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Title: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 08 June 2013, 18:37
Hi hope im not stepping on anyone's toes here. I just wanted to see if we can share a few thoughts on 1.8T induction, and have it all in one place.

I have an AGU golf, remapped by Chris at Midland VW and it made 181hp and 217lbft. Toatally standard, supermarket fuel.

I have now switched to Vpower at all times, renewed all hosing under the bonnet with silicone, Forge TIP, new 710N DV, charcoal delete and the block/head vents to atmos. she peaks at 16psi, and has had a full service inc plugs and belts, sump drop and three oil refills since. sitting happy at 103k.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w180/paultownsend/photo21.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/paultownsend/media/photo21.jpg.html)

Now, at first i did this to the airbox after the pictured wine. I also put in a pipercross foam filter

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w180/paultownsend/photo43_zps7e1391cd.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/paultownsend/media/photo43_zps7e1391cd.jpg.html)

now, i feel that while the OE snorkel and inake is a reasonable idea to source could air, the route it takes is far too long. and restrictive.
At this point i considered the DSG setup, but its still a long tract to take.

I felt the above was acceptable as it was as good as an open cone, yet has a direct cold feed from the OE snorkel. The pick up was a lot beter, seemed to pull better at high revs also. sound wise the dump was loud, but the growl at low revs sounded a little odd.
It still however sucked up warm air, even though the engine side was shielded. 

i then bought this

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w180/paultownsend/photo44_zps473a9e9e.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/paultownsend/media/photo44_zps473a9e9e.jpg.html)

The £14 Honda S2000 cone and £14 silicone coupler.
Now, on a certain Audi forum this is all the rage. S3's and A3's. Personally it was a little too much and a little too little for my AGU.
It sounded like a jet taking off every time the throttle was half open. It was LOL loud. Too much for a daily driver. It also sucked in all the hot air around it. And, it made the car feel flat. im not sure if that was because it flattened out the power curve, but it felt like some torque had been lost. It was removed for the butchered air box.

I then fitted a Forge TIP. WOW. the car pulls and pulls in the top revs. it was absolutely being chocked before.
This made me want to find a compromise, which led me to this

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w180/paultownsend/photo3_zps3d5da4cb.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/paultownsend/media/photo3_zps3d5da4cb.jpg.html)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w180/paultownsend/photo4_zps39317064.jpg) (http://s176.photobucket.com/user/paultownsend/media/photo4_zps39317064.jpg.html)

And its great! it sucks in all the air it needs, while still being fed cold stuff at speed from the OE snorkel. It sounds good too, and i hope isnt sucking in much hot air.

now, the OE setup just after the map, using the OE snorkal pulled 144 mg/s on the MAF. Dividing using the 0.8 method leaves me with 180hp. What the RR said!

The final set up now leaves me with 152mg/s = 190hp. Happy days.

Not scientific, but it certainly drives better, sounds better, and is cheap!







Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Scott D on 08 June 2013, 19:32
I've lost count over the amount of induction kit's had in the past and spent a small fortune on them all to end up with a £20 S2000 filter and ebay heat shield  :grin:

Vaguely remember doing logging with a Jetex cone against standard airbox a couple of years ago which resulted in slightly less g/s after WOT runs with the airbox.

Worst filter had was a Pipercross enclosed think it was called a Venom - lost around 15bhp IIRC

Forge TIP and good fuel will be helping and if the airbox is working for you then happy days  :smiley:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 08 June 2013, 20:24
I sold myself short. It was 153.5 g/s  :grin: but inlet temps were sky high 30'c.


Wish I had tested the s2k filter properly now.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 08 June 2013, 22:35
What intercooler do you have mate?
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 09 June 2013, 00:00
OE SMIC at the momento
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 09 June 2013, 09:49
Hmm, wondering what affect this would have to mine with an FMIC...
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: steverubberduck on 09 June 2013, 10:33
Mines stage 2'd, but my air intake is the standard box, with a pipercross panel filter, but with a direct cold intake from behind the lower grill directly to the box intake
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 09 June 2013, 11:23
steve, that was the other route i was going to take. but its a long route for the air to flow.

wazzer, what set up are you using at the moment?

and gents, pictures are needed!
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 09 June 2013, 12:34
I have the DSG parts with a green cotton panel filter. TBH I'm not looking for performance gains, I'd just like a little bit more induction noise, but without compromising the inlet temps. I've got the advantage of WMI as well though
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 09 June 2013, 13:01
I'd get a spare air box and try it out!

With WMI I can't see inlet temps being an issue :)

It's more the colder, dense air we all need.

My car is at its fastest on damp cold mornings.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: adam- on 09 June 2013, 15:38
I noticed this!

Drove home after work today and it's just so flat.  Once it's night time it's okay, air temp seems to make such a difference!
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Chris#101 on 09 June 2013, 17:12
You need wmi in your life, the best thing I ever done. The difference is nihgt and day   :drool:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 09 June 2013, 17:57
I'm not sure if its flat, or the power has been smoothed out.
With the OE airbox mine feels nice and torquey low down but that was just lost with the s2k cone.

I'm not sure what a velocity stack is and what it does. All I know is the s2k filter has one.

Looking at the pipercross panel filter, 50% of the surface area is covered up by the mesh. This can't be good?
I may get a OE paper filter, and I may be supprised at the findings!
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: adam- on 09 June 2013, 18:06
I don't even see what the issue is.  I had just trumpets on the carbs for over 15k and it was reeeeet! :p
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: navmk4gti on 09 June 2013, 22:22
I will be putting on a pipercross foam cone filter heat shield and cold air feed from yhe lower grill.. hope dont get no loss of power after reading this :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 09 June 2013, 23:07
I'm not sure if heat had the same negative effects on a n/a engine?

I had a pipercross foam cone on my old mk2 golf 16v ABF and it it was never an issue. It screamed at 7k!
Had a cold feed direct from the removed fog light mind. And under bonnet temps were nowhere near as high as a 1.8t
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 10 June 2013, 13:13
I've seen and used a fair few different setups on my golf too:-

1 - standard airbox and paper filter (rubbish)
2 - Ebay CAI kit, gave better power but the filter was too close to the floor (most powerful by far, massively feel the difference but didn't fancy waterlock  :shocked:)
3 - Ebay Carbon enclosed filter with cold air feed to bumper (too restrictive)
4 - Filter on the MAF and an ebay type heat shield, with a cold air feed (not bad at all)
5 - BMC CDA - too restrictive
6 - back to standard box but with pipercross filter and DSG parts (too restrictive)
7 - S2000 filter is in the boot and just ordered the silicone coupler - results coming toward the end of the week  :grin:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: navmk4gti on 10 June 2013, 13:22
I've seen and used a fair few different setups on my golf too:-

1 - standard airbox and paper filter (rubbish)
2 - Ebay CAI kit, gave better power but the filter was too close to the floor (most powerful by far, massively feel the difference but didn't fancy waterlock  :shocked:)
3 - Ebay Carbon enclosed filter with cold air feed to bumper (too restrictive)
4 - Filter on the MAF and an ebay type heat shield, with a cold air feed (not bad at all)
5 - back to standard box but with pipercross filter and DSG parts (too restrictive)
6 - S2000 filter is in the boot and just ordered the silicone coupler - results coming toward the end of the week  :grin:

Ill be just skipping to number 4 :grin:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: jamie16v on 10 June 2013, 14:28
I've seen and used a fair few different setups on my golf too:-

1 - standard airbox and paper filter (rubbish)
2 - Ebay CAI kit, gave better power but the filter was too close to the floor (most powerful by far, massively feel the difference but didn't fancy waterlock  :shocked:)
3 - Ebay Carbon enclosed filter with cold air feed to bumper (too restrictive)
4 - Filter on the MAF and an ebay type heat shield, with a cold air feed (not bad at all)
5 - back to standard box but with pipercross filter and DSG parts (too restrictive)
6 - S2000 filter is in the boot and just ordered the silicone coupler - results coming toward the end of the week  :grin:

Ill be just skipping to number 4 :grin:
option No.2 sounds fine to me, don`t see many puddles deep enough around here  :grin:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: navmk4gti on 10 June 2013, 14:44
Iv been through and seen fair share puddles mate that will defo soak up through a filter which is behind the front bumper  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: dom on 10 June 2013, 19:52
I currently have a Pipercross filter in the standard airbox which is half smoothed, I've got an S2000 filter and heatshield in the shed waiting to go on when my silicone coupler arrives. I'll then run a cold air feed from behind the bumper :cool:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 10 June 2013, 20:04
What heatshield have you S2000 filter boys gone for?
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: navmk4gti on 10 June 2013, 20:05
Are you guys who are going to have a cold feed runing to the lower grill are you going to have it coming out the grill with a trumpet on it or just behind the grill.. im in two minds .. dont want it chavy :grin:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 10 June 2013, 20:29
I assume this one...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/S3-A3-Air-intake-heat-shield-open-cone-shield-cupra-r-/130926075010?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e7bcd5c82
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: navmk4gti on 10 June 2013, 20:35
Thats the one waz
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: dom on 10 June 2013, 20:40
I assume this one...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/S3-A3-Air-intake-heat-shield-open-cone-shield-cupra-r-/130926075010?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e7bcd5c82

Yup :afro:

Are you guys who are going to have a cold feed runing to the lower grill are you going to have it coming out the grill with a trumpet on it or just behind the grill.. im in two minds .. dont want it chavy :grin:

I'm just going to drill some holes in the lower bumper vent and have it tucked behind, I don't want it on show :wink:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 10 June 2013, 20:41
Hmmm might change at some point but leave the DSG parts as a feed to it...
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: navmk4gti on 10 June 2013, 20:53
Dom is your lower vent not the open type that your drilling holes? Yup think i will keep mine hidden too keep the car oem looking :cool:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: dom on 10 June 2013, 21:20
Dom is your lower vent not the open type that your drilling holes? Yup think i will keep mine hidden too keep the car oem looking :cool:

Nope:

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/DSC_0185_zpsd0760878.jpg) (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/codling1234/media/DSC_0185_zpsd0760878.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 10 June 2013, 21:45
DSG intake and snorkel going in to the ebay heat shield I reckon would be the best if insisting on a cone.

Where the intake is between the grille and bonnet, is meant to be a high air pressure point, giving a good ram effect. It so iv read!

The best heat shield by far is the R-tech one. It looks like it properly seals against the bonnet. It is $$$ however.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: adam- on 10 June 2013, 22:01
Does the ram effect actually work? 

I'm sure you have to be doing 180+ to even get a hint of "pressurisation".  And that's why we have a turbo anyway..
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: pickles on 10 June 2013, 22:19
I assume this one...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/S3-A3-Air-intake-heat-shield-open-cone-shield-cupra-r-/130926075010?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e7bcd5c82

Yup :afro:

Are you guys who are going to have a cold feed runing to the lower grill are you going to have it coming out the grill with a trumpet on it or just behind the grill.. im in two minds .. dont want it chavy :grin:

I'm just going to drill some holes in the lower bumper vent and have it tucked behind, I don't want it on show :wink:

what about these vents (http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff366/pickles1690/bumpergrilleairintakes_zpse9ea6b3a.jpg)
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 10 June 2013, 22:37
Does the ram effect actually work? 

I'm sure you have to be doing 180+ to even get a hint of "pressurisation".  And that's why we have a turbo anyway..

Surely it's the same effect as air over a radiator? Or intercooler?
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: navmk4gti on 11 June 2013, 00:17
My vent is open and so it as on my agu  :undecided:

Pickles i use to have them vents on my previous mk4 didnt like the look of them after a bit.  They would do the job for a cold air feed pipe tho hmmm
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: adam- on 11 June 2013, 08:36
Does the ram effect actually work? 

I'm sure you have to be doing 180+ to even get a hint of "pressurisation".  And that's why we have a turbo anyway..

Surely it's the same effect as air over a radiator? Or intercooler?

Yeah, it cools the air, but doesn't force it in..
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 11 June 2013, 14:34
what would be the reasonong for having a cold air feed as so many do and as discussed above from the lower valance?

it can only be proved by sticking a thermometer in the airbox and taking live logs. Pointless taking IAT's through VCDS for this as its already been through the blower.

its more fresh air that needed than cold air. Oxygen rich air for more of a bang!
I think its because the inlet is between the grille and bonnet and it almost forces air in.

Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 11 June 2013, 14:57
im no expert here, but it cant do any more harm than having nothing bringing in clean air to the engine bay.

Gents with the S200 filters, get your pictures and results posted!
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: jamie16v on 11 June 2013, 15:12

it can only be proved by sticking a thermometer in the airbox and taking live logs. Pointless taking IAT's through VCDS for this as its already been through the blower.

its more fresh air that needed than cold air. Oxygen rich air for more of a bang!

colder air in through the air filter ends up being colder at the inlet regardless of the turbo. yes the turbo does heat the air up due to compression, but if you put colder air into it, its not going to be as hot coming out of it.
its not more fresh air than clean either, its both. cold air holds more oxygen, clean air is better for the engine in the long run.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 11 June 2013, 19:23
Today I learn something new!
As soon as granta posts up his FMIC in full most of this should become irrelevant  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: davemk4 on 12 June 2013, 19:46
fitted my s2000 filter today

(http://i867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/primeradave/s2000filter_zps3b0c45d8.jpg) (http://s867.photobucket.com/user/primeradave/media/s2000filter_zps3b0c45d8.jpg.html)

it needed some ''adjustments'' here and there as it bloody huge and all i can say is it not induction noise i was expecting i was expecting more low tone noise...but noooooooooooo huge spool and just general air suction noise no wonder kids run away where driving this bad boy.

oh and yes ill be getting the correct blue proper reducer ready for weekend it in post now i just needed to get it on the car  :laugh:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: navmk4gti on 12 June 2013, 19:52
I see you took out the intake pipes too dave. An plans on cold air feed or anything :smiley:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 12 June 2013, 20:15
A quick convo via text to Nick today gave the info I need; the standard airbox gets restrictive around 230bhp so mine will be changing soon
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: GunnerCP on 12 June 2013, 21:07
What size reducer do you need for the s2k filter? From _ - _?

Thanks
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 12 June 2013, 21:22
86-80

Go to JS Performance. Top service.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: GunnerCP on 12 June 2013, 21:36
86-80

Go to JS Performance. Top service.
Thanks, Can't see that size on their site?
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 12 June 2013, 21:42
I just phoned up matey
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: davemk4 on 13 June 2013, 06:29
What size reducer do you need for the s2k filter? From _ - _?

Thanks

Depend on maf size :wink:  mine 70 so ordered  83mm - 70mm.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: davemk4 on 13 June 2013, 06:31
I see you took out the intake pipes too dave. An plans on cold air feed or anything :smiley:

Yer ill be foing something but unsure on what yet..... going to get the filter secured properltly with proper joiner then see what to go for
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 13 June 2013, 07:49
What size reducer do you need for the s2k filter? From _ - _?

Thanks

Depend on maf size :wink:  mine 70 so ordered  83mm - 70mm.

I'm an idiot! Defo 70-86!
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 13 June 2013, 12:46
I was told 70-86 would be the ideal fit - mine will be here today  :tongue:

Want the weather to improve so I can give it a blast later after fitting  :evil:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: davemk4 on 13 June 2013, 16:02
I had to cut the bracket off where oem air feed is and bend bracket out where heatshield would fit too. I cannot see how witha aftermarket TIP this will fit 100% mine on but it knocks on body work straighten it up then the bloody tip rubs on a pipe...
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: rio_gti on 13 June 2013, 16:48
A quick convo via text to Nick today gave the info I need; the standard airbox gets restrictive around 230bhp so mine will be changing soon

so what is being said here is that any more that 230bhp and this is the filter to use? the standard air box has to be made redundant?
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 June 2013, 07:00
No mention of what filter to use, just that the standard airbox is restrictive at around 230bhp...
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 14 June 2013, 08:16
Well fitted mine last night and went for a blast - initial thoughts were not bad but not great, didn't feel any improvement over my cone filter on the MAF and heat shield, as for it being stupidly loud again this doesn't seem loud at all gives a little induction roar but nothing my cone didn't give bit disappointed to be honest lol my filter was from ECP so whether that's any different or not don't know
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: davemk4 on 14 June 2013, 09:26
Like said above it not miles louder than my k&n it just gives more turbo sound BUT the k&n 57i kit was very small
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 June 2013, 09:54
Well fitted mine last night and went for a blast - initial thoughts were not bad but not great, didn't feel any improvement over my cone filter on the MAF and heat shield, as for it being stupidly loud again this doesn't seem loud at all gives a little induction roar but nothing my cone didn't give bit disappointed to be honest lol my filter was from ECP so whether that's any different or not don't know

Sounds stupid but what colour was yours mate? I want one that's black plastic rather than green
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 14 June 2013, 11:10
is yours definitely not oiled?

i was going from an airbox, so for me it was LOUD! not indiction roar, infact none, just sucking and whistling from the turbo then mega loud dumps, and i use an OE 710N!

The main benefit of these filters is that they are cheap, and being paper they filter better than foam or that cotton stuff  k&n use.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 14 June 2013, 11:13
Well fitted mine last night and went for a blast - initial thoughts were not bad but not great, didn't feel any improvement over my cone filter on the MAF and heat shield, as for it being stupidly loud again this doesn't seem loud at all gives a little induction roar but nothing my cone didn't give bit disappointed to be honest lol my filter was from ECP so whether that's any different or not don't know

Sounds stupid but what colour was yours mate? I want one that's black plastic rather than green

Black and Orange/Red  :wink:

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r539/DaloHarkin/S2000Filter2_zps42fc0a7b.jpg
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 14 June 2013, 11:22
is yours definitely not oiled?

i was going from an airbox, so for me it was LOUD! not indiction roar, infact none, just sucking and whistling from the turbo then mega loud dumps, and i use an OE 710N!

The main benefit of these filters is that they are cheap, and being paper they filter better than foam or that cotton stuff  k&n use.

They are slightly oiled, it comes in a plastic bag and you can see the smearing of the oil on the bag and also on the plastic, yeah going from a silent airbox to this will sound louder :)
As for filtering better, you'd have some convincing to do there, by the time you add the silicone adapter and the filter you're into the cost of a heat shield and cone setup which I would say for those looking to go down this route go for instead, you ideally need the heat shield with this setup too so you're looking at a kit cost of:-
£20 for silicone pipe
£20 for heatshield
£13.50 for filter (needs replacing at each service)

as opposed to:-
£20 heatshield
£15 for cone that fits onto MAF off ebay (non oiled one) can be washed and re used

This may be up for sale soon lmao
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 14 June 2013, 11:58
Dibs then lol
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: davemk4 on 14 June 2013, 14:30
Mine green paper with no oil defo. And cream plastic edges.

Heatshield would require so serious modding to fit as ive had to bend flat the strut fixing mount for where the heat shield would go as other wise it would rub on the s2000 filter.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 14 June 2013, 14:35
You can get around the heatshield - check on the previous page for a pic of mine fitted
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Scott D on 15 June 2013, 00:00
doesn't need much work bend the shield and make a bracket for securing to the bolt near battery tray
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 15 June 2013, 00:10
They should not be oiled. But for some reason some manufacturers choose to do so.
Mine was from ECP, green and beige and not oiled.

Paper, so iv read has the best filtering ability.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: dom on 15 June 2013, 17:49
Just fitted mine, I got it from Baxxy but it's from ECP as well. It's slightly oiled (I have the stain on my leg to prove it!). I used a 80-70mm hose from Auto Silicone Hoses which was a really tight fit around the filter and needed a bit of trimming at the MAF end.

The red ties in with the rest of my engine bay nicely :grin:

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/DSC_0188_zps25d1207f.jpg) (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/codling1234/media/DSC_0188_zps25d1207f.jpg.html)

Room is fairly tight though:

(http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy183/codling1234/DSC_0191_zps5d9284b8.jpg) (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/codling1234/media/DSC_0191_zps5d9284b8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: jamie16v on 15 June 2013, 17:50
i`m going for a puddle sucker, f**k it!..
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: navmk4gti on 15 June 2013, 17:55
You done a good job there dom. Was going to get my pipercross kit and heat shield on but the rain has fooked up that plan :angry:

Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: dom on 15 June 2013, 18:00
i`m going for a puddle sucker, f**k it!..

Go for it, it was a b!tch to get it all fitted due to lack of space and the filter being enormous :grin:

You done a good job there dom. Was going to get my pipercross kit and heat shield on but the rain has fooked up that plan :angry:



Luckily it's been ok here this afternoon, hopefully it will be the same tomorrow so I can rip out the SAI pump and crap that goes along with it.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 15 June 2013, 20:23
I had to trim back my TIP slightly for the standard airbox so mine should have a bit more room. I'll have to make up some brackets to move the heatshield slightly and I'm gonna trim a hole in it for my ignition amp
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: davemk4 on 15 June 2013, 21:47
Dom mine sits right upto the strut point.....this why im saying heatshield no go... only fifferemce i see is TIP brand difference. Ive had to cut some of loom cover trim that goes to bulk head too
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: beppe2672 on 16 June 2013, 22:50
Anyone here tried one of the blox velocity stack intakes, they look pretty huge, ideally i'd like to use it with a heatshield? Also been looking at one of the ram-air enclosed cone filters.
blox
http://www.bloxracing.com/bloxshop/index.php?route=product/product&path=20_47&product_id=234
ramair
http://ramair-filters.co.uk/carbonmax-induction-kits-vw/volkswagen-mk4-golf-18i-20v-turbo-carbon-max-induction-kit.html
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 17 June 2013, 08:00
BLOX looks a very good piece of kit.
Wouldn't bother with the ram air. Looks restrictive. Could make the same out of your old airbox with a 3" feed from the bumper.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 17 June 2013, 10:08
I'll be wrapping my heatshield in real carbon anyway :wink:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: dom on 17 June 2013, 12:56
I'll be wrapping my heatshield in real carbon anyway :wink:

Where did you get your money tree from? :grin:

Coming to work this morning was the first time I've properly driven the car with S2000 filter on. Not sure why people are complaining about the induction noise, I'm getting very little. The d/v noise is slightly louder but not anything excessive, overall I'm very impressed with it :cool:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Dalo Harkin on 17 June 2013, 13:02
I was expecting it to be like an aircraft taking off lmao (from what I heard anyway  :rolleyes:)

From what I found there was no benefit of this over a heatshield and cone on the MAF, and as this is classed as a serviceable part and needs changing every 8-12k or whatever they are the cone wins  :grin:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: paultownsend on 17 June 2013, 13:16
I got mine from here. ridiculous price

Its green and cream, but NOT OILED

http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/air-filter

The reducer i had for my 70mm MAF was 70-86mm from JS Performance. £15 inc postage

Hope this helps
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: vala on 17 June 2013, 13:31
A quick convo via text to Nick today gave the info I need; the standard airbox gets restrictive around 230bhp so mine will be changing soon

To keep the OE look could you not just upgrade to the R32 airbox and snorkel etc? Maybe smooth this out on the inside as well.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 17 June 2013, 20:44
I currently run the DSG bits and a smoothed box. I'll be keeping the snorkel etc with the S2000 filter
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: dom on 17 June 2013, 21:49
I currently run the DSG bits and a smoothed box. I'll be keeping the snorkel etc with the S2000 filter

You might struggle for space, I had to remove my standard snorkel to get the filter in  :grin:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 18 June 2013, 09:29
Ah but don't forget my TIP has been trimmed back....
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 18 June 2013, 09:30
I'll make it fit lol
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: dom on 18 June 2013, 11:03
How wide is the DSG snorkle? My TIP is unmodified, I had to trim about 2" off the silicone coupler and the filter is almost touching the inner wing.

I'm sure its do-able, I'm just going to run a short length of neoprene hose to mine I think.
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: Wazzzer on 18 June 2013, 17:58
I reckon it will be a suck it and see experiment lol
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: rio_gti on 18 June 2013, 18:14
Ah but don't forget my TIP has been trimmed back....

Are you Jewish??  :grin:
Title: Re: The 1.8T Air box/Induction thread
Post by: chrismac89 on 20 July 2013, 10:58
Hi guys am looking to fit the s2000 filter to my AUM does anyone have a link to the parts I would need?
Thanks