to a western port and then ferried to Ireland. If it goes straight to Ireland from Germany then maybe there is only one ship a week.

There used to be an excellent VW boat tracker on Scirocco Central forum and RW1 could track anything from there, but he died recently and no-one else has taken up his mantle. If you know the name of the boat and what port it would be coming to/leaving from there are websites to check the progress of ships. A few old boys from down the street use the website as I live above the mouth of the Tyne and they all do "boat spotting" with their high end camera gear as they sail by our street.

Thanks mate, yeah I remember looking at that thread on the Scirocco Central forum when I was waiting for my GTD! Wow, that guy died, oh my god, that's awful... he really knew his stuff on the shipping.

To the best of my knowledge, the cars are shipped directly to Ireland - to either Dublin or Cork as far as I know. I suppose it's just a question then of how often an Ireland-bound ship departs Germany... ? Once it's in Dublin, I'd expect it to be in the dealers by the following day.
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Post by: Sootchucker on 23 May 2013, 15:21
Yeah Chris (RW1) died quite recently and suddenly. A big shock for all of us, and the forum is worse off for his departure. He had an amazing wealth of knowledge and was ready to help anyone. A sad time for all us Rocco owners.
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Post by: JoeGTI on 23 May 2013, 17:26
OK, so my dealer just confirmed that my car missed the recent boat departing for Ireland and there isn't another one scheduled for a couple of weeks. He's not expecting to see it arrive until the 13th/14th of June. How slow are these bloody boats, it would nearly swim it in that time!

The delay kinda suits me in a way, as I was hoping not to register it anyway until July 1st (our registrations change to a "new" plate in July for the 2nd half of the calendar year).
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Post by: Torch on 23 May 2013, 17:43
My Golf GTi was ordered on 30th April.
VW UK have confirmed a manufacture date of 26th August at the latest but are optimistic of bringing that forward.
Live in hope for September 1st.

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Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 07:51
One thing I can glean from my week 26 build date, the "no GTDs are being made before August" line appears to be bollocks and it would appear that if there is any VW sanctioned delay on GTD production compared to GTI then it is a matter of a few weeks (is week 24 still the earliest GTI order conformation for UK mainland orders?).
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 11:01
My dealer just emailed me.  My estimated BW has changed from 36 to 37... :angry:

I think I might call VW because I don't really trust the dealer is doing anything more than reading off a computer screen which may not be accurate.  Seems like people who have called in get a response that feels more reliable.

In other news, I updated the analysis thread with some info.  Not very interesting but helps pass the time.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=254181.msg2331215#msg2331215

Could really use more than 2 people with confirmed BWs to respond to the survey though! haha.

EDIT:
Can anyone recommend a method of contacting VW that gets the best results?  Seemed like there was some praise for the responses via twitter a while back?
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 11:04
Bill: My dealer has always given me the impression that every update he has given me was as of a result of what VW UK tell him, not what he can see on a computer, although I would hope that a dealership would have access to better and more accurate info than we are. The only use for that tracker would seem to be for us to be assured it is on a boat from leaving the factory when it finally gets built.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 24 May 2013, 11:07
Dealers should have direct access to VW in Germany. I just think VW UK are totally clueless when it comes to orders, dates, cars, configurators, pricelists..............................
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 11:36
Yes but what is the nature of that direct access?  Is it just reading the output off this screen:
http://postimg.org/image/roqxcw5vv/

I'm not sure that is as reliable as talking to someone who checks with the factory directly.

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Post by: Gryzor on 24 May 2013, 13:02
My dealer just emailed me.  My estimated BW has changed from 36 to 37... :angry:

I'm provisional week 38 mate.  Had this confirmed by three different sources at VW, including my dealer this morning who called me.  Nothing that can be done about it unfortunately, but on the bright side, my part-ex is fixed, and I can save up more cash in the meantime.
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Post by: mcmaddy on 24 May 2013, 13:07
Im nearly in the same boat. Wk 34/35 but with fixed trade in. Less to pay off more to save, only plus side mind!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 14:04
Build weeks in the 30s let alone high 30s are just ridiculous.  One response I just had to the survey puts the guy on a BW of 43!  I really hope that one is a typo as his spec isn't that dissimilar to mine and he ordered in the same week I did :cry:.

I've contacted VW on Twitter to ask if they can get a better explanation of what is going on than my dealer can.  This wouldn't be hard as my dealer has no info at all other than a BW number.

They promised to look into it and get back to me Wednesday at the latest.
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Post by: Gryzor on 24 May 2013, 14:08
I agree Bear, it's ridiculous, and I've expressed my displeasure to my dealer, to the point that I will be insisting on some level of compensation if delivery goes beyond August as they told me.
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Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 14:46
I agree Bear, it's ridiculous, and I've expressed my displeasure to my dealer, to the point that I will be insisting on some level of compensation if delivery goes beyond August as they told me.

Yes.  Moving the date around by a couple of weeks seems fair but I'm currently looking at an additional two months on top of a lead time that was already almost four months!  Its not like the factory burnt down or any other kind of special circumstances either... they just can't seem to give proper estimates or any reason why its going to take so long to make the cars.  Its as if they're making just one a day and they have assigned the order semi randomly. :angry:
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 15:44
Bill: Am I right in thinking that it looks like my dad's GTD will be the first mainland UK GTD getting here and maybe even the first DSG GTD?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 May 2013, 17:08
Bill: Am I right in thinking that it looks like my dad's GTD will be the first mainland UK GTD getting here and maybe even the first DSG GTD?

There is a GTI with a confirmed BW the week before your dad's, but it is manual.  After that your dad's car is the first GTI or GTD confirmed.  So currently yes, he is first GTD and first DSG in the UK (that we know of).

However, there is a GTD DSG that was ordered the week before his that currently does not have a BW confirmed yet.
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Post by: MkVIIGTD on 24 May 2013, 18:47
What week was your GTD ordered?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 24 May 2013, 19:05
Bill: Am I right in thinking that it looks like my dad's GTD will be the first mainland UK GTD getting here and maybe even the first DSG GTD?
However, there is a GTD DSG that was ordered the week before his that currently does not have a BW confirmed yet.

Bill that would be me - and I still haven't heard a sodding thing :angry:

No estimated or confirmed build week. Im defo gonna play hell on the phone next week.
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Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 19:29
What week was your GTD ordered?

MKVIIGTD: My dad's order was officially accepted with order no from VW UK on 3rd April (as was McMaddy's, from same dealership). My Manual 5dr GTD (no extras) was ordered 3 days previous and 2 weeks later I changed colour from DBP to TR, which may have bumped me back a little (a week going by what VW UK have told me)..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 24 May 2013, 19:37
Has your dads got any extras?
My order was accepted by vw uk on 4th April. And I'm getting estimated build date of week 34!!  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 May 2013, 19:50
MKVIIGTD: No extras, just 5DR DSG standard spec. It was ordered in TR but the tracking info shows DBP as the colour (a colour he'd considered but didn't want to pay £500). If it arrives as DBP he'll be quite pleased with it as he will not be paying for something he never asked for. The original order acceptance document clearly states TR for colour, but the VW tracker website says otherwise.

I do think certain extras are kicking these orders to the back of the queue (i'm guessing ACC and sunroof but Bear's stats might tell us more when people confirm their BW with him).
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Post by: GolfTi on 27 May 2013, 19:28
Build week confirmed on tracker.
Week 25.

Anyone else??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 May 2013, 19:44
Build week confirmed on tracker.
Week 25.

Anyone else??

Yes, my Dad. Your inclusion of ACC blows my "ACC delays build" theory right out of the water - you may be the earliest confirmed UK build that has ACC on as an option.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 27 May 2013, 21:01
I have made no changes to my original order, maybe that's the key thing.
I knew exactly what I wanted.
DSG will delay things as will changes to spec.
GTD will be quite a few weeks later.

Late June/early July delivery. :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 27 May 2013, 21:28
Meant to ask, but why is a panoramic roof not allowed with the 19" wheels? The configuration tool won't allow them both as options.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 27 May 2013, 21:31
Build week confirmed on tracker.
Week 25.

Anyone else??

No confirmation yet, but it looks like we placed our orders around the same time. Our orders are very similar however I've opted for DSG & 19" Santiago's which may have added another 2 weeks (purely speculating btw).. I've been given a provisional date of wk 27 which should (if the theory is correct) be confirmed next week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: SF-GTD on 27 May 2013, 22:06
Meant to ask, but why is a panoramic roof not allowed with the 19" wheels? The configuration tool won't allow them both as options.

It's discussed elsewhere on here, but I think the consensus was that it increases the kerb weight too much.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 07:48
Meant to ask, but why is a panoramic roof not allowed with the 19" wheels? The configuration tool won't allow them both as options.

It's discussed elsewhere on here, but I think the consensus was that it increases the kerb weight too much.

I think it's as much, if not more to do with the stiffer ride on the 19" wheels that may play havok with the operation of the sunroof mechanism. A way around VW not giving you the option would be to buy sunroof with 18" wheels and get someone else you know to order their GTI (non-sunroof) with 19" wheels (chucking them the extra cost upfront) then swap wheels over upon delivery of both cars. That relies on knowing someone who's also ordering a GTI who won't want to keep them upon arrival and offers you your money back instead. Might be something a dealer is prepared to do on a GTI they might be ordering in for themselves (if they haven't already got one). Not sure how that would affect warranty for any issues with the sunroof that may occur.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 09:28
Ok, so bored of waiting for the tracker to update so called VW this morning.  Chap said I'm now BW28 and not BW26 which I was told - by them - a couple of weeks ago.  Asked why I've gone backwards and he said BW28 is the earliest build week for any GTI of my spec.  Unsure of what that actually means, to be honest I don't believe him anyway as he didn't sound like he knew what he was talking about. To say I'm not happy is an understatement.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 10:02
Ok, so bored of waiting for the tracker to update so called VW this morning.  Chap said I'm now BW28 and not BW26 which I was told - by them - a couple of weeks ago.  Asked why I've gone backwards and he said BW28 is the earliest build week for any GTI of my spec.  Unsure of what that actually means, to be honest I don't believe him anyway as he didn't sound like he knew what he was talking about. To say I'm not happy is an understatement.  :angry:

No performance pack models being made before this date perhaps? Shortage of Santiagos? (far less likely). The Dynaudio and satnav are available across the Golf range, doubt it's either of those.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 10:38
Would have to be PP, but my data shows at least one person with a confirmed BW of 24, and the PP!

I think he is talking crap (the VW man, not matchboy).  With all the data I've gathered I'm really beginning to think it is just random. Problem is there are two factors and either or both could be random.  Its either the actual build planning, or their communication of that to us, or both...

BTW: re Sunroof + 19inch
Someone who asked about this said it had to do with putting the emissions over a threshold and into the next tax band.  If true that would fit with why it affects different countries differently.  To be honest I don't believe the theory about weight.  How much heavier can the 19inch wheels be vs the 18inch ones?  Enough to hit some kind of limit?  I don't think so.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 10:41
Possibly the PP?  Who knows!  We need Bear's analysis of who's got what date compared to what options they have!

If I had to guess I'd say it was the Dynaudio to be honest.  I'm sure that held up my mk 6 order as its not a 'usual' option ie. not many people spec it.  Still, not fooking happy at all.

Ah, I see your reply Bear!  Could it be the Dynaudio then?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 10:47
Possibly the PP?  Who knows!  We need Bear's analysis of who's got what date compared to what options they have!

If I had to guess I'd say it was the Dynaudio to be honest.  I'm sure that held up my mk 6 order as its not a 'usual' option ie. not many people spec it.  Still, not fooking happy at all.

Ah, I see your reply Bear!  Could it be the Dynaudio then?

Nope.  Again, a BW24 GTI has Dynaudio speced.  Your other options are fairly standard on Golfs in general.  I supposed it could be they don't have any 19inch wheels until wk26... no I can't even convince myself, they've already put them on demo cars.

EDIT:
Of course it could be that your guy wasn't wrong, and someone else is in for a nasty surprise this morning as well!  Perhaps even "confirmed build week" isn't reliable!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 28 May 2013, 11:01
I don't think its a shortage of parts, I was told week 24 and have Dynaudio and PP.

Look on Autoscout24.de and all the cars have the options we are looking for already.

It may be that my week 24 will go back also, but the tracker stated build week confirmed 2 weeks ago now.

I still think its possible, its to do with dealer allocation, or the fact that when the dealers came round to putting the orders through after the bank holiday weekend, there was a deludge of orders, and they didn't get put on in date order by VW UK?

Dave

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 11:08
Well I've checked with my dealer, and he also says its been moved to BW28.  He doesn't know why, but he says he'll find out.  I await his reply with baited breath.

As per the other replies, maybe its got nowt to do with the spec then and more to do with the dealer itself ie. their allocation.  In which case there is nothing any of us can do about that.  This sort of makes sense if you look at the demos appearing - it seems there are some up north but I've seen no mention of any demos down here in the South - which makes me think that maybe North of England dealers are getting their allocation before dealers in the South.

Which is also weird as its better down South!  :laugh:  :lipsrsealed:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 11:09
I still think its possible, its to do with dealer allocation, or the fact that when the dealers came round to putting the orders through after the bank holiday weekend, there was a deludge of orders, and they didn't get put on in date order by VW UK?

I'll check on that then if I can.

EDIT:
I checked on it.  Three of my "confirmed BW" orders were placed early in April, but one was placed late in April (after my own order in fact).  The order numbers are 2317xxxx, 2318xxxx, 2322xxxx, 2323xxxx.  I've confirmed a rough correlation between order date and order number.  Three of the dealers are from the North, the fourth, oddly, doesn't have a dealer...

So those up north getting early builds does fit, though I think we have insufficient data to really make this conclusion at this stage.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 11:13
Would have to be PP, but my data shows at least one person with a confirmed BW of 24, and the PP!

I think he is talking crap (the VW man, not matchboy).  With all the data I've gathered I'm really beginning to think it is just random. Problem is there are two factors and either or both could be random.  Its either the actual build planning, or their communication of that to us, or both...

BTW: re Sunroof + 19inch
Someone who asked about this said it had to do with putting the emissions over a threshold and into the next tax band.  If true that would fit with why it affects different countries differently.  To be honest I don't believe the theory about weight.  How much heavier can the 19inch wheels be vs the 18inch ones?  Enough to hit some kind of limit?  I don't think so.

I do wonder whether you get a variable response from VW UK depending upon who you speak to - whether someone guesses build week by the date you tell them you ordered, or by the order number provided rather than finding out for sure. My enquiries led me to be put on hold for a good 5 mins whilst the lass on the phone found out. Her answers seemed accurate for my dad's car and if i'm on the tracker towards the end of the week would hold true for me too. My dealer on the other hand seems to agree with VW UK on week 26 for me, but thinks my dad's is doing BW27 and not 25.

If you ring up VW UK and someone gives you an answer straight away without putting you on hold to find out then they've probably made an educated guess based on your order number.

As for the 19" wheels/sunroof combi - maybe the sunroof is a bigger contributor to weight than the wheel upgrade? VW have never been able to tell me why a manual GTD is same CO2 rating in 3 or 5 door, but a 5door DSG GTD is a whole 3g CO2 more than the 3 door DSG GTD, putting it into a whole new tax band. Unless they can tune a 5 door manual to be a bit leaner to counteract the CO2 implications for slightly higher weight for 5 door over 3 door I can't see how they would have the same output.

But if a similar situation occurred with the sunroof/19" wheels and someone was prepared to be in a higher tax disc band for the combo then why stop them? Weird.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 11:21
I've seen no mention of any demos down here in the South - which makes me think that maybe North of England dealers are getting their allocation before dealers in the South.

Which is also weird as its better down South!  :laugh:  :lipsrsealed:

Generally a lot more new cars up here in the North East. If you're in a decent job up here you've got more disposable income than someone down south who's saddled with 50-100% higher house prices for essentially the same house. Demos maybe handed out based on expected sales per dealership group.

You definitely see regional patterns - North East dealerships are offering generous p/x but little in the way of discounts compared to others getting 9-12% off down south (dealerships down there have to try harder to get your money?).

I spent the 2nd half of my childhood down Southampton when my parents moved down there. My school mates down there think I must be on megabucks - they expect the North East to be like those Catherine Cookson ITV dramas.  :laugh: They're all driving old cars because they're saddled with £250k+ mortgages.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 28 May 2013, 11:32
Popped into dealers this morning ordered 1st April told week 24 build now cahnged to build week 43 this has been brought froward to week 38 (unconfirmed).Not too worried ordered a Focus ST MK2 a few years ago that was 6 months late oh well.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 11:33
As for the 19" wheels/sunroof combi - maybe the sunroof is a bigger contributor to weight than the wheel upgrade?

Exactly, but in this case, since you can get sunroof + 18inch with no problem, whatever the extra weight the 19inches are over and above the 18inches is (according to VW) enough to make the kerb weight too much?  I call BS!

Not sure it makes any more sense on emissions either, but at least that explains national variations.  Like you say the GTD emissions make no sense either...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 11:40
Maybe it is regional then.  This could be the reason for the differences in Build Weeks!  If that's the case then hey ho, I'd rather live down here and get my car a few weeks later  :laugh: :drool:

Another thing that doesn't make sense to me is this sunroof issue with the 19s - if it adds too much weight then surely that means a car with a sunroof is heavier than one without - how does that stack up with VW's weight figures??  And this will surely mean a car with a sunroof will be slower??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 11:44
Well I could sort my analysis by region and do it that way.

Problem is there are so many ways we could look at this and we don't have much data.  I've had over 40 responses to the online survey thingy but many gave incomplete data.  For example, some who filled it in don't have confirmed BWs, didn't want to give me their full order number (understandable) and didn't give the dealer name (also understandable).  To be honest that doesn't give me much to work on.

That leaves maybe around 20 responses, but they are all different specs ordered at different times to finding a trend is virtually impossible.

I might try anyway.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 11:45
Popped into dealers this morning ordered 1st April told week 24 build now cahnged to build week 43 this has been brought froward to week 38 (unconfirmed).Not too worried ordered a Focus ST MK2 a few years ago that was 6 months late oh well.

I'd rely on VW UK more than what your dealer tells you. especially if customer service puts you on hold for 5 mins and go to speak to the people in the know - the sales division. If you were one of the first in your dealership to order (likely with an april 1st order) and you haven't made any changes to your order since then week 24/25 seems quite feasable. Did you get an order number from your dealership? If the dealer took your deposit and forgot to book your order in with VW UK before they put 5 orders in for other people in the meantime (and hammering their allocation) and you've ended up with a late order number like 2323xxxx I can imagine week 38 not being far off the mark. Not saying that's what likely happened.

If you have your order number you might want to ring VW UK and see what they say.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 28 May 2013, 12:14
I still think its possible, its to do with dealer allocation, or the fact that when the dealers came round to putting the orders through after the bank holiday weekend, there was a deludge of orders, and they didn't get put on in date order by VW UK?

I'll check on that then if I can.

EDIT:
I checked on it.  Three of my "confirmed BW" orders were placed early in April, but one was placed late in April (after my own order in fact).  The order numbers are 2317xxxx, 2318xxxx, 2322xxxx, 2323xxxx.  I've confirmed a rough correlation between order date and order number.  Three of the dealers are from the North, the fourth, oddly, doesn't have a dealer...

So those up north getting early builds does fit, though I think we have insufficient data to really make this conclusion at this stage.

Interesting thing is my order number 2317xxxx, was not the first GTi they had sold, I was the third order, so presumably there will be deliveries before mine.

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 12:18
Interesting thing is my order number 2317xxxx, was not the first GTi they had sold, I was the third order, so presumably there will be deliveries before mine.

WOW :shocked:  You northern boys don't hang around do you?

I'm slightly less worried about twiddling my thumbs while GTI after GTI drives by now and my BW gets put back again and again.  If they're all up north I won't be feeling so jealous!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 12:22
Getting an early order number doesn't necessarily put you at the front of the queue. Someone with 2317xxxx but was 3rd in the line for their dealership (like HA54SYM) could get their car a lot later than someone with 2323xxxx if they were the first order for their dealership - allocation per branch seems to be quite a big deciding factor, more important than purely order number I would guess.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: HA54SYM` on 28 May 2013, 13:00
Think you have to put it in to context also.

How many GTi's have been ordered on here?, how many mk6 GTi's do you see on the road? - Only a few.

How many people will wait until now, to see a demo and then decide to order, can't be that many ordered blind like us.

Then lastly think how many RHD GTi's will they build in a week!

Dave
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 28 May 2013, 13:10
I spoke to VW UK again there now... I ordered on 28th March, confirmed order 4th April,,, order number 2318**** and they have again given me an UNCONFIRMED build week 34!!!  :angry:
Ordered GTD DSG, with few options, but nothing out of the ordinary... don't understand why other guys here have been given BW26-27 with orders fairly similar to mine.
The girl went away and checked for me and she seemed to know what she was talking about. When i asked her why she said the VW may have earlier BW but they havent schduled them yet!
Wish VW would get their act together and sort it out!!  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 May 2013, 13:11

Then lastly think how many RHD GTi's will they build in a week!

Dave

This is an excellent point.  When you think about this in that context I'm surprised we're getting them this year!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 May 2013, 13:13
I spoke to VW UK again there now... I ordered on 28th March, confirmed order 4th April,,, order number 2318**** and they have again given me an UNCONFIRMED build week 34!!!  :angry:
Ordered GTD DSG, with few options, but nothing out of the ordinary... don't understand why other guys here have been given BW26-27 with orders fairly similar to mine.
The girl went away and checked for me and she seemed to know what she was talking about. When i asked her why she said the VW may have earlier BW but they havent schduled them yet!
Wish VW would get their act together and sort it out!!  :cry:

Perhaps your location is a deciding factor? VW might be treating Northern Ireland (and maybe places like channel Islands, Isle of Man etc) differently from mainland UK?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jsybrian on 28 May 2013, 13:17
Order starts 2318 I do trust the dealer know them pretty well they have 3 GTIs on order various specs all builds mid to late weeks 30.Their own demonstrater is I think week 32 they do expect builds to be moved forward as no confirmed build weeks are logged on the VW system .
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: sam67GTD on 28 May 2013, 13:30
I spoke to VW UK again there now... I ordered on 28th March, confirmed order 4th April,,, order number 2318**** and they have again given me an UNCONFIRMED build week 34!!!  :angry:
Ordered GTD DSG, with few options, but nothing out of the ordinary... don't understand why other guys here have been given BW26-27 with orders fairly similar to mine.
The girl went away and checked for me and she seemed to know what she was talking about. When i asked her why she said the VW may have earlier BW but they havent schduled them yet!
Wish VW would get their act together and sort it out!!  :cry:

Perhaps your location is a deciding factor? VW might be treating Northern Ireland (and maybe places like channel Islands, Isle of Man etc) differently from mainland UK?

I've ordered a GTD like you from the same dealer and have an unconfirmed build week of 33. Ordered later than you on 9th April.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 28 May 2013, 13:40
In all honesty, as interesting as all this speculation and research is, it won't make my car get built any faster.  I'm almost at a point now where I simply don't care any more!  Until the car is actually being built, build weeks can fluctuate for any number of reasons, so if it really is going to be week 38 for me, so be it.  I'll take that as worst case, and any sooner is a bonus.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 28 May 2013, 13:46
In all honesty, as interesting as all this speculation and research is, it won't make my car get built any faster.  I'm almost at a point now where I simply don't care any more!  Until the car is actually being built, build weeks can fluctuate for any number of reasons, so if it really is going to be week 38 for me, so be it.  I'll take that as worst case, and any sooner is a bonus.

I've started telling people my new car is coming in September, it's helping my mental state  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 28 May 2013, 13:49
I've started telling people my new car is coming in September, it's helping my mental state  :laugh:

Same, being saying September/October - helps that a big part of my job is managing peoples expectations, so the least I can do is manage my own!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 28 May 2013, 14:11
I spoke to VW UK again there now... I ordered on 28th March, confirmed order 4th April,,, order number 2318**** and they have again given me an UNCONFIRMED build week 34!!!  :angry:
Ordered GTD DSG, with few options, but nothing out of the ordinary... don't understand why other guys here have been given BW26-27 with orders fairly similar to mine.
The girl went away and checked for me and she seemed to know what she was talking about. When i asked her why she said the VW may have earlier BW but they havent schduled them yet!
Wish VW would get their act together and sort it out!!  :cry:

Perhaps your location is a deciding factor? VW might be treating Northern Ireland (and maybe places like channel Islands, Isle of Man etc) differently from mainland UK?

I'm similar.  I've contacted VW to enquire what they can tell me about my order.  Dealer thinks wk37, which was revised from wk36, which was after an initial estimate of around wk30-31...  some similar orders to mine seem to have estimates in the order of wk26-28, but its unclear what change to BW a small difference in spec might make.  My analysis suggests any particular option can result in a low BW, so therefore not cause a delay.  But its far from clear.

I'm ordering from Warwickshire btw.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 28 May 2013, 14:42
There just seems to be no reason and VW UK cant seem to give me a reason why other cars similar spec ordered around same time have build weeks. So much for there all BW will be allocated on Week 22!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 09:59
So much for there all BW will be allocated on Week 22!!

A massive slice of VW bullsh!t.  According to them everyone who'd ordered early should be given a confirmed BW by week 22 ie. Monday just gone.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 29 May 2013, 10:21
A massive slice of VW bullsh!t.  According to them everyone who'd ordered early should be given a confirmed BW by week 22 ie. Monday just gone.  :rolleyes:

The only thing I was told in relation to week 22 was the switchover to MY14 spec.  Nothing was said around a confirmed BW being given by week 22 (assuming inclusive here).  We are still in week 22 though, so it's entirely possible for that to happen, but I somehow doubt we'll hear much over the next week or two.  Would love to be proven wrong!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 10:33
Guys,

I'm preparing a (hopefully short) list of questions to email to VW to try to confirm/deny some of our theories as to why there is a wide variation in estimated/confirmed build weeks.  Would be really helpful to know if they have ever stated that week22 would result in many of us getting confirmed BWs or if we have just kind of assumed that without them saying it.

Can anyone point me to a statement by VW in the hour or so?  If not I won't include this as one of my questions.

FYI my other questions aim to establish:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 10:41
A massive slice of VW bullsh!t.  According to them everyone who'd ordered early should be given a confirmed BW by week 22 ie. Monday just gone.  :rolleyes:

The only thing I was told in relation to week 22 was the switchover to MY14 spec.  Nothing was said around a confirmed BW being given by week 22 (assuming inclusive here).  We are still in week 22 though, so it's entirely possible for that to happen, but I somehow doubt we'll hear much over the next week or two.  Would love to be proven wrong!

I don't think everyone that ordered early was ever going to be told they would be allocated a firm build week by week 22 (even if VW UK operatives gave that impression). I think that is the point from which we'd start to see ealry UK builds confirmed.

I strongly believe (from the info that Bear has analysed) that your place in a dealership's allocation queue is a big consideration as to when your car will be built. Ordered week 13 but 2 others ordered before you at your supplying dealership then you're probably going to get yours built way after someone ordering week 18 who is first order in at their supplying dealership.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 10:46
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 10:52
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Ok, this is good.  When they said that what was your estimated week?

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:

Yes, I've been wondering that.  I'm not sure if I will ask though.  I see it as secondary to the wider question of 'when will we get info we can trust' and the question of 'why the huge variation in estimates for effectively identical orders'.  If I ask too much or too hard a question I think they would just throw out a canned response so I want to avoid that.  Also I'm not sure there will be an answer of any use to why not BW22.  I suspect the answer would just be something like 'because of factors we're not going to go into' and that wouldn't tell us anything we don't know so it would be a wasted question.

I'll mull it over a bit more though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 10:53
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:

Matchboy: Might be worth asking whether your order is 1st with your supplying dealership. If not then that would add some credibility to my "allocation order" theory. If you are first in line at your dealership and haven't been bumped back by order changes (have you made any?) getting a build week beyond BW28 makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 29 May 2013, 10:54
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:

We need to get consistency here - "by week 22" is very different "from week 22".  Might be pedantic, but the latter can mean any time from now until they actually start building your car.  Agreed it's annoying and I don't understand it either, but I'm sure that in my case, swapping specification a few times can't have helped my cause.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 10:59
We need to get consistency here - "by week 22" is very different "from week 22".  Might be pedantic, but the latter can mean any time from now until they actually start building your car.  Agreed it's annoying and I don't understand it either, but I'm sure that in my case, swapping specification a few times can't have helped my cause.

My dad got his build week notification last Thurs (as did a few others), which was still officially week 21. there's a contradiction. I took it to mean "from BW22". If you are BW26 you'll hear in BW22, BW28 you'll hear in week 24 etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 29 May 2013, 11:02
Bear, I was told by VW that from BW22 I would be given a confirmed BW.  As of yet I have not.

Additionally, I think the question that needs to be answered is why, with MY2104 cars being built from BW22, are we all having to wait for our cars (for a minimum of a month from this date) to be given a build week, having ordered as soon as the order books opened.  In short, I do not understand why myself (and others) having ordered early, weren't given BW22 slots.  :angry:

Matchboy: Might be worth asking whether your order is 1st with your supplying dealership. If not then that would add some credibility to my "allocation order" theory. If you are first in line at your dealership and haven't been bumped back by order changes (have you made any?) getting a build week beyond BW28 makes no sense at all.

Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 11:05
Matchboy: Might be worth asking whether your order is 1st with your supplying dealership. If not then that would add some credibility to my "allocation order" theory. If you are first in line at your dealership and haven't been bumped back by order changes (have you made any?) getting a build week beyond BW28 makes no sense at all.

I was the first order with my dealership, and they are part of a very large group.  My dealer has confirmed to me that I will be the first GTI (other than the demo) that they receive.  I've not made any changes to my original order.  And I haven't specced a panoramic roof!!  So, how is my car BW28??  Makes me angry just thinking about it!!  :angry:

Bear, when I was told by VW that from BW22 orders will be given a confirmed BW, they couldn't give me even an estimated BW for mine.  Said their systems wouldn't allocated any BWs until 22.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 11:05
Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!

WTF that is outrageous!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 11:07
Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!

MkVIIIGTD: You might be the exception to that (theoretical) rule if you're not being treated the same as mainland UK for dealer allocation/build weeks. I'm sure there's someone here from Jersey who's also an early order placer who faces a long wait like you. Might be a knock on to you in the same way as UK has had to wait a while after Ireland for order allocation scheduling.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 11:12
Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!

MkVIIIGTD: You might be the exception to that (theoretical) rule if you're not being treated the same as mainland UK for dealer allocation/build weeks. I'm sure there's someone here from Jersey who's also an early order placer who faces a long wait like you. Might be a knock on to you in the same way as UK has had to wait a while after Ireland for order allocation scheduling.

I live in Hertforshire, there shouldn't be any knock on effects lol  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 11:15
Matchboy... i have been assured that i was the first order from my dealer back on 29th March but my unconfirmed BW from VW UK is 34!!

This is exactly what I want to try to get some clarity on.  As far as I am aware MkVIIGTD made the first order anywhere in the UK.  Ok, I'm sure there were others but his must be very high up in the grand scheme of things.  So why is he not BW22?  Or why not BW26 like many others are?  Why BW34?

To my mind this could mean one of two things:

I'm trying to understand what information can be trusted/what the process is, not what the specific results are.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 29 May 2013, 11:39
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 29 May 2013, 12:10
Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt
.

If you get week 26 (as I have been told for my GTD), i'd expect to see a tracker change to "build status confirmed" by the end of the week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 29 May 2013, 12:18
Ordered my GTI on 3rd May from Vindis St Ives Cambs. Just been given provisional BW38, dealer did say this would change but did not say in which direction, better not be any longer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 29 May 2013, 12:23
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt

Hope so, my current build week for my GTD stands at 37!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 12:23
Ordered my GTI on 3rd May from Vindis St Ives Cambs. Just been given provisional BW38, dealer did say this would change but did not say in which direction, better not be any longer.

Ha, you're just up the road from me!  I've been given provisional wk37 (different dealer though) wonder which of us will be first to get ours?  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 29 May 2013, 12:37
Ordered my GTI on 3rd May from Vindis St Ives Cambs. Just been given provisional BW38, dealer did say this would change but did not say in which direction, better not be any longer.

Ha, you're just up the road from me!  I've been given provisional wk37 (different dealer though) wonder which of us will be first to get ours?  :tongue:

Yes noticed that, think you must work near the science park if you can see Vindis Cambridge. Did ask the St Ives branch if they had a demonstrator yet but no so still have not seen one in the flesh.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 29 May 2013, 12:40
Ordered my GTI on 3rd May from Vindis St Ives Cambs. Just been given provisional BW38, dealer did say this would change but did not say in which direction, better not be any longer.

Ha, you're just up the road from me!  I've been given provisional wk37 (different dealer though) wonder which of us will be first to get ours?  :tongue:

Yes noticed that, think you must work near the science park if you can see Vindis Cambridge. Did ask the St Ives branch if they had a demonstrator yet but no so still have not seen one in the flesh.

Yep, I'm on the Science Park.

In other news:
I just send VW a long (unfortunately) email with some very specific questions designed to settle some of the confusion we're having, particularly over the wide range of BWs people are being told with no obvious reason what causes a longer wait or even if the information can be considered reliable.

If they respond I'll post here together with my list of questions.  I've asked if they can be as frank as possible as I hate it when companies just give a canned or vague answer or disclaimer and don't understand why that is the single worst thing they can do from the customer's perspective!  Lets see if they take my point or not...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 29 May 2013, 13:10
Just been told bw27 by VW UK but subject to change
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 29 May 2013, 13:18
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt

You ordered yours the same day as mine and im week 34-36. Having driven the gti demonstrator last night I cant wait until september for delivery!!!!!!!!!!!! Im wondering if some orders are parked at week 34 on the system but will change when uk production gets into full swing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 29 May 2013, 13:35
So, this is interesting.  Asked my dealer when their demo is due.  He says he does not know, and hasn't had any information.  This backs up the issue with the BWs - if the dealer itself hasn't even been told when they are getting a demo (and thus getting it later than other dealers), then this implies that the build time on their allocation for customer orders will be later than other dealers too.

I think this is the issue, in which case there is fook all I can do about it.  It seems its just bad luck based on the dealer itself.  And obviously this is not information that VW would want the early buyers to know, otherwise you would order from some and not others.

Annoying, but I feel at least there is some explanation and its not just random shizzle going on in the VW order system computer!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 08:26
Just had an update from my dealer, I was originally build week 28, now I have been put back to 35.

Very SAD!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 08:43
Just had an update from my dealer, I was originally build week 28, now I have been put back to 35.

Very SAD!!!

Did the dealer tell you what the 7 weeks delay is down to? Dealer made an optimistic guess on BW for your order which has proven to be way off? Did you change your order at all?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 09:13
He does not know why and I have asked him, he is going to try and find out.

I did change the specification quite a bit, but nothing Drastic, car started out as:

GTI Performance (Manual)
Pearl Black
Dynaudio
Winter Pack

To:

GTI Performance (Manual)
Oryx White
Dynaudio
Park assist.

Could be the park assist?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 09:26
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 30 May 2013, 09:34
I agree with monkeyhanger, its the Oryx white for sure.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 11:56
Pants - now I regret getting the Oryx White, if that is the reason.  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 30 May 2013, 12:15
Just had an email to be told the order has moved from week 28 to week 34! WTF is going on at VW, he says its due to my choices! I'm waiting a call back now!! :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 12:15
Pants - now I regret getting the Oryx White, if that is the reason.  :cry:

I think it'll be the paint. Those special campaigns have to be well planned. Used to work at the Ford Transit Van plant in Southampton, and one of the paint booths was for specialist paint campaigns like when BT or Dynorod placed their annual order for vans. Obviously the VW Wolfsburg plant (assuming that's where all our Golfs will be coming from) is on a bigger scale, but even so - the ordering of Oryx White will be a relatively rare event - too rare to keep a dedicated paint booth open for that particular colour.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 12:16
Just had an email to be told the order has moved from week 28 to week 34! WTF is going on at VW, he says its due to my choices! I'm waiting a call back now!! :cry: :cry:

What are your choices BTW?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 12:20
When there was all the talk of tracker "stalking", I came across a Passat being made for Pulman Sunderland supply (same dealer as me), just a few digits out from my order. It took 13 days to get from the day it moved to "in transit" to "your car has arrived". Looks like we'll get our cars within 2 weeks of build completion judging by that.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 12:21
Just had an email to be told the order has moved from week 28 to week 34! WTF is going on at VW, he says its due to my choices! I'm waiting a call back now!! :cry: :cry:

While I am gutted for you, at least I feel less alone now.  Did your dealer also include a finalised order document with the email he sent you?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 May 2013, 13:28
Just got off the phone with my dealer, mine has gone from wk36 to wk39 unconfirmed now?? My car was the second GTI to be ordered by that dealership. :angry: he's had one order for someone called gordon confirmed as bw27.

Oh well... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 30 May 2013, 13:34
Just got off the phone with my dealer, mine has gone from wk36 to wk39 unconfirmed now?? My car was the second GTI to be ordered by that dealership. :angry: he's had one order for someone called gordon confirmed as bw27.

Oh well... :rolleyes:

Blimey, seems like things are getting worse, not better.  I know you didn't want it until September, but the assumption was September this year, not next year!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 30 May 2013, 13:37
Just got off the phone with my dealer, mine has gone from wk36 to wk39 unconfirmed now?? My car was the second GTI to be ordered by that dealership. :angry: he's had one order for someone called gordon confirmed as bw27.

Oh well... :rolleyes:

As many have said before you have to think it's something to do with the options. I see you have chosen DSG and the pano roof. I suspect this is why your bw is being delayed
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mjh_056 on 30 May 2013, 13:38
Thought they would all be upping production given the big pay rise they just got over there, so at least cars will be made by a happy workforce ;)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 30 May 2013, 13:51
OMG!!!! Looks like more & more are getting pushed back now rather than being brought forward.... Does not bode well.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 30 May 2013, 13:57
I've asked for the colour of mine to be changed to Carbon, bet that puts it back another 8 weeks.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 14:42
Dsg and pano roof can't be holding orders up as some people on here have early build weeks with those options selected along with acc. I just think that vw have made an absolute balls up of everything. why say June delivery when they had no intention of ever meeting that deadline. I think UK customers are being well and truly shafted and have been told a complete pack of lies since day 1.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 30 May 2013, 15:05
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 30 May 2013, 15:08
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Maybe worth checking if you still have that build week today? Seems a very early build week for a GTD.  None of the others are that early.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 30 May 2013, 15:23
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Maybe worth checking if you still have that build week today? Seems a very early build week for a GTD.  None of the others are that early.

I was originally unconfirmed wk33, then unconfirmed wk27, now confirmed wk26 as of yesterday.
However the online tracker has yet to change to confirmed bw. I will contact the dealer again once this happens.
Even though we've all being given unreliable info so far, as my dealer said we would all along until confirmed info in wk22, I see no reason for them to give me a confirmed wk26 if they knew different. But then again !!!

I once again wait for the next bit a info from my dealer in the hope they do not now do a u-turn an tell me wk44 etc !!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dervy on 30 May 2013, 16:01
I ordered my GTD on 3rd April and last week I was sent a copy of the VW order records, from my dealer, that showed that I had moved from build week 36 to week 25. The tracker has shown "build week confirmed" since last week. Fingers crossed that there are no further changes - unless it moves to an earlier date!!!!!

__________________________________________________________________________________________

On order:
GTD, DSG, 5 door, pure white, vienna leather, panoramic roof, discover nav, dynaudio.

Current car:
59 GTD, DSG, 5 door, pearl black, vienna leather, 18" Vancouver wheels, RNS510 nav.




Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Andy_cs on 30 May 2013, 16:34
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Maybe worth checking if you still have that build week today? Seems a very early build week for a GTD.  None of the others are that early.

I was originally unconfirmed wk33, then unconfirmed wk27, now confirmed wk26 as of yesterday.
However the online tracker has yet to change to confirmed bw. I will contact the dealer again once this happens.
Even though we've all being given unreliable info so far, as my dealer said we would all along until confirmed info in wk22, I see no reason for them to give me a confirmed wk26 if they knew different. But then again !!!

I once again wait for the next bit a info from my dealer in the hope they do not now do a u-turn an tell me wk44 etc !!!

Hi rick2b, I see you're in West Yorks, if you don't mind which dealer? I too am West Yorks and currently have unconfirmed BW36 and I am hoping this comes forward
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 16:55
I ordered my GTD on 3rd April and last week I was sent a copy of the VW order records, from my dealer, that showed that I had moved from build week 36 to week 25. The tracker has shown "build week confirmed" since last week. Fingers crossed that there are no further changes - unless it moves to an earlier date!!!!!

__________________________________________________________________________________________

On order:
GTD, DSG, 5 door, pure white, vienna leather, panoramic roof, discover nav, dynaudio.

Current car:
59 GTD, DSG, 5 door, pearl black, vienna leather, 18" Vancouver wheels, RNS510 nav.
problem with week 25 is its usually a 4 week lead time before confirmed build which puts you at week 21. my14 changes were wk22 so does that mean your car doesn't have the my14 changes? the earliest should be wk26 confirmed. someone correct me if I've looked at this the wrong way.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 19:08
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Did you order early, with no order changes made? Pauliem changed his colour from DBP - maybe he missed the campaign yours is on if my explanation is what happens with Oryx White cars.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 19:11
problem with week 25 is its usually a 4 week lead time before confirmed build which puts you at week 21. my14 changes were wk22 so does that mean your car doesn't have the my14 changes? the earliest should be wk26 confirmed. someone correct me if I've looked at this the wrong way.

The MY14 changes are for cars built BW22 and onwards, whether they're scheduled before then or not. That's my understanding of the situation. If so then there should be no possibility of a UK customer pot GTI/GTD built without colour MFD. The current demos are a different story, unless they were odered with colour MFD then they'll have the usual monochrome version (as seen on a few dealer pics of demos posted here recently, at least one has a mono MFD).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: MkVIIGTD on 30 May 2013, 19:19
I have just had a chat with my dealer this evening, he tells me he has spoken to VW UK and they have told him that no GTD's have got confirmed build dates yet!!
I really don't know what or who to believe!! Could anyone who has confirmed build week showing in their online tracker maybe screen shot it and send me it, so I can show to my dealer?
He also assures me that Northern Ireland orders are treated no different in the queue than UK mainland orders.

The plot thickens lol  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 19:38
To be honest I don't think VW UK know an ars* from an elbow, dealers are going from what they are told by either a computer terminal or VW UK even though I was told today that dealers can speak to dealer orders at VW direct. I'm not the most patient of people at the best of times but this is just pi**ing me off big style. I wish I'd never gone to the dealer and ordered now and if I'd known then what I know now I wouldn't have ordered a brand new car. this fiasco has put me off buying brand new forever and VW have ruined the entire new car buying experience.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 30 May 2013, 19:48
More likely the Oryx white. I would guess that they make very few of these (not even 1% of Golf output) so probably no dedicated paint booth for that colour which would mean doing a campaign of them all together, and having a full cleandown before and after the campaign. Takes a lot of time to do the cleandowns when compared to paint time per unit, so they'll be collecting orders until they have enough Oryx whites to do together.

I hope you are very much mistaken monkeyhanger. I had a confirmed bw26 yesterday from my dealer for my gtd in oryx white

Did you order early, with no order changes made? Pauliem changed his colour from DBP - maybe he missed the campaign yours is on if my explanation is what happens with Oryx White cars.

Ordered first week in April.
Changed colour from dbp to oryx white about 2 weeks later
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 20:19
Rick2b: Oh well, you had a colour change and still have a far earlier dae. Trying to apply logic to everyone's situations when maybe there isn't any. :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 30 May 2013, 20:24
To be honest I don't think VW UK know an ars* from an elbow, dealers are going from what they are told by either a computer terminal or VW UK even though I was told today that dealers can speak to dealer orders at VW direct. I'm not the most patient of people at the best of times but this is just pi**ing me off big style. I wish I'd never gone to the dealer and ordered now and if I'd known then what I know now I wouldn't have ordered a brand new car. this fiasco has put me off buying brand new forever and VW have ruined the entire new car buying experience.

It'll be worth it, it has to be! :undecided:

Anyway, the plot thickens with my dad's car. He saw a DBP demo GTI at his local dealership (one of the "Peter Coopers", either Shirley or Southampton I think, and he's decided that he doesn't want DBP, he definitely wants TR (his current car is a TR). So I will have to get onto Pulman tomorrow for them to find out whether his TR order is actually a TR (as per accepted order form PDF) or whether the "track my order" info that shows it as a DBP is correct. I think he'll be cancelling the order and making them reorder if it actually is a DBP scheduled for build and it is definitely too late to change the order. :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 21:05
I bet and hope it's just the tracker wrong. it just takes the shine off something that was exciting on 2nd April when I ordered it. expecting delivery late June or early July was just about ok but now September delivery has just tarnished the whole new car buying experience.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dervy on 30 May 2013, 21:40
problem with week 25 is its usually a 4 week lead time before confirmed build which puts you at week 21. my14 changes were wk22 so does that mean your car doesn't have the my14 changes? the earliest should be wk26 confirmed. someone correct me if I've looked at this the wrong way.

The MY14 changes are for cars built BW22 and onwards, whether they're scheduled before then or not. That's my understanding of the situation. If so then there should be no possibility of a UK customer pot GTI/GTD built without colour MFD. The current demos are a different story, unless they were odered with colour MFD then they'll have the usual monochrome version (as seen on a few dealer pics of demos posted here recently, at least one has a mono MFD).
I have been advised that i can expect a colour MFD and my understanding is that the build week is 4 weeks after the tracking system shows "build week confirmed, which has shown on mine since last week. As I have said, the order page shown to me by my dealer shows a confirmed B/W of 25. Having said that, I am not convinced the car will arrive 4 weeks later as suggested by the VW tracker.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 May 2013, 23:11
I bet and hope it's just the tracker wrong. it just takes the shine off something that was exciting on 2nd April when I ordered it. expecting delivery late June or early July was just about ok but now September delivery has just tarnished the whole new car buying experience.

Tbf a six month wait is nothing unusual for a GTI, i waited 6 months for my mk6, i think we're getting a little overly anxious due to the amount of poor information flying about! Sometimes not knowing is better and getting annoyed will just spoil it, i posted earlier that my build week is currently 39 but there is nothing i can do about it so why worry?

It'll all be worth it in the end! It was with my mk6.  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 23:39
I bet and hope it's just the tracker wrong. it just takes the shine off something that was exciting on 2nd April when I ordered it. expecting delivery late June or early July was just about ok but now September delivery has just tarnished the whole new car buying experience.

Tbf a six month wait is nothing unusual for a GTI, i waited 6 months for my mk6, i think we're getting a little overly anxious due to the amount of poor information flying about! Sometimes not knowing is better and getting annoyed will just spoil it, i posted earlier that my build week is currently 39 but there is nothing i can do about it so why worry?

It'll all be worth it in the end! It was with my mk6.  :tongue:

The only annoying thing jimble is that at no point when I sat and handed over a deposit was September mentioned for possible delivery. it was always late June or early July. knowing this up front would have lowered the expectation and excitement to a sensible level.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 30 May 2013, 23:42
I bet and hope it's just the tracker wrong. it just takes the shine off something that was exciting on 2nd April when I ordered it. expecting delivery late June or early July was just about ok but now September delivery has just tarnished the whole new car buying experience.

Tbf a six month wait is nothing unusual for a GTI, i waited 6 months for my mk6, i think we're getting a little overly anxious due to the amount of poor information flying about! Sometimes not knowing is better and getting annoyed will just spoil it, i posted earlier that my build week is currently 39 but there is nothing i can do about it so why worry?

It'll all be worth it in the end! It was with my mk6.  :P

The only annoying thing jimble is that at no point when I sat and handed over a deposit was September mentioned for possible delivery. it was always late June or early July. knowing this up front would have lowered the expectation and excitement to a sensible level.


It could still,be a july delivery who knows? Don't let it get you down mate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 30 May 2013, 23:45
I hate waiting for things and I'm very impatient at the best of times  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 00:34
I think I'm gonna call back to VW with some of the questions being raised here....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 07:35
 Bill: I'm going to get to the bottom of the order confirmation/build tracker discrepancy for colour on my Dad's car today now he's decided he definitely wants Tornado Red over Deep Black Pearl.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 08:24
ask about allocation too. I've got a feeling Durham have pushed my order back to suit themselves.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 08:31
mcmaddy: Aye, will do. Allocation questions probably depend on whether Sundeland and Durham pool their allocations or have separate ones per branch. I'll give Mick a ring about 10ish.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 31 May 2013, 08:39
I think I'm gonna call back to VW with some of the questions being raised here....

Are you going to call your dealership or some other VW customer service line? If so, what is the number, might give them a call myself.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 09:01
according to VW customer services you're better off ringing your dealership as they can then contact VW sales where the general public can't.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 09:06
according to VW customer services you're better off ringing your dealership as they can then contact VW sales where the general public can't.

That's balls, everytime I've called VW customer support they've had to go off and talk to sales themselves.  If you call your dealer you know as well as I do they won't follow it up as its not a priority to them (ok, I'm generalising but most are like this).

The best place for contact is twitter, then they'll ask you to email their twitter team.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 09:08
according to VW customer services you're better off ringing your dealership as they can then contact VW sales where the general public can't.

When I rang VW customer services they put me on hold while they spoke to VW sales, the day before Mick rang me up with a slightly different story about my dad's build week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 09:09
Between them the truth must be out there somewhere.  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 09:13
I wonder if they'd do something if people threatened to cancel every order they had!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 09:24
I wonder if they'd do something if people threatened to cancel every order they had!

They can sell all of these cars at the drop of a hat and they know it, unfortunately. It will be interesting to see if they are prepared to do a deal for me with my dad's DSG GTD if it is actually DBP (and therefore unsuitable for my dad) and it is too late to change now it has gone into scheduled build date allocation. If they (VW UK) are unwilling to do a deal on it (let me have it for my manual price) to preserve the sale and are prepared to let it go to general stock then that says to me they're confident they'll get all their money for it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 09:46
according to VW customer services you're better off ringing your dealership as they can then contact VW sales where the general public can't.

That's balls, everytime I've called VW customer support they've had to go off and talk to sales themselves.  If you call your dealer you know as well as I do they won't follow it up as its not a priority to them (ok, I'm generalising but most are like this).

The best place for contact is twitter, then they'll ask you to email their twitter team.

This.  For whatever reason information from the dealers is super unreliable it seems.  Responses range from giving estimated BWs from 24-43 with no explanation why there is a difference, stating you can't have a BW, that no GTD is to be built before 32, that they have no idea why delays, that its the sunroof, no its the DSG, you'll get them July, no August, no October if you are lucky... etcetera and so on and so forth.

Not saying the twitter method is better so far, but it does seem a lot more consistent.  Also they are an actual customer service team, whereas the dealers are essentially just a sales team who have already made a sale... its a lot more work for them to start investigating these issues.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 09:53
whereas the dealers are essentially just a sales team who have already made a sale... its a lot more work for them to start investigating these issues.

This is a great point.  The dealers, in the main, don't give a t0ss as its irrelevant to them when your car turns up as they've done their bit.  Not all of them granted, but most.

As an aside, I've seen 3 dealers over the last few months - my one knew about the car, and had the knowledge I did - which is what you want.  The other two were pathetic, I knew much more than them.  So, the point being why bother going through someone who doesn't even know the details about the car they are selling - if they can't get that right then they won't be any good at aftersales either.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 10:00
whereas the dealers are essentially just a sales team who have already made a sale... its a lot more work for them to start investigating these issues.

This is a great point.  The dealers, in the main, don't give a t0ss as its irrelevant to them when your car turns up as they've done their bit.  Not all of them granted, but most.

As an aside, I've seen 3 dealers over the last few months - my one knew about the car, and had the knowledge I did - which is what you want.  The other two were pathetic, I knew much more than them.  So, the point being why bother going through someone who doesn't even know the details about the car they are selling - if they can't get that right then they won't be any good at aftersales either.

Even if they are the best dealer and really want to help you I think it is unlikely they have cultivated the same contacts at VW as the service team have, they won't be having meetings, they won't have the same strength because they'll only be enquiring about a single car instead of representing the entire customer base, they may not even have the time because their bosses will want them on that forecourt not sitting in the office on the phone to Wolfsburg all day about an order they've already secured (or think they have).

I also agree that they often know a LOT less then we do about the GTI/GTD.  I suspect that is because we spend a lot of time finding out details about everything.  They need to sell cars.  They might sell one GTI (without effort because of the badge), but to make money they need to shift X many Polos and Y many Golfs a month.  Those are the cars they will be spending their time knowing inside out.

Well, that's my guess.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 10:12
I agree to an extent.  However, I still think if you are selling a £30k car you should know as much as you can about it.  My dealer had been on forums etc and was clued up.  The other two were so p!ss poor I can't explain to you how shocked I was.  Maybe they do assume that a GTI/GTD buyer will have done his research like you say, so they don't have to.  But that's not how I would sell a car - if I hadn't ordered all ready I would not have ordered from them.  It was a much more enjoyable process ordering the car while discussing the options with someone who knew what he was talking about.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 31 May 2013, 10:17
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt

hmmm

VW online tracker has this morning changed to build week confirmed !!!

I will post a screen image of this when I have learned how to do so
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 10:24
hmmm

VW online tracker has this morning changed to build week confirmed !!!
:grin: :grin: :grin:

Checking mine now...

"processing"

DAMMIT! :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 10:30
WOW

Just had a call from my dealer who tells me my GTD has been allocated build week 33.

Thats Mid august, so I'll be lucky if I get it by end of september.

Gonna wait and see what the website tells me to see if they have been told duf info yet again.

Not a happy bunny!!!

Hi Guys,

I sent an email to my dealer on Friday requesting an update on delivery.

Anyway, having being orginally given a week 33 build, I am now told it has been brought forward to week 27, however they stressed it cannot be confirmed until probably week 22. Roll on the next two weeks !!!

I hope for once that this is right and all orders have been moved forward now VW have pulled themselves together.

Just had an email from my dealer who tells me my gtd is now confirmed for a week 26 build !!!
Not too sure if its on the tracker yet, but very much doubt

hmmm

VW online tracker has this morning changed to build week confirmed !!!

You ordered yours the day after mine so will be very interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 10:32
No change in mine yet and it''s supposed to be BW26 according to VW UK sales.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 11:11
The plot thickens… Just spoken with my dealer and the mistake with my dad’s car was made at the dealership’s admin, with them mis-interpreting an email from my salesman.

When I requested to change mine from DBP to TR and to add the 5 year warranty onto my dad’s (but no other changes to his TR 5DR DSG GTD), what actually happened was admin changed his to DBP (so both of our cars were DBP at that point) and added the 5 year warranty onto mine. This mistake was discovered by the salesman a few days later when he got the revised paperwork back and checked it over. So then he got them to transfer the 5 year warranty to my dad’s car and then tried to change them both back to TR. My order accepted the change, but my dad’s was locked out to change because it had gone to “build week confirmed” status. VW UK could not change it.
So there is a Black DSG 5 door GTD with no extras going spare on the VW system getting built in BW25 if anyone wants to jump the queue (assuming it hasn’t already been snapped up) Order number 23181819. I don’t think it is going to Pulmans, it will just be grabbable on the “spare cars” system for any dealership to grab.
The situation with the mix-up was conveyed to VW UK and they have made a “special” build allocation for my dad at the spec he wants that seems to have avoided going to the back of the queue and will be built a few weeks after mine (no tracking number available for that).

This would explain why the dealer was saying the build week for my dad’s was a few weeks behind mine, but VW UK were saying my dad’s was a week in front of mine (using the black car’s tracking number which is no longer my dad’s car). I’m amazed that VW are prepared to allow a “special” build to be snuck in for a mistake that is the dealership’s and not their own.

I did ask why my BW26 car still was not on the tracker as "build week confirmed" now it was within 4 weeks of being built. He said to expect the change by the end of next week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 11:18
Ok, the plot thickens.  Chap just phoned my up from the VW Executive Office, regarding my twitter query and subsequent email.  Had a long conversation.  I would imagine they've passed this up to this chap as I just won't go away pestering them.  :grin:

He started off by telling me that, according to the factory, NO orders have been given confirmed build weeks as yet.  When I queried this given the information that you chaps have posted on here he started to get all ar7ey and basically said everyone was lying.  I told him I find that very hard to believe, yet he stuck by his guns and reiterated that per the factory there have been no confirmed builds for any GTI's in the UK.  Confused?  I am.

I then explained to him that all this messing around with build weeks was ridiculous, and why couldn't I be given a definitive build week based on the information given to me over the last few months by my dealer, VW UK Customer Services and the Twitter UK VW - and given my order was early April.  He tried to blame the dealer, eg. they don't manage expectations, give out false information regarding dates.  I wasn't having that, and pointed out that it was VW UK that gave me the information regarding BW22 and also my "highly unlikely to move" BW of 26 - and not the dealer, who has been pretty good to be fair.  He had no answer for this other than at the time the information I would have been told was coming direct from the factory.

I explained to him that I couldn't understand this given its VW - started to get slightly miffed at one point and slipped a "p!ss poor" into the conversation.  Calmed down a bit, then continued.....in a nutshell he basically said its down to production in Germany and that they cannot control what is going on over there.

However, he did say he would be dealing with this personally and would be having a chat with the factory - and would call me back on Wednesday next week.  He agreed that all this messing around was not on from a customer service point of view, and conceeded that unfortunately there is a massive difference between what the marketing/sales/UK Customer Services guys tell us and what is ACTUALLY being build in Germany.

So all in all, I suppose I'm pleased that I have someone dealing with this for me, but on the other hand I feel slightly confused given I have still no BW, and also quite despondent that it seems that it really doesn't matter what we do/say/complain that the factory will do what they want, when they want - and b0llocks to the customer.

The saga continues....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 11:29
Matchbox: He's probably sent a memo to Wolfsburg to ensure that they stick a kipper behind your dashboard when they build your car.   :rolleyes:

Too many layers in the chain to deal with, lots of opportunity for crossed wires and misinformation.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 11:34
Matchbox: He's probably sent a memo to Wolfsburg to ensure that they stick a kipper behind your dashboard when they build your car.   :rolleyes:

Too many layers in the chain to deal with, lots of opportunity for crossed wires and misinformation.

Ha!  No doubt!  Basically, its all a mess and its pot luck when you get your car or not.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 11:38
The saga continues....

Possible comment for next time you talk to him:

We're not so much upset by the long waiting times, that's just life, the problem is that we actually have no clue what the waiting times are because everyone is told something different with different or no explanations offered.

It really should be very very easy for them to keep us happy.  All they gotta do is tell us all the consistent truth.  That should consist firstly of accurate information about the factory, so at this stage it seems that should be "no confirmed BWs for UK yet, expect to start having them from week XX" and secondly an estimate of how long the wait should be for individual orders with a clear qualifier of how accurate it is.

Now the second part is obviously harder, but really should not be that hard.  They must know how many build slots for UK cars they have per day.  They must know how many total UK orders they have.  They must have a rough idea (from historic data) of if there are too many orders of something, say DSG, such that those orders can expect another Y many weeks wait.  All this adds up to an estimate.  Historic accuracy of these estimates to the eventual delivery adds up to a +/- error.

So we should each be getting something like this:

"There are no confirmed BWs from Wolfsburg for the UK yet, we expect to start having them from week 24 and will update you as yours is confirmed.  Your order, placed on 1st May, is estimated to be built in week 30 but this estimate may be off by 2 weeks either side based on past orders.  Demand for DSG is currently high so may require an estimated additional week."

Now why the hell can't they get their act together and do that?  Or does the fact that they seem not able to imply that actually they don't know how many build slots they have... or worse, they don't know how many orders they have!?!?!?!

EDIT:
Feel free to direct him to me and I'll go over to VWUK and set their system up for them.  I want my GTI for free in return. :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 11:47
Bear, he sort of answered the first part of your question - by basically saying that the factory do what they want and do not always inform the UK team.  So when they tell us something it is what they've been told - but it could then get changed the next day by the factory who don't tell them everytime they make a change.  Seems a bit strange to me.

As for the second part, who knows.  Yes, it should be simple!  I forgot to put originally that he tried to fob me off with a BW of 28 by saying that there are other orders in the UK to consider.  What, 6 weeks of orders before mine?  I don't think so!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 11:56
Bear, he sort of answered the first part of your question - by basically saying that the factory do what they want and do not always inform the UK team.  So when they tell us something it is what they've been told - but it could then get changed the next day by the factory who don't tell them everytime they make a change.  Seems a bit strange to me.

Thats an explanation but hardly an excuse.  Have they heard of networked computer systems in Germany?  They don't even have to update them more than once a week or once a fortnight.  Just tag a qualifier on the end of the statement "Information correct as of XX/XX/XXXX, next update in Y days."  Sounds like what he is saying is that "No one has any idea when any of you can expect your cars because the guys who know change their mind every now and then and never tell anyone else that they have done."  That is a systems failure.  They should have this as a very high priority on whatever corrective action process VWUK operate (because its impacting many customers and future business should automatically be at the top).  I'm assuming they operate one of course, dunno what to say if they don't.

To be honest what I think is going on here is a chronic lack of giving a damn about telling the customer anything.  As I said before, if they wanted to they could have a system of the kind I outlined up and running very easily.  These people seem to think that what we're upset about is that we can't have our toys now and we're going to scream and roll on the floor until we get them.  Why can they not understand that we are grown ups who just want to know the truth, not be kept in the dark because they are afraid we might be disappointed by the truth!

As for the second part, who knows.  Yes, it should be simple!  I forgot to put originally that he tried to fob me off with a BW of 28 by saying that there are other orders in the UK to consider.  What, 6 weeks of orders before mine?  I don't think so!

Yeah thats a stupid excuse from him.  I'm week 37 right now (others are even worse off).  Are there really 4 months worth of orders to process before mine?  Does he know how many UK cars are being built per week?  I can only assume it is in the region of 5 based on this...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 11:58
Special orders like my dad seems to have gotten (to make up for an error made) seems to muddy the waters relating to waiting times also when they can add in a last minute order to right a wrong.

Was given the impression that if I hadn't seen the tracking discrepancy that i'd be none the wiser when my dad's correct car came through a few weeks after mine. It does mean though that the tracker does seem to be very accurate, as the reason for my dad's order anomaly is now known.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 31 May 2013, 12:00
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Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 12:11
What's the latest order number here somewhere around the 232415xx range?

Delays have to be down to allocation for GTI and GTD. Order 23241655 is for a VW Golf SE 150TDI and it's already in confirmed build status - how long ago can that have been ordered? Not long i'm guessing as I can't get the tracker to give me anything beyond 23241669 (which is a GTD BTW)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 12:20
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So you got told BW26 and now you're confirmed. Hoping to see my status change in the next day or so seeing as dealer and VW UK have both told me BW26 and I was first order at my dealership.  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Golf7 on 31 May 2013, 12:35
What's the latest order number here somewhere around the 232415xx range?

Delays have to be down to allocation for GTI and GTD. Order 23241655 is for a VW Golf SE 150TDI and it's already in confirmed build status - how long ago can that have been ordered? Not long i'm guessing as I can't get the tracker to give me anything beyond 23241669 (which is a GTD BTW)

Good theory but not correct. My order, placed with the dealer on 8th April is for a GT 150TDI, order number 232080xx and it has been on 'Processing your order' since I received my order number on 12th April. I am told by VWUK that I have an unconfirmed BW27.....
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 31 May 2013, 13:07
Bear, yes I totally agree.  Their systems do not favour the customer whatsoever.  But do they really care?  No, as they'll always be someone to buy a new GTI.

Plus, let's not forget, the UK is hardly high up on Europe's Christmas card list.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 31 May 2013, 13:16
What's the latest order number here somewhere around the 232415xx range?

Delays have to be down to allocation for GTI and GTD. Order 23241655 is for a VW Golf SE 150TDI and it's already in confirmed build status - how long ago can that have been ordered? Not long i'm guessing as I can't get the tracker to give me anything beyond 23241669 (which is a GTD BTW)

Good theory but not correct. My order, placed with the dealer on 8th April is for a GT 150TDI, order number 232080xx and it has been on 'Processing your order' since I received my order number on 12th April. I am told by VWUK that I have an unconfirmed BW27.....

I'm order number 2325XXXX and was also told BW27 but i'm not going to hold my breath  :sad:

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 31 May 2013, 13:22
Who do you guys speak to at VW?

My salesman is on holiday so I thought I would try getting an update from VW. VW customer services were so unhelpful and told me they don't give estimated build weeks. When I said I had an unconfirmed BW from my dealer she said I would have to speak to them....

Thanks for the customer service VW!?!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 13:23
Plus, let's not forget, the UK is hardly high up on Europe's Christmas card list.  :sad:

True.  The sooner they realise that they're better off letting us run everything for them the better!  :grin: :grin: :grin:

But of course I jest (or do I :evil:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 13:24
Who do you guys speak to at VW?

My salesman is on holiday so I thought I would try getting an update from VW. VW customer services were so unhelpful and told me they don't give estimated build weeks. When I said I had an unconfirmed BW from my dealer she said I would have to speak to them....

Thanks for the customer service VW!?!

VW on Twitter are good.

twitter@volkswagon.co.uk
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mackandmark on 31 May 2013, 13:40
Bill, I've asked the same question 3 times and they have never given me a definitive answer.

They are stringing us along!!
Our cars will be ready when they want them to be, nothing we can do in the meantime
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 31 May 2013, 13:43
I was given BW 25 now I'm told it is BW 36.
The dealer said that because I had added Rear Camera  (after much- not possible, VW will not allow with Park Assist etc. etc. eventually ok to add) that this would put the BW back by a couple of weeks, but he is amazed of the extra 11 weeks..
My number is 2317****
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 14:11
I was given BW 25 now I'm told it is BW 36.
The dealer said that because I had added Rear Camera  (after much- not possible, VW will not allow with Park Assist etc. etc. eventually ok to add) that this would put the BW back by a couple of weeks, but he is amazed of the extra 11 weeks..
My number is 2317****

If you got a part ex in I would imagine your dealer is just as annoyed, copping for 3 months extra depreciation against it. Even so, 11 weeks for addition of a camera takes the piss.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Flintymutt on 31 May 2013, 15:44
I'm not sure if this is the case all over the uk but I was told that if I placed an order today I'm now looking at December delivery!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 31 May 2013, 16:03
What's more "Laughable" is that I received an automated email from my dealer today with a link to the New GTi advert on YouTube (Basically the Vegas one but now with some hillbilly singers added for comedy value) basically saying "BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO OWN THE NEW GTi!!!" Please contact us for further information

I nearly choked on my cornflakes!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 31 May 2013, 16:27
I was given BW 25 now I'm told it is BW 36.
The dealer said that because I had added Rear Camera  (after much- not possible, VW will not allow with Park Assist etc. etc. eventually ok to add) that this would put the BW back by a couple of weeks, but he is amazed of the extra 11 weeks..
My number is 2317****

If you got a part ex in I would imagine your dealer is just as annoyed, copping for 3 months extra depreciation against it. Even so, 11 weeks for addition of a camera takes the piss.

No p/ex  so no problem for the dealer ..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 18:02
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 18:21
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.

Here's a question.  If every time any of us changes something, or just some random fault happens like with MH and his dad, and then several orders get bumped back... who is the unknown beneficiary????  I mean, someone must have their order bumped forward right?  Or do the Germans just get an extra half hour lunch break each time this happens?  I suppose if everyone moves forward one slot then few people will actually change BW.  Although I'm still unsure that there are more than 5 build slots for the UK each week anyway!

If it were due to general delays then that implies that it is only when we make a change that we discover these longer waits, but that we're all constantly being pushed further and further back anyway, but no one is telling most of us.

Hmm...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 18:28
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.

Here's a question.  If every time any of us changes something, or just some random fault happens like with MH and his dad, and then several orders get bumped back... who is the unknown beneficiary????  I mean, someone must have their order bumped forward right?  Or do the Germans just get an extra half hour lunch break each time this happens?  I suppose if everyone moves forward one slot then few people will actually change BW.  Although I'm still unsure that there are more than 5 build slots for the UK each week anyway!

If it were due to general delays then that implies that it is only when we make a change that we discover these longer waits, but that we're all constantly being pushed further and further back anyway, but no one is telling most of us.

Hmm...

Mine might've officially had another change in the cock-up as my dad's 5 year warranty had been inadvertantly added to my car in error and removed. If it wasn't removed in the same step as changing my car colour from DBP to TR then it probably was considered an extra change. Not sure why an extended warranty added or taken away would change their build schedule for that car as it constitutes no physical components, unless they really do take more care with the 5 year warranty cars (as someone here joked about ages ago).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 31 May 2013, 19:01
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.

Here's a question.  If every time any of us changes something, or just some random fault happens like with MH and his dad, and then several orders get bumped back... who is the unknown beneficiary????  I mean, someone must have their order bumped forward right?  Or do the Germans just get an extra half hour lunch break each time this happens?  I suppose if everyone moves forward one slot then few people will actually change BW.  Although I'm still unsure that there are more than 5 build slots for the UK each week anyway!

If it were due to general delays then that implies that it is only when we make a change that we discover these longer waits, but that we're all constantly being pushed further and further back anyway, but no one is telling most of us.

Hmm...

Mine might've officially had another change in the cock-up as my dad's 5 year warranty had been inadvertantly added to my car in error and removed. If it wasn't removed in the same step as changing my car colour from DBP to TR then it probably was considered an extra change. Not sure why an extended warranty added or taken away would change their build schedule for that car as it constitutes no physical components, unless they really do take more care with the 5 year warranty cars (as someone here joked about ages ago).

Well I thought extended warranty only had to be added before first registration, meaning you could wait until its on the boat and then add it.  Ergo it should in no way impact the build at all, so there should be no delay.  If things were logical that is.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 31 May 2013, 21:33
I had a call from my dealer and he stated wk 27 which is exactly what VW UK told me. Means im looking at delivery approx end of July. Still may change though
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 22:04
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.
it had better fu**king not!!  :evil: I'm seriously pi**end off with the whole thing. total and utter cock up from day one. nothing we specify should hold up any build. they knew people would be ordering and they will have known or had a pretty good idea what popular options would be specced. I'm already on wk34 which is 8 past monkeyhangers dads and my order was 2nd. if they have fu**ed up at the dealership then that's not my fault so why should I be penalised!! I'm ringing tomorrow to cancel!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Nuggsy71 on 31 May 2013, 22:25
Popped into benfield at silverlink  tonight, they have the blue 5dr gti as a demonstrator, very nice. They might be clueless, but I was told if I ordered, delivery would be around September! I ordered mine from Pullman in durham on 6th may, and to be fair to them, they told me at the time, delivery would be about end of August / mid September. So all in all, if it arrives before then, I'll be happy. I was also told no orders for gtd would go on system until bw22.
All in all, yes I can't wait. But it's not unexpected!
This board is making me sleepless and irritable !!
Think I'll have to go to parents and pinch some of their pills.
Chill everyone. If we cancel orders, what else would you order? The skoda yeti? It's the best car supposedly!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 22:36
Problem is nuggsy I ordered mine on 2nd April a month before you and you've been told august/September. when I ordered mine I was told late June early July. so the fact I've ordered a month before you means f*** all. I would expect delivery of mine to be before yours but it looks unlikely seeing as though Sunderland appear to be totally inept at changing an existing order. I know its my first new car ever but the customer service/experience is shocking.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Nuggsy71 on 31 May 2013, 23:05
Totally understand your frustration. information from everyone is total crap.
the amount of money everyone is dishing out, i work for a housebuilder, and if we treat customers like this we wouldnt sell anything!
who would buy a house not knowing the spec, does it come with a kitchen, how many bedrooms?

on another note, the gtd now has sales literature at the dealers. does anyone know what colour red the car is in the literature? its red and looks amazing!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 31 May 2013, 23:19
considering its the 2nd biggest purchase the majority of people will make besides a house VW's customer service is nothing short of total rubbish. why make people think they can have a car in June when in reality it's likely to be September. piss poor and nowhere near good enough!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 31 May 2013, 23:33
Just had my dealer on the phone.

For some unbeknown reason my build week has dropped back to BW27 from BW26 and my dad's special order replacement is scheduled for week 30 apparently. Very apologetic about it all and gave my dad the option of taking the black one without paying for the metallic paint charge if he doesn't want to wait 5 weeks.

I'm guessing that this cock up with my dad's car has now screwed the allocation for Sunderland branch. now i'm second order (behind the black one) i'm guessing that's why I have been put back a week. I hope that under the circumstances my dad's replacement red one (just been given a new correct order number for it) isn't considered an allocation car that could affect mcmaddys build date negatively.
it had better fu**king not!!  :evil: I'm seriously pi**end off with the whole thing. total and utter cock up from day one. nothing we specify should hold up any build. they knew people would be ordering and they will have known or had a pretty good idea what popular options would be specced. I'm already on wk34 which is 8 past monkeyhangers dads and my order was 2nd. if they have fu**ed up at the dealership then that's not my fault so why should I be penalised!! I'm ringing tomorrow to cancel!!

The rogue order that was my dad's is now 1st in the queue. If changes are made and that bumps the car then I really don't understand why what was order 3 (after yours and mine) is now at the front of a queue of 4 when it has changed once itself (colour from TR to DBP). Officially mine has had the same change (exact opposite, from DBP to TR), although due to the cock-up I think mine has changed later from DBP to TR than what was my dad's car TR to DBP (in error).

Trouble with all this is that officially there is nothing wrong. They'll argue that a car isn't late until it has been allocated a build week officially that hasn't been met. Some lucky sod is going to get the DBP one with almost no waiting. Pulman Sunderland are keeping the order and will most likely sell it with no discount due to the lack of waiting time for it. Mick was very apologetic but did reiterate a few time that it was the admin lass who cocked up and it's the first time she has done so. Must have been confusing for her to deal with 2 orders that have the same name against them (my dad has the same full name as me).

Didn't get any offers of goodwill apart from my dad having the option to take the black one at no extra cost for the paint and then the red one would become a stock car instead.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 09:43
maybe the black one will be a demonstrator? I'm not blaming Mick its just piss poor all round from VW. the mis information and bullsh** ordering is the worst I've ever come across. it still says on sale June and when I ordered was told end of June early July. September isn't acceptable.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 June 2013, 15:35
maybe the black one will be a demonstrator? I'm not blaming Mick its just piss poor all round from VW. the mis information and bullsh** ordering is the worst I've ever come across. it still says on sale June and when I ordered was told end of June early July. September isn't acceptable.

From what Mick said they'll get it in to sell at full sticker price and someone will take his hand off for it to avoid the wait. All my dad would've had out of the compromise was getting the pearl paint he didn't ask for, for nowt - even that was subject to Mick's manager's approval. We need some people ahead of us to make some changes to their car and push them down the queue behind us! Maybe that's how some cars can be bumped up the queue as all the change people get bumped back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 16:49
but if it goes on dealership allocation then somethings gone wrong somewhere. wouldn't surprise me if Durham have bumped our orders for customers there.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:23
Durham has its own allocation that's separate from sunserland
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 17:24
cheers for the info George. nice to get something from the horses mouth  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:27
Durham got demo as our sales are much higher than sunderland's. high throughput dealers are the only ones getting demos as demand is high
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 17:31
would that mean that Sunderland's sales will be in a pecking order with VW?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:35
No just they may not get as many to sell as Durham as their are are smaller retailer than them
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 01 June 2013, 17:35
Durham got demo as our sales are much higher than sunderland's. high throughput dealers are the only ones getting demos as demand is high

At point of ordering my dad's GTD (3 of us in by then), my salesman reckoned Durham hadn't sold one GTI/GTD at that point. I could understand Durham getting the Demo as Pulman group as a whole were allocated a demo and management perhaps decided to stick it in their flagship Durham branch. Maybe Durham sell more VWs as a whole even if they aren't GTI/GTDs and that's the deciding factor?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:41
Demo allocation went on individual retailer sales
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 17:41
to be honest George the service department is the only reason I come to Durham as the sales side are rubbish. don't return phonecalls, know nothing about the cars, send you texts 6 weeks after the order books have opened for gtd/gti's, can't even be bothered to work out finance figures properly. the list goes on.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 01 June 2013, 17:43
to be honest George the service department is the only reason I come to Durham as the sales side are rubbish. don't return phonecalls, know nothing about the cars, send you texts 6 weeks after the order books have opened for gtd/gti's, can't even be bothered to work out finance figures properly. the list goes on.

As you know I'm not with sales but with service so not going to comment on their performance  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 01 June 2013, 17:45
probably best not to on an open forum haha :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 03 June 2013, 14:11

Well, I'm back to week 28 according to my dealer this morning.... even after a change of colour last week when it went back to 34!  So fingers crossed.....  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 03 June 2013, 15:13
I really don't understand what's going on at VW. Just got a callback from them. Still provisional 28, brought forward from BW39 (wtf first time I've heard this  :shocked:)

Now the interesting part - factory shut down is from BW29 - so there's f7ck all chance of me getting my car soon, as even if its been built on the Monday of BW28, it'll sit in the factory for at least 2 weeks after that.

Additionally, the chap tells me no BWs are confirmed for the GTI as its official launch isn't until June 18th. I thought it was June 1st?!

All in all, I'm pretty confused/hacked off with VW at the moment.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 03 June 2013, 15:28

Oh bugger, didnt twig that the shutdown would effect it. Is wk 29 definitely the first week of the shutdown? I was told last week of July and first two of August...? ie Week 31-33. With the first week open after the holiday being 34. So we may still be in luck!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 03 June 2013, 15:42

Oh bugger, didnt twig that the shutdown would effect it. Is wk 29 definitely the first week of the shutdown? I was told last week of July and first two of August...? ie Week 31-33. With the first week open after the holiday being 34. So we may still be in luck!

I would expect shutdown won't affect a finished car. If it is finished and left the factory gates before they shut down then it will get transported normally. Shutdown is just for the factory - get the lines cleared so you can get at the equipment and services (compressed air lines for the airgun tooling, electricity, any piped fluids etc) for routine annual preventative maintenance, line modifications etc.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 June 2013, 15:48
Oh no not again.  Why can't we get the same answer from everyone in VW instead of each time getting a conflicting response??

If they can't even agree on when the shut down is what hope do we have of getting reliable information on build and delivery? haha, I'm off to top myself.  No wait, scratch that, I'm off to email my dealer for an update.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 03 June 2013, 16:35
Ok I asked my dealer if I was first order with them.  They didn't answer exactly but here I what I got back:

Quote
The GTI/ GTD was orderable if I remember rightly as of the end of March, so yours was ordered within the first month when we had factory slots, hence why it has a scheduled week. People who place their orders now are experiencing even further delays as we currently have no factory allocation.

I've replied asking specifically if this implies that an order placed now with a dealer who has not yet had any orders would be able to get an earlier build slot.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Berelli on 03 June 2013, 16:44

Oh bugger, didnt twig that the shutdown would effect it. Is wk 29 definitely the first week of the shutdown? I was told last week of July and first two of August...? ie Week 31-33. With the first week open after the holiday being 34. So we may still be in luck!

Hang on, mines due for BW33, while they are on holiday. Who is going to build it, two week temporay staff? The steering wheel will be upside down etc........oh no!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 03 June 2013, 16:52

As Bear said, does no one at VW know or tell the truth about what is actually happening with the GTI orders!!  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 03 June 2013, 22:43

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 03 June 2013, 22:54

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.

When did you place your order Joe?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 03 June 2013, 23:13

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.

When did you place your order Joe?

I placed the order on 26th April. Did it via Drive-the-deal.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 03 June 2013, 23:27
My car has disappeared off the order tracker. Brilliant.  :cry: :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 03 June 2013, 23:51
My car has disappeared off the order tracker. Brilliant.  :cry: :angry:

Don't worry. It happened to me for a couple of hours then it reappeared
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 June 2013, 01:12

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.

Woo! Congratulations.

When you get it you gotta come back here and post LOTS of pics and reviews.  The rest of us will be going crazy knowing there are some on the road if we don't hear about it. Heh heh
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 04 June 2013, 07:28
I have had an estimated  build week of 38 for my GTD.  Order was placed 03/05/13.  Here's hoping it moves forward a little and not back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 09:18
My car has disappeared off the order tracker. Brilliant.  :cry: :angry:

Don't worry. It happened to me for a couple of hours then it reappeared

You're right, its back today.  What's that all about?  I assume some sort of update??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 04 June 2013, 10:06

I got an email from my dealer confirming build week 25!

He said I could potentially have it by mid-July. Here's hoping.

Fairly basic spec - Three door, CSG, PP and Discover Nav.

Woo! Congratulations.

When you get it you gotta come back here and post LOTS of pics and reviews.  The rest of us will be going crazy knowing there are some on the road if we don't hear about it. Heh heh

I certainly will. I can't wait!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 04 June 2013, 10:25
My car has disappeared off the order tracker. Brilliant.  :cry: :angry:

Don't worry. It happened to me for a couple of hours then it reappeared

You're right, its back today.  What's that all about?  I assume some sort of update??

I was hoping it was an update but nowt changed with mine yet. Still processing  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 04 June 2013, 10:29
I haven't got a confirmed build week online yet. But my sales guy called me up out the blue on Friday, saying that my GTD 'Was going in to build soon' and that he was expecting it Mid-Late August.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 10:42
I was hoping it was an update but nowt changed with mine yet. Still processing  :sad:

Yeah me too, first thing I did this morning when I woke up was check it as thought its got to be doing an update on my order.  Alas, as with all things VW recently, I was let down and there was no movement nor additional information.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 June 2013, 11:45
I was hoping it was an update but nowt changed with mine yet. Still processing  :sad:

Yeah me too, first thing I did this morning when I woke up was check it as thought its got to be doing an update on my order.  Alas, as with all things VW recently, I was let down and there was no movement nor additional information.  :sad:

It does seem like when this happens it precedes an update (note H5-O's thread where a few are appearing as recognised for the first time).  However, I don't think it indicates an update to any specific order, just an overall update or maybe just busy server.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 12:31
Interestingly, my dealer has just emailed me.  I'm still showing provisional BW28 (which if it stays that way I'm reasonably happy with given other's horror stories). However, he said that it was a good job we ordered when we did as orders he's placed after mine are showing BW37 and beyond - that's a September build  :shocked:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 04 June 2013, 12:43
Went into my dealer yesterday to test drive their demo (I'll write up a review later on when I get a mo). Latest update with regards to BW is 28 much like yourself. So in the space of a few weeks its gone from 37 to 27 to 25 back up to 28????

What he did point out was that although the car may only take a day or so to be built it may take upto four weeks before being shipped. Apparently these car container ships can hold upto 30k plus cars & only set sail when full. So it could be sat waiting on the docks for god knows how long? All he knows is that's its now going to be August delivery.... :whistle: that's not a problem I've waited so long already, I'm passed caring...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JoeGTI on 04 June 2013, 12:59
Went into my dealer yesterday to test drive their demo (I'll write up a review later on when I get a mo). Latest update with regards to BW is 28 much like yourself. So in the space of a few weeks its gone from 37 to 27 to 25 back up to 28????

What he did point out was that although the car may only take a day or so to be built it may take upto four weeks before being shipped. Apparently this car container ships can hold upto 30k plus cars & only set sail when full. So it could be sat waiting on the docks for god knows how long? All he knows is that's its now going to be August delivery.... :whistle: that's not a problem I've waited so long already, I'm passed caring...

Yep, my car was built on Wk20, over 2 weeks ago and is awaiting shipment. The dealer isn't expecting to see it for at least another week.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 13:04
Went into my dealer yesterday to test drive their demo (I'll write up a review later on when I get a mo). Latest update with regards to BW is 28 much like yourself. So in the space of a few weeks its gone from 37 to 27 to 25 back up to 28????

What he did point out was that although the car may only take a day or so to be built it may take upto four weeks before being shipped. Apparently this car container ships can hold upto 30k plus cars & only set sail when full. So it could be sat waiting on the docks for god knows how long? All he knows is that's its now going to be August delivery.... :whistle: that's not a problem I've waited so long already, I'm passed caring...

My BW has swung around just like yours.  Your point regarding delivery is spot on, I always work to 4 weeks (including the build week) if you're lucky, usually its 5 weeks.  So for me and you on BW28 that's the first week of August at best to take delivery.  Which is annoying as I want it yesterday but at the same time it will be a month earlier than my mk 6 took (ordered same time in April 2009) - so although VW seem to have royally f7cked up the mk7 launch they're actually doing a month better than the previous model....so should be applauded??  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 04 June 2013, 13:21
Going from week 25 (probably) to 26 and then 27 (27, if I get tracker status change this week, seeing as it is BW23). Was a little annoying but then I realise that i'm currently in a cracking car and that's not a bad position to be in for this wait. Something happened with the Roc yesterday, it was running way better than normal - felt like it had an extra 20PS, far more responsive than normal and economy was through the roof too. Caned it on my 12 mile commute home and still got 55mpg for the trip. If only it ran like that every day - the weather was really nice yesterday, nothing else changed with the car or driving conditions.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 04 June 2013, 13:26
It seems that there is quite a few of us now around the estimated bw of 27/28 so hopefully fingers crossed we will all be taking delivery of our shiny new cars end of July/beginning of August  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 04 June 2013, 14:03
It seems that there is quite a few of us now around the estimated bw of 27/28 so hopefully fingers crossed we will all be taking delivery of our shiny new cars end of July/beginning of August  :smiley: :smiley:

The only silver lining I can glean from this is, if mine stays at delivery in September/October, at least I'll still have something to look forward to while you guys put miles on your cars!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 04 June 2013, 14:36
that's a September build  :shocked:

Yes, thanks for reminding me. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 04 June 2013, 14:41
that's a September build  :shocked:

Yes, thanks for reminding me. :angry:

 :grin: Sorry Bear!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 05 June 2013, 11:44
Changed my colour to Carbon, dealer says it won't alter the build week and also said my BW is showing 27, do I believe that?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 June 2013, 11:52
Changed my colour to Carbon, dealer says it won't alter the build week and also said my BW is showing 27, do I believe that?

Two and a half months earlier than me and you're just down the road :cry:.  I ordered a fortnight earlier too.

But, a few of us seem to have BW in the 26-28 range so you could have been lucky here and got a good slot.  If so it should show up BW confirmed on the tracker within about a week from now I would expect.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 June 2013, 11:56
Changed my colour to Carbon, dealer says it won't alter the build week and also said my BW is showing 27, do I believe that?

I wouldn't believe it. According to my dealer when explaining the cock-up that led to my dad's car changing colour instead of mine, they couldn't change the order a week before "build week confirmed" shows up on the tracker, let alone just before.

What's your tracker status (assuming you have an order number to submit)?

If you're BW27 your tracker status should be updated this week (4 weeks before actual build it should go to "build week confirmed") and at this stage it's likely already scheduled by Wolfsburg. If it''s scheduled then you can't change colour, if it's not scheduled then you can change colour, but that would mean it's at least 4 weeks from being built. If my dealer is correct about locking an order out a week before we see the tracker change then that would imply your car won't be built as early as BW27 if you are still able to change the colour.

Try VW UK for an answer which may be more or less plausible than the one your dealer gave you. Give it a day or 2 after colour change and give them a ring. They should be able to confirm your colour change as gone through and your estimated (if not confirmed) build week.

When I changed my colour, the tracker took 3 weeks to update - not sure how much that was due to the dealer mix-up between mine and my dad's GTD and how much was down to the time it takes for the tracker to update any colour or other option changes.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 05 June 2013, 11:59
Order has now dropped off the tracker, was there before I changed the colour, I may regret this.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 05 June 2013, 12:07
The dealer said my car was on status 10 so was able to change the colour and the system accepted it, so that must mean the car is at least 4 weeks from build. I know if a car is at status 20 it can't be changed as that's what happened to my UP! I had on order, that was built 2 weeks later.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mjh_056 on 05 June 2013, 12:21
One thing I am quite happy about is not being part of this order madness as must be driving you all nuts and very poor on VW part given ££ being spent - My lease expires at a set time in October and on that day and not a moment before cars will be exchanged.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 05 June 2013, 13:31
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 05 June 2013, 13:33
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)

BW37 takes you to week commencing 09 September, minimum of 2 weeks after that for delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 05 June 2013, 13:48
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)

BW37 takes you to week commencing 09 September, minimum of 2 weeks after that for delivery.

Bugger (maths never my strong point) suppose it gives me a few extra weeks of saving!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 05 June 2013, 13:50
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)

That'll be the 2nd week in October for delivery, at the earliest.  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 June 2013, 14:43
Been to see my dealer today and mine is showing as wk 37 at the moment, so looking for the end of August (was told July originally). Taking one out for a test drive tomorrow so at least I get to have a go in one before mine arrives (if it ever does!)

That'll be the 2nd week in October for delivery, at the earliest.  :sad:

I'm BW37 at the moment and mid October is the earliest anticipated delivery for me.  :cry:

Welcome to the club.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: DougL on 05 June 2013, 15:22
I'm interested in how bw37 wishes to a mid October delivery as that week starts on 9th September
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 05 June 2013, 15:28
I'm interested in how bw37 wishes to a mid October delivery as that week starts on 9th September

Long experience is teaching me to assume the longest possible time for each operation.  So in this case:
Ta da!

Yes I really hope it moves faster than that, but even on my last car (which was only 8 weeks estimated from order to collection) I ended up having to add on something like 3 weeks to the "absolute latest" estimated collection.  So now I'm just assuming everything takes the maximum time it might take, and I should probably throw some time in to allow for delays but I can't face doing that! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 05 June 2013, 15:31
I'm interested in how bw37 wishes to a mid October delivery as that week starts on 9th September

1 week to build, minimum 3 weeks to deliver, few days to PDI.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 06 June 2013, 08:24
Order back on the tracker and the colour has changed but still showing as order processing so I don't believe the BW27 quoted by the dealer as that's less than 4 weeks away. Hopefully changing the colour has not pushed the BW back.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 06 June 2013, 18:25
I'm guessing for those of us who were told bw27 if we don't see a change on the track my order website tomorrow then it ain't going to happen?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 06 June 2013, 18:29
I'm guessing for those of us who were told bw27 if we don't see a change on the track my order website tomorrow then it ain't going to happen?

Correct. You should have a confirmed BW by end of play tomorrow. If you haven't then you've been f7cked over & they are telling porkies *shocker* which I surely can't believe  :rolleyes:  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 06 June 2013, 18:37
I'm guessing for those of us who were told bw27 if we don't see a change on the track my order website tomorrow then it ain't going to happen?

Correct. You should have a confirmed BW by end of play tomorrow. If you haven't then you've been f7cked over & they are telling porkies *shocker* which I surely can't believe  :rolleyes:  :whistle:

 :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 06 June 2013, 22:34
When I was out with my dealer tonight for a test drive he was mentioning that my car is build confirmed for week 26 :smiley: and everything is going to plan. Apparently one customer ordered the day before me and he specified DSG yet he hasn't even had a confirmed build week go figure.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 06 June 2013, 22:36
When I was out with my dealer tonight for a test drive he was mentioning that my car is build confirmed for week 26 :smiley: and everything is going to plan. Apparently one customer ordered the day before me and he specified DSG yet he hasn't even had a confirmed build week go figure.

Is yours showing build week confirmed status on the website?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 06 June 2013, 22:38
Honestly I have no idea I've never bother obtaining my order number from the sales team.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 07 June 2013, 07:41
Hi there folks, I'm fairly new to the forum and am loving all the up to date info! I ordered my Carbon Grey GTD on 24th May. Just checked 'Track My Order' which is now showing 'Build Week Confirmed'.  What week will this be? Is this tracker accurate?  My dealer told me I should be good for a mid Sept delivery and that this could possibly even come forward.   :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 07 June 2013, 07:45
Hi there folks, I'm fairly new to the forum and am loving all the up to date info! I ordered my Carbon Grey GTD on 24th May. Just checked 'Track My Order' which is now showing 'Build Week Confirmed'.  What week will this be? Is this tracker accurate?  My dealer told me I should be good for a mid Sept delivery and that this could possibly even come forward.   :smiley:

Just checked mine and it has moved to build week confirmed as well :smiley: :smiley: I was told bw27 which it appears on target for which means delivery end of July/beginning of August. I think you would be looking at the same
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 07 June 2013, 12:09
Congrats both of you!  We're pretty confident that the tracker changes to BW confirmed 4 weeks before the car is built.  If yours just changed its probably BW27.  Might take around 4 weeks to build, ship and collect,  hopefully less, so you should have your car 6-8 weeks ftom now! :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 07 June 2013, 12:16
Congrats both of you!  We're pretty confident that the tracker changes to BW confirmed 4 weeks before the car is built.  If yours just changed its probably BW27.  Might take around 4 weeks to build, ship and collect,  hopefully less, so you should have your car 6-8 weeks ftom now! :cool:

Thanks Bill. Seems really promising. Hope you guys get some better news soon
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Andyduz on 07 June 2013, 18:00
Hi all, I'm a new member so please go easy :smiley:. Ordered a company car GTD today through a lease company and was quoted a 12 week lead time. Either I'm very lucky or they have some sort of advantage due to their buying power?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 07 June 2013, 18:17
Delighted at that.  How will I know when they have started building the car?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 07 June 2013, 18:20
Delighted at that.  How will I know when they have started building the car?

I don't think there is anyway of telling for certain. Just need to watch the tracker for when it moves to 'in transit'. Should be in 4-6 weeks from now I think
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 08 June 2013, 09:16
Hi there folks, I'm fairly new to the forum and am loving all the up to date info! I ordered my Carbon Grey GTD on 24th May. Just checked 'Track My Order' which is now showing 'Build Week Confirmed'.  What week will this be? Is this tracker accurate?  My dealer told me I should be good for a mid Sept delivery and that this could possibly even come forward.   :smiley:

Holy sh!t that was quick! I ordered mine 8 weeks ago and still have 'Order processing'!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 08 June 2013, 18:16
Confirmed BW27 changed yesterday to unconfirmed BW32  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 June 2013, 18:18
Confirmed BW27 changed yesterday to unconfirmed BW32  :cry:

Is everyone beyond BW26 getting put back? When you say confirmed, what that a verbal confirmed or status of the tracker reverted from "build week confirmed"?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 08 June 2013, 18:20
Verbal from the dealer (so who knows)... The tracker has never shown anything but 'processing your order'
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 08 June 2013, 18:28
Verbal from the dealer (so who knows)... The tracker has never shown anything but 'processing your order'

Every update I have had from my dealer has been backed up with a phonecall to VW UK whenever a change was made, to confirm. I have gone from BW25 (anticipated - first order from the dealership), to BW26 (following a colour change request), to BW27 (no changes at my end), to BW33 (no changes at my end).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 08 June 2013, 19:00

After seeing everyone's updates recently I checked with my dealer yesterday and was still week 28 unconfirmed. He's going to check first thing Monday and let me know if any update. Can't believe how much it is changing for everyone! But after a 10 week wait so far I'm hoping it stays and still stays 28 which means around 20 weeks order to delivery,
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 08 June 2013, 21:49
Confirmed BW27 changed yesterday to unconfirmed BW32  :cry:


You're joking? What a p!sstake.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 08 June 2013, 21:54
Wish I was... in the notes it said "Information is not correct and subject to change" (in similar wording to that anyway) dealer says she'll call VW on Monday and get back to me. She said that means it's 'parked' again and could continue to change.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 09 June 2013, 13:24
Spoke to my lovely dealer yesterday and she confirmed that a build date of week 33 was still likely. (Ordered 15th May).

She also mentioned their 1st allocation of GTI / GTD's has ended and any new orders wont see the light of day until Christmas.

And adding the panoramic roof does not delay the order!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 09 June 2013, 20:08
Yeah Valenni Agnews told me the same thing re allocations.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 09 June 2013, 22:54
Yeah Valenni Agnews told me the same thing re allocations.

Did you check out their navy blue GTI? Mmmm really nice, but the blue kills the lines a bit. It suits a brighter colour IMO.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 June 2013, 09:47
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 10 June 2013, 10:03
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 June 2013, 10:08
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

 :grin: I've all ready checked 5 times in the last 2 hours!!

Fingers crossed for both of us then....imagine if one of us gets a confirmed BW and the other doesn't....   :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 10 June 2013, 10:30
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

 :grin: I've all ready checked 5 times in the last 2 hours!!

Fingers crossed for both of us then....imagine if one of us gets a confirmed BW and the other doesn't....   :cry:

I was the same last week guys. Didn't think it was going to happen and then Friday morning there it was  :smiley: Don't be surprised if it doesn't change until Friday but fingers crossed for both of you
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 June 2013, 10:31
Cheers Craig!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 10 June 2013, 18:01
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

 :grin: I've all ready checked 5 times in the last 2 hours!!

Fingers crossed for both of us then....imagine if one of us gets a confirmed BW and the other doesn't....   :cry:

It doesnt bear thinking about. If you by some sheer miracle get a positive confirmation by the end of the week & I don't.....I'm going to be throwing my 'toys' out the Pram!!!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mackandmark on 10 June 2013, 18:14
Big Result today..............estimated build week was 40

Now

34.......Boom (still only estimated but I'll take that) :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 10 June 2013, 18:15
Big Result today..............estimated build week was 40

Now

34.......Boom (still only estimated but I'll take that) :laugh:

Wow!  Month and a half earlier, impressive :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 10 June 2013, 18:19
Ditto @ Gung-Ho  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mackandmark on 10 June 2013, 20:04
Hopefully everyone else will see their's come forward similar to mine

Here's to everyone getting a full 6 weeks shaved off their lead times!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 10 June 2013, 20:05
My dealer emailed today to say my build week has gone back 2 weeks to bw37  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Manchester6 on 10 June 2013, 23:56
Big Result today..............estimated build week was 40

Now

34.......Boom (still only estimated but I'll take that) :laugh:

Wouldnt count on it, my dealer has told me i am estimated bw34 but they already know for a fact this wont be the case as the factory is closed that week. They said they didnt know why they have assigned this build week and they can only tell me as much info as they have. She told me when i ordered on 8 th may it would be aug delivery, she has now told me to plan for oct delivery earliest.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Samj78 on 11 June 2013, 11:11
Just cancelled my order after such poor service from dealership. Think I'll wait now for new golf R which looks amazing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 11:35
Just cancelled my order after such poor service from dealership. Think I'll wait now for new golf R which looks amazing.

Get your deposit back?  What was the reason you cancelled?  The appalling lead times?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ROO1 on 11 June 2013, 12:15
I have cancelled my GTD order too and have been given my deposit back. We agreed that I had been misled after being told to expect the car end June..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AndyG on 11 June 2013, 12:22
Roo1 what are your plans now then?Are you going to go for another marque or wait till the supply of golfs are more fluent.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 12:46
I wonder how many people have cancelled now?

I just checked through my calender and realised I am now one week further from my estimated delivery date now than I was a month and a half ago when I first ordered! :shocked:  i.e. After waiting about 6 weeks I am now 7 weeks further from getting the car, not 6 weeks closer. :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mackandmark on 11 June 2013, 13:10
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I wonder how many people have cancelled now?

The more the merrier I say Bill, that way maybe those of us left will get theirs a little bit quicker  :laugh: :evil: :laugh: :evil: :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 11 June 2013, 13:14
I just can't understand the delay in delivering these cars. Just on the track my order website and according to stats, VW (ignoring their subsidiaries) build 18,000 cars every weekday  :shocked: It's clear they have built a hell of a lot of demo models already so they clearly have the manufacturing process up and running without any glitches so why this delay! It just seems ridiculous and its the the UK market that appears to be getting shafted  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 June 2013, 13:17
why dont we find out if vw germany have a twitter page or the head of vw in germany has a twitter page?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 13:19
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I wonder how many people have cancelled now?

The more the merrier I say Bill, that way maybe those of us left will get theirs a little bit quicker  :laugh: :evil: :laugh: :evil: :laugh:

Yes! :grin: .... and no :sad:.

I think this greatly depends on what a dealer does with a cancelled order.  I see three options for them:

Only in option 3 would we get our cars quicker, and there is no benefit to the dealer by doing this.  I think much more likely is option 1 or 2.  This way they get a new order, and can probably offer much less discount as people will be keen to jump the queue.

Expect to see more happy new members on this forum posting about their June or July orders arriving a few weeks later in August while those of us who ordered 2-3 months before them still have 3 months to go before we see our cars.  I expect nothing less from VW based on their levels of service (or lack of anything of the sort) so far.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 13:21
why dont we find out if vw germany have a twitter page or the head of vw in germany has a twitter page?

Or his email address.

Or far far better yet his postal address.  A series of polite and purely factual letters from a set of unhappy customers would be the best way to make him sit up and take note.

Shall I draft a template? :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 11 June 2013, 13:47
I also think it's important to note that if anyone who cancels their expects VW to mourn, then think again. They can't make enough cars as it is, so cancelations won't effect them.

Now, my current car goes back on the 6th of July, so I am off to arrange a short term lease with someone while I wait for my GTD in September / October.  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 11 June 2013, 14:28
why dont we find out if vw germany have a twitter page or the head of vw in germany has a twitter page?

Or his email address.

Or far far better yet his postal address.  A series of polite and purely factual letters from a set of unhappy customers would be the best way to make him sit up and take note.

Shall I draft a template? :whistle:
Yeah why not. We just want some basic information of how things are what they are. Whats the hold up etc, why do we get different information from VW UK. Its not doing the brand any favours with existing customers or prospective customers.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 11 June 2013, 14:33
Just to update everyone on my GTD.

I called my dealer today to add the climate windscreen to my build. An hour later my sales guy called me back, saying that my car has been allocated a build slot, and unfortunately that they cannot make alterations at this stage. This falls in line with the courtesy call from him 11 days ago advising me it would be getting a build week soon.

My order tracker is still saying "Order Processing". So it might be that your guys' online tracker just hasn't been updated yet, as it seems mine hasn't.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 June 2013, 15:00
Word of warning re: complaining.  My dealer mentioned yesterday that VW were unhappy about my level of chatter on twitter/email regarding my order.  So much so that they were considering cancelling it  :shocked:

Now, I don't believe they would go this far.  Especially as I have never been abusive/rude/moany on twitter or via email.  I've only asked why the delay on my order, why the provisional BW keeps changing and why I cannot be given a confirmed BW.  I believe it to be scare tactics to stop me harassing them.  Thing is, its sort of worked - as last thing I want is to have my order cancelled.  So, from now on (and call me a p7ssy if you so wish! :laugh:) I'm going to leave them alone and take my car when it comes.  Unless of course they change my BW again in which case I will become a keyboard warrier  :evil:

The point being therefore is this: they don't give a flying f7ck whether orders are delayed/wrong etc etc.  Because there is always someone else wanting to take the car.  And you get it when you get it.

And as much as I do not like being in the dark regarding delivery times, especially with such a large purchase, I am going to keep schtum for the time being in terms of corresponding with them.

(I'm calling myself a p7ssy right now  :laugh:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 11 June 2013, 15:11
I wonder which term in your contract allows VW to cancel if they think you're complaining too much?  I'd be having a careful look.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Lagerlout on 11 June 2013, 15:14
I suspect if they did cancel your order, you may have quite a bit more to say on twitter etc afterwards?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 June 2013, 15:18
If it was cancelled, yes I would be having a serious look at the contract!

Also, yes, I would be going to town on twitter if they'd cancelled it.  Fortunately this is not happening!  :smiley:

Clearly they are not happy about people asking questions and highlighting the delay in orders.  The simple answer to this is to avoid delays in the first place!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: casablanca3 on 11 June 2013, 15:20
so your dealer has complained about your complaining.

boy do they know how to sell cars.

would you consider their complaining as intimidating or threatening.

I'm sure dealers have a code of conduct to comply with and I would be suprised if this encourages complaining about a complainee( if there is such a word)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Chriscav on 11 June 2013, 15:24
VW UK are great arent they?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 15:26
I wonder which term in your contract allows VW to cancel if they think you're complaining too much?  I'd be having a careful look.

They always have a get out of jail free term that is so broad to allow them to cancel for any reason they like.  Really pisses me off about big companies.  They want a term in there so they can always pull out with no consequences, yet they put in as much as possible to shaft you if you want to pull out.  Even if you leaving would be justified, and them leaving would not be.

Anyway, I will take matchboy's warning and resist the temptation to write to VW.  However, threatening a customer like this is hardly improving their image!  And didn't you just write a glowing review of the GTI which they retweeted matchboy?  How is it they publicise your opinions when they are positive about VW, but use threats to shut you up when they are negative?

Too much power.  Seriously, regulators should be stopping this kind of behaviour.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 June 2013, 15:48
so your dealer has complained about your complaining.

boy do they know how to sell cars.

would you consider their complaining as intimidating or threatening.

I'm sure dealers have a code of conduct to comply with and I would be suprised if this encourages complaining about a complainee( if there is such a word)
I didn't feel intimidated BUT I was shocked that they could do that, or at least had threatened to.  It certainly put me in my place as it were.

To be fair to the dealer though, once I explained to him that I hadn't complained and that I was only after a reason why my provisional BW had gone from 28 to 26 and also why it still wasn't confirmed (even now!) he agreed with me that he would have done the same thing.  I do not have an issue with my dealer, he has been great.  Which is why I'm using them after my last GTI.  My issue is with VW; I have never been rude or abusive to them, you don't get anywhere being like that.  But VW UK told me in an email that my order was BW26 & highly unlikely to change - then it changed to BW28 and I wanted to know why, from them. 

Basically VW don't like the hassle.  So they tried to pass the buck onto the dealer, which is not the issue.  Deal with it, if you mess people around then they will want to know why!  All anyone on here is asking for is clarity.

Still, once I get my car this will be a distant memory.  Unfortunately these companies hold all the cards and there's not a lot you can do.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 11 June 2013, 18:10
Build week 22 to 27 to 35 if lucky,what a shambles :angry:,if I continue with the order I think this will be the last VW I buy
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 11 June 2013, 18:24
I just got an email from my retailer informing me that my provisional build week has been brought forward from 38 to 32...a step in the right direction at least.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 11 June 2013, 18:37
I just got an email from my retailer informing me that my provisional build week has been brought forward from 38 to 32...a step in the right direction at least.

I got a phone call from VW sales Manager the salesman was to scared to ring me  :grin:,i placed my order on the 31/3/13 when did you place yours ?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 11 June 2013, 18:39
I just got an email from my retailer informing me that my provisional build week has been brought forward from 38 to 32...a step in the right direction at least.

I got a phone call from VW sales Manager the salesman was to scared to ring me  :grin:,i placed my order on the 31/3/13 when did you place yours ?

Early April, but I did change the spec a bit afterwards.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 11 June 2013, 18:49
The worrying thing is I don't have any faith in VW and I expect the dates to change again and for the worst,i have kept my order the same as the day I placed it so I don't understand how they could get it so wrong. :sad: Bunch of muppets  25 weeks from order to delivery
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 11 June 2013, 18:58
Yup, it's a complete and utter joke, and I say that to VW and my dealer every time I speak to them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 11 June 2013, 19:09
Build week 32 wouldn't that be during the factory shut down :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 11 June 2013, 19:21
Word of warning re: complaining.  My dealer mentioned yesterday that VW were unhappy about my level of chatter on twitter/email regarding my order.  So much so that they were considering cancelling it  :shocked:

Now, I don't believe they would go this far.  Especially as I have never been abusive/rude/moany on twitter or via email.  I've only asked why the delay on my order, why the provisional BW keeps changing and why I cannot be given a confirmed BW.  I believe it to be scare tactics to stop me harassing them.  Thing is, its sort of worked - as last thing I want is to have my order cancelled.  So, from now on (and call me a p7ssy if you so wish! :laugh:) I'm going to leave them alone and take my car when it comes.  Unless of course they change my BW again in which case I will become a keyboard warrier  :evil:



The point being therefore is this: they don't give a flying f7ck whether orders are delayed/wrong etc etc.  Because there is always someone else wanting to take the car.  And you get it when you get it.

And as much as I do not like being in the dark regarding delivery times, especially with such a large purchase, I am going to keep schtum for the time being in terms of corresponding with them.

(I'm calling myself a p7ssy right now  :laugh:)

I warned you and all the other moaners about this before you spat at me.

It is what it is for all GTI 7 orders, be patient or take your custom somewhere else  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 11 June 2013, 20:10
No one is moaning.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 11 June 2013, 20:12
Running Man: so people should just roll over and let VW UK and their dealers walk all over them and treat them like dirt?

You seem oddly passive when it comes to getting decent customer service and standing up for yourself as a consumer, not to mention a bit superior when you pontificate to everyone else about why they're in the wrong and why you're (always) right.  Why is that, precisely? 

People are spending £25000 or more on these cars - are they not entitled to be treated with respect?  Do you think that VW/a dealer throwing their toys out of their pram because of a few emails is acceptable?  Do you think that dealers should be allowed to ditch orders because they can't be bothered dealing with a customer who sends them an email asking why their build week moves seemingly every other day?  I get the impression you do, and that nothing the dealer can do is wrong in your eyes.  People want to be informed - what's wrong with that?

There's a reason why the UK consumer gets shafted by companies such as VW.  People like you are part of that reason.  But you don't see it, which is perplexing.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 11 June 2013, 20:36
I think what Running Man is saying is there's no point complaining because we won't get our cars any faster for doing so.

We can kick up a fuss all we want but unfortunately as we've seen it gets you nowhere.

I'm just not getting stressed, doing so will seemingly get us nowhere.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 11 June 2013, 22:55
I think your confusing moaning & complaining with querying & wanting concise information. The last two are things I expect when spending 30 grand.

Either way Running Man I will continue my pursuit of answers should I be dicked around again regardless of any threats. My post was merely there for information should others complain instead of query.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 09:13
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

So today's the day!  And my my status is......still processing  :rolleyes: :angry: :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 13 June 2013, 10:09
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

So today's the day!  And my my status is......still processing  :rolleyes: :angry: :cry:

Have you still not got tomorrow? I think quite a few of them seem to change on a Friday.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 10:22
Have you still not got tomorrow? I think quite a few of them seem to change on a Friday.

Oh, I thought it was a Thursday it changed on!  I'll cheer up for 24 hours then!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:07
Got an update from Lisa,

Apparently my estimated BW is changing a lot so she doesn't want to give me an answer that is invalid next week.  I pressed a bit and was told it is changing between 37 and 39.  Might come forward or might... (she left me to guess the last part).

Pretty disappointed to hear that, particularly the bit about 39.  I had been told 37 last time by my dealer, so I was hoping she was going to say something like it is varying between 30 and 36, not that what I was told by my dealer (which is already ridiculous) is now the "best case".

If when I ordered someone had said it would be October I'd have laughed in their face.  Not sure I can cope with it becoming November, which a BW of 39 is dangerously close to.  That would be over 7 months from order to delivery!  Its all the worse because some of us are getting their cars in the next few weeks and Lisa still can't give a reason why some are being built now and others don't even have a BW yet... the familiar refrain of "DSG" is getting thin. :angry:

EDIT:
I actually cannot believe VW have a 7 month lead time on DSGs.  Its obviously not that.  I should have pointed this out to Lisa but I was coming to terms with the fact that yet again another week has passed yet my BW has been pushed back by another two weeks.  At this rate by November I'll be looking at an estimated 2015 delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 13 June 2013, 12:27
Got an update from Lisa,

Apparently my estimated BW is changing a lot so she doesn't want to give me an answer that is invalid next week.  I pressed a bit and was told it is changing between 37 and 39.  Might come forward or might... (she left me to guess the last part).

Pretty disappointed to hear that, particularly the bit about 39.  I had been told 37 last time by my dealer, so I was hoping she was going to say something like it is varying between 30 and 36, not that what I was told by my dealer (which is already ridiculous) is now the "best case".

If when I ordered someone had said it would be October I'd have laughed in their face.  Not sure I can cope with it becoming November, which a BW of 39 is dangerously close to.  That would be over 7 months from order to delivery!  Its all the worse because some of us are getting their cars in the next few weeks and Lisa still can't give a reason why some are being built now and others don't even have a BW yet... the familiar refrain of "DSG" is getting thin. :angry:

EDIT:
I actually cannot believe VW have a 7 month lead time on DSGs.  Its obviously not that.  I should have pointed this out to Lisa but I was coming to terms with the fact that yet again another week has passed yet my BW has been pushed back by another two weeks.  At this rate by November I'll be looking at an estimated 2015 delivery.

Mine was originally wk37 then moved to wk42 now back to wk39!
Golf GTI - Often Copied, Never Equalled, Never Giving You a Confirmed BW! :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 12:29
Maybe this has something to do with the DSG problem reported yesterday Bear, and the recalls on certain gearboxes??

Either way its yet another slap in the face from VW for you.  7 months for a new car is a joke, its not a Ferrari!!  I'd just try to not let it bother you, it will be worth it in the end - it just doesn't seem like it at the moment.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:30
Mine was originally wk37 then moved to wk42 now back to wk39!
Golf GTI - Often Copied, Never Equalled, Never Giving You a Confirmed BW! :tongue:

What is really bloody infuriating is when a week passes and instead of being one week closer to picking up my new car I find I'm one week further from it!  The fact that VWUK seem completely unable to get an answer from Germany on what the hold us is just rubs salt in the wound.  Always blaming it on DSG is easy for them, but makes no logical sense to me.

EDIT:

Maybe this has something to do with the DSG problem reported yesterday Bear, and the recalls on certain gearboxes??

Wait, what is this?  Not heard this...

Has anyone who ordered a DSG got a BW earlier than 37?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 12:38
More VW BS:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/vw-uk-no-dsg-recall-required
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:46
More VW BS:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/vw-uk-no-dsg-recall-required

It says its specific to "temperate countries" then excludes the UK from requiring the recall.  I think they're confused about what "temperate" means.  Anyway, this is the 7 speed dry box, not the 6 speed wet one the GTI has.

Based on the "fast and fun" car rank in another thread perhaps I should cancel the GTI order and go for a Cayman.  By the time my GTI arrives I'll have saved enough for a Cayman anyway if it continues at this rate!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 13 June 2013, 12:46
So I should be getting a confirmed BW this week, as its BW24.  I'm going to hedge my bets and guess I'll be disappointed come close of play on Friday  :cry: :rolleyes:

Me and You Both.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us!!! I'm checking my religiously on the hour....EVERY hour...  :grin:

So today's the day!  And my my status is......still processing  :rolleyes: :angry: :cry:

If it makes you feel any better mate, mine is still showing "Processing!".... No matter how many times I hit the 'Submit' button it's not making the slightest bit of difference!  :grin:

I'm horrified with the latest problems concerning the DSG box!!! Even though VW UK assure us its a problem associated with hotter & dustier environments I'm not convinced. I knew I should have stuck with the manual.  :sad: Glad to hear its the 7 speed and not the 6 speed though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:51
I'm horrified with the latest problems concerning the DSG box!!! Even though VW UK assure us its a problem associated with hotter & dustier environments I'm not convinced. I knew I should have stuck with the manual.  :sad:

You ordered DSG and were told to expect BW28?  Can't be my DSG that is delaying me to BW37-39+ then, like VW keep implying!!  FFS.

Also is it not 7 speed DSG that is the problem not the 6 speed in the GTI.  I wouldn't worry too much.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 12:55
I don't think there's a problem with the GTI DSG, but they have a problem with the other DSG boxes = delays in the factory, which therefore affects all our orders.

VW are saying the problems are climate specific.  So what they are saying is that the climate in New Zealand where there's been issues is different to the climate in the UK.  Which it isn't.  It's pretty much the same.  As I said, total BS.

Gung-Ho, I've been checking every hour - I'm now at the stage that every time I see 'Processing' I'm telling the screen to 'F7ck Off' - I think its making me lose my marbles!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 12:59
I'm now at the stage that every time I see 'Processing' I'm telling the screen to 'F7ck Off' - I think its making me lose my marbles!  :laugh:

I've been there for some time mate. :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 13:06
I'm now at the stage that every time I see 'Processing' I'm telling the screen to 'F7ck Off' - I think its making me lose my marbles!  :laugh:

I've been there for some time mate. :sad:

There should be some kind of focus group to deal with our problem!!

I've mixed it up a bit now, just looked again and this time it was a 'F7ck You' to the screen  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 13 June 2013, 13:10
I'm now at the stage that every time I see 'Processing' I'm telling the screen to 'F7ck Off' - I think its making me lose my marbles!  :laugh:

I've been there for some time mate. :sad:

There should be some kind of focus group to deal with our problem!!

I've mixed it up a bit now, just looked again and this time it was a 'F7ck You' to the screen  :smiley:

Patience pal  :smiley: Tomorrow will be the day  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: OF1 on 13 June 2013, 13:12
I think your confusing moaning & complaining with querying & wanting concise information. The last two are things I expect when spending 30 grand.

Either way Running Man I will continue my pursuit of answers should I be dicked around again regardless of any threats. My post was merely there for information should others complain instead of query.

I don't think I am Matchboy. People are moaning and complaining because they aren't getting clear and concise information.

Again I would say that doing so, unfortunately and as ridiculous as it is, still isn't getting us the information we want. Fair enough to you for pushing hard but as I said i'm just not going to get worked up about it, as like I said it's 'probably' not going to make a difference.

I must say though that as for customer service it's been pretty shoddy. Problem is I want my GTD too much, so it's not like I can threaten them with cancelling my order. I'll end up with a car I don't really want.

I'd also just like to add - I got my build week confirmed by my dealer at 38 yesterday. Which is mid September for a mid October delivery. On my order confirmation it states the estimated delivery date as 01.08.13.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 13:15
I must say though that as for customer service it's been pretty shoddy. Problem is I want my GTD too much, so it's not like I can threaten them with cancelling my order. I'll end up with a car I don't really want.

I do agree that there is no point cancelling, as they won't care and you'll end up with a car that isn't a GTD or a GTI - and therefore that we will just have to wait!  But some of the stories on here, even Bear's today, are outrageous - and not right.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 13:16
Patience pal  :smiley: Tomorrow will be the day  :wink:

I don't have any patience at the best of times lol! Ah well, all good things come to those who wait!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 13:40
Patience pal  :smiley: Tomorrow will be the day  :wink:

I don't have any patience at the best of times lol! Ah well, all good things come to those who wait!  :rolleyes:

Sorry to interrupt you and bear's 'love in' but I wanted to congratulate you on using your common sense and relaxing if only momentarily.  Well Done  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 13:42
Well.... I don't really see it as moaning and complaining.  I see it as letting off steam to people who will understand.  Ok, perhaps we have been straying towards complaining here.  But it is mentally hard to handle feelings of irritation without an outlet, and since VW don't seem to understand (Lisa is trying but still) the only way to put a smile back on my face is to make a post here and have someone agree!  Can't do that with VW as they DO think we're complaining.  :tongue:

I just wish they could give us some actual information rather than this "wait and see, might come forward, might go back, who knows?" stuff...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 13:54
Ah, Running Man, back again to troll the thread without actually answering any points directed at you over the last few days.  How we've missed you.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 13:59
Ah, Running Man, back again to troll the thread without actually answering any points directed at you over the last few days.  How we've missed you.  :smiley:

Remind me what questions?   :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 14:06
Running Man: so people should just roll over and let VW UK and their dealers walk all over them and treat them like dirt?

You seem oddly passive when it comes to getting decent customer service and standing up for yourself as a consumer, not to mention a bit superior when you pontificate to everyone else about why they're in the wrong and why you're (always) right.  Why is that, precisely? 

People are spending £25000 or more on these cars - are they not entitled to be treated with respect?  Do you think that VW/a dealer throwing their toys out of their pram because of a few emails is acceptable?  Do you think that dealers should be allowed to ditch orders because they can't be bothered dealing with a customer who sends them an email asking why their build week moves seemingly every other day?  I get the impression you do, and that nothing the dealer can do is wrong in your eyes.  People want to be informed - what's wrong with that?

There's a reason why the UK consumer gets shafted by companies such as VW.  People like you are part of that reason.  But you don't see it, which is perplexing.

@RunningMan
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 14:13
Running Man: so people should just roll over and let VW UK and their dealers walk all over them and treat them like dirt?

You seem oddly passive when it comes to getting decent customer service and standing up for yourself as a consumer, not to mention a bit superior when you pontificate to everyone else about why they're in the wrong and why you're (always) right.  Why is that, precisely? 

People are spending £25000 or more on these cars - are they not entitled to be treated with respect?  Do you think that VW/a dealer throwing their toys out of their pram because of a few emails is acceptable?  Do you think that dealers should be allowed to ditch orders because they can't be bothered dealing with a customer who sends them an email asking why their build week moves seemingly every other day?  I get the impression you do, and that nothing the dealer can do is wrong in your eyes.  People want to be informed - what's wrong with that?

There's a reason why the UK consumer gets shafted by companies such as VW.  People like you are part of that reason.  But you don't see it, which is perplexing.

@RunningMan

 :whistle: mate, you'll get your car one day and when you have it, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time stressing over something that was out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...I'm worried about you.  Take care buddy  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 14:22
As pointed out pages ago my friend, I am not worried nor stressed & neither do I think I have wasted my time.  And even if I had, its my time to waste and I do with it what I please.

In fact, it could be pointed out that it is indeed you who has wasted his time, posting these negative comments that no one is listening to.  But to tell you what to do with your own time would be very arrogant of me, and I wouldn't possibly be so far up my own ar7e to do that.

So thanks for your concern, but I'm fine & dandy bud.  :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 14:37
:whistle: mate, you'll get your car one day and when you have it, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time stressing over something that was out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...I'm worried about you.  Take care buddy  :wink:

:whistle: mate, you'll stop making these kind of posts one day and when you do, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time telling others how they should behave which is out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...Understand that your posts are coming across as patronising, and that is unhelpful.  Take care buddy  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 14:46
:whistle: mate, you'll get your car one day and when you have it, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time stressing over something that was out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...I'm worried about you.  Take care buddy  :wink:

:whistle: mate, you'll stop making these kind of posts one day and when you do, you may look back and realise you wasted a lot of time telling others how they should behave which is out of your control and influence.  Relax.......deep breath...Understand that your posts are coming across as patronising, and that is unhelpful.  Take care buddy  :wink:

This should be renamed Bear & Boy's forum :grin:

Relax boy's you clearly are listening to me  :whistle:

All the best boys anyway :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 14:52
This should be renamed Bear & Boy's forum :grin:

This must be some ingenious joke that I'm too thick to follow. :undecided:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 14:54
This should be renamed Bear & Boy's forum :grin:

This must be some ingenious joke that I'm too thick to follow. :undecided:

I think RunningMan is a sandwich short of a picnic so I wouldn't worry what he says Bear!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 15:08
Well I'm going to forgo posting anything further in this thread for today in the hopes that the situation will become de-flamed...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 13 June 2013, 16:47
I have ordered the winter pack also with cloth seats.  I looked on VW configurator today to check if it is still available with cloth seats.  It seems there are 2 options.  Winter Pack with Leather and just plain old Winter Pack.  So it seems you can get Winter Pack still with Cloth Seats. 

They really need to set in stone the options available in the UK and leave it at that.  Things keep changing all the time, I haven't even got my car yet. 

I am still on Build Week 34.  The week has not budged in a while since I was initially told Week 22 a month or two ago, so fingers crossed it stays at Week 34 or moves to an earlier date which I doubt. 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 17:03
So it seems you can get Winter Pack still with Cloth Seats.

Correct.  Although why anyone would pick winter pack with leather is unclear since all it gets you are heated washer nozzles, which are apparently useless because the supply lines to them are not heated and will become frozen anyway...  VW aren't in a hurry to explain this to customers though.  I had to explicitly point it out to my dealer who was happy to read out the description and price as if it was a bargain.  Was only when I asked why I should pay £350 or whatever the MY14 cost now is just for washer jets that they seemed to click that it might not be good value. :laugh:

They really need to set in stone the options available in the UK and leave it at that.  Things keep changing all the time, I haven't even got my car yet.

Agreed, its not like it would take them much time to fix it either!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 13 June 2013, 17:41
If you don't laugh you will cry.  I choose to laugh at the moment.  It is getting so bad now I am even waiting for the Jacky Keyring I ordered over a month ago from the VW accessories store.  It's a keyring which stated 10 days to deliver and I still have to wait for it this long after I ordered it (well over a month).  So everything I have ordered from VW I am waiting for with no idea of when it will be delivered, both car and keyring alike. 

Honda were not at all like this when i ordered the limited edition Type-R championship white. They only made 600+ and It was a breeze ordering and getting dates fixed as I ordered.  Then all I had to do was go in on the day and pick it up. Also it only took 3 months from order to delivery.

   
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 17:45
LOL, didn't know there was a delay on keyrings too!  Maybe they are saving delivering it until your car is ready...

Which one did you get?  Can't see a GTI keyring on the VW site.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Running Man on 13 June 2013, 17:56
So it seems you can get Winter Pack still with Cloth Seats.

Correct.  Although why anyone would pick winter pack with leather is unclear since all it gets you are heated washer nozzles, which are apparently useless because the supply lines to them are not heated and will become frozen anyway...  VW aren't in a hurry to explain this to customers though.  I had to explicitly point it out to my dealer who was happy to read out the description and price as if it was a bargain.  Was only when I asked why I should pay £350 or whatever the MY14 cost now is just for washer jets that they seemed to click that it might not be good value. :laugh:

I would listen to bill, he is very knowledgable
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 13 June 2013, 18:30
I ordered the GTI Jacky Keyring.  However on you saying you could not see it anywhere, I just had a look online and....   

...Oh great it has now been taken off of VW Online Store.  Bloody marvellous.  I so want my GTI or anything I have ordered from VW but I am getting severely tempted to buy a Honda Type-R again next time after the GTI I have on order.  I have never known anything so vague. 

I am now going to ask for my money back from the VW store for the Key Fob and order it from USA. They have hundreds of the Jacky GTI Key Fobs in store.  Why is VW UK so ill equipped at present.  The GTI is such a potentially great car being tainted with uncertainty and vagueness of orders.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 13 June 2013, 19:01
I has to cancel my order today to. They are no longer making the product :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 13 June 2013, 19:13
It would be nice to have been told though.  If I hadn't checked today, I don't know when I would have been informed by VW Store.  When I emailed them last time they took almost a week to get back to me. 

I guess I will have to now just sit and wait to see if my car will appear on the date given by VW. 

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 13 June 2013, 19:34
Spoke to my dealer again today, it's now gone to prov week 40! :o 
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 19:35
Spoke to my dealer again today, it's now gone to prov week 40! :o

Remind us what it was before...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 13 June 2013, 19:47
Spoke to my dealer again today, it's now gone to prov week 40! :o

Remind us what it was before...


Was 36 then 38 then 39 and now 40, he told me he'll e-mail them on monday when he gets in but they'll most likely fob him off, i asked if he'd heard anything with regards delays for any reason and he said no, he said it must be the PP but has no evidence to support that and said the system didn't say anything about a delay if the pack was added.


He told me to give them a call but don't expect much! ;D

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 13 June 2013, 20:04
I'm going to make a wild prediction now but I'm guessing from the stories posted today that all orders are being out back at least 2 weeks, probably 4. Brilliant.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 13 June 2013, 20:09
Was 36 then 38 then 39 and now 40, he told me he'll e-mail them on monday when he gets in but they'll most likely fob him off, i asked if he'd heard anything with regards delays for any reason and he said no, he said it must be the PP but has no evidence to support that and said the system didn't say anything about a delay if the pack was added.

He told me to give them a call but don't expect much! ;D

Damn.  I thought it had come forward for a minute.

Also, since your spec is so similar to mine this does not bode well for me either!  I have a bad feeling about this...

EDIT:
Dave's is in transit now and he ordered PP...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 07:46

So are we expecting estimated week 28s to be confirmed today then?? May report in to my salesman this morning....  :drool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 14 June 2013, 07:52

So are we expecting estimated week 28s to be confirmed today then?? May report in to my salesman this morning....  :drool:

Have you checked the track my order website?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 08:29

So are we expecting estimated week 28s to be confirmed today then?? May report in to my salesman this morning....  :drool:

Have you checked the track my order website?

 :cry: Crap!!! No change.... I give up...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 14 June 2013, 08:32
I ordered the GTI Jacky Keyring.  However on you saying you could not see it anywhere, I just had a look online and....   

...Oh great it has now been taken off of VW Online Store.  Bloody marvellous.  I so want my GTI or anything I have ordered from VW but I am getting severely tempted to buy a Honda Type-R again next time after the GTI I have on order.  I have never known anything so vague. 

I am now going to ask for my money back from the VW store for the Key Fob and order it from USA. They have hundreds of the Jacky GTI Key Fobs in store.  Why is VW UK so ill equipped at present.  The GTI is such a potentially great car being tainted with uncertainty and vagueness of orders.

It's probably for best - the jacky key fob is way too big and bulky!  Plus the metal part gets scratched and also scratches stuff easily.  I want for a black rubber GTI keyring that shipped from Greece on eBay.  It's like the ED35 keyring, just not as spendy!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: jrc193 on 14 June 2013, 08:37
Just checked website and build week confirmed this am.Ordered via Drivethedeal 21/05 and dealer has been spot on with his forecast that I would know this week with delivery in week28. As I have ordered PP and DSG neither seem to have affected progress
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 08:55
Just to update everyone on my GTD.

I called my dealer today to add the climate windscreen to my build. An hour later my sales guy called me back, saying that my car has been allocated a build slot, and unfortunately that they cannot make alterations at this stage. This falls in line with the courtesy call from him 11 days ago advising me it would be getting a build week soon.

My order tracker is still saying "Order Processing". So it might be that your guys' online tracker just hasn't been updated yet, as it seems mine hasn't.

My dealer told me a few weeks ago that orders are locked out for changes about a week before they will be seen as "build week confirmed" on the tracker.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Neil_MK on 14 June 2013, 09:13
Build week 28 here and order status had changed to 'Build Week Confirmed' when I checked early this morning  :cool:

To be fair my build week has remained fairly constant at week 28 (apart from going BW27 to BW28 early on) and my dealer has always been proactive in giving me weekly updates.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simoor on 14 June 2013, 09:15
Just checked this morning and mine is now "Build week confirmed", Placed my order at the end of March:

Type: GTI - DSG 3 Door
Colour: Oryx White
Options: Leather, Keyless entry
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 09:20

So are we expecting estimated week 28s to be confirmed today then?? May report in to my salesman this morning....  :drool:

Have you checked the track my order website?

 :cry: Crap!!! No change.... I give up...

Me too, so p!ssed off  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 09:23

Mines still not confirmed either even though I was build week 28 last friday... Dealer wil be getting a phone call soon!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 09:28
Got an update from Lisa,

Apparently my estimated BW is changing a lot so she doesn't want to give me an answer that is invalid next week.  I pressed a bit and was told it is changing between 37 and 39.  Might come forward or might... (she left me to guess the last part).

Pretty disappointed to hear that, particularly the bit about 39.  I had been told 37 last time by my dealer, so I was hoping she was going to say something like it is varying between 30 and 36, not that what I was told by my dealer (which is already ridiculous) is now the "best case".

If when I ordered someone had said it would be October I'd have laughed in their face.  Not sure I can cope with it becoming November, which a BW of 39 is dangerously close to.  That would be over 7 months from order to delivery!  Its all the worse because some of us are getting their cars in the next few weeks and Lisa still can't give a reason why some are being built now and others don't even have a BW yet... the familiar refrain of "DSG" is getting thin. :angry:

EDIT:
I actually cannot believe VW have a 7 month lead time on DSGs.  Its obviously not that.  I should have pointed this out to Lisa but I was coming to terms with the fact that yet again another week has passed yet my BW has been pushed back by another two weeks.  At this rate by November I'll be looking at an estimated 2015 delivery.

Definitely not DSG when there are cars like the one my dad is now getting that is DSG - they should look into what they are saying rather than making up an excuse that clearly isn't true on the hope you won't know any better.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 09:34

Week 32 now!!! Ggrrrrrrrrr!!! :cry:  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 09:38

Been told its the climate windscreen delaying it.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 09:54

Week 32 now!!! Ggrrrrrrrrr!!! :cry:  :cry:

BW32 is the first week after the 4 week factory shut down.  I'm going to call my dealer now as I'm expecting the same news.

Basically everyone has been bumped for whatever reason.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 10:17
"Double Crap!" :angry: This is getting Ridiculous!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 10:33
"Double Crap!" :angry: This is getting Ridiculous!!!

Have you been bumped too Gung-Ho?  My dealer is checking and will get back to me today. If I've been moved too, which I am expecting, ill be absolutely gutted.  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 10:59
I've sent my dealer an email this morning. Just waiting on reply?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 11:01
I've sent my dealer an email this morning. Just waiting on reply?

Squeaky bum time  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 11:04
As long as you're all right Jack....

http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/pressroom/volkswagen/pressrelease/view/vw-group-delivers-3-87-million-vehicles-in-period-to-may-876629
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 11:34
As long as you're all right Jack....

http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/pressroom/volkswagen/pressrelease/view/vw-group-delivers-3-87-million-vehicles-in-period-to-may-876629

European VW sales specifically are noticeably down, so there should be plenty of space to fit our GTI/GDTs into the schedule.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 14 June 2013, 11:39
Well for the first time my order number is not recognised. Something changing maybe?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 11:50
Well for the first time my order number is not recognised. Something changing maybe?

The only "Change" I'm getting at the moment, is "Short Changed"....  :grin:

I don't whether to Laugh or Cry at the moment  :cry:  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 14 June 2013, 11:53
Well for the first time my order number is not recognised. Something changing maybe?

The only "Change" I'm getting at the moment, is "Short Changed"....  :grin:

LOL seems that way. Strange that the GTD is delayed, I still think it's down to the engine,  SEAT, VW, Skoda and Audi need to meet their demands. Too many cars, not enough engines!

Also the GTD massively outsells the GTI due to it's rep-mobile status. (like me  :whistle:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 12:13
I've sent my dealer an email this morning. Just waiting on reply?

Squeaky bum time  :laugh:

I don't know what's worse... Waiting for a reply from the dealer? Or waiting for my on-line order status to change? Both appear to take eternity!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 12:58
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 14 June 2013, 13:17
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.

Always happens when you buy a desireable VW at launch. Was lucky with my first Scirocco that it was a cancelled order allocation grab. There was probably someone who ordered it at announcement that was so pissed off with the wait.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 14 June 2013, 13:22
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.

That's shocking!! Did they provide you with an explanation as to why?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 13:24
Nope, nothing. I've got the executive office on the case, I at least want to know why. I'm now looking at an October delivery, instead of early August a month ago. Bunch of (unts.  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 14 June 2013, 13:30
Ouch.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 14 June 2013, 13:36
Nope, nothing. I've got the executive office on the case, I at least want to know why. I'm now looking at an October delivery, instead of early August a month ago. Bunch of (unts.  :angry:

Looking at your spec I can't see any reason for your order being delayed. I can understand why you must be totally pi$$ed off, I would be to.  :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 13:55
Yep, have got nothing fancy specced that would hold the order up. Completely disillusioned with this whole ordeal, I thought the mk6 was bad waiting till mid sep but this takes the biscuit. Nowt I can do though, I'll live in the knowledge that I'm not the only one who's being f7cked over by VW!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 14 June 2013, 15:00
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.

Not As bad as me was BW 25 now BW 36!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 14 June 2013, 15:26
I feel your pain Whiteshirt!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 June 2013, 15:53
:cry: :cry: :cry:

I'm fully expecting my order to be pushed back to week 40-42 soon.  At least this way if it stays at 37-39 or comes forward I'll feel good about it.

Far cry from the promised delivery of around wk30.  I suppose technically it wasn't "promised" but you don't expect to add 3 months to what was already a long wait without at least some sort of explanation.  Best they have come up with so far is "it might be the DSG" and as monkeyhanger pointed out that is BS.

We're just going to have to hang in there.  I've decided I'm still interested in the updates from Lisa every so often but I'm not going to push for an explanation or anything any more as it seems clear now they're not going to offer one, or if they are Lisa will tell me anyway.

I so want this car... VW Y U NO BUILD FASTER?????  November looks a long long way off...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Whiteshirt on 14 June 2013, 16:45
I feel your pain Whiteshirt!

Thanks but not as much as I do...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 14 June 2013, 17:28
Just got off the phone with VWUK to ask if there was any particular reason why my order has now gone to BW40? The answer was "all the GTI's will be allocated bw's together"  :grin:
I told him that i know of a few that are already being built and also a few that have confirmed bw's way before mine and have ordered the same time or later, he then changed the subject to "i have about 10~15 calls a day with the same sort of question" and "he" puts it down to the GTI being so popular! :grin:

He couldn't give me a straight answer apart from you can't order any colours other than those available in the UK. :cry:

I ask ya, what a bunch of numpties!!


Oh well, the wait continues......
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 June 2013, 17:34
Just got off the phone with VWUK to ask if there was any particular reason why my order has now gone to BW40? The answer was "all the GTI's will be allocated bw's together"  :grin:
I told him that i know of a few that are already being built and also a few that have confirmed bw's way before mine and have ordered the same time or later, he then changed the subject to "i have about 10~15 calls a day with the same sort of question" and "he" puts it down to the GTI being so popular! :grin:

What is with the changing the story when you caught him in the ... false info?  Was his first answer the VW official view, but he gave you a more frank answer... though not a more helpful one...?

And so it continues...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 14 June 2013, 17:40
There is a delay on DSG as it is the same gearbox used on all brands so the allocation of boxes when made is spread across all of them equally.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 June 2013, 17:42
There is a delay on DSG as it is the same gearbox used on all brands so the allocation of boxes when made is spread across all of them equally.

Ok, but even if true that doesn't explain why an order placed a month ago is to be built in a month, while orders placed 2 months ago have another 4 months to wait. What happened to first come first served?  I don't think dealer allocation can make up the difference here!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Blades72 on 14 June 2013, 19:08
VWUK on twitter announce the 30th million Golf rolled of the production line today. Pity they can't hurry up with our GTI's.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redpoppies on 14 June 2013, 19:10
I have read all your post with interest and thought it would be helpful if I added my experience so I have registered on your forum.

I ordered a 5 door DSG with leather and ACC on 10/4/2013. The order notification commitment date was 1/7/2013. The subsequent unconfirmed build week from the Dealer until last week was week 27. The unconfirmed build date from dealer today was week 39. The Dealer said they have not been ( presumably from VW UK) given any specific reasons as to why there are delays and that all dealers are in the same boat.

I will update whenever I receive a revised date.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 14 June 2013, 19:44
Ok, so instead of being confirmed BW28 today I've now been bumped to BW35. This is a f7cking p!sstake. To say I am livid is an understatement.

Way I'm feeling, this will be the last VW I ever buy.

Same as me build week 22 to 27 to 35 and all they can say is its because of the factory shutdown,I pointed out this was only 4 weeks not 13.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 20:40
The ironic thing is... When I sat down & placed an order with my dealer back in March, he was pretty confident that it would be a June delivery... Worse case scenario was July at the latest!  It couldn't be further from the truth.  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 14 June 2013, 22:32

Same here Gung-Ho.... And to top it off, after speaking to vw today who told me 32, and that they have no idea where my dealer got 28 from, I got an email from him this evening saying it was still 28 though not confirmed! So I really have no idea what the hell is going on!! Why would my dealer lie! As he's too embarrassed to tell me it's changed again for the worse? Part of me now really couldn't give a flying and just wants to forget about the car!! Argrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrhhhhh!!  :cry: :cry: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 14 June 2013, 23:25
That new Mercedes CLA looks awesome!  :wink:

Seriously though, it does, and I am tempted.  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 14 June 2013, 23:30
I have read all your post with interest and thought it would be helpful if I added my experience so I have registered on your forum.
Welcome! Join in the ...err...fun! :wink:

I ordered a 5 door DSG with leather and ACC on 10/4/2013. The order notification commitment date was 1/7/2013. The subsequent unconfirmed build week from the Dealer until last week was week 27. The unconfirmed build date from dealer today was week 39. The Dealer said they have not been ( presumably from VW UK) given any specific reasons as to why there are delays and that all dealers are in the same boat.
Sounds familiar.  I'm also 5dr DSG leather ordered in April, and now sitting pretty on wk39.

I will update whenever I receive a revised date.
Look forward to it, hope you get moved forward again as an early order no reason you should be waiting so long!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 14 June 2013, 23:40

Same here Gung-Ho.... And to top it off, after speaking to vw today who told me 32, and that they have no idea where my dealer got 28 from, I got an email from him this evening saying it was still 28 though not confirmed! So I really have no idea what the hell is going on!! Why would my dealer lie! As he's too embarrassed to tell me it's changed again for the worse? Part of me now really couldn't give a flying and just wants to forget about the car!! Argrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrgrhhhhh!!  :cry: :cry: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

Yeah. It's a real kick in the "Knackers!"  Couldn't get a reply from my dealer today as he was off. Should in "theory" had a build week confirmation today as I was told week 28 like a lot of you here (I even saw the paperwork with Week 28 written on it, so I knew he wasn't trying to pull the wool over my eyes).

To be honest I don't blame the sales guy as he was only going by what VW UK & his procurement manager was telling him.  I was hoping for a July delivery at the latest as my MOT will need renewing in August & I don't reckon my tyres will last much longer... They're pretty much on the legal limit now.  I'll probably have to replace them if I'm looking at a September delivery.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 June 2013, 09:39
After being in a filthy mood yesterday, with a combination of utter disappointment and extreme anger, reading all your posts has calmed me down a bit. It's clear that for whatever reason we've all been pushed back. Why? Who knows. Ill do my best to find out though.

Bottom line is that there is nowt we can all do.  It's certainly taken the edge off my excitement however, instead of taking delivery in a few months it will now be September/October which feels like such a long way away (probably cause it is  :laugh:). Yesterday I was certainly wishing I'd gone for the A250 AMG instead as I'd probably have it by now. But it's not a GTI, so I'm still glad I didn't.

This forum is great therapy though, it at least helps with the knowledge that I'm not the only one being f7cked over! And it will be worth it when it does turn up - it just doesn't feel like it at the moment  :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 June 2013, 10:53
This forum is great therapy though, it at least helps with the knowledge that I'm not the only one being f7cked over! And it will be worth it when it does turn up - it just doesn't feel like it at the moment  :sad:

Yeah... I know to some reading this thread, we all sound like a bunch of whinging old mothers, regurgitating the same old, same old moot point.  But without a place to vent my frustrations I'd probably have cancelled my order by now. Knowing everyone is in the same boat does make things easier.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 15 June 2013, 11:08
Has anyone who's build weeks have been put back had 'build week confirmed' on the VW tracker? Mine has been showing this for about a week but I have no clue what build week I have been allocated.  Which number should I contact VW on to find this out?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 15 June 2013, 11:20
This forum is great therapy though, it at least helps with the knowledge that I'm not the only one being f7cked over! And it will be worth it when it does turn up - it just doesn't feel like it at the moment  :sad:

Yeah... I know to some reading this thread, we all sound like a bunch of whinging old mothers, regurgitating the same old, same old moot point.  But without a place to vent my frustrations I'd probably have cancelled my order by now. Knowing everyone is in the same boat does make things easier.

Totally agree Gung-Ho - this forum has saved me from cancelling! If I'd home down the A Class route I'd of had it by now then switch over to a GTI next year when they're more freely available. It's too late now to do that so will have to put up with the delay but at least knowing others are in the same boat makes it slightly easier to bear.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jules Winfield on 15 June 2013, 11:24
Has anyone who's build weeks have been put back had 'build week confirmed' on the VW tracker? Mine has been showing this for about a week but I have no clue what build week I have been allocated.  Which number should I contact VW on to find this out?

You should be able to get this information from your dealer - in theory.

0800 0833 920 is the VW customer services number.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Dully on 15 June 2013, 11:40
Guys ...... The more I read all your problems the more I feel some Dealers just make it up as they go along, I also think that they are being led a merry dance by the factory so are probably in a very difficult position. I am not sticking up for them it's just an observation.

This is my situation -

I did not order when the books were first opened as the car is replacing the wife's beloved TT so she wanted to see one in the flesh before we shelled out 30k.

We test drove one last saturday, thumbs up from the wife, deal done on the TT, happy days until we were told delivery would be December earliest and could run in to 2014. Credit to the dealer, they could have just took my deposit and told me anything as I made it very clear that there was no deal at that sort of lead time.

We trawled through the ordering system and he showed me all the available cars I could spec up and they were all december build weeks.

Out of the blue the sales manager said that he had found an order in the system for a car made by their sister branch with a build week of 38. On investigation he confirmed it was an order for a car to stock and not a customer, status in the system was 10 so the spec could be altered. Not too sure how this other branch had not sold it as surely they must have had people making enquiries.

Anyhow, the car was a standard 3 door, red and all it had extra was keyless entry. I changed it to white with PP, ACC and leather.

The strange thing is, I went in yesterday to talk about finance and we checked the system and the build week has reduced to 35!!!!! The status is still 10 and he showed me the box below where the status will change to 20 and there is another date box which will be the confirmed build week.

I am only a week in to my order and will no doubt have more tales to tell!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 15 June 2013, 12:12
Welcome Dully!! Look forward to hearing your 'Woes' in the next coming Days... Weeks... Months.... Years!!!  :grin: Hope you have better luck than the rest of us.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 15 June 2013, 12:18
Welcome Dully!! Look forward to hearing your 'Woes' in the next coming Days... Weeks... Months.... Years!!!  :grin: Hope you have better luck than the rest of us.

Seems like he's already having better luck than the rest of us! :grin:

Welcome. :afro:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 15 June 2013, 13:59
Just had it confirmed from my dealer that I have been allocated build week 28, week beg 8th July.  Anyone have any idea how long it will take from this date to the car being delivered?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 15 June 2013, 14:06
Just had it confirmed from my dealer that I have been allocated build week 28, week beg 8th July.  Anyone have any idea how long it will take from this date to the car being delivered?

Upto 4 weeks.  Might be faster.

That's a good result for you, fantastically early build when did you order?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 15 June 2013, 14:49
I ordered Mid May.  So it's a beg August delivery for wk 28?  I had been told mid Aug when I placed my order so I am quite happy.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 15 June 2013, 14:56
I ordered Mid May.  So it's a beg August delivery for wk 28?  I had been told mid Aug when I placed my order so I am quite happy.

Not surprised if it's a dealer near the Western Isles. Supply and demand.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 15:53
So, just had a call from the very nice man at the VW Executive Office - and some good news at last! Finally, I have a confirmed build week of 33. Although this is 5 weeks from my BW28, because if the 4 week factory shut down its actually only a 1 week delay. He's had it confirmed from Germany that all stock parts have been allocated to my car - so I'm looking at a mid September delivery.

This is some welcome news given the unconfirmed BW of 35 I was given on Friday.  Excitement now ramped up to the max again, let the 3 month wait begin  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 17 June 2013, 17:03
So, just had a call from the very nice man at the VW Executive Office - and some good news at last! Finally, I have a confirmed build week of 33. Although this is 5 weeks from my BW28, because if the 4 week factory shut down its actually only a 1 week delay. He's had it confirmed from Germany that all stock parts have been allocated to my car - so I'm looking at a mid September delivery.

This is some welcome news given the unconfirmed BW of 35 I was given on Friday.  Excitement now ramped up to the max again, let the 3 month wait begin  :laugh:

When exactly does the factory shut down? If your was still BW28 that would have been built the week commencing 8th July therefore you would you not have received you car middle of August. It's my understanding that the factory shut down doesn't affect the shipment of the vehicle but I may be wrong
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 17:20
Factory shut down is from BW29 to BW32 inclusive.  So if mine had been build BW28 ie. the week before the shut down then yes it could have been shipped regardless of the shut down.  But its been moved to the first week after the shut down, so a 4 week minimum delay ie. mid Sep.  This is unfortunate as I obviously wanted it to be built earlier, but I'll take 33 as at least its confirmed now, and given the hassles I've had as have others 33 is as best a result as I could have hoped for!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 17 June 2013, 17:59
Factory shut down is from BW29 to BW32 inclusive.  So if mine had been build BW28 ie. the week before the shut down then yes it could have been shipped regardless of the shut down.  But its been moved to the first week after the shut down, so a 4 week minimum delay ie. mid Sep.  This is unfortunate as I obviously wanted it to be built earlier, but I'll take 33 as at least its confirmed now, and given the hassles I've had as have others 33 is as best a result as I could have hoped for!

Ok, understood. Well at least you now have a confirmed bw and also a nice clean factory for your car to be built in  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 18:01
Haha, good point!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 17 June 2013, 19:34
I still reckon BW33 cars may be ready for the very end of Aug/start of Sept.

If the "for sale" GTI in Benfield is anything to go by, that thing was delivered within 9 days of it's earliest possible build date for a genuine full UK MY14 car (start of BW22).

If my car is built in BW33 and is ready before the end of Aug then i'm waiting to Sept 1st, for the sake of a few days to get the new plate.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 19:44
I still reckon BW33 cars may be ready for the very end of Aug/start of Sept.

If the "for sale" GTI in Benfield is anything to go by, that thing was delivered within 9 days of it's earliest possible build date for a genuine full UK MY14 car (start of BW22).

If my car is built in BW33 and is ready before the end of Aug then i'm waiting to Sept 1st, for the sake of a few days to get the new plate.

I genuinely hope you're right as ill take the car ASAP, the Sep plate isn't what i want: as my dealer' plates start with LO, so in September the plate will be LO53 - which probably isn't the best plate for me given I'm an accountant!!   :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: George k on 17 June 2013, 19:57
It'll be LO63 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 17 June 2013, 20:05
I still reckon BW33 cars may be ready for the very end of Aug/start of Sept.

If the "for sale" GTI in Benfield is anything to go by, that thing was delivered within 9 days of it's earliest possible build date for a genuine full UK MY14 car (start of BW22).

If my car is built in BW33 and is ready before the end of Aug then i'm waiting to Sept 1st, for the sake of a few days to get the new plate.

I genuinely hope you're right as ill take the car ASAP, the Sep plate isn't what i want: as my dealer' plates start with LO, so in September the plate will be LO53 - which probably isn't the best plate for me given I'm an accountant!!   :laugh:

 :grin: :grin: :grin: Snap! I'm an accountant as well. We'll be giving the GTI a bad rep.

p.s. remind me not to get you to do my books, as George K says LO63  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 17 June 2013, 20:35
 :grin: Typing on an iPad, slip of the finger!!  :whistle:

Who said accountants aren't cool?!  :cool: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 18 June 2013, 21:37
Ordered a Golf GTD Vii in Tornado Red supposed to be build week 34 delivery September fingers crossed !
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 18 June 2013, 22:00
Ordered a Golf GTD Vii in Tornado Red supposed to be build week 34 delivery September fingers crossed !

You'll need more than your fingers crossed  :grin: (only kidding mate). Keeping my fingers crossed for you too.... September sounds about the same time as me.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: redgolfgtd on 18 June 2013, 22:04
I think you could be right am tempted to contact the dealer to confirm the dates, leasing sent me a email from them but may leave it a little while saves disappointment
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 19 June 2013, 16:23
Update for you chaps, I guess some of you may have just received a call as well!  Not really good news though.

Got a call from VWUK customer care, they don't expect any updates to my BW any time soon (by this I'm pretty sure they mean "confirmed" updates as they told me it bounces around on a daily basis last time we spoke, and clearly they are not calling me everyday to give an 'update').

So anyway, they say the dealer will know about changes before they do and will get in touch immediately.  Therefore they won't call me every week to tell me "no change".  I asked what their "feeling" was on when an update might happen, all I was told was 3-4 weeks before the BW.

The problem is that the BW is unconfirmed, so subject to sudden and random changes.  I can be sure of an update 3-4 weeks before, but that is 3-4 weeks before an unknown point.  Effectively this means there will be an update when there is an update. :angry: I was hoping they'd be more candid.  Something like "we expect the factory to have largely settled its scheduling in X many weeks time so you might get an update then."

Forever in limbo eh?

Oh yes, and they still don't know what the delay is with "these cars" (referring to mine and others who have contacted them I assume).  As we've noted here it is not the DSG or the sunroof, so there appears to be no logic to why some of us are soon to be built and others are facing 3+ more months before we even get a confirmed BW, let alone delivery!

Its frankly astonishing the degree of opacity they seem to have achieved in this process.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Aidey on 19 June 2013, 16:57
 really disheartening isnt it when the dealer cant give you any info, i also cant get a timescale on my order, i put the order in the last week of march, still no news at all..
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 19 June 2013, 17:54
really disheartening isnt it when the dealer cant give you any info, i also cant get a timescale on my order, i put the order in the last week of march, still no news at all..

Mate you need to phone VW, end of march is earlier than most of our orders - give them a call.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Brenbo on 19 June 2013, 18:01
I ordered mine at end of march and was told build week 22, then changed to build week 34.  Although delayed I did get a timescale to anticipate the delivery.  I would also say give VW a call.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 19 June 2013, 19:39
Thanks for the update Bear... It's incredulous that in this day and age, we can get a Man on the Moon, but can't track a simple VW Order.... The long wait continues  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hobojim on 19 June 2013, 19:57
I don't think we can put a man on the moon anymore. Health and Safety executive say no.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 19 June 2013, 20:29
 :grin: :grin: Ok... Let me rephrase that... How is it we can catapult a small family hatchback onto the surface of Mars, but can't yet track a simple VW Order in Germany?  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hobojim on 19 June 2013, 20:56
:grin: :grin: Ok... Let me rephrase that... How is it we can catapult a small family hatchback onto the surface of Mars, but can't yet track a simple VW Order in Germany?  :grin:

Better  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 20 June 2013, 11:37
Mine is now on it's way. :smiley:

GTI ordered 2nd April. I was given an initial build week of 22, this then changed to 25 and stayed that way. Changed to confirmed about 4 weeks ago, now in transit.


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 11:37
"HOLY SH*T!"..... Just checked the online tracker this morning & its switched to Order "CONFIRMED!" I keep pressing 'Submit' to check I'm not imagining things but its definitely saying 'Confirmed'.... I take back everything I've said.

(Just for those who don't already know, Order was placed on the 29.03.13 for 5dr DSG GTi in Pure White with PP, DCC & 19" Santiago's with Heritage)

Things are looking up! :smiley:

(Knowing my luck it was a glitch in the system & it reverts back to 'Processing' on Monday)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 11:51
If that's correct... I'm possibly looking at Build Week 29/30 (around the middle of July) hopefully before the factory shut down...

Dealer had originally envisaged build week 28, so they werent far out in their estimation.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 12:11
Good news Gung-Ho.

Build week should be 4 weeks from now.
 :drool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 12:22
Good news Gung-Ho.

Build week should be 4 weeks from now.
 :drool:

Thanks Bud..."Fingers Crossed!"
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 June 2013, 12:26
Brilliant news Gung-Ho!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 22 June 2013, 12:27
"HOLY SH*T!"..... Just checked the online tracker this morning & its switched to Order "CONFIRMED!" I keep pressing 'Submit' to check I'm not imagining things but its definitely saying 'Confirmed'.... I take back everything I've said.

(Just for those who don't already know, Order was placed on the 29.03.13 for 5dr DSG GTi in Pure White with PP, DCC & 19" Santiago's with Heritage)

Things are looking up! :)

(Knowing my luck it was a glitch in the system & it reverts back to 'Processing' on Monday)


I hate you! >:(




Only joking! Happy dayz mate! :afro:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 22 June 2013, 12:33
I keep pressing 'Submit' to check I'm not imagining things but its definitely saying 'Confirmed'


That's funny! But I can totally understand lol.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 22 June 2013, 14:00
Just checked mine, magically it too has changed to build week confirmed. Things must be moving in Germany.

Ordered 29/3
Csg pana keyless winter .

 :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 June 2013, 14:15
Gung Ho, dirvy, what were your estimated BWs? Does this mean they have come forward for you guys?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dirvy on 22 June 2013, 15:45
Status on 5th June was estimated week 27 forward from 33
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 16:12
Gung Ho, dirvy, what were your estimated BWs? Does this mean they have come forward for you guys?

Mmmmm... Not really. As I'm sure you're already aware, it jumps around a lot... So its gone from 37... 27... 25... 28 and now 'Confirmed' as of today... Im gonna call the dealer on Monday, but if its true we're looking at four weeks from now which would be week 30 (or 29)??? Would you concur Bear?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 16:50
Status on 5th June was estimated week 27 forward from 33

Appears we both placed our orders at the same time (29.03) and have followed very similar build estimates, although our specs are very different.... Might be just a coincidence.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 June 2013, 18:15
Be aware chaps that the factory is shut for BWs 29-32 inclusive. So you may well get it built before then ie. 28 or after ie 33.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 20:05
Be aware chaps that the factory is shut for BWs 29-32 inclusive. So you may well get it built before then ie. 28 or after ie 33.

Thanks for reminding me Bud!!! :grin: This was exactly what I was afraid of... Week 30 is slam bang in the middle of refurb... I'm hoping mine is closer to the dealers original estimate of 28... It's gonna be a close call.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 22 June 2013, 20:09
Would it be better for them to be built before or after the shutdown? The workers will either be really looking forward to a holiday or really fed up to be back at work!! :D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 20:13
Would it be better for them to be built before or after the shutdown? The workers will either be really looking forward to a holiday or really fed up to be back at work!! :D

Oh "Great!".... You're really instilling a lot of confidence in me.... Whichever way you look at it, it ain't Good!!! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 20:30
Those looking forward to their Holidays will be in the party mood and be "Drucking Funk"!!!.... and those returning from their Holidays will have partied themselves silly and still be "Butt Wasted!"....

So when my steering wheel is fitted upside down I'll know why!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 20:50
Worst build weeks will probably be during Oktoberfest...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 22 June 2013, 20:57
Worst build weeks will probably be during Oktoberfest...


This! ;D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 22 June 2013, 21:01
Be aware chaps that the factory is shut for BWs 29-32 inclusive. So you may well get it built before then ie. 28 or after ie 33.

Thanks for reminding me Bud!!! :grin: This was exactly what I was afraid of... Week 30 is slam bang in the middle of refurb... I'm hoping mine is closer to the dealers original estimate of 28... It's gonna be a close call.

 :grin: this will cheer you up then - I reckon it's BW28 for you as I'm confirmed for BW33 ie first week back and mines still processing on the tracker - so by that reasoning yours will be built before the shutdown as yours is confirmed on the tracker - lucky s0d!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 21:06
Seriously though guys don't worry.
I've been on a couple of Wolfsburg visits and those people are so professional looking its unreal.
Totally calm and just look like they know exactly what they're doing.

A few bad haircuts mind.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: master_hayabusa on 22 June 2013, 21:16
Just be concerned your car isn't built on a Friday.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 21:25
It takes 3-4 days from start to finish so most of us will have a Friday car.

They manufacture around 2000 cars a day  :nerd:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 June 2013, 21:47
Worst build weeks will probably be during Oktoberfest...

Oh great.

They manufacture around 2000 cars a day  :nerd:

And they can't squeeze in a few more GTIs to cope with the demand?  Seriously how many are they making a day?  Seems like 1/2000 is a uk GTI, can't they make it 2/2000... double production! :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 21:53
GTI production is always limited.

Keeps demand high :cool:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 June 2013, 22:01
GTI production is always limited.

Keeps customers pissed off:cool:

Corrected :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 22 June 2013, 22:06
Ahh but happier when you have it :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 22 June 2013, 22:10
Yes :grin:

At that point limited production becomes a boon! Heh heh
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 22 June 2013, 22:13
Ahh but happier when you have it :smiley:

Unless its built on a Friday, or on the last week before factory shutdown or first week of re-opening  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: PARROTMAN on 23 June 2013, 09:31
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Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 23 June 2013, 10:15
You need to get your post count up to 10 then I can PM you.

bluefin is yours.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Hawaii-Five-O on 23 June 2013, 11:46
You need to get your post count up to 10 then I can PM you.

bluefin is yours.

Email him instead. Click his email button :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 08:48
I do wonder when post shutdown builds (like mine) will update to "build week confirmed" on tracker. is it 4 calendar weeks prior to build or 4 production weeks prior to build? If it is the latter then BW33 people should be hearing in BW25 (as there are only BW's 26/27/28 before 33). So far i've heard nowt, but perhaps my build has been pushed back again to 34/35/36?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 24 June 2013, 09:29
I'm in the same boat as you monkeyhanger, I'm going to guess that the tracker is automated so it'll be BW29 before it switches to confirmed. Or not, knowing VW  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 June 2013, 10:23
BW25 was last week, we're BW26 now.  So, the updates should have happened.

Because each order is unique I guess there is a partially manual process before the tracker updates (which I agree with you should be automatic).  I'm guessing when they confirm they have all the bits someone flicks the order state over to some level which triggers the tracker to display BW confirmed.  So, if the people who arrange this are going to be 'away' during the shutdown then we may see the tracker not update during this period.  Am I speculating too much? :grin:

4 weeks shutdown sounds like a lot to me.  I'm doubting VW's suppliers do the same, anyone know otherwise?  The one that would be most interesting is the DSG manufacturer.  If they really are short of these as they claim is August a month to catch up with supply perhaps?

I still have to wait another 2 months after the end of the shutdown to get my DSG though. :cry: Unless they bring it forward, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 11:48
@Bear: 4 weeks shutdown does seem a massive amount. 2 weeks seems the norm for most manufacturing, 3 weeks is what Ford employees get at the Southampton Transit van plant (not this year - it is about to close), I think Nissan Sunderland also get 3 weeks. 4 weeks? Add in Christmas and bank holidays - do they get any days to take off of their own choosing?

If so they must get nearly as much time off as teachers do. If they're working CSP shifts then it could be argued that they get plenty of time off to do stuff every 8 day cycle and so don't need to have any "free choice" holidays.

I suppose admin that would update BW dates may not necessarily be off during the shutdown and so I may see my "build week assigned" status appear on BW29 when the production staff are all off. seeing as it hasn't happened before now.

Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 June 2013, 11:59
For their suppliers though do they even have a shutdown?  The assembly plant yes, but I don't think the component suppliers will do, maybe a week at Christmas since everyone will book holiday anyway...  Suppliers of nuts and bolts and all that crap don't need to close down to maintain their operation.  The DSG supplier might shutdown... I guess not though.  Anyone know?

I agree with you we have to assume the admin guys aren't off, or at least that the job is still being done.  You've got to constantly manage your suppliers and that takes up a lot of time of badgering and chivying and checking and rechecking as I'm sure a lot of us know.  There is no way they're gonna all be off and just have 4 weeks of maybe deliveries will arrive, maybe they won't!

So on that basis I'm guessing its likely the tracker will still be updated.  I'm assuming its probably automatic and basically just reflects information the supply chaps would be entering on the system anyway.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 12:05
Anyone that manufactures anything generally has a shutdown. There are some essential jobs that just can't happen during production and are too long or require too much preparation to be done over a weekend. Good planning and logistics will get around periods of non-production. Saying that, there won't be many places that take a whole 4 weeks off.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 June 2013, 12:13
Yes.  And no.

My own line of work is high tech manufacturing.  The two businesses I've worked for effectively do not have any shutdown, yet are working to tolerances and complexities many many times what VW are doing (we're talkng about nm, not µm  EDIT: actually even µm is probably a couple orders of magnitute smaller than VW look at :tongue:).

Now we tend to have a shutdown at Christmas, but this isn't really a shutdown, its just that too many people want holiday its better to close the whole plant than try to operate at 25% efficiency for 5 days.  In terms of actual shutdown operations, these are either done on weekends, last thing on friday... or most often in parallel with normal operations.

What I'm saying is I don't think any of VW suppliers will have a shutdown like VW do.  Probably not even 1 week.  In rare cases they might close production for a day, but having a scheduled annual shutdown, I don't think so.  But if anyone knows for sure it would be interesting.  The one case I'm not so sure about is the DSG supplier.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 24 June 2013, 13:37
My order has just changed to 'Build week confirmed' on the tracker. Was 27, then pushed to 32... (6 weeks away?) Going to call the dealer and see if they can see any change in build date (fingers crossed!) :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 13:43
My order has just changed to 'Build week confirmed' on the tracker. Was 27, then pushed to 32... (6 weeks away?) Going to call the dealer and see if they can see any change in build date (fingers crossed!) :)

Had to check mine. "Still processing".  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mjh_056 on 24 June 2013, 17:24
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story) Looks like VW want to at least partially still produce during shutdown though imagine there is areas of essential maintenance that this time is set aside for
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 24 June 2013, 18:03
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sns-rt-us-volkswagen-wolfsburg-golfbre95n0iz-20130624,0,1542421.story) Looks like VW want to at least partially still produce during shutdown though imagine there is areas of essential maintenance that this time is set aside for

Article claims its a 3 week shutdown.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 June 2013, 18:23
three weeks is certainly more promising than 4 and if extra production is done maybe our build weeks will come down.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 18:33
three weeks is certainly more promising than 4 and if extra production is done maybe our build weeks will come down.
But if it was always a 3 week shutdown it'll make no odds at all.Trouble with planned shutdowns is that people do make holiday plans, then aren't interested when demand makes management want to have it worked. Happens in our place every year.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 June 2013, 18:49
maybe they'll take on loads of temp workers until the proper workforce get back to make mine haha  :evil:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 24 June 2013, 18:53
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 18:54
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:

Aye, we should know that from the reviews!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 24 June 2013, 18:56
maybe they'll take on loads of temp workers until the proper workforce get back to make mine haha  :evil:

Wouldn't want an inexperienced temp building mine.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 24 June 2013, 18:58
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:

Aye, we should know that from the reviews!

Totally!  I don't think there's a review yet for either the GTI or the GTD that hasn't got at least one error regarding the spec!  Too busy "reporting" on Kayne's new baby or making up a transfer rumour  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 24 June 2013, 21:16
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:
Since when have we believed anything VW say especially VW UK!!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 24 June 2013, 21:34
VW Executive Office told me its a 4 week shut down.  Since when have hacks ever got details right in their articles!  :rolleyes:
Since when have we believed anything VW say especially VW UK!!!

That's a fair point  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 00:30
The article doesn't just say 3weeks, it gives exact dates.  Call me an optimist, I'm going with 3 not 4! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GtG on 25 June 2013, 07:11
Build week that was confirmed yesterday and now showing on the tracker is still BW32. Well at least it's confirmed now :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 25 June 2013, 07:49
The article doesn't just say 3weeks, it gives exact dates.  Call me an optimist, I'm going with 3 not 4! :grin:

Not only does it name the dates, but given the fact that the shutdown ends on the 2nd of August, that implies to me that they only work Monday to Friday rather than a 24/7 CSP pattern. Makes sense I suppose, i'd be far more confident in a car that was build during dayshift than nightshift (if you ever got to know). I used to work CSPs and you aren't very productive in the night!

GtG's post would also imply that the shutdown is only for BW29-31 inclusive (3 weeks) seeing as his confirmed BW is on what would have been the 4th week of shutdown. Also, gettiing confirmed at this stage, 4 production weeks away from actual build (not 4 calendar weeks away) implies to me that my BW33 will be confirmed next week on the tracker if it hasn't slipped another week or 2 since I last checked.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 25 June 2013, 08:30
If GtG has it confirmed that his is BW32 it does imply that the VW Executive Offuce were indeed telling me porkies - shocker - but at least now with mine at BW33 it won't be the first week back from their hols  :wink:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 25 June 2013, 11:38

I'm wk33 now too matchboym, so fingers crossed it now stays that way. Went from 32 to 33 a week ago!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 25 June 2013, 11:44

I'm wk33 now too matchboym, so fingers crossed it now stays that way. Went from 32 to 33 a week ago!

There's quite a few of us at BW33 so that's a good sign, I think! Fingers crossed for all of us!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 25 June 2013, 13:42
My build week 26 jumped to 32 on Friday. Just had an email from the dealer.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 13:45
My build week 26 jumped to 32 on Friday. Just had an email from the dealer.

sh!t.  Sorry for you man.  Did they give a reason?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 25 June 2013, 13:53
My build week 26 jumped to 32 on Friday. Just had an email from the dealer.

The dealer should've heard long before now about the delay, but that's quite a fall back (3 production weeks in reality (if you take the shutdown into account) - any recent order changes at your end?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 25 June 2013, 13:55
Well, my build week is confirmed now according to the online tracker.  I just called my personal contact at VW Customer Services Exec Office, and it is officially (currently!)...

32

So, w/c 5th August, and she told me that unless something major changes, there is no reason that should change.  Looks like delivery around the end of August then...only a couple of months now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 25 June 2013, 14:01
I just hope all these BW32ers being bumped to BW33 aren't bumping my BW33 status to BW34.  :laugh:

Gryzor: If yours is at the dealership for Aug 28th, would you wait 3 days for the new plate or take it there and then?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mk7gti on 25 June 2013, 14:03
No spec changes and ordered in March. The dealer gave no reason only that he was shocked. I'm glad the value of my car is guaranteed. I'm quids in (think of the positives) :smiley:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 25 June 2013, 14:28
I just hope all these BW32ers being bumped to BW33 aren't bumping my BW33 status to BW34.  :laugh:

Gryzor: If yours is at the dealership for Aug 28th, would you wait 3 days for the new plate or take it there and then?

Well..I'm getting a private plate put on it, so from that point of view it makes no difference, and nor does it really affect the residuals.  Right now I'd say no, I'd pick it up as soon as possible.  But, if it came to it and I literally only had to wait 3 more days to officially claim it as a 63 plate car, I may think differently! :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 25 June 2013, 14:33
But, if it came to it and I literally only had to wait 3 more days to officially claim it as a 63 plate car, I may think differently! :grin:

You're thinking like a miserly GTD owner there! :whistle:

If mine is built in week 33 it will be a close call - but if a 2 week delivery is possible/likely then i'll be in that boat and i'll wait (not getting a private plate - so that new plate feeling needs to be exploited  :evil:)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 15:18
32

Remind me what you were estimated before this confirmed came through?

People keep posting their new confirmed dates and I'm pulling my hair out trying to find what their estimates were to see if everyone is bumping forward or back the same amount! haha
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 25 June 2013, 16:58
I've had a couple of missed calls from my dealership today which i've returned and am just waiting for him to get back to me now, here's hoping although the tracker still says processing! :whistle:






Edit: he's just got back and it's gone to BW35 from 40 still unconfirmed but good news none the less!! :)
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 17:32
I've had a couple of missed calls from my dealership today which i've returned and am just waiting for him to get back to me now, here's hoping although the tracker still says processing! :whistle:

Argh!  I saw yor post James and thought, oh good, maybe I'll get an update soon too (since we have similar spec and BW).  Seems like everyone else has heard something recently be it the good news of their car being in transit, or the not so good but still good news of a confirmed BW around 33.

Well, just a few minutes ago I got an email from my dealer. :shocked:  Excitement begins to flow!  What wondrous, or terrible, things might be awaiting within this message?  I opened it... guess what?

My contact at the dealer wishes to inform me they are going on maternity leave.  Dammit!  I was expecting news!  NEWS! :angry:

Ah well, back to the endless wait then. :sad:

EDIT: Just say you jumped forward 5 weeks! Awesome bet you're pretty chuffed with that.  I emailed my new contact at the dealer to 'nudge' them.  They always say they'll let me know as soon as they know but its impossible to sit here knowing nothing while so many people are getting updates!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 25 June 2013, 18:08
Pretty pleased tbh, it basically means i should get the car just a couple of weeks later than i originally wanted it anyway which was the 1st of sept, assuming it doesn't move again that is but my salesman reckons it'll probably stay there now so fingers crossed! :smiley:

Need to start thinking about putting my reg on retention ready for the new one, i've already asked if he'll put my pressed plates on for me? :smug:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 25 June 2013, 18:17
Yeah that's what I want too... Just after 1st sept!  My dealer didn't get back to me and they will have knocked off for the day now.  I'm gonna be so fed up if everyone has moved forward and I'm the only one left on BW39-40.  They keep saying they'll know the instant there is an update and will tell me immediately but somehow I just can't trust it.  If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 25 June 2013, 19:13
If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! :huh:

What does an update taste like then?  :wink: :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 25 June 2013, 19:26
If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! ???

What does an update taste like then?  ;) :-X


VICTORY!!! ;D
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 25 June 2013, 19:56
People keep posting their new confirmed dates and I'm pulling my hair out trying to find what their estimates were to see if everyone is bumping forward or back the same amount! haha

Haha!  Mine was week 38 estimated, brought forward to 32 estimated, then confirmed at 32.

VICTORY!!! ;D

Too right!  :tongue:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 25 June 2013, 20:42
If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! ???

What does an update taste like then?  ;) :-X


VICTORY!!! ;D

Yeah great news Jimble!!! And not before time... Seems to be a lot of activity these past few days.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: dippy_x on 25 June 2013, 20:54

Haha!  Mine was week 38 estimated, brought forward to 32 estimated, then confirmed at 32.


Is this change of fortunes GTI specific or do you think they may share the love with us GTD peons? I have an estimated BW38.  Would love to go down to 32!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 26 June 2013, 09:10
My status changed to 'In Transit' this morning! So looks like my dealers prediction of delivery in mid-July is looking spot on. Can't wait.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 10:03
Is this change of fortunes GTI specific or do you think they may share the love with us GTD peons? I have an estimated BW38.  Would love to go down to 32!

Who knows?  Fingers crossed for all of us mate!  Although reading around, it seems that week 32 is shut-down, so it may end up week 33, and then it could be a further 6 weeks after that before I get to drive it...  Oh well, at least something is in the diary!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 26 June 2013, 10:04
If everyone else is eating an update I can't believe I'm not getting one too! ???

What does an update taste like then?  ;) :-X


VICTORY!!! ;D

Yeah great news Jimble!!! And not before time... Seems to be a lot of activity these past few days.

Thats what i was thinking tbh, there does seem to be a lot of movement/confirmation all of a sudden!  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 26 June 2013, 10:05
Thats what i was thinking tbh, there does seem to be a lot of movement/confirmation all of a sudden!  :huh:

Not at my end there's not!  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 26 June 2013, 10:07
Is this change of fortunes GTI specific or do you think they may share the love with us GTD peons? I have an estimated BW38.  Would love to go down to 32!

Who knows?  Fingers crossed for all of us mate!  Although reading around, it seems that week 32 is shut-down, so it may end up week 33, and then it could be a further 6 weeks after that before I get to drive it...  Oh well, at least something is in the diary!

I know VW say it can take 6 weeks but i don't think it's the norm, don't be so pessimistic! :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 10:08
Thats what i was thinking tbh, there does seem to be a lot of movement/confirmation all of a sudden!  :huh:

Not at my end there's not!  :cry:

Nor mine!

I expected to find an email from my dealer this morning since I dropped them one last night saying a lot of people are getting updates where is mine?  Nothing.  Not even an email saying no change, let alone one saying my BW has come forward 5 weeks like I'm secretly hoping it has! :sad:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 10:17
I expected to find an email from my dealer this morning since I dropped them one last night saying a lot of people are getting updates where is mine?  Nothing.  Not even an email saying no change, let alone one saying my BW has come forward 5 weeks like I'm secretly hoping it has! :sad:

Call VW Exec Customer Service on 0844 375 4625 and see if they can help.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 10:32
I expected to find an email from my dealer this morning since I dropped them one last night saying a lot of people are getting updates where is mine?  Nothing.  Not even an email saying no change, let alone one saying my BW has come forward 5 weeks like I'm secretly hoping it has! :sad:

Call VW Exec Customer Service on 0844 375 4625 and see if they can help.

Thanks thats a good idea.  However, I had been talking to Lisa at VWUK and last week she basically said she can't tell me anything more than the dealer, who will know things first anyway so no point in doing anything but waiting for my dealer to update me.  I might give in and try it though!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 10:41
Can't hurt to try mate.  I've just found my contact there far more cooperative and helpful, and regularly called me and sent me texts.  From my dealer, nothing, and I surprised them by asking for details on delivery times now my build date has been confirmed...
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 26 June 2013, 11:40
Phoned that number and mine has moved a week forward to provisional 35, better than going backwards I suppose.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: peterdoherty on 26 June 2013, 11:52
Just spoke to VW on the above number. They were a bit curious as to how I got the number but more than happy to help.

I've an unconfirmed BW38 (retailer said it would be an Oct/early Nov delivery but wouldn't give a BW) so no change either way for me.

Ordered mid May (GTD).
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 26 June 2013, 12:03
Just emailed VW to find out why I have gone from unconfirmed week 22 TO 26 TO 35,first time I have chased it up but after 12 weeks of waiting i am still none the wiser and I am losing patience now. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 12:07
BW35 keeps coming up a lot.  Is it wishful thinking to hope I'm gonna come forward from 39/40 to 35 like Jimble has? :evil:  BW35 was roughly what I originally hoped for, just after the 63 plate.  And it would be a reasonable date, long wait but justified.  I don't see how BW40 can be considered reasonable in any way.

Come on VW, give me a heads up!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 June 2013, 12:29
At the early stages of ordering, did they consider the impact of the shutdown? It seems that the biggest losers in the revised timings are those that were always post-shutdown or becaume post shutdown after order amendments. Maybe pre-shutdown building is behind shedule, bumping us all back?

I guess we'll never know, but for Bill, an early confirmation of BW39/40 seems ridiculous unless he's order no 5 or 6 in a strictly adhered to allocation queue at his supplying dealership.

I haven't had the will to check the status of mine, but TBH i'm not really bothered, my Scirocco has really perked up in the warmer weather recently, it's like a different car right now. I will probably ask for a status update when I go to the dealership to see my dad's car.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: JohnP on 26 June 2013, 12:35
I've been notified today that mine has moved forward again to BW35 after slipping to BW37 a couple of weeks ago. Sounds like BW35 is going to be a busy week!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 12:36
You could be right, well, it fits with my situation anyway and I think for simonpolly too.

Simonpolly's move from 22 to 26 I think indicates delays with all builds.  22 was always optimistic but putting back to 26 is probably because everything got shoved back around the 22 point.  His further change to 35 is extreme, but could partially be due to shutdown.

Meanwhile I started out with a "July/August" delivery, but "might come forward".  This would fit with not taking shut down into account.  After shutdown was factored in I ended up at 36.  That is a push back of 6-8 weeks so shutdown plus early delays fits.  Moving to 39/40 later is unexplained.  If I moved back to 35 (still hoping) it would reverse that unexplained delay.

EDIT:
I've been notified today that mine has moved forward again to BW35 after slipping to BW37 a couple of weeks ago. Sounds like BW35 is going to be a busy week!!

Right, thats it.  I'm emailing my dealer again!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: simonpolly on 26 June 2013, 13:11
Personally I think we should have a forum jolly down to VW UK and kick some ass.i`ll arrange the bus ,Golf Gti Jolly Boys outing 2013   :grin:
http://youtu.be/2eaEBJ3Udkk
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 13:16
Personally I think we should have a forum jolly down to VW UK and kick some ass.i`ll arrange the bus ,Golf Gti Jolly Boys outing 2013   :grin:
http://youtu.be/2eaEBJ3Udkk

Haha! Very appropriate that they had "Help!" playing!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 June 2013, 13:24
Just had a phonecall from my dealer to tell me about my dad's car. It hasn't been put on a ship yet. Apparently VW can leave it sitting at dockside for up to 10 working days before they'd escalate it as an issue, although he's received some cars lately which have literally been on a ship within 36 hours of leaving Wolfsburg. Hopefully it'll be on the next one. He was able to tell me that my car hasn't moved from BW33 and mcmaddy's has come back to BW34 from being at BW34 then shifting to BW35. It does seem that some forward movement can happen, but not by much.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 26 June 2013, 13:27
It does seem that some forward movement can happen, but not by much.

Yeah, now that VW seem to have got their act together, I'm sure some forward and backward movement can be expected as they optimise their manufacturing logistics.  Really hoping my confirmed build doesn't slip back from week 32, but no guarantees!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: CraigW on 26 June 2013, 13:29
Just had a phonecall from my dealer to tell me about my dad's car. It hasn't been put on a ship yet. Apparently VW can leave it sitting at dockside for up to 10 working days before they'd escalate it as an issue, although he's received some cars lately which have literally been on a ship within 36 hours of leaving Wolfsburg. Hopefully it'll be on the next one. He was able to tell me that my car hasn't moved from BW33 and mcmaddy's has come back to BW34 from being at BW34 then shifting to BW35. It does seem that some forward movement can happen, but not by much.

So what kind of delivery date are you looking at now for your dad's car?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 26 June 2013, 13:48
So what kind of delivery date are you looking at now for your dad's car?

Depends on the ship it's on. Emden to Port of Tyne is around 24 hours judging by "city of Amsterdam" movements. Next ship from Emden to port of Tyne is "City of Rome", arriving at Emden tomorrow and expected at port of Tyne at midday on Friday. Could be Mon-Weds next week if it gets on that ship.

So, the next ship after "City of Rome" that is for Emden to port of Tyne? Unsure, I can only see scheduled arrivals/departures to 02 Jul and there are no more I can see in the schedule, so it'll be a wait if it's not on the next ship.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 26 June 2013, 16:34
Strange !!!

My GTD should be getting built this week.

However, the tracker, now does not recognise my order number.

I have been checking all day and showed my order as confirmed bw, and now all of a sudden, it no longer sees my order number.

Hmm
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: peterdoherty on 26 June 2013, 16:35
Strange !!!

My GTD should be getting built this week.

However, the tracker, now does not recognise my order number.

I have been checking all day and showed my order as confirmed bw, and now all of a sudden, it no longer sees my order number.

Hmm

Trackers not working for me either (BW38) - nothing to worry about as it seems to happen a lot - will recognise it again in a few hours
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: rick2b on 26 June 2013, 16:39
Strange !!!

My GTD should be getting built this week.

However, the tracker, now does not recognise my order number.

I have been checking all day and showed my order as confirmed bw, and now all of a sudden, it no longer sees my order number.

Hmm

Trackers not working for me either (BW38) - nothing to worry about as it seems to happen a lot - will recognise it again in a few hours

Cheers,

Was about to hang myself!!!! Again
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: joet on 26 June 2013, 16:46
This seems to happen just before an update. Happenned to me last night and lo and behold this morning it had changed from build week confirmed to in transit. So fingers crossed, you might have an update tomorrow.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 16:57
Dealer still hasn't returned my email.

I'm beginning to have a sinking feeling about everyone moving to BW35 except me (and matchboy).  I added 5yr warranty a couple of weeks back.  At the time it did occur to me that this is a change and so might affect my BW but this is what the dealer said:

Quote
"I wouldn’t think that amending this item will amend the build week as it isn’t an option that is physically going onto the vehicle."

I hope my trust in this statement was not misplaced!  Would be painful to see everyone moving forward about a month and a half only to find I've not moved, or worse have moved backward, simply because I added warranty! :cry:

Match, you didn't also add warranty recently did you?  Or any other change for that matter?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 26 June 2013, 17:01
Nope, I've not changed mine since order day. No need for extended warranty either as will change after 3 years. May add the service pack though as that seems good value, sure I did that last time and you can pay on a monthly DD too.

I reckon they know its our cars Bear and cause we've given them jip they're doing it on purpose  :cry:

Tracker is down - I expect it to update and work in an hour or two with the usual outcome - everyone else's order updates apart from mine  :sad:

Starts playing the world's smallest violin
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 26 June 2013, 17:11
I did that last time and you can pay on a monthly DD too.

WUT?  FFS they told me no monthly payments, can only do upfront!

- mumble grumble VW wossnames... -
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 26 June 2013, 17:14
This was last time Bear so in 2009 - it may have changed now??
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: ChrisJL on 26 June 2013, 17:46
Dont even have a predicted BW  :cry:
So suspect i might be like you gents and seemingly back of the queue or atlewst not moving forward in terms of build week or even getting an update. Not been waiting quite as long as long as you guys but still seemingly get no details from dealer on email or info offered to me without prompting them with a call irect to the salesman  :cry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 26 June 2013, 19:02
Tracker is back on chaps. Still processing woo hoo! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 26 June 2013, 19:49
All of a sudden mine is not recognised on the tracker  :huh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 26 June 2013, 20:01
All of a sudden mine is not recognised on the tracker  :huh:

Yeah mine is the same. That happens every so often.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 26 June 2013, 20:35
you can pay your service pack by monthly direct debit.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 26 June 2013, 20:50
All of a sudden mine is not recognised on the tracker  :huh:

Yeah mine is the same. That happens every so often.

Yup, mine too! :cry: maybe it's like the Matrix and somethings changing! :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: physio on 26 June 2013, 20:57
its not recognising my tracker number  either   :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: iainmac on 26 June 2013, 23:46
Or mine!  :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: AAddict on 26 June 2013, 23:52
Or mine!  :angry:

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Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 00:09
 :grin: :grin: I didn't know you had a camera in my house!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 June 2013, 10:16
you can pay your service pack by monthly direct debit.

Really?  Are you doing this?

My dealer specifically said no when I asked, but I don't really trust them.  If I know someone else has been told they can pay be direct debit then I'll have another go at them.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 June 2013, 10:54
Im not as my current car is on VW finance but its splashed all over the VW dealers showroom and website up here. Ask in the service department not from sales. every other manufacturer does it monthly.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 27 June 2013, 10:57
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 June 2013, 11:02
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers

Cat:
There is no average.  It changes to BW confirmed approximately 4 weeks before your car is built.  Because of the long delays after placing an order this could be many weeks before it changes.  e.g. if you have to wait 20 weeks, that is 16 of sitting at processing.  Hopefully it won't be that bad for you though!

Week numbers are standard calendar weeks.

I could get a screen cap but I don't think it is needed.  All that happens is the next graphic starts to be animated.  No more info is divulged, certainly it doesn't give any dates, so unless you check it every day you won't even know when it started to go BW confirmed and therefore when to expect it to be built.  However, your dealer would know so you could ask them.

Ignore Titan black, its same for all GTI/GTDs.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Jimble on 27 June 2013, 11:12
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers

I think your being a bit optomistic hoping for a confirmed BW after 2 weeks unless it's a cancelled order that your dealer has picked up?

Week numbers can be found here if needed:

http://www.epochconverter.com/date-and-time/weeknumbers-by-year.php


Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: pauliem on 27 June 2013, 11:35
Just had an update from my dealer, no update and still the delayed build week.

But he did say that a lot of cars are coming through faster than expected (But didn't say that included GTI's - just "Cars").

I've managed to go a good week without looking at the "Processing your order" page.  I've begun to be able to put it to the back of my mind and forget that I am getting a new car.

In the mean time, this just popped up:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=27979
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Valenni on 27 June 2013, 12:01
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers

My 'processing' has been on-going since the 15th of May, so 6 weeks and no change. Best to check it once a week, that way you won't get too down hearted.

I expect 'processing' to change around the end of July though. That would make it 10 or 11 weeks since order?
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 12:21
Im not as my current car is on VW finance but its splashed all over the VW dealers showroom and website up here. Ask in the service department not from sales. every other manufacturer does it monthly.

I was on VW Finance and I still could pay for the service on DD - you need to push them on this Bear!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 June 2013, 12:39
You can have your service pack on your financed total for the , just as if it was an option like metallic paint etc. You'll be paying interest on it as per the car, or take the cost of it out of your deposit/equity (from the p/x) and pay for it outright. Driving a GTD instead of a GTI I can just add up a few months fuel savings to buy it outright!  :whistle:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 12:49
You can have your service pack on your financed total for the , just as if it was an option like metallic paint etc. You'll be paying interest on it as per the car, or take the cost of it out of your deposit/equity (from the p/x) and pay for it outright. Driving a GTD instead of a GTI I can just add up a few months fuel savings to buy it outright!  :whistle:

 :grin: That made me laugh!

This is a few years ago, but I paid for my service part separately - there may have been some interest (can't remember) but it would have been minimal.  So I had two DD's, one for the car and one for the service.  I don't know if they still do this though.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Bill_the_Bear on 27 June 2013, 13:00
Ok, well I'm not financing through VW, I'm paying outright.  They implied if it was a finance deal then things would be different.  What I asked was could the service pack and/or extended warranty be paid for monthly (like with my current car).  They responded to say no "optional extras" could be paid for monthly.

This is typical of their responses and yet again leaves me with little confidence they have understood the question or given an accurate answer.  Thinking about it I'm not sure any answer they've given my thus far has been accurate on the first attempt.  Its usually two or three "clarifying" questions from me later before they trig what I'm asking.  Examples are when they thought my request for an "update on the estimated BW" was me questioning if they had actually ordered it, when I asked what SD cards were compatible with the Pro Nav and was told nav maps come preloaded... :huh: or when I asked for details on the extended warranty and they just restated the price.

I'm gonna have to go back to them on this one as well I see!  VW Listers are not scoring very well so far.  Service is hugely less impressive than I had from Ford on my last car. :angry:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 13:15
I'd go back to them Bear.  It's not an optional extra, its a service pack.  There is literally no reason why it can't be paid for on DD - that's why people do DD's in order to spread the cost instead of outlaying all in one hit - I'm guessing they just haven't understand you as they sound like numptys.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 27 June 2013, 13:17
Bill: I suppose if you're not financing the car it may be more difficult to finance the service pack - they just won't think it's worth their while to give you a £369 loan. It's good to be able to avoid the VW finance if you've got the readies or get a loan elsewhere at a cheaper APR (not an option for me, nowhere is cheaper than VW's APR right now for the £20k finance i'll be wanting - all the cheap loans seem to top out at £15k). The servicing drops from £369 to £249 with finance.

Either way, a change in policy will be down to VWUK/VW finance and not the dealership, but the dealerships do seem to know less about the products we're selling than we do. Nearly every dealer I have spoken to in the past doesn't know how the loan works e.g. high GFV and low repayments means paying more interest over a longer period, so VW make more interest.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: mcmaddy on 27 June 2013, 13:34
Bill: I suppose if you're not financing the car it may be more difficult to finance the service pack - they just won't think it's worth their while to give you a £369 loan. It's good to be able to avoid the VW finance if you've got the readies or get a loan elsewhere at a cheaper APR (not an option for me, nowhere is cheaper than VW's APR right now for the £20k finance i'll be wanting - all the cheap loans seem to top out at £15k). The servicing drops from £369 to £249 with finance.

Either way, a change in policy will be down to VWUK/VW finance and not the dealership, but the dealerships do seem to know less about the products we're selling than we do. Nearly every dealer I have spoken to in the past doesn't know how the loan works e.g. high GFV and low repayments means paying more interest over a longer period, so VW make more interest.
The service pack isnt a loan. Its a monthly direct debit paid up front that covers you for servicing. Its stand alone from finance so they obviously dont know what they are talking about. Speak to the service department they will know.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 27 June 2013, 13:35
Speak to the service department they will know.

This.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 27 June 2013, 13:42

I'm getting mine on 3 yr PCP, and they chucked in SMT for free as part of the deal, also added PP for free too. Feel I got quite a good deal!! Now if I could just get my car as my roco is going to need 4 new tyres soon!!
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: allycat45 on 27 June 2013, 14:12
I was a little worried that the tracker stopped recognising my order number yesterday, but after reading some of the comments on here that the system might be refreshing I relaxed a little and so was hoping to see a "Build Week Confirmed" status today. It is recognised again today but, of course, I am still getting my paperwork stamped on "Processing Your Order".  :cry: :cry:

Can any of you guys tell me how long it takes on average (if there is an average), for an order to change from "Processing Your Order" to "Build Week Confirmed" ? I put in my replacement order two weeks ago and was hoping to have a confirmed week number by now. I will be asking the Dealer, but you know I will get more sense here ! Also can someone confirm if the week numbers are the standard calendar week numbers and not something weird i.e. Week 1 is first week of January ?

Can anyone post a screenshot of what you see when it does move to "Build Week Confirmed" (with your order number blurred out is necessary) ? At the moment all I see is the Car, Colour and Upholstery details. Was worried that it might come with Titan Black but Dealer assures me it will be Jacaro Red (got it in writing just in case)

cheers

My 'processing' has been on-going since the 15th of May, so 6 weeks and no change. Best to check it once a week, that way you won't get too down hearted.

I expect 'processing' to change around the end of July though. That would make it 10 or 11 weeks since order?

Thanks for the info guys. I'll see if I can break the OCD habit of firing up the web browser every half hour to check then !  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gryzor on 27 June 2013, 14:29
Thanks for the info guys. I'll see if I can break the OCD habit of firing up the web browser every half hour to check then !  :laugh:

Do what I did and leave it two or three weeks!  Mine went from "Processing" to "Build Week Confirmed" in the space of two causal site visits!  :grin:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: phil_790 on 28 June 2013, 08:01
Hi all,

I got a call from my dealer yesterday to say that I have a confirmed build week of 33. I had given up checking the track my order, now it's showing as confirmed...starting to get really excited, but also think i might miss my scirocco a bit.

Cheers,
Phil
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Cats on 28 June 2013, 08:14
Hi all,

I got a call from my dealer yesterday to say that I have a confirmed build week of 33. I had given up checking the track my order, now it's showing as confirmed...starting to get really excited, but also think i might miss my scirocco a bit.

Cheers,
Phil
That's 6 weeks in advance not the normal 4, maybe due to the shutdown period.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: phil_790 on 28 June 2013, 08:22
I thought it was a bit soon to be confirmed, but I was so surprised that I forgot to ask why it was confirmed so early...not that I am complaining!
Cheers,
Phil
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 June 2013, 08:59
Well f7ck my old boots and call me Shirley, the tracker now says 'Build Week Confirmed.'

I am in a state of shock!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: monkeyhanger on 28 June 2013, 09:02
Well f7ck my old boots and call me Shirley, the tracker now says 'Build Week Confirmed.'

I am in a state of shock!  :laugh:

Me too!

BW33 I assume matchboy? It does seem that Thursday is the day of major weekly updates - my dad's was confirmed on a Thursday.

It would seem then the the tracker is updating 4 build weeks earlier than build rather than 4 calendar weeks, taking the 3 week shutdown into account.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: matchboy on 28 June 2013, 09:05
Well f7ck my old boots and call me Shirley, the tracker now says 'Build Week Confirmed.'

I am in a state of shock!  :laugh:

Me too!

BW33 I assume matchboy? It does seem that Thursday is the day of major weekly updates - my dad's was confirmed on a Thursday.

It would seem then the the tracker is updating 4 build weeks earlier than build rather than 4 calendar weeks, taking the 3 week shutdown into account.

Yup, I agree!  BW33 too - so they are taking into account the shutdown.  I know its still ages away but seeing the tracker update has made my week!  :laugh:
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: GolfTi on 28 June 2013, 09:08
Great news Shirley/ Monkey.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: Gung-Ho on 28 June 2013, 09:10
Well f7ck my old boots and call me Shirley, the tracker now says 'Build Week Confirmed.'

I am in a state of shock!  :laugh:

Great news "Shirley"....... You can breath a sigh of relief now.
Title: Re: GTI Build Dates - Anyone got one yet?
Post by: NickNotts on 28 June 2013, 09:14