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Model specific boards => Golf mk8 => Topic started by: Tristan100 on 17 July 2020, 09:39
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When is the order books going to open
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"Autumn" (maybe.... in Germany)
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Somebody mentioned September. Didn't specify a year though :undecided:
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Just been looking at the Media Information provided at the Virtual Presentation in May 2020 for Golf GTI.
On Page 9 it states: "Pre-Sales of the new Golf GTI will start this summer"
Ok, so it doesn't state any country (but they will start with Germany). So my definition of summer is June, July August. But UK always behind by approx 3 months. So UK ordering probably be Sept/Oct.
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And based on lead times for the mk7, probably 6-8 months after the first mk8 GTI customer orders before their cars arrive in the UK.
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Yes, I'd agree it won't be available for the dealers to order in the UK until September/October at the earliest and then about 6 months for delivery.
Don't forget the fun you will also have on day 1 whereby VW UK won't have actually got the configurator right and you will be ordering something without knowing what they decided to include or not include as base spec. Maybe even you might end up minus foglights (again). Just as the first ones are received, they will change the base spec too - probably including something you paid for as an option.
Welcome to VW UK....
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Hi Im a lapsed GTI owner from many years ago. (strayed in Cayman 981 & 718 ownership)
Is it me but Im getting frustrated at no info re the hot Golfs. It was february when the launch
of the GTI was shown. Admittedly covid 19 has had an effect on being able to order but no news is now pushing
me towards the M135i !
I would be looking at the TCR - should I wait??
thanks
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Hi Im a lapsed GTI owner from many years ago. (strayed in Cayman 981 & 718 ownership)
Is it me but Im getting frustrated at no info re the hot Golfs. It was february when the launch
of the GTI was shown. Admittedly covid 19 has had an effect on being able to order but no news is now pushing
me towards the M135i !
I would be looking at the TCR - should I wait??
thanks
Hi, welcome to the forum.
If you're itching to get something ordered then the Beemer could be a tempting option. Obviously COVID hasn't helped the situation, but I think VW's usual new GTi inefficiency has been further exacerbated by them prioritising electrification.
As has been said above, even if you could order tomorrow it's 50/50 whether it would turn up before Christmas. Spec / options are also as clear as mud around launch time.
I'm not really a fan of BMW's, but i'm also in no rush so happy to wait. My Mk7.5 isn't a terrible option in the meantime. I suppose it depends on what you have now and whether there's any pressing need to replace it.
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I think you could buy and own an m135 for 18 months before you would get a golf gti or r with how long orders take and actually when they open.
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Ideally I'd like to see a mk8 gti before deciding but if it goes on much longer I'll either pick the m135i (which i have driven and is one hell of a hit hatch) or the i30n which is probably more fun but isn't Dsg anytime soon. So we shall see. My mk7.5 is with me now until Christmas so I've got a bit more time.... And right now I don't even need a car much 😔
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Yes, I'd agree it won't be available for the dealers to order in the UK until September/October at the earliest and then about 6 months for delivery.
Don't forget the fun you will also have on day 1 whereby VW UK won't have actually got the configurator right and you will be ordering something without knowing what they decided to include or not include as base spec. Maybe even you might end up minus foglights (again). Just as the first ones are received, they will change the base spec too - probably including something you paid for as an option.
Welcome to VW UK....
Well this is good to read because the same thing happens here in Australia, VW print a brochure, before it is even out for a month, they change the spec or get it wrong in the brochure and then you never know what you will get. I had a shouting match when I went to pic up Mark 7 GTI and it did not have voice control for phone and some of the lighting was not LED like the brochure.... Not a good experience for when you pick up a new car and you have been waiting for months .....
We also have the same problem with servicing .. it is just sh!t lol
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Hi Im a lapsed GTI owner from many years ago. (strayed in Cayman 981 & 718 ownership)
Is it me but Im getting frustrated at no info re the hot Golfs. It was february when the launch
of the GTI was shown. Admittedly covid 19 has had an effect on being able to order but no news is now pushing
me towards the M135i !
I would be looking at the TCR - should I wait??
thanks
I totally agree COVID -19 has had a big effect, but I am not sure what is happening at Volkswagen. Sure we had the launch of the GTI in March. Then, pretty much nothing, no drive days for the media, only a few select Ride alongs at the test track, Other car companies seem to be able to launch and still get a car to the media and market, We also expected the Golf R at Goodwood, where the hell is that?
I am really starting to think they are Golf has started to be forgotten, they have taken there eye off the ball and all the eyes are on the shiny new ID3,
I think they have too much money stuck in that thing that have to get out ASAP so they can start getting money back..
And everything thing else is getting forgotten..
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They definitely have to have their main focus on electric. It might seem a long way off to you and I but the ramp to only electric is begun and the time left to establish yourself as the dominant maker is tiny. Vw left it pretty late...
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They definitely have to have their main focus on electric. It might seem a long way off to you and I but the ramp to only electric is begun and the time left to establish yourself as the dominant maker is tiny. Vw left it pretty late...
It does feels a long time off to me when in Australia there is only two places I know I could charge my car, ikea and Woolworths, and I point out one store only.
My point is this is not a long way off I agree with that, but that Volkswagen has focused on ID3 and has missed the point with Gold Mk 8 ....
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Going to test drive an M135I next week as my local VW dealer can still give no indication as to when the GTI, GTI TCR or R will be
available to order. (the dealer is also a personal friend of mine too!!)
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Enjoy the BMW test drive.. The thing is basically a golf but with BMW interior. Its very nice and very fast with some cracking tech. I saw a white one earlier today on the road and despite my reservations about white on that car, i thought it looked pretty good.
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Unfortunately zero chance of seeing a GTI in the UK till next year.
Factory still way behind on customer orders placed prior to lock down and most of the effort going into greeting ID3 cars launched and delivered by the end of the year.
They still have Golf R mk7.5 coming over for customers :shocked:
Rest assured any more info I will post.
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German configurator is up
Damned if I can get it to work though
https://www.volkswagen.de/de/modelle-und-konfigurator/golf-gti.html :embarrassed:
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Had to turn off translate
Seems you have to order dcc with 19's
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Looks like Kings Red is a premium colour, and there's no sign of the alternative 19 inch wheel pattern previously shown.
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Looks like Kings Red is a premium colour, and there's no sign of the alternative 19 inch wheel pattern previously shown.
I've just been on configurator and there were 3 wheel designs (17",18" & 19") . Are you talking about the 19" design which looks quite thin and "twig" like. (Ok I know terrible description).
If its the one I'm thinking of I think that is the design they showed Arteon R and Tiguan R wearing, so obviously the option R wheel now Hopefully the link works below:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=arteon+r&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=X43sYBK7MsWSkM%252CeNxbUq2v7e5izM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRTiC1chqwRX8M_mIzZyjD7FDXUWw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjv_fjkm7zrAhWWaRUIHXw9AtcQ9QF6BAgIEDY&biw=1366&bih=625#imgrc=X43sYBK7MsWSkM (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=arteon+r&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=X43sYBK7MsWSkM%252CeNxbUq2v7e5izM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRTiC1chqwRX8M_mIzZyjD7FDXUWw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjv_fjkm7zrAhWWaRUIHXw9AtcQ9QF6BAgIEDY&biw=1366&bih=625#imgrc=X43sYBK7MsWSkM)
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Looks like Kings Red is a premium colour, and there's no sign of the alternative 19 inch wheel pattern previously shown.
I've just been on configurator and there were 3 wheel designs (17",18" & 19") . Are you talking about the 19" design which looks quite thin and "twig" like. (Ok I know terrible description).
If its the one I'm thinking of I think that is the design they showed Arteon R and Tiguan R wearing, so obviously the option R wheel now Hopefully the link works below:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=arteon+r&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=X43sYBK7MsWSkM%252CeNxbUq2v7e5izM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRTiC1chqwRX8M_mIzZyjD7FDXUWw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjv_fjkm7zrAhWWaRUIHXw9AtcQ9QF6BAgIEDY&biw=1366&bih=625#imgrc=X43sYBK7MsWSkM (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=arteon+r&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=X43sYBK7MsWSkM%252CeNxbUq2v7e5izM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRTiC1chqwRX8M_mIzZyjD7FDXUWw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjv_fjkm7zrAhWWaRUIHXw9AtcQ9QF6BAgIEDY&biw=1366&bih=625#imgrc=X43sYBK7MsWSkM)
I mean these ones that were shown on the press slides
(https://i.postimg.cc/SNCZDz0X/Golf-Mk8-GTi-Wheels.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Seems the Bergamo pattern isn't (yet) an option either. :undecided:
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Ha ha... yes that's the info I needed to include.
Well, if the shots of a seemingly manufactured Golf R in a warehouse somewhere are anything to go by then the Bergamo pattern are standard R wheels and the other 19" design is the R Option wheel.
The left hand column of wheels (17,18 & 19) are what features on the (german configurator for GTI).
Guzzle - Good spot on the Kings Red Metallic being a Signature colour, I missed that in my excitement to spec the GTI. So that is more money on the options
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Suppose we'll see in time what the R has to offer, the Bergamo's are the upgrade option for the R Line.
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Looked like 37,000 euros for German base spec too. That's thirty three grand in pounds. Always used to be German base spec was cheap because it didn't include much vs UK... Not boding well.... I still think its going to be 35k plus options minimum...
Edit: Managed to make the configurator work and thats roughly 44,000 euros worth when you add a few bits to bring it up to UK Mk7.5 spec....just shy of £40k
That's the same sort of territory as the M135i.... or the TCR.
I am not surprised, but a little disappointed.... lets see what the UK pricing looks like when it lands.
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I wouldn't get too hung up on the German pricing. That €37k price is for DSG, manual will be cheaper. £33k is the same price as the outgoing 7.5 GTi Performance with DSG.
From another perspective, the 1.5 eTSi in R Line spec is €33,230 in Germany, or when converted into the Queens pounds = £29,749. UK list price is actually only £28,705, roughly £1k less than the German price converted into sterling.
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I wouldn't get too hung up on the German pricing. That €37k price is for DSG, manual will be cheaper. £33k is the same price as the outgoing 7.5 GTi Performance with DSG.
From another perspective, the 1.5 eTSi in R Line spec is €33,230 in Germany, or when converted into the Queens pounds = £29,749. UK list price is actually only £28,705, roughly £1k less than the German price converted into sterling.
Absolutely agree. We need to wait and see. I’m sure that the same happened with the TCR on the German Configurator. It was very expensive if you did a straight conversion to £. I never really trust trying to guess the uk price this way. Also, in recent years hasn’t uk spec been better than in Germany? Uk is the biggest market for the gti I think so hopefully this won’t be something that VW get wrong.
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I wouldn't get too hung up on the German pricing. That €37k price is for DSG, manual will be cheaper. £33k is the same price as the outgoing 7.5 GTi Performance with DSG.
I think they need to be very careful on spec vs UK base price though - this Mk8 is sold as "digital" - if you make those digital bits optional extras I think you dilute the concept.
And I've not seen any evidence of a production spec car in manual yet....
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Interesting they tell you what tyre brand you might get.
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Audi S3 is now showing on Drive The Deal. Base spec with S-Tronic is £37,900 before discount, £34,295 after discount. Given the S3 has 4 wheel drive, an extra 60ps and an Audi badge, i'd expect the Golf GTi to be a good chunk less expensive.
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Curious to see offset on the 7.5 x 18 wheels has returned to mk5/6 ET51 instead of the 49mm of the mk7.
Wonder if that’s to do with aerodynamics? Yet the GTI now has 8” wide 19’s as an option which will sit circa 5mm further out than the previous generation 7.5x19 options offsetting any aero gains of the 18” wheels (but looking far far better).
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Now showing on Drive The Deal for cash purchase, no finance offers yet.
GTi approx 9% discount for cash purchase.
GTE approx 5% discount for cash purchase.
https://www.drivethedeal.com/buy-a-new-car/VOLKSWAGEN/GOLF%20HATCHBACK/index.html
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I guess 9% is too bad, was kinda hoping for more like 11% but lets see what VW offer as a deposit contribution, that might take it to somewhere better.
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The current price of the Golf Mk8 GTi is more expensive than expected. With a similar option list compared to my current Golf R it is £6000+ more expensive than what I paid for my Golf R. That is an insane mark up. especially when you are comparing a MK8 Golf GTI to a MK7 Golf R. I was so looking forward to the Golf R being released and was tempted to consider one when it was. But now after seeing the price of the GTI, I am wondering if I should look elsewhere like Audi or BMW. I specced up a Audi S3 the other day and it was a couple grand just under the price of the GTI I specced with similar options list. What are VW doing with their pricing mark up, when an Audi S3 can be specced at a lower price than a GTI?
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When my old gti was stolen I bought an S3 because it was cheaper on finance pm than the 7.5 gti. Mental.
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The current price of the Golf Mk8 GTi is more expensive than expected. With a similar option list compared to my current Golf R it is £6000+ more expensive than what I paid for my Golf R. That is an insane mark up. especially when you are comparing a MK8 Golf GTI to a MK7 Golf R. I was so looking forward to the Golf R being released and was tempted to consider one when it was. But now after seeing the price of the GTI, I am wondering if I should look elsewhere like Audi or BMW. I specced up a Audi S3 the other day and it was a couple grand just under the price of the GTI I specced with similar options list. What are VW doing with their pricing mark up, when an Audi S3 can be specced at a lower price than a GTI?
Prices are ridiculous now.
In May 2017 I paid £27,615 for a Golf R 310 3dr DSG in Lapiz Blue. It had a Rear view camera, Black door mirrors & 90% tinted glass. I really wish I hadn't sold it a year later.
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The current price of the Golf Mk8 GTi is more expensive than expected. With a similar option list compared to my current Golf R it is £6000+ more expensive than what I paid for my Golf R. That is an insane mark up. especially when you are comparing a MK8 Golf GTI to a MK7 Golf R. I was so looking forward to the Golf R being released and was tempted to consider one when it was. But now after seeing the price of the GTI, I am wondering if I should look elsewhere like Audi or BMW. I specced up a Audi S3 the other day and it was a couple grand just under the price of the GTI I specced with similar options list. What are VW doing with their pricing mark up, when an Audi S3 can be specced at a lower price than a GTI?
Prices are ridiculous now.
In May 2017 I paid £27,615 for a Golf R 310 3dr DSG in Lapiz Blue. It had a Rear view camera, Black door mirrors & 90% tinted glass. I really wish I hadn't sold it a year later.
To be fair, you got a really great deal there. Even back then that was almost a £35k car with options, so you got almost 20% discount if it was brand new.
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The current price of the Golf Mk8 GTi is more expensive than expected. With a similar option list compared to my current Golf R it is £6000+ more expensive than what I paid for my Golf R. That is an insane mark up. especially when you are comparing a MK8 Golf GTI to a MK7 Golf R. I was so looking forward to the Golf R being released and was tempted to consider one when it was. But now after seeing the price of the GTI, I am wondering if I should look elsewhere like Audi or BMW. I specced up a Audi S3 the other day and it was a couple grand just under the price of the GTI I specced with similar options list. What are VW doing with their pricing mark up, when an Audi S3 can be specced at a lower price than a GTI?
Prices are ridiculous now.
In May 2017 I paid £27,615 for a Golf R 310 3dr DSG in Lapiz Blue. It had a Rear view camera, Black door mirrors & 90% tinted glass. I really wish I hadn't sold it a year later.
To be fair, you got a really great deal there. Even back then that was almost a £35k car with options, so you got almost 20% discount if it was brand new.
That's true. But even with ordinary discounts you could get one for £30K easily. Will have to compare like for like I guess when the car is launched and discounts are offered.
It was a new factory order.
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I appreciate this won't interest everyone, but details of UK pricing for the Skoda Octavia vRS have sneaked out on another forum;-
The all-new OCTAVIA vRS 2.0 TSI 245PS DSG will be available for customer ordering from Tuesday 27 October.
More engines will be introduced on vRS later this year, including a 2.0 TSI 245PS manual, 2.0 TDI 200PS DSG and DSG 4x4, plus the plug-in hybrid vRS iV with a 1.4 TSI iV 245PS DSG.
The 2.0TSi 245PS DSG Hatchback is available from £31495 OTR and the Estate from £32695 OTR.
The all new OCTAVIA vRS standard specification will include:
19-inch Altair anthracite alloy wheels, Full LED Matrix headlights with AFS (adaptive front light system), Exterior gloss black sports styling including front grille, side strip, window surrounds, door mirrors and badging, Rear privacy glass, Electrically operated boot, vRS exterior design – vRS bumpers and lip spoiler (hatch only), and red brake calipers, Chrome exhaust tailpipes, Black vRS sports upholstery with red stitching, Black headlining, Front heated seats, Three-spoke leather sports multi-function steering wheel with paddles for DSG, Carbon optic decorative inserts, Alcantara padded dash panel with contrast stitching, LED interior light pack (ambient lighting), Aluminium pedals, Columbus satellite navigation with 10-inch touchscreen display, Sports suspension (15mm lower than standard OCTAVIA, excludes vRS iV), Front and rear parking sensors with manoeuvre assist, Adaptive cruise control, Progressive dynamic steering, Keyless entry and start/stop including rear doors.
Meteor Grey Special Paint is a No Cost Option.
Chargeable Options available at launch include:
Metallic, Pearl and Special Paint £595
Exclusive Paint £975
Dynamic chassis control (DCC) including performance mode select £925
Virtual pedal (Enables touch-free boot opening via a motion sensor under the rear bumper. If the system identifies the authorised key and detects the 'kick' motion, the boot will open. Includes electrically operated boot functionality. Includes rear LED lights (high functionality) and dynamic indicators and power-operated child safety locks) £580
Temporary space-saver spare wheel including 125/70 R18 tyre £180
Integrated tow bar with adapter (The tow bar can be easily released from the boot and folded away after use. Includes preparation of the following vehicle systems for optimised operation whilst towing: alternator, battery, fan and cooling system) £955
Rear window wiper FOC
Simply clever pack - Includes a double sided boot floor, a media holder and a waste bin £95
CANTON Sound System (This sound system delivers a total output of 610W and features a 10 channel digital amplifier and 12 speakers: 6 front, 4 rear, 1 in the dashboard and a 200W subwoofer in the boot. Includes 12 pre-set sound profiles, vehicle noise cancellation and 3D surround sound. Delivers Dolby 5.1 surround sound when combined with Columbus satellite navigation system. Only in combination with Electrically Operated Boot or Virtual Pedal and temporary steel space saver spare wheel) £685
Wireless charging £325
Rear-view parking camera Including rear LED lights (high functionality) and dynamic indicators £595
Park assist (Parks the car in parallel or bay spaces) £345
Head-up display £690
Driver fatigue sensor£45
Winter pack - Includes heated steering wheel, heated windscreen and heated windscreen washer nozzles. £340
Crew protect assist and side airbags (front and rear), curtain airbags and front centre airbag (Senses when an impact is imminent and closes windows and sunroof to protect the passengers from objects entering the car as well as tightening the seatbelts ensuring occupants are in the safest possible position) £665
Prices and specification correct as at 29th September 2020
https://www.simpsonsskoda.co.uk/new-vehicles/skoda-octavia-2020/
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I guess 9% is too bad, was kinda hoping for more like 11% but lets see what VW offer as a deposit contribution, that might take it to somewhere better.
Now offering 11% discount, but no news on finance contributions :whistle:
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I guess 9% is too bad, was kinda hoping for more like 11% but lets see what VW offer as a deposit contribution, that might take it to somewhere better.
Now offering 11% discount, but no news on finance contributions :whistle:
Apparently today VWFS have it on their system.... but you can't get quotes yet.... I have been asking ;-)
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Ahhh on the UK configurator it has a Mk8 Golf offer:
5.4% APR representative.
£1,250 towards your deposit.
Guessing the GTI will be the same (at the moment thats only R-Line, Life and Style).... wonder if the shift to 11% discount is just including that on top of the ~9% before
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My dealer says that VWFS had guessed it was going to be live today, but its not. VWUK apparently not decided what the offer for deposit contribution (and presumably interest rates etc) is, which we can conclude means its different to the other Mk8 offer.
Maybe next week...
It's almost like they were caught unaware that a new car was being released.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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My dealer says that VWFS had guessed it was going to be live today, but its not. VWUK apparently not decided what the offer for deposit contribution (and presumably interest rates etc) is, which we can conclude means its different to the other Mk8 offer.
Maybe next week...
It's almost like they were caught unaware that a new car was being released.... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I don’t believe you. These things normally run like clockwork at VW. Wait a minute.... :grin:
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Looks like Drive The Deal have upped their discounts again on the GTi. Now includes the deposit contribution.
GTi dsg List price £34,960
Discount £5,071.12 (14.5%)
Discounted price £29,888.88
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I’ve just put an order in for a DSG, DCC and Dolphin grey, just heard back that the production time is 14 weeks! Ho hum.
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I’ve just put an order in for a DSG, DCC and Dolphin grey, just heard back that the production time is 14 weeks! Ho hum.
like this ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jg7LK7d/122007302-381803986302950-6773556409488.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXjhrYyS/122120854-3335319609878474-198806695118.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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That is Moonstone Grey (non metallic). Dolphin Grey is a bit like the old Carbon Grey from the Mk6 & Mk7. I seem to remember Audi also used to have Dolphin Grey many years ago.
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That is Moonstone Grey (non metallic). Dolphin Grey is a bit like the old Carbon Grey from the Mk6 & Mk7. I seem to remember Audi also used to have Dolphin Grey many years ago.
Noted/thanks - got excited (sort of) seeing a pic of a new one - will leave it on post though as may be of interest to others
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That is Moonstone Grey (non metallic). Dolphin Grey is a bit like the old Carbon Grey from the Mk6 & Mk7. I seem to remember Audi also used to have Dolphin Grey many years ago.
Noted/thanks - got excited (sort of) seeing a pic of a new one - will leave it on post though as may be of interest to others
👍
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Is it just me or does that grey one have ninety percent tinted rear?
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I thought I had seen something that it was standard but the configurator says 65% tint is standard
And no option for 90% tint either on the configurator or price list.
It does look very dark
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I got back a PCP quote.... bog standard GTI DSG in freebie white. 3 years PCP, 12k miles per annum GFV of £15,907.
TBH thats a pretty good residual - its practically 50%.
The 5.4% interest rate not so good - its nearly 100 quid a month in interest alone - which in relation to the monthly payments, its almost 25% of the monthly 400 quid payments. Seen like that, it highlights the starkness of the sting - maybe some of you have never looked at it like that before.
Definitely if you can do it, take the PCP and cash out. You definitely won't be seeing £100 a month interest on your cash in the bank anytime soon!
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I got back a PCP quote.... bog standard GTI DSG in freebie white. 3 years PCP, 12k miles per annum GFV of £15,907.
TBH thats a pretty good residual - its practically 50%.
The 5.4% interest rate not so good - its nearly 100 quid a month in interest alone - which in relation to the monthly payments, its almost 25% of the monthly 400 quid payments. Seen like that, it highlights the starkness of the sting - maybe some of you have never looked at it like that before.
Definitely if you can do it, take the PCP and cash out. You definitely won't be seeing £100 a month interest on your cash in the bank anytime soon!
Thanks for the info Fred. This is why I got the PCP then paid it off with a personal loan with my R. Only 2.9% and it’s so straightforward to work out what you owe and have paid. It’s one of the reasons I was in a decent position when I was looking at the TCR. I’d never buy on pcp again if I could avoid it.
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To get an idea if that 3 year GFV is conservative or not, have you had any valuations for your current car?
I remember getting quotes for mine 3 years ago. I was tempted to go the PCP route as I wanted the flexibility it offered. But even with the hefty broker discount it still worked out something like £100 per month more than PCH. The PCH also included breakdown cover and the 2nd years tax. So that's the way I went. Obviously that didn't take into account the possibility of equity at the end of the PCP term, but at the time I didn't have much confidence in the level of the GFV providing much equity.
Things are different now though and lease is certainly not as attractive as it was back then. All things considered i'd try to avoid PCP though where the interest rate is on the high side. If you've got the cash or you're able to get a personal loan at a lower rate (appreciate it's not always that easy, especially for a large amount) then i'd do as said above. Take the finance incentive then pay off asap.
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To get an idea if that 3 year GFV is conservative or not, have you had any valuations for your current car?
Yes, I'd say looking at my current GTD, that figure sounds neither too high or too low.
Its a brand new model, in three years time its still the brand new model and the first 3 year old stock available.
To put it into perspective, thats 3k more than the GFV on a TCR quote I got earlier this year and the TCR was 5k more expensive than this bog standard GTI DSG too - 8k difference to pay for (plus interest) over 36 months...
which is why the Mk8 is 400 quid a month and the TCR was 600...
I was concerned that the Mk8 was going down this path of super expensive crazy, seems not though. Or not right now anyway.
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For comparison purposes.
Golf Mk8 GTi DSG personal contract hire;-
Flat white paint, no optional extras
3 years, 10k miles per year
Initial rental £2,121.84
Monthly payments 35 x £353.64
Total lease cost including tax & breakdown cover £14,499.24
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That's not a bad price at all.
I've moved from PCPs to PCH/Lease on my last car, and not sure i'd go back to PCP now.
Would you mind sharing who you obtained the quote from?
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No problem. Was Listers via What Car leasing. Manual available also at lower cost.
https://www.whatcar.com/car-leasing/deals/#price_type=personal&manufacturer_id=86&range_id=r253&derivative_id=159076&mileage_id=0&contract_length=36&type=0&
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@ Guzzle - great thankyou.
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Just been looking at Autotrader and they have a few Mk8 GTI for sale.
Listers Worcester. Atlantic Blue DSG with £1700 off
Stourbridge Volkswagen Dolphin Grey with £930 off
Volkswagen Chelmsford Moonstone Grey with £2932 off
There was another four GTIs.
So are these genuinely for sale or is the dealer going to say, Ah yes but you can’t take it away till end of Jan?
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Good find! Must say though that I don’t really like either of those. Not sure if it’s the colours or the design. The front looks very rounded if you know what I mean.
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Yeah good find.
Interesting to see dealers advertising these so early. I can't see anything to suggest that they're demo's, and they look mostly standard rather than dripping with options. So I would guess that they're for sale now, but only one way to know for sure.
Not sure i'd be paying those prices though unless I was desperate to get one quickly.
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In case anyone’s interested...
(https://i.postimg.cc/gj0fN7wy/4-A2336-C1-1-F50-4-E59-8-C70-136-C4041-F94-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Fd2WKDV1)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/XNDhnQGh/739-A6-C03-1-BF2-43-A9-A3-FD-A6-E592-E5-AE8-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V5n4R9FB)
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I was offered a bog standard gti Dsg in probably November... So I guess there are some stock vehicles in the pipeline. Which surprised me.
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Yes, they do seem to be standard, so probably early production before the complicated builds start with options included and the orders.
4 of the 7 cars seem to be with Chelmsford VW so I don’t know if they like snapping up new stock or just expecting lots of early adopters in Essex
I’d like to see a Kings Red one but I don’t think black works at all with the Mk8.
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I wonder why VW retained the original font for the GTI badge on the steering wheel of the mk8 GTI when all other mk8 GTI badging (front grille, tailgate, ‘blade’ badges on the front wings) has been changed to the new style font. An oversight on VW’s part?
Steering wheel GTI badge - original font;
(https://i.postimg.cc/GtLgjvRQ/F56-D15-AE-F07-D-4-B89-95-C1-65-B261-CAAC95.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Tailgate GTI badge for comparison - new font;
(https://i.postimg.cc/hjb3xpkv/B25-F9609-10-B9-4219-B91-C-BA43-C55-BC8-BC.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Now that’s a good spot!
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Cracking rebranding job :laugh:
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Probably some accountant will have worked out that the new font is €0.01 cheaper to produce but they have to use up all the old badges first :laugh:
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UK GTi in black
(https://i.postimg.cc/vB8Dr8ZT/0g3h4l8x3ou51.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDK2jvrc)[/url]
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Cars are obviously becoming available now. One of my local dealers has emailed me asking if I want a test drive.
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Just noticed in the email he says the car ‘looks well’. Not exactly a ringing a ringing endorsement! :grin:
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Just noticed in the email he says the car ‘looks well’. Not exactly a ringing a ringing endorsement! :grin:
Maybe they were trying to reassure you that it hasn't got covid?? :undecided:
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Centralukvehicleleasing.uk
£3000 + 24 x 275 (5000 miles rising to 340 for 15000 miles)
£363 + 36 x 363 (5000 miles rising to 412 for 15000 miles)
Auto add £35 month
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My brother was given a pcp quote over 3 years on a gti today.
£500 in.
£1250 dealer contribution plus another £1250 from discount. (I know that’s not great!)
Dsg gti
Metallic paint
Adelaide alloys and DCC
£591pm. I’ll say that again.... five hundred and ninety one pounds per month.
Oh how I laughed when I was told.
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Wow! That seems so high. So not much chance of R for 300 per month :grin: :grin:
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Wow! That seems so high. So not much chance of R for 300 per month :grin: :grin:
Was that £300 or £3000? :grin:
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What was the price for the car and the extras? And the gfv?
Remember with PCP you are paying for the difference plus interest. Both numbers will adjust the monthlies...
I got the base Dsg quoted at a tad over 30k...
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What was the price for the car and the extras? And the gfv?
Remember with PCP you are paying for the difference plus interest. Both numbers will adjust the monthlies...
I got the base Dsg quoted at a tad over 30k...
Just the stuff in the post above were extras I think. GFV was around £14.5k but don’t quote me. As it wasn’t for me I wasn’t paying a great deal of attention if I’m honest. To say that my brother was surprised would be an understatement. I might as well just get another SQ5 was his response! :grin:
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That is a shocker of a monthly, mine worked out at four hundred a month, which means his price minus gfv (including extras) was fifty percent more (roughly).
Paint is 600? Dcc is 800? Wheels are?
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£900 ish for the wheels. I really couldn’t believe it. Crackers isn’t it?
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Wow! That seems so high. So not much chance of R for 300 per month :grin: :grin:
Was that £300 or £3000? :grin:
£3k down, £300 per month for 12 years :nerd:
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So that's about £2300 of extras and about £2500 more for the base price makes £4800 more (that's £133 a month plus interest) and then a lower customer deposit... And a lower gfv (i went for 12k miles, maybe he went higher)... Yes I can easily see how it's six hundred quid and it really can't be any different.
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Wow! That seems so high. So not much chance of R for 300 per month :grin: :grin:
Was that £300 or £3000? :grin:
£3k down, £300 per month for 12 years :nerd:
I’ll take it.....where do I sign :grin: :grin:
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So that's about £2300 of extras and about £2500 more for the base price makes £4800 more (that's £133 a month plus interest) and then a lower customer deposit... And a lower gfv (i went for 12k miles, maybe he went higher)... Yes I can easily see how it's six hundred quid and it really can't be any different.
He only went for 10k miles. Something’s not right there eh!
Great breakdown btw Fred!
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According to VW finance calculator dsg after 3 years @10k p.a. should be £16,416. Add 35 x £591 and the £500 deposit takes it to £37,601 (or £40,101 with the discount/finance contribution).
List price plus extras is £37,095 :undecided:
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According to VW finance calculator dsg after 3 years @10k p.a. should be £16,416. Add 35 x £591 and the £500 deposit takes it to £37,601 (or £40,101 with the discount/finance contribution).
List price plus extras is £37,095 :undecided:
Right, I’m officially saying now that the figures can’t be accurate. There’s got to have been a mistake. Perhaps the mistake was even asking for figures in the first place though. :grin:
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Wow! That seems so high. So not much chance of R for 300 per month :grin: :grin:
Was that £300 or £3000? :grin:
£3k down, £300 per month for 12 years :nerd:
I’ll take it.....where do I sign :grin: :grin:
And would you like our highly competitive apr of 25.4%?
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I appreciate some people on here don't care about the pennies, it's just a car they want but i thought it worth highlighting how you end up with a mental PCP monthly payment...
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I appreciate some people on here don't care about the pennies, it's just a car they want but i thought it worth highlighting how you end up with a mental PCP monthly payment...
Absolutely right. I care greatly about the pennies. Many moons, before I joined this forum, I ended up in a dreadful pcp on a Vw. Never again.
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According to VW finance calculator dsg after 3 years @10k p.a. should be £16,416. Add 35 x £591 and the £500 deposit takes it to £37,601 (or £40,101 with the discount/finance contribution).
List price plus extras is £37,095 :undecided:
Right, I’m officially saying now that the figures can’t be accurate. There’s got to have been a mistake. Perhaps the mistake was even asking for figures in the first place though. :grin:
There will also be 3 years worth of interest :wink:
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According to VW finance calculator dsg after 3 years @10k p.a. should be £16,416. Add 35 x £591 and the £500 deposit takes it to £37,601 (or £40,101 with the discount/finance contribution).
List price plus extras is £37,095 :undecided:
Right, I’m officially saying now that the figures can’t be accurate. There’s got to have been a mistake. Perhaps the mistake was even asking for figures in the first place though. :grin:
There will also be 3 years worth of interest :wink:
Yeah about four grand of it...
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He’s just had another dreadful quote. £480pm over 4 years on a gti dsg with no options. My mind is indeed boggled. Oh and that apparently included a £5.2k discount. Someone’s telling porkies.
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Try drive the deal...
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Not sure I would ever advocate taking a PCH over 4 years, but with DSG, 19's and DCC that should be around £420 per month with £420 initial payment at 10k miles per annum. Or £462 per month over 3 years.
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Try drive the deal...
I’ve told him to Fred but he’s having none of it! Personally I can’t believe we’re talking of figures over £400pm like it’s normal for a Golf. Is it just me? I think it’s absolute crackers.
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Personally I can’t believe we’re talking of figures over £400pm like it’s normal for a Golf. Is it just me? I think it’s absolute crackers.
Yeah I can, remember we talked about a 4% price rise per annum? And the Mk7 launch was 7 years ago....4% compounded is just under a 32% price rise.... your 300 quid monthly is 400 quid. bingo.
And the big thing to note is that the GFV really hasn't moved upward in line with the purchase prise.
The amount of money burn (depreciation) is increasing...
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Lease deals are starting to appear now, in the region of £390/month on a 3+35 / 10k profile (DSG).
I'm waiting on figures for the Octavia vRS and BMW 128ti to see how they compare.
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Lease deals are starting to appear now, in the region of £390/month on a 3+35 / 10k profile (DSG).
I'm waiting on figures for the Octavia vRS and BMW 128ti to see how they compare.
Yeah the lease deals are fine as long as you don’t add options. Stable were advertising below £340pm I think with nothing added and 6 months up front. I’d rather not have a gti than lease with no options though. All personal choice
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As long as the options you want are fairly modest, leasing still looks cheaper than PCP.
To put it another way, DCC, 19's and metallic paint adds about £60 per month to a 3 year PCH. On PCP at 5.4%, every £10k you borrow is costing £45 per month just in interest alone.
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Lease deals are starting to appear now, in the region of £390/month on a 3+35 / 10k profile (DSG).
I'm waiting on figures for the Octavia vRS and BMW 128ti to see how they compare.
I'm also interested to see how the vRS figures look. Lower list price, more equipment, bigger discount and lower interest rate. Could make the GTi look really expensive. All depends on how good (or bad) the GFV's are.
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random question - are the MK8 iq matrix led's the same as (or better/totally different) to the 7.5 dla led's?
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Haven't tried either so no idea whether the IQ lights are any better than Dynamic Light Assist on the Mk7.5. But the two systems are different.
Dynamic Light Assist can automatically put the main beam on and uses cameras to mask it at the appropriate time to prevent blinding oncoming traffic.
https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/dynamic-light-assist-3671
IQ Lights are multiple individually controlled LED's.
https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/iqlight-led-matrix-headlights-3938
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With lease deals on many tempting cars coming in under £400 I'd find it hard to go PCP again, unless I planned on refinancing at some point, and to run the car for 5-6 years.
For me personally I also like the 36 month lease, as I'm always cover by a warranty, and can change cars regularly.
Options on both lease and PCP push up the price, which is why the best value is in finding a car that doesn't need any options adding!
Most cars seem to lack at least one thing on my must have list, it's just a shame the GTI seems to lack a few things I'd want to add which would push the cost up quite a bit.
Still very keen to get another GTI, but not at any cost!
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Is it actually any cheaper to lease though?
If you add up the total payments it any less?
With any luck you get your deposit back on PCP, not true on leases.
If your name isn't on the v5 is it more expensive to insure?
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Insurance is the same, with so many people leasing now the insurance companies are fine with it.
In my experience the equity is minimal, and there's all the hassel either trying to pay off the balloon and sell privately, or trade it in.
If you can get a lease on special offer, no PCP will touch it for value unless at 0% APR and a very big discount.
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The lease deals posted here for the GTi look a bit cheaper than the PCP quotes we've seen.
You don't get your deposit back on PCH that's true, but there's no certainty of equity at the end in PCP either. In my experience insurance is slightly more expensive if on PCH, but not significantly so; it's a few quid. You also get your vehicle tax and breakdown cover paid for on PCH, which should more than cover any marginal uplift in insurance.
Obviously it's not as flexible as PCP, so if you bite off more than you can chew or your circumstances change it can be more expensive to get out of. But it's certainly worth doing the maths if you like a new car every 2 or 3 years and you're sure of your ability to make the payments each month.
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More ridiculous figures today. So my brother did contact DTD. Nearly £6 discount in the end but monthlies over 3 years of £531. Now he’s only putting £500 in himself but these finances are just bizarre. Frustrating that I’m only hearing it second hand so not got the exact details.
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I didn't realise you could only put £500 in. DTD asks for a minimum £1k at point of order. :undecided:
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Yeah apparently £500 is ok. So surprised by these prices. I certainly won’t buy another performance Golf for that kind of money. My S3 was nowhere near as much as these prices.
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Just noticed there are new 19 wheels available to spec on the GTI configurator. Mentions progressive steering in the info.
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Just noticed there are new 19 wheels available to spec on the GTI configurator. Mentions progressive steering in the info.
Oh wow, yes there they are 19” Estoril. They are diamond turned ( so that will please many on the site :grin:)
No price info at present but I chose DCC for 19” and then could select those wheels. I think they look best choice yet in terms of wheels
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Just noticed there are new 19 wheels available to spec on the GTI configurator. Mentions progressive steering in the info.
Good spot! Also showing for the GTD. Although oddly not showing on the German configurator :undecided:
These look like the wheels that appeared on the original press slides from a few months ago, although they also look pretty much identical to the latest R wheels from the Tiguan / Arteon / Touareg.
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I have been waiting for those wheels, I am so excited about them, I have really liked them since the original press photo that VW then went and changed.
If you go to the German site they have added other new wheels for the club sport "cup" wheels and another Estoril wheel but in black, but there is a error and you can't see them
Now just for stupid VW Australia to provide them when they release the car here
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They look identical to the R Spielberg alloys to me. Good to have more choice though.
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They look identical to the R Spielberg alloys to me. Good to have more choice though.
Quite different when they’re seen side by side. Agree that it’s good to have more choice though.
Mk7.5R 19” Spielberg alloys;
(https://i.postimg.cc/GTwvp2dx/374-C7545-4560-4975-9-E41-C7-CC90390908.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GTwvp2dx)
Mk8 19” Estoril alloys;
(https://i.postimg.cc/T5Vg56PM/6-BE59709-BC9-E-4794-832-D-5237-BB1-C4-D53.png) (https://postimg.cc/T5Vg56PM)
Why oh why does VW (and other car manufacturers) persist in forcing diamond cut alloys on us! :angry:
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The app must have had the wrong image this morning!
(https://i.postimg.cc/NFgxvKBr/DE608-A48-4229-411-C-BA16-999034596-A89.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZBMNrK9T)
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The app must have had the wrong image this morning!
Yes, they’re definitely Spielberg alloys in the image you’ve posted.
Errors in product spec information seem to be pretty much the norm for VW. There are almost always inconsistencies between the configurator and the brochure, or incorrect details in the brochure.
When the current model Polo was launched, owners who specc’d the optional winter pack were expecting to get headlamp washers and heated washer jets along with heated seats and low washer fluid warning as that was the information in the brochure. The just got heated seats and washer fluid warning lamp. That error remained in successive updates of the brochure for a number of months. Some owners who ordered the winter pack got a refund on the price they paid for it.
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The 19” Estoril wheels have been removed off the website .. I think some made a bo bo ...
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They look identical to the R Spielberg alloys to me. Good to have more choice though.
Quite different when they’re seen side by side. Agree that it’s good to have more choice though.
Mk7.5R 19” Spielberg alloys;
(https://i.postimg.cc/GTwvp2dx/374-C7545-4560-4975-9-E41-C7-CC90390908.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GTwvp2dx)
Mk8 19” Estoril alloys;
(https://i.postimg.cc/T5Vg56PM/6-BE59709-BC9-E-4794-832-D-5237-BB1-C4-D53.png) (https://postimg.cc/T5Vg56PM)
Why oh why does VW (and other car manufacturers) persist in forcing diamond cut alloys on us! :angry:
And why do they insist on using directional designs, that turn clockwise on one side of the car and anti-clockwise on the other? I had to opt for the Santiagos, just for this reason.
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Just seen this finance example on a car on AT. Any wonder I think they’ll be hard to shift? What a terrible deal.
(https://i.postimg.cc/KYv9mV4L/7-CD86623-C70-C-45-FA-86-EA-E144751-D8803.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Yqv5W6N)
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That is a poor deal if it's a standard car as it's only about £1k discount.
We know the size of the discounts available from brokers and how much margin is in the car, so people really need to push hard to make sure they don't overpay.
That said, with an interest rate of 5% above base rate PCP just doesn't look appealing even with a big discount. A standard car on PCH on the same terms is over £100 per month less and with only half the deposit. That's around £7k cheaper :undecided:
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That is a poor deal if it's a standard car as it's only about £1k discount.
We know the size of the discounts available from brokers and how much margin is in the car, so people really need to push hard to make sure they don't overpay.
That said, with an interest rate of 5% above base rate PCP just doesn't look appealing even with a big discount. A standard car on PCH on the same terms is over £100 per month less and with only half the deposit. That's around £7k cheaper :undecided:
Couldn’t agree more. Perhaps the PCP bubble has finally burst. It wasn’t going to last forever.
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I don't know why anyone is surprised by these PCP quotes. We know the list rrp prices, we know the gfv's, we know the sort of dealer discount available, the vw contribution and the Apr. You can't alter maths.
This is 2021, it's eight years after the mk7. Guess what, its more expensive.
The only thing is that wages haven't gone up in line with, well, anything.
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All those things are true, but the problem I see with the quotes i've seen so far is an unspectacular PCP rate coupled with an artificially high list price and not much discount.
The difference between getting a £1k discount (i.e. nothing if we assume that's just the VW contribution) and a £5k discount is going to be about £125 per month over 3 years.
Not only would you not be getting the benefit of an extra £4k off at the front end, but you'll also be paying interest on the discount you didn't get for the next x number of years.
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But as I said, you will find about 3k off and £1250 from vw.
Still leaves a big old pile of money to pay off and 5.9% is a terrible rate for right now.
It's the 4% increase in rrp each year since 2013 that's totally killed it. That makes about a third extra over 2013.
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Yeah but I was pointing out that the quote above is not a good quote though and does not represent the best that is available. It's only £1k less than the 'standard' offering on the VW finance calculator.
Anyone that hasn't looked at a VW price list since 2013 would get a shock if they compared then to now, but in fairness there is mitigation.
Looking at my price list from Jan 2015 (so nearly 6 years ago) the GTi DSG 5dr with Performance Pack and 230ps listed at £29,645. The Mk8 with 245ps now lists at £34,960. A £5,315 difference (+18%), or £886 per year.
Bear in mind though that an early 2015 Mk7 had no sat nav, no keyless entry, no winter pack (yeah the Mk8 has no heated seats either), no App Connect, no digital dash, no matrix LED headlights.
VW aren't the only company to lift their prices. A Focus ST starts at £33,260. Not that much cheaper than the GTi. But where Ford and BMW are offering APR's below 3%, VW want 5%+. For me, that's the killer. :sad:
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They look identical to the R Spielberg alloys to me. Good to have more choice though.
Quite different when they’re seen side by side. Agree that it’s good to have more choice though.
Mk7.5R 19” Spielberg alloys;
(https://i.postimg.cc/GTwvp2dx/374-C7545-4560-4975-9-E41-C7-CC90390908.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GTwvp2dx)
Mk8 19” Estoril alloys;
(https://i.postimg.cc/T5Vg56PM/6-BE59709-BC9-E-4794-832-D-5237-BB1-C4-D53.png) (https://postimg.cc/T5Vg56PM)
Why oh why does VW (and other car manufacturers) persist in forcing diamond cut alloys on us! :angry:
And why do they insist on using directional designs, that turn clockwise on one side of the car and anti-clockwise on the other? I had to opt for the Santiagos, just for this reason.
Is it me or do the Estoril wheels look very very similar to the SEAT CUPRA R wheels?
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They look identical to the R Spielberg alloys to me. Good to have more choice though.
Quite different when they’re seen side by side. Agree that it’s good to have more choice though.
Mk7.5R 19” Spielberg alloys;
(https://i.postimg.cc/GTwvp2dx/374-C7545-4560-4975-9-E41-C7-CC90390908.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GTwvp2dx)
Mk8 19” Estoril alloys;
(https://i.postimg.cc/T5Vg56PM/6-BE59709-BC9-E-4794-832-D-5237-BB1-C4-D53.png) (https://postimg.cc/T5Vg56PM)
Why oh why does VW (and other car manufacturers) persist in forcing diamond cut alloys on us! :angry:
And why do they insist on using directional designs, that turn clockwise on one side of the car and anti-clockwise on the other? I had to opt for the Santiagos, just for this reason.
Is it me or do the Estoril wheels look very very similar to the SEAT CUPRA R wheels?
Do you mean these ones? Yeah they're similar, except for the colour obviously.
(https://i.postimg.cc/76NhRyyZ/seat-leon-cupra-r-hirek-2017-loero-38502.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Yeah but I was pointing out that the quote above is not a good quote though and does not represent the best that is available. It's only £1k less than the 'standard' offering on the VW finance calculator.
Anyone that hasn't looked at a VW price list since 2013 would get a shock if they compared then to now, but in fairness there is mitigation.
Looking at my price list from Jan 2015 (so nearly 6 years ago) the GTi DSG 5dr with Performance Pack and 230ps listed at £29,645. The Mk8 with 245ps now lists at £34,960. A £5,315 difference (+18%), or £886 per year.
Bear in mind though that an early 2015 Mk7 had no sat nav, no keyless entry, no winter pack (yeah the Mk8 has no heated seats either), no App Connect, no digital dash, no matrix LED headlights.
VW aren't the only company to lift their prices. A Focus ST starts at £33,260. Not that much cheaper than the GTi. But where Ford and BMW are offering APR's below 3%, VW want 5%+. For me, that's the killer. :sad:
Yup, quite agree!
There really isn't any reason for such a gouging APR either - given BoE lending rates, this should be super low especially as they should be trying to encourage sales both because of a new model and what with the utter economic disaster right now.
I'm still not sure why anyone would buy the Focus for similar money - I know that AutoCar review picked the focus over the GTI but when I looked at it not so long ago it really felt even worse than the Mk8.... I'm sure both drive just beautifully, no reason to doubt that at all, but I think for that kind of money the bit that I have to look at needs to feel a bit like its expensive.
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I would think the people buying the Focus ST will probably be the diehard Ford fans, and those that put horsepower and flat cornering over everyday usability. I've also looked at the Focus interior and cannot see how anyone would think it's a match for the Mk8 interior. :undecided:
To underline the point about PCP interest rates, here's a shocker from the Honda website. A base spec Civic Type R is £32,820, so over £2k less than a GTi. Even if you're putting £4k down, over 3 years and 10k miles p.a., thanks to the shocking 5.9% APR and no deposit contribution, it's £475 per month. For a Civic. :shocked:
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The world has indeed gone mad. That’s completely crackers.
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Yeah the Type R in all of my calculations is pretty expensive.... so is the Megane RS.
Thing is both of my Mk7's were cheeeeeep..... which was a revelation at the time, having come from all sorts of marques I wont even mention...
Seems that sweet spot is gone.
I guess most people choose a car based on some sort of preconception, I tend to be mindful of having my trousers pulled down...
PS my TCR quote from January 2020 was 4.9%... not quite sure why its so high now. Mind you the whole numbers of that one were eye watering.
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I always thought the TCR was badly priced. More than an R which made little sense at the time. Maybe though it was just a sign of things to come.
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Remember clarkson’s car years?
Difference between fast ford and golf gti? Nothing- except the people who buy them.
If you wear a barbour jacket you buy the golf, wear a shell suit you buy the ford.
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Just had a look on Audi’s website. It’s 6% apr on the S3. :lipsrsealed:
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PS my TCR quote from January 2020 was 4.9%... not quite sure why its so high now. Mind you the whole numbers of that one were eye watering.
I ordered my TCR in January the day before the books closed and got the 0% Apr on PCP.
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PS my TCR quote from January 2020 was 4.9%... not quite sure why its so high now. Mind you the whole numbers of that one were eye watering.
I ordered my TCR in January the day before the books closed and got the 0% Apr on PCP.
No one likes a show off. :wink:
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PS my TCR quote from January 2020 was 4.9%... not quite sure why its so high now. Mind you the whole numbers of that one were eye watering.
I ordered my TCR in January the day before the books closed and got the 0% Apr on PCP.
No one likes a show off. :wink:
😂. I was very lucky just getting my order in before books closed. I definitely wouldn't have bought it without the 0%.
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So for the same money my brother’s been offered for a GTI he’s been able a Merc A35.
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So for the same money my brother’s been offered for a GTI he’s been able a Merc A35.
Which one exactly?
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A35 Premium I’ve been told. Means nothing to me!
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Looks like without trying too hard a A35 premium is about 38k. Never could work out from Mercedes exactly what you get in terms of kit from that, but it is 300bhp and 4wd.
I've never got excited about a Merc though.
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Looks like without trying too hard a A35 premium is about 38k. Never could work out from Mercedes exactly what you get in terms of kit from that, but it is 300bhp and 4wd.
I've never got excited about a Merc though.
Me neither but this just further illustrates why the gti will struggle in my opinion. £470 down and £470pm over 4 years with 10k miles.
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£470 per month over 4 years? That's over £22k, surely a GTi can be had for less than that?
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£470 per month over 4 years? That's over £22k, surely a GTi can be had for less than that?
He’s tried, struggled and ended up frustrated! With metallic paint, 19s and DCC it’s proving to be very difficult.
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£470 per month over 4 years? That's over £22k, surely a GTi can be had for less than that?
He’s tried, struggled and ended up frustrated! With metallic paint, 19s and DCC it’s proving to be very difficult.
Its the deposit he's missing out on.... he's putting down the minimum, which boosts the monthlies and attracts a crap load of interest, which adds to the monthlies even more.
Need to increase the deposit or find an OEM offering a cheaper interest rate (or both!)
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£470 per month over 4 years? That's over £22k, surely a GTi can be had for less than that?
He’s tried, struggled and ended up frustrated! With metallic paint, 19s and DCC it’s proving to be very difficult.
Its the deposit he's missing out on.... he's putting down the minimum, which boosts the monthlies and attracts a crap load of interest, which adds to the monthlies even more.
Need to increase the deposit or find an OEM offering a cheaper interest rate (or both!)
Yeah I get that but suppose his train of thought is that he can get a Merc for lower payments than the gti with minimal money in. More premium manufacturer in his eyes.
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I know it's PCH and not PCP, but surely something like this has got to be better than forking out thousands in interest over 4 years? It's a only a 3 year commitment instead of 4 and you also get your vehicle tax and breakdown cover paid too!! And no worries about having to pay to fix it if it breaks in the final year. 🤷♂️
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/vertu-lease-cars/volkswagen/golf/630510154/
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I saw a cheap deal on the I30N today.... 0%... much cheapness.... right up until you realise they wanted ~9000 quid deposit and it was 2 years only. Move the sliders around and it attracted interest charges.
A bit weird for a PCP offer I thought.
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I know it's PCH and not PCP, but surely something like this has got to be better than forking out thousands in interest over 4 years? It's a only a 3 year commitment instead of 4 and you also get your vehicle tax and breakdown cover paid too!! And no worries about having to pay to fix it if it breaks in the final year. 🤷♂️
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/vertu-lease-cars/volkswagen/golf/630510154/
That is a basic car though so not comparable unfortunately if I’m reading it right. Every time I’ve looked a pch the options have added quite a lot to the monthlies.
The quote on the Merc is PCH (probably should have mentioned!) with servicing etc all included.
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I know it's PCH and not PCP, but surely something like this has got to be better than forking out thousands in interest over 4 years? It's a only a 3 year commitment instead of 4 and you also get your vehicle tax and breakdown cover paid too!! And no worries about having to pay to fix it if it breaks in the final year. 🤷♂️
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/vertu-lease-cars/volkswagen/golf/630510154/
That is a basic car though so not comparable unfortunately if I’m reading it right. Every time I’ve looked a pch the options have added quite a lot to the monthlies.
The quote on the Merc is PCH (probably should have mentioned!) with servicing etc all included.
Yeah it's a standard car. But adding 19's and DCC is going to add about £41 month over 3 years or £31 month over 4 years. So £442 × 36 months or £409 x 48 months. Both 1 month down. Obviously maintenance would be extra, which I suppose adds some appeal to the Merc deal.
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I know it's PCH and not PCP, but surely something like this has got to be better than forking out thousands in interest over 4 years? It's a only a 3 year commitment instead of 4 and you also get your vehicle tax and breakdown cover paid too!! And no worries about having to pay to fix it if it breaks in the final year. 🤷♂️
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/vertu-lease-cars/volkswagen/golf/630510154/
That is a basic car though so not comparable unfortunately if I’m reading it right. Every time I’ve looked a pch the options have added quite a lot to the monthlies.
The quote on the Merc is PCH (probably should have mentioned!) with servicing etc all included.
Yeah it's a standard car. But adding 19's and DCC is going to add about £41 month over 3 years or £31 month over 4 years. So £442 × 36 months or £409 x 48 months. Both 1 month down. Obviously maintenance would be extra, which I suppose adds some appeal to the Merc deal.
I’ve looked at a few similar deals and found the options to add around £50pm over 4 years but I suppose it’s not comparable to compare at PCH quote to a VW PCP quote either really.
Anyway, bottom line is he can get a 300bhp awd hatch for the similar monthlies to that of a Golf Gti with £5k off. Like others have said I think it’s the apr which damages the gti quotes so much. Most people won’t look into desks with the detail that folks do on here. They look at the monthly and think why buy a VW when I can have a Mercedes?
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I know it's PCH and not PCP, but surely something like this has got to be better than forking out thousands in interest over 4 years? It's a only a 3 year commitment instead of 4 and you also get your vehicle tax and breakdown cover paid too!! And no worries about having to pay to fix it if it breaks in the final year. 🤷♂️
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/vertu-lease-cars/volkswagen/golf/630510154/
That is a basic car though so not comparable unfortunately if I’m reading it right. Every time I’ve looked a pch the options have added quite a lot to the monthlies.
The quote on the Merc is PCH (probably should have mentioned!) with servicing etc all included.
Yeah it's a standard car. But adding 19's and DCC is going to add about £41 month over 3 years or £31 month over 4 years. So £442 × 36 months or £409 x 48 months. Both 1 month down. Obviously maintenance would be extra, which I suppose adds some appeal to the Merc deal.
I’ve looked at a few similar deals and found the options to add around £50pm over 4 years but I suppose it’s not comparable to compare at PCH quote to a VW PCP quote either really.
Anyway, bottom line is he can get a 300bhp awd hatch for the similar monthlies to that of a Golf Gti with £5k off. Like others have said I think it’s the apr which damages the gti quotes so much. Most people won’t look into desks with the detail that folks do on here. They look at the monthly and think why buy a VW when I can have a Mercedes?
It would be interesting so compare that Merc on PCP though to the GTi quotes. It's a £42k motor with no more discount than a GTi and the PCP rate is the same. I'd bet it's way more than the GTi on PCP.
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I know it's PCH and not PCP, but surely something like this has got to be better than forking out thousands in interest over 4 years? It's a only a 3 year commitment instead of 4 and you also get your vehicle tax and breakdown cover paid too!! And no worries about having to pay to fix it if it breaks in the final year. 🤷♂️
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/vertu-lease-cars/volkswagen/golf/630510154/
That is a basic car though so not comparable unfortunately if I’m reading it right. Every time I’ve looked a pch the options have added quite a lot to the monthlies.
The quote on the Merc is PCH (probably should have mentioned!) with servicing etc all included.
Yeah it's a standard car. But adding 19's and DCC is going to add about £41 month over 3 years or £31 month over 4 years. So £442 × 36 months or £409 x 48 months. Both 1 month down. Obviously maintenance would be extra, which I suppose adds some appeal to the Merc deal.
I’ve looked at a few similar deals and found the options to add around £50pm over 4 years but I suppose it’s not comparable to compare at PCH quote to a VW PCP quote either really.
Anyway, bottom line is he can get a 300bhp awd hatch for the similar monthlies to that of a Golf Gti with £5k off. Like others have said I think it’s the apr which damages the gti quotes so much. Most people won’t look into desks with the detail that folks do on here. They look at the monthly and think why buy a VW when I can have a Mercedes?
It would be interesting so compare that Merc on PCP though to the GTi quotes. It's a £42k motor with no more discount than a GTi and the PCP rate is the same. I'd bet it's way more than the GTi on PCP.
I totally agree. It’d be crazy on PCP.
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The merc doesn't have nineteens, dcc or metallic paint for that price either though. I suspect there is lot of other things it doesn't have either. Without those things, a gti is cheaper than the merc on pch...
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The merc doesn't have nineteens, dcc or metallic paint for that price either though. I suspect there is lot of other things it doesn't have either. Without those things, a gti is cheaper than the merc on pch...
That’s the thing, it does have their version of DCC,19s, metallic paint, privacy glass etc. The list is pretty long from the spec sheet that he’s shared with me.
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My brother has finally had a decent PCH offer. £440pm with metallic paint, dcc and 19s. £440 in with 10k miles per year.
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3 years or 4?
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3 years or 4?
3 years.
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Not going to say that's an amazing deal, but equally it's not too bad. Probably about as good as you're likely to get in the current climate.
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Not going to say that's an amazing deal, but equally it's not too bad. Probably about as good as you're likely to get in the current climate.
Yeah I agree. Good for current times. Over £400pm for a gti still blows my mind.
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What blows my mind, is that metallic paint, specced by nearly everyone is an extra £625. Yet a heated steering wheel, which in a quarter of a century of driving i've never really missed, is standard.
SEAT have it right. Every colour costs an extra £0 :whistle:
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What blows my mind, is that metallic paint, specced by nearly everyone is an extra £625. Yet a heated steering wheel, which in a quarter of a century of driving i've never really missed, is standard.
SEAT have it right. Every colour costs an extra £0 :whistle:
It’s odd for sure. There’s no way I’d even think about adding a heated steering wheel. Think it’s a bizarre thing to have on car anyway.
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It’s odd for sure. There’s no way I’d even think about adding a heated steering wheel. Think it’s a bizarre thing to have on car anyway.
Had them on hire cars, novelty that wears off. I usually just point the blowers at my hands if they’re cold. Money in the bank :grin:
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My brother ordered the Gti over the A35 to my immense surprise today!
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Presumably the 3 year PCH deal? If it's a factory order does he have a lead time?
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Yeah 3 years. He’s been told 14 weeks until delivery as they factor in the Christmas factory shut down.
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I believe cars delivered to customers before the end of March are price protected.
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I believe cars delivered to customers before the end of March are price protected.
Although historically VW cars have been price protected once ordered, would that be the case as far as import tariffs are concerned in the event of a no deal outcome to Brexit negotiations? Would vehicle manufacturers absorb import tariffs on cars ordered before 31/12/2020 but not delivered until 2021?
Hopefully the T’s & C’s on new vehicle order forms signed by customers clarify VW’s stance on this.
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I believe cars delivered to customers before the end of March are price protected.
Although historically VW cars have been price protected once ordered, would that be the case as far as import tariffs are concerned in the event of a no deal outcome to Brexit negotiations? Would vehicle manufacturers absorb import tariffs on cars ordered before 31/12/2020 but not delivered until 2021?
Hopefully the T’s & C’s on new vehicle order forms signed by customers clarify VW’s stance on this.
From the VW UK website
Peace of mind with Volkswagen Price Protection
we guarantee not to pass on any post-Brexit tariffs.*
*We guarantee not to pass on any post-Brexit tariffs to orders placed with your Retailer before 17.30 on 2 December 2020. Retail customers only. Excludes Motability. Subject to taking delivery on the date communicated by the Retailer. Talk to your Retailer for full details. Final price is at the discretion of your Retailer.
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Evening, so I ordered a GTI + DCC + Dolphin grey on a VW business lease. Now have confirmed delivery February 21 but I’ve been pushing on the lease price, finally got it down to £405/month 15k mileage/yr. Happy now, just thought I’d Chuck that into the pricing mix.
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I believe cars delivered to customers before the end of March are price protected.
Although historically VW cars have been price protected once ordered, would that be the case as far as import tariffs are concerned in the event of a no deal outcome to Brexit negotiations? Would vehicle manufacturers absorb import tariffs on cars ordered before 31/12/2020 but not delivered until 2021?
Hopefully the T’s & C’s on new vehicle order forms signed by customers clarify VW’s stance on this.
From the VW UK website
Peace of mind with Volkswagen Price Protection
we guarantee not to pass on any post-Brexit tariffs.*
*We guarantee not to pass on any post-Brexit tariffs to orders placed with your Retailer before 17.30 on 2 December 2020. Retail customers only. Excludes Motability. Subject to taking delivery on the date communicated by the Retailer. Talk to your Retailer for full details. Final price is at the discretion of your Retailer.
There is a few important terms that are not mentioned online.
One important thing is that you must take delivery of the car within 10 days of it arriving at the supplying retailer so if it arrives on the 17th of February you must take delivery by the 27th leaving it on a 70 plate rather than 21 plate.
Retail orders only means anyone on contract hire is not protected against any possible brexit price increase.
Retail ordes mean customer purchasing outright, PCP or Hire purchase.
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Is there a rough way to work out monthly depreciation for a three year old MK7.5 towards four years. I’m trying to decide if waiting a year won’t matter much or if after three years the value drops more rapidly? Is there a figure I can use?
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Used car prices right now are at an all time high if you are thinking of changing I would urge you to do it now.
Not just because I work at a dealership and it’s our job to sell cars but because as people will know on here I am honest and know the bubble will burst and used car are going to start to drop.
A car out of warranty is worth clearly less to any customer whether that be private sale or a garage in part exchange.
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https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/used-car-demand-remains-exceptionally-high-but-prices-begin-to-soften/208664
And
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/6617dc19-6302-42b6-9c98-94faecb0dd8c
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I believe cars delivered to customers before the end of March are price protected.
Although historically VW cars have been price protected once ordered, would that be the case as far as import tariffs are concerned in the event of a no deal outcome to Brexit negotiations? Would vehicle manufacturers absorb import tariffs on cars ordered before 31/12/2020 but not delivered until 2021?
Hopefully the T’s & C’s on new vehicle order forms signed by customers clarify VW’s stance on this.
From the VW UK website
Peace of mind with Volkswagen Price Protection
we guarantee not to pass on any post-Brexit tariffs.*
*We guarantee not to pass on any post-Brexit tariffs to orders placed with your Retailer before 17.30 on 2 December 2020. Retail customers only. Excludes Motability. Subject to taking delivery on the date communicated by the Retailer. Talk to your Retailer for full details. Final price is at the discretion of your Retailer.
There is a few important terms that are not mentioned online.
One important thing is that you must take delivery of the car within 10 days of it arriving at the supplying retailer so if it arrives on the 17th of February you must take delivery by the 27th leaving it on a 70 plate rather than 21 plate.
Retail orders only means anyone on contract hire is not protected against any possible brexit price increase.
Retail ordes mean customer purchasing outright, PCP or Hire purchase.
Well it also states this under fleet
Peace of mind with Volkswagen Price Protection
we guarantee not to pass on any post-Brexit tariffs.*
*We guarantee not to pass on any post-Brexit tariffs to orders placed before 17.30 on 2 December 2020. Corporate customers only. Excludes Motability. For deliveries before 31 March 2021. Talk to your Retailer or fleet business centre for full details.
Are PCH customers retail or fleet? Or are they just not valued by VW?
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Pch is someone's Fleet. You aren't the vw customer, the lease company is.
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Unless they have changed there stance we were originally communicated this on the 6th of November and it was mentioned only retail sales were protected.
Which seemed very unfair and opened a huge can of worms with our fleet operation....
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We all appreciate there is uncertainty at the moment. But it's patently unfair to make promises to some customers and not to others without explaining it, particularly as the customer doesn't really have much control over how long it takes VW to supply them with a car.
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A pch quote though shouldn't change... Any hit should be on the fleet operator not the renter. Your lease quote was in no way directly a direct cost of the purchase. If you have ink on paper, it won't change AFAIK.
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VW PCH deals are with VW Financial Services, same as PCP's.
Many of the lease companies that people mention aren't actually lease companies in the sense of being fleet operators, they are merely brokers working for a fee.
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A few cars have started to come through on AT with the 19s. They make such a difference imo. I’d have to have these.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzyR38xH/AFD43020-076-D-444-E-8607-3-B25-BECCFCD5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3NKvtQ8X/36-A6-E285-6-E7-F-4360-927-D-245-E4-AA97363.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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A few cars have started to come through on AT with the 19s. They make such a difference imo. I’d have to have these.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzyR38xH/AFD43020-076-D-444-E-8607-3-B25-BECCFCD5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3NKvtQ8X/36-A6-E285-6-E7-F-4360-927-D-245-E4-AA97363.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
that's not the most flattering angle for a picture!
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A few cars have started to come through on AT with the 19s. They make such a difference imo. I’d have to have these.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzyR38xH/AFD43020-076-D-444-E-8607-3-B25-BECCFCD5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3NKvtQ8X/36-A6-E285-6-E7-F-4360-927-D-245-E4-AA97363.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
that's not the most flattering angle for a picture!
Agreed. Turning 180° to the right would help enormously :grin:
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I've got some quotes back on my chosen spec and I've discovered on PCP that nineteens and dcc add nothing to the gfv.
So basically don't imagine you are making your car more saleable in the future with them.
Would be more cost effective to swap the oem eighteens for something third party and keep the swastikas in the garage for refitting later.
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I was also going to ask if anyone had an opinion on how vw shape their deposit contributions... Is it likely to go down or up in January?
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Not too sure about deposit contributions but from what I remember, the contribution was pretty stable on the 7.5 for a long period of time.
I think the days of Vw not offering a contribution are a thing of the past now. Please don’t quote me in 6 months though!
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I'm not sure even dealers know what will happen in the next quarter, and even if they did i'm not sure they'd tell you (unless the deal was expected to be worse than the current one).
I'm sure there'll be a deposit contribution of some sort, except in the unlikely event that they bring back 0% finance.
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I'll guess I'll find out what is happening as I can't order until January anyway :-/
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So it looks like VW have dropped their interest rate slightly to 4.9% and the £1,250 deposit contribution is still there. 👍
Looks like the GFV's might be slightly lower though :undecided:
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Lol swings and roundabouts, always is. Total amount payable in charges to vwfs remain.
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I just got a 2021 quote back.
APR is down
Service pack price is up (from 199 to 269)
GFV is flat
Interesting point here.... a bog standard GTI DSG in moonstone has the same GFV as one with ~2.5k of options - thats ~60 quid a month you are never getting back.
Moral of the story, options are poor value :-/
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If options add nothing to GFV, surely that's another reason to go PCH over PCP?
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Options are very poor value, the 128ti will be exactly the same.
My advice would only ever get things you’ll get value for money from yourself unless you’re buying a limited production enthusiast special model where certain options will add a fair bit of value so long as you sell the car through more specialised channels. Main dealers and the general trade by and large won’t give you much, if anything, back on the thousands you’ve spent on luxuries. Even private buyers want something for nothing much of the time.
Some things will add part-exchange value on certain cars. Pretorias made a significant difference to mk7 R retained values but probably didn’t affect the GFV much.
PCP’s are becoming more like general leases for that sort of thing and the market is very unpredictable right now for obvious reasons.
There aren’t any options on a mk8 GTI I’d consider remotely essential, although if you drive on unfamiliar roads often then the HUD would be quite useful (but far from essential).
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If options add nothing to GFV, surely that's another reason to go PCH over PCP?
PCH wouldn't be any different to PCP on options - its just not as starkly obvious with PCH because you don't see the residual value, you just see the monthlies -although you could work it out - how much does my 24 month lease go up by each month if I add £1000 of options - chance are its 41 quid!
Exonian, I know the 128ti would be the same....
In the past I've carefully looked at options to see what does and doesn't have any residual value. Most options don't but some do.
The BMW dealer I am dealing with helpfully showed me which ones have any residual value.... its these:
Leather Seats
Panoramic Sunroof
Head Up Display
HK Sound
Live Cockpit Pro
Comfort Package 2
128ti Pro Package
Technology Package
In my Golf spec I was talking about above, it has HK and HUD (plus about another 4 things). Not one of them budged the GFV a penny.
I know GFV isn't the forecourt price for a car, its only roughly a trade value but none the less.... :cry:
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Its the same here in Ireland. Options add zero to the GFV, they never have added anything. "DSG" is the only outlier, a car equipped with DSG does have a higher GFV, its considered a different model than the manual car in the finance calculator side of things.
My experience with options is just as Exonian says, dealers don't care when you bring the car back as a trade in. They'll value it solely on mileage/year/general condition relative to a standard non-optioned car.
Some options however make the car a bit more desirable, more forecourt appeal, it might sell quicker than a standard car, but not for much more money. E.g. I reckon a car with a pano-roof is more appealing in the used market than a car with DCC. The roof has showroom appeal, DCC is "invisible" but arguably more useful to those in the know.
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If options add nothing to GFV, surely that's another reason to go PCH over PCP?
PCH wouldn't be any different to PCP on options - its just not as starkly obvious with PCH because you don't see the residual value, you just see the monthlies -although you could work it out - how much does my 24 month lease go up by each month if I add £1000 of options - chance are its 41 quid!
Yeah I know. What I meant was that PCH is usually cheaper than PCP to start with. If there is no pay back on the options, then you're paying 4.9% interest on them besides the price of the car. Making it even more expensive than PCH.
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Here’s the first photo I’ve seen of a GTI on the Estoril wheels which are a factory option here in Ireland. I think they look great!
(https://i.ibb.co/QKGLSNr/D892-D1-D9-F226-4-EFB-A869-AE13-B7-BE8-F9-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/71FPMW2)
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Does look great on those alloys. :cool:
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Much nicer than what we get :cry:
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Much nicer than what we get :cry:
We get the same ugly standard wheels as you guys and the Adelaides are also an option. The Estorils above are about €100 extra over the Adelaides. Worth it imo!
There’s also a black Estoril wheel, might be good if you fancy avoiding diamond cut.
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Yeah the black ones are really nice. I'd go for those in a heartbeat.
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I have a GTI on order with a set of the Estorils so delighted to see them above, think I made the right choice!
Was torn between the diamond cut and the black but went with the diamond cut in the end.
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I have a GTI on order with a set of the Estorils so delighted to see them above, think I made the right choice!
Was torn between the diamond cut and the black but went with the diamond cut in the end.
Nice!
I’m sure you’re aware of the VRT / road tax implications with the 19’s on the standard (non Clubsport) GTI?
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You guys know the Estorils have the "R" logo on the rim? I've seen them in person on a Dolphin Grey and while they look great, the "R" logo on a GTI would kill me!
Each to their own but I actually LIKE the standard 18's!! I like the standard 18's which I have on my Mk7.5 GTI and I'd go as far to say that I'd spend the money on the H/K sound system than any of the 19" wheel options as I'd get more joy from it.
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I think I could live with a stray R logo on them as them suit the car so much more than the other alloy choices imo. Wheels, like colour, are a very personal choice and really make or break a car for me.
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Yeah I know about the R logo alright but its pretty small and I could live with that any day. I could not live with those standard rims, they would a be a deal breaker for me. The Adelaides are much better but I think the Estorils are far and away the nicest.
I can see Pretoria's reappearing in the options too at some stage and if those were an option I'd choose them without hesitation and they're also technically an R wheel :smiley:
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I have a GTI on order with a set of the Estorils so delighted to see them above, think I made the right choice!
Was torn between the diamond cut and the black but went with the diamond cut in the end.
Nice!
I’m sure you’re aware of the VRT / road tax implications with the 19’s on the standard (non Clubsport) GTI?
Yeah the VRT is a disaster but the standard alloys are so bad I’d rather put up with the VRT then look at them every day. Looked at the Clubsport but it was too much for me I think and even at that I was restricted with options as that’s easily tipped into the 31% too. I was going for the manual so at least there was a €7k jump to the CS, the DSG GTI makes no sense versus the CS.
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but where is the R logo on the Estorils?
As said above, the alloys are a deal breaker for me too, the standard are awful, Adelaides are OK but I think the Estorils are a standout. The Estorils will be probably be fairly uncommon on a GTI though I’d say.
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The Clubsport doesn't tip into the 31% bracket at all, even if you fully option it up. That's the bizarre thing. So if you wanted a DSG car and you wanted the 19's, the CS is the only one that makes sense as you don't hit the VRT penalty whereas you do on the standard car.
R Logo is on the edge of the rim, its fairly discrete. You can see it on the image of the wheel in the product guide.
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but where is the R logo on the Estorils?
As said above, the alloys are a deal breaker for me too, the standard are awful, Adelaides are OK but I think the Estorils are a standout. The Estorils will be probably be fairly uncommon on a GTI though I’d say.
(https://i.postimg.cc/jdDyJr11/Screenshot-20210106-013628-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGWs9SM3)
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2DbcXG5/Screenshot-20210106-013548-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t797Xws9)
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I think the Estorils look so good but just doesn't make sense why they would put an "R" emblem on them.
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The Clubsport doesn't tip into the 31% bracket at all, even if you fully option it up. That's the bizarre thing. So if you wanted a DSG car and you wanted the 19's, the CS is the only one that makes sense as you don't hit the VRT penalty whereas you do on the standard car.
R Logo is on the edge of the rim, its fairly discrete. You can see it on the image of the wheel in the product guide.
The alloys upgrade and DCC bring the CS to 170 but seems if you add in 2 of the Sunroof, H/K or Leather it brings it to 171.
It’s all a bit bizarre really.
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Hand noticed the R logo at all, thanks!
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The Clubsport doesn't tip into the 31% bracket at all, even if you fully option it up. That's the bizarre thing. So if you wanted a DSG car and you wanted the 19's, the CS is the only one that makes sense as you don't hit the VRT penalty whereas you do on the standard car.
R Logo is on the edge of the rim, its fairly discrete. You can see it on the image of the wheel in the product guide.
The alloys upgrade and DCC bring the CS to 170 but seems if you add in 2 of the Sunroof, H/K or Leather it brings it to 171.
It’s all a bit bizarre really.
Are you sure about that? I had confirmation from dealer (via VW Ireland) that the CS tops out at 170g, no matter how it's spec'd. I wouldn't trust the online configurator thats for sure... it currently has the car up at ~€80k - something not right there!
I'd not be surprised if the sunroof affected Co2 as it would add weight, but HK audio or leather seems very odd.
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WLTP is meant to cover every single option combo available...
And yes leather adds weight and so does the HK sub...
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The Clubsport doesn't tip into the 31% bracket at all, even if you fully option it up. That's the bizarre thing. So if you wanted a DSG car and you wanted the 19's, the CS is the only one that makes sense as you don't hit the VRT penalty whereas you do on the standard car.
R Logo is on the edge of the rim, its fairly discrete. You can see it on the image of the wheel in the product guide.
The alloys upgrade and DCC bring the CS to 170 but seems if you add in 2 of the Sunroof, H/K or Leather it brings it to 171.
It’s all a bit bizarre really.
Are you sure about that? I had confirmation from dealer (via VW Ireland) that the CS tops out at 170g, no matter how it's spec'd. I wouldn't trust the online configurator thats for sure... it currently has the car up at ~€80k - something not right there!
I'd not be surprised if the sunroof affected Co2 as it would add weight, but HK audio or leather seems very odd.
Hmm yes I was basing my spec on the configurator — With my spec in the Clubsport I hit 171g but on the regular I hit 173g. Maybe I should confirm that with the dealer as if that is wrong I may need to reconsider.
That configurator is a disaster.
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Just had a look there, the Irish brochure tech specs for the CS say the CO2 range is from 168-171g while the UK brochure gives a range of 167-170g. Oddly though the front of the Irish price list then has a starting rate of 167g...
The mind boggles...
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So after a test drive in a new GTI last week, my order is gone in for Clubsport in Moonstone with winter pack, reverse camera and H/K audio.
I'm keeping the unpopular wheels :whistle: as I don't mind them and they won't add to the value come trade in.
Expect it to be ready in March :grin:
I'm taking the step into PCP for the first time. While I never thought PCP would be a product I'd ever go for I actually think VW do it well.
The way I understand it is that they aim for you to have a reasonable residual at the end to role over the next time whereas when I enquired about PCP through BMW they said I'd have no equity come end of term so I'd have to save my next deposit while making the PCP payments.
I thought the GTI was great on test drive apart from the buttonless design which is fiddley but has been covered enough at this stage. It'll be a matter of just getting used to it.
If you're going PCP on a DSG GTI, the Clubsport is the only sensible option as the repayments are only marginally higher than the GTI due to the higher GMFV of the Clubsport.
So roll on March :cool:
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So after a test drive in a new GTI last week, my order is gone in for Clubsport in Moonstone with winter pack, reverse camera and H/K audio.
I'm keeping the unpopular wheels :whistle: as I don't mind them and they won't add to the value come trade in.
Expect it to be ready in March :grin:
I'm taking the step into PCP for the first time. While I never thought PCP would be a product I'd ever go for I actually think VW do it well.
The way I understand it is that they aim for you to have a reasonable residual at the end to role over the next time whereas when I enquired about PCP through BMW they said I'd have no equity come end of term so I'd have to save my next deposit while making the PCP payments.
I thought the GTI was great on test drive apart from the buttonless design which is fiddley but has been covered enough at this stage. It'll be a matter of just getting used to it.
If you're going PCP on a DSG GTI, the Clubsport is the only sensible option as the repayments are only marginally higher than the GTI due to the higher GMFV of the Clubsport.
So roll on March :cool:
Nice one! Are you dealing with one of the dealers in Dublin? Did you trade the MK7.5?
I came very close to pulling the trigger myself before Christmas but I parked the idea in the short term as I've other priorities pulling out of my wallet right now. I hope to revisit that plan though and will perhaps order one later, in the next few months!
Picking a colour is the hard part...
You will definitely have reasonable equity in the car after 3 years. The GFMV is about 22k - I would expect a 3 year old CS to be worth in excess of 30k on a trade in, so at least 8k equity, maybe a bit more. I did a PCP on a Golf R a few years ago and came out of it with healthy equity. Unfortunately I put that equity into a BMW :angry:
P.S. I think I recognise your posts from boards.ie also ;)
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Yea Joe, trading into Joe Duffy Dublin North.
I might still throw it up on DoneDeal closer the time and see if I get a bit more for it but happy with the trade regardless.
They had a few GTI's over there. Dolphin, Kings Red and Moonstone.
I wasn't overly impressed with the KR but I was never a fan of the Tornado either so that's just me.
The Dolphin Grey looks great on the GTI but the Clubsport accents don't stand out as much judging by the pics and videos online.
I wasn't initially into the Moonstone in the GTI but the Clubsport accents really pop in this colour.
There are so many good colours to choose from though, the whites would look great, reflex silver too!! It wasn't an easy decision but I did have to choose one and Moonstone it is!!
Yea I'm hoping that it'll be exactly like what you're saying. 8-10k equity all going well.
Did you do PCP with BMW? If so, was that your experience, that you end up with nothing to roll over?
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Yea Joe, trading into Joe Duffy Dublin North.
I might still throw it up on DoneDeal closer the time and see if I get a bit more for it but happy with the trade regardless.
They had a few GTI's over there. Dolphin, Kings Red and Moonstone.
I wasn't overly impressed with the KR but I was never a fan of the Tornado either so that's just me.
The Dolphin Grey looks great on the GTI but the Clubsport accents don't stand out as much judging by the pics and videos online.
I wasn't initially into the Moonstone in the GTI but the Clubsport accents really pop in this colour.
There are so many good colours to choose from though, the whites would look great, reflex silver too!! It wasn't an easy decision but I did have to choose one and Moonstone it is!!
Yea I'm hoping that it'll be exactly like what you're saying. 8-10k equity all going well.
Did you do PCP with BMW? If so, was that your experience, that you end up with nothing to roll over?
I'm not that keen on KR either. It doesn't look like a "sporty" colour to me, a bit too Burgundy/wine! More suited to a Passat or the likes imo. I'd say when it comes to it I'd probably go for one of the greys or white. My BMW was grey (a kinda flat, primer looking grey like moonstone actually), grey always looks smart.
Yeah so 3 years ago I sold my R back to VW in a rush, got a nice chunk of equity out of it and used that equity for a deposit on a (demo) BMW 420d. PCP again, but the APR was higher (4.9% I think).
I never warmed to the car too much... just missed the hot hatch driving experience. And last September I decided to cut my losses. Was barely using it due to working from home. I sold the car and when I had the finance cleared I only had about 3.5k equity. So not quite zero equity, but nowhere near as good as the equity I had with the Golf.
I think VW structure the PCP deals far more favourably.
I'd love to see the GTI in the metal in a couple of different colours. Not easy with this Covid thing never going away...
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The KR doesn't look bad by any means but yea, maybe "not that sporty" is the right way to put it. I know some people here have ordered it so I wouldn't like to offend anyone on their choices but as will be dually noted, my choice of wheels is far from popular so each to their own!! :grin:
I was tempted to consider the BMW 330e as a neighbor has one and looks great but having come from a long line of saloons, last one being an A7, I've decided to stick with the hot hatch till family responsibilities dictate otherwise.
I feel VW are more transparent with what you get for your money, even to the extent of informing you that the majority of the options list will have very little impact on future trade in value. They don't lead you into ticking all the boxes and thinking you'll get your money back for them.
We've all had enough of Covid at this stage!! It's ruining everything!! I do consider myself lucky and don't take it for granted that I'm in a position to change car during all of this though.
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The KR doesn't look bad by any means but yea, maybe "not that sporty" is the right way to put it. I know some people here have ordered it so I wouldn't like to offend anyone on their choices but as will be dually noted, my choice of wheels is far from popular so each to their own!! :grin:
I was tempted to consider the BMW 330e as a neighbor has one and looks great but having come from a long line of saloons, last one being an A7, I've decided to stick with the hot hatch till family responsibilities dictate otherwise.
I feel VW are more transparent with what you get for your money, even to the extent of informing you that the majority of the options list will have very little impact on future trade in value. They don't lead you into ticking all the boxes and thinking you'll get your money back for them.
We've all had enough of Covid at this stage!! It's ruining everything!! I do consider myself lucky and don't take it for granted that I'm in a position to change car during all of this though.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the standard wheels, but you're completely right too in concluding that you'll never get your money back on upgrading them. None of the options are worth anything come trade in time. However the right options certainly make the car a bit more desirable or make a dealer more eager to deal with you... e.g. when I was looking to offload my R, the first thing dealers asked me was did it have the Pretoria wheels (yes) or the Pano roof (no!).
You could always put a nice set of Pretoria's on your new CS later on... I think a set of prets would look brilliant on the CS, its something I'd consider doing.
I couldn't bring myself to buy another BMW saloon... lovely cars and all that, but the BMW diesel saloon ownership experience killed my enthusiasm for cars.
Re Covid, one thing thats holding me back from ordering the CS is - do I actually need a car? I'm working from home and probably will be for most/all of this year!
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New member here but no stranger to VW having owned a GTI 7 > R7.5.
Currently have a Polo GTI but have decided to sell to free up funds and dive into PCP for the 1st time.
After a GTI CS in silver. Would have liked 19s and rear camera but DTD quoted 19 week lead time so it will have to be a stock one in silver.
Not ordered yet, still trying to find the cheapest PCP deal for my requirements. 3K deposit, 3 year term (< £400 /month). GFV based on my requirements comes in at 18.6k. DTD is winning at the moment...
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Vwfs is the same everywhere. You just need to hunt the lowest cash price but bear in mind dealer stock is a rare thing, you might be best off just taking the deal on the table if you don't want to wait for a factory build. The stock won't last long.
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New member here but no stranger to VW having owned a GTI 7 > R7.5.
Currently have a Polo GTI but have decided to sell to free up funds and dive into PCP for the 1st time.
After a GTI CS in silver. Would have liked 19s and rear camera but DTD quoted 19 week lead time so it will have to be a stock one in silver.
Not ordered yet, still trying to find the cheapest PCP deal for my requirements. 3K deposit, 3 year term (< £400 /month). GFV based on my requirements comes in at 18.6k. DTD is winning at the moment...
Hello and welcome. :smiley:
I recently did something similar, taking a stock car for my first ever PCP to free up cash for my son (house deposit for him).
Have a word with evo1986 on here as he had a demo plus two stock cars delivered and also works for a large retailer group so might be able to lay his hands on more.
His headline price might not get to DTD level but if you have a VW part-ex the overall costs might be similar, it’s worked for me in the past.
It’s easy to add alloy wheels afterwards, the rear camera will also probably be a fairly easy retrofit once we know what parts are needed (being as the car is basically a mk7 it shouldn’t be too terrible a job). I’d be quite keen on something like a Helix sub too which may or may not be possible using mk7 parts.
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Yes will probably pull the trigger soon on the DTD deal.
3k upfront, 407 monthly (35) plus 18607 GFV which I do intend to take up.
Have listed my polo GTI on Motorway, having sold my R via them previously and got a reasonable price. Hopefully it will be another smooth experience this time round.
Regarding my other options, I would probably add the adelaides at a later date and leave out the camera (never had it on any of my previous VWs anyway :smiley:)
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I’ve had a RVC on a few cars now. Useful at times. Was a very cheap option on my 2013 GTI at £150 and standard on my TCR.
The mk8 has a larger and higher screen so that would make a big difference.
My CS is vanilla spec and as it’s on PCP I won’t bother changing anything that can’t be quickly unbolted at the end of term.
One side benefit of adding your own wheels is you get to choose what tyres rather than compromising.
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I’ve had a RVC on a few cars now. Useful at times. Was a very cheap option on my 2013 GTI at £150 and standard on my TCR.
The mk8 has a larger and higher screen so that would make a big difference.
My CS is vanilla spec and as it’s on PCP I won’t bother changing anything that can’t be quickly unbolted at the end of term.
One side benefit of adding your own wheels is you get to choose what tyres rather than compromising.
Tis useful, my wife has it on her a-class and I do like it. Oh well..
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Does the Mk8 have a soundaktor producing the fake engine noise in the cabin?
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Does the Mk8 have a soundaktor producing the fake engine noise in the cabin?
It has something - whether its the Mk7 style mechanical buzzing thing or an audio track through the speakers, I don't know.
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There’s still a menu option to put the sound into Eco in individual mode.
It sounded less like a Subaru flat four with a bad misfire and more like an actual engine noise on my shortish drive home.
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Not sure if previously posted, but the 19" Estoril wheels have appeared on the configurator. (GTI only, not CS)
No price and for some reason you have to add 17" Richmonds?
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There’s still a menu option to put the sound into Eco in individual mode.
It sounded less like a Subaru flat four with a bad misfire and more like an actual engine noise on my shortish drive home.
I tried all the different engine noise settings during my test drive and didn't seem to make any difference..... I think I need another test drive anyway as first one was truncated. Looks like I might have a long wait for that though.
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Been reading a thread on the Mk 7 board re the winter pack & heated windscreen. From the configurator for the Mk 8, it seems that a heated windscreen isn't an option. Is that right?
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Been reading a thread on the Mk 7 board re the winter pack & heated windscreen. From the configurator for the Mk 8, it seems that a heated windscreen isn't an option. Is that right?
Based on what I’ve read on this forum and other forums, that would appear to be the case.
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Its not in the brochure as an option either.
Suspect a rationalisation of options because of WLTP is the cause (under WLTP you have to test every option combo... which means after you have say 12 options aleady, adding number 13 means hundreds of extrra tests which take time and money - little point if historical data shows you only ever sold a few hundred of the option previously).
On top of WLTP there is also supply chain rationalisation, there is a cost for having the supply contract in place, needing to allocate on hand stock in your factory and extra complexity in your picking for builds in a just in time system.
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It's not currently an option on the Mk8, but it is an option on the Octavia vRS, but only as part of the winter pack.
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Just seen this pic on the internet of the mk8 GTI with estoril wheels on the kings red.
These wheels just look brilliant on GTI, looks amazing with the red paint
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Make sure you've seen King's Red with your own eyes is my advice...
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Make sure you've seen King's Red with your own eyes is my advice...
Haven’t seen it in the flesh yet, what is it like in your option?
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Not as nice as I thought it would be. It's sort of metallic burgundy, the sort of colour popular with the over seventies. Also the red gti accents are a different red... Looks... Less premium and not a patch on tornado red.
Just my opinion... You really do need to see it before ordering I suggest. Prior to seeing it I wanted it. It's an expensive colour too.
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Not as nice as I thought it would be. It's sort of metallic burgundy, the sort of colour popular with the over seventies. Also the red gti accents are a different red... Looks... Less premium and not a patch on tornado red.
Just my opinion... You really do need to see it before ordering I suggest. Prior to seeing it I wanted it. It's an expensive colour too.
Thanks for your option, will see it in person as am changing next year to the mk8 GTI, and it was between the kings red and the dolphin Grey.
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I've seen a KR GTI in the flesh and it looks nothing like that pic. I'm no photography expert but I believe you can do wonderful things with filters and the like.
The KR motor I saw looked understated. It's more of a dark red, not quite burgundy but moving that way. It's nothing like TR. I quite like KR but then I prefer 'under the radar' type colours.
Always a good idea to see colours in the flesh before ordering if you can.
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A bit like Lapiz Blue, KR is very light dependant.
The first Mk8 GTI’s I saw in the flesh (in a dealership parking area) were two standard ones, both of which made me realise the car was far better looking in the flesh than in any photo. One was silver which people had been foaming at the mouth with excitement about yet it left me a bit underwhelmed. One was Atlantic(?) Blue which I’m not really a lover of at the best of times.
Then I spotted a third tucked away. This car was Kings Red and had a fair bit more spec on it including 19’s and I think also a sunroof from memory. The Adelaides set it perfectly and I thought it looked really nice. Surprisingly so.
I’ve since seen a KR car with more standard spec and it didn’t wow me anywhere near as much, so it might have been the lighting conditions or possibly the Adelaides which made the difference.
I know a lot of people don’t like the Adelaides but I’m a big fan of the design.
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Make sure you've seen King's Red with your own eyes is my advice...
Haven’t seen it in the flesh yet, what is it like in your option?
Fred what colour did you go for in the Mk8 GTI out of interest?
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Moonstone
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Hi, I went for the Kings Red which I pick up on Monday 🙂 I must have looked at a thousand photos and videos before choosing a colour. Although I haven’t seen it in the flesh the guys at the dealership thought it looked fantastic - but I suppose they would say that 😉 I will let you know what I think next week but just for context I’m not a huge fan of tornado. So as fredgroves says it’s personal opinion. Anyway, 2 more sleeps!
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Moonstone
Yea the moonstone grey looks great also, but I think am now swaying more towards Dolphin Grey, but I will see both KR and the grey in the flesh before deciding.
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Hi, I went for the Kings Red which I pick up on Monday 🙂 I must have looked at a thousand photos and videos before choosing a colour. Although I haven’t seen it in the flesh the guys at the dealership thought it looked fantastic - but I suppose they would say that 😉 I will let you know what I think next week but just for context I’m not a huge fan of tornado. So as fredgroves says it’s personal opinion. Anyway, 2 more sleeps!
Yea I am the same I have seen so many pics of Kings Red but haven’t seen it in the flesh yet and I thought that would be the colour I will go for next year when starting my new lease. Be interesting to hear your thoughts after picking yours up on Monday. Get a few pics up when you get it.
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BTW from having seen all of the colours in the flesh (when my dealer got all of the new GTI stock), my next choice would have been reflex silver. Looks really great with the black accents.
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Moonstone
Yea the moonstone grey looks great also, but I think am now swaying more towards Dolphin Grey, but I will see both KR and the grey in the flesh before deciding.
Had mine two weeks now and love dolphin grey 😊. Seen the Red in flesh too it's nice
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Absolutely mega looking KR Clubsport here in a dealers in Dublin:
https://www.facebook.com/200671346671995/posts/5149779645094449/?d=n
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Absolutely mega looking KR Clubsport here in a dealers in Dublin:
https://www.facebook.com/200671346671995/posts/5149779645094449/?d=n
Really like that 👍
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Hi,
Picked up my KR GTI on Monday and (to my relief) I love the colour. When I picked it up at the dealership a customer of theirs had seen mine and changed their GTD order to KR. It definitely stands out 😉. My wife describes the car as erring on the side classy rather than sporty. Either way I would choose KR again. I have also seen black which also looks good.
This is my first GTI and I can see what all the fuss is about!
Photo is on a dull day on my scruffy drive
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Hi,
Picked up my KR GTI on Monday and (to my relief) I love the colour. When I picked it up at the dealership a customer of theirs had seen mine and changed their GTD order to KR. It definitely stands out 😉. My wife describes the car as erring on the side classy rather than sporty. Either way I would choose KR again. I have also seen black which also looks good.
This is my first GTI and I can see what all the fuss is about!
Photo is on a dull day on my scruffy drive
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I think it’s a great colour. Different to the old tornado, which is probably why some are unsure about it, but it still suits a golf gti perfectly well imho. I think your wife sums it up.
Looks great, hope you enjoy it.
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Hi,
Picked up my KR GTI on Monday and (to my relief) I love the colour. When I picked it up at the dealership a customer of theirs had seen mine and changed their GTD order to KR. It definitely stands out 😉. My wife describes the car as erring on the side classy rather than sporty. Either way I would choose KR again. I have also seen black which also looks good.
This is my first GTI and I can see what all the fuss is about!
Photo is on a dull day on my scruffy drive
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That looks very nice in my opinion :cool:
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That looks much better than when I saw one actually.
Maybe it was the crappy weather and the colour is quite lighting level dependent.
VW are of course using a KR one for their TV advertising, so they must rate it.
Anyhow, enjoy your car - I'm mainly enjoying mine :cool:
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Hi,
Picked up my KR GTI on Monday and (to my relief) I love the colour. When I picked it up at the dealership a customer of theirs had seen mine and changed their GTD order to KR. It definitely stands out 😉. My wife describes the car as erring on the side classy rather than sporty. Either way I would choose KR again. I have also seen black which also looks good.
This is my first GTI and I can see what all the fuss is about!
Photo is on a dull day on my scruffy drive
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Looks amazing, it’s made me want the red still after seeing that pic. Health to drive
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Congrats Snowman! :cool: The colour and wheel combo look spot on to me. I saw a similar one in the flesh at the back end of last year and thought it looked great.
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Hi,
Picked up my KR GTI on Monday and (to my relief) I love the colour. When I picked it up at the dealership a customer of theirs had seen mine and changed their GTD order to KR. It definitely stands out 😉. My wife describes the car as erring on the side classy rather than sporty. Either way I would choose KR again. I have also seen black which also looks good.
This is my first GTI and I can see what all the fuss is about!
Photo is on a dull day on my scruffy drive
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hsx1LqSb/4-EB15-ED0-19-A6-49-D2-BAC1-D12-BC6-DA10-F0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3SGfGYB)
looks fab to me :kiss: :laugh:.
i think this 19" wheels set the GTI up really nice all the GTI with this 19" wheels looks really nice.
i wish i had the opportunity to optioned them.
congratulations and safe driving
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Snowmann. Kings red looks excellent and a sunroof. Well done. Hope you enjoy it.
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Hi,
Picked up my KR GTI on Monday and (to my relief) I love the colour. When I picked it up at the dealership a customer of theirs had seen mine and changed their GTD order to KR. It definitely stands out 😉. My wife describes the car as erring on the side classy rather than sporty. Either way I would choose KR again. I have also seen black which also looks good.
This is my first GTI and I can see what all the fuss is about!
Photo is on a dull day on my scruffy drive
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hsx1LqSb/4-EB15-ED0-19-A6-49-D2-BAC1-D12-BC6-DA10-F0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3SGfGYB)
Just lovely. The 19s make a huge difference imo. I know that feeling of relief when you see the colour! Congratulations.
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Thanks for all your congratulations - much appreciated 🙂
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Slightly sad I know but I’m tracking the ship with my new GTI on it. 😂
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That's not sad!
I did exactly the same with my Mk7.5!
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It’s only taken 5 months! 😂
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It’s only taken 5 months! 😂
It's worth the wait 😎
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Congrats!
Sadly I cancelled my order as after 4 months the car had not been scheduled for build.
The dealer could not give a date for delivery nor my contact with VW uk!
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Almost there! :cool:
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Yes, really looking forward to it. Fingers crossed that it arrives with its software updated and I remember not to stick diesel in it.
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Yes, really looking forward to it. Fingers crossed that it arrives with its software updated and I remember not to stick diesel in it.
LOL I've been crapping myself every time over that! Almost thirty years of oil burning for me!
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Yes, really looking forward to it. Fingers crossed that it arrives with its software updated and I remember not to stick diesel in it.
Only had mine 4 weeks on Friday but eventually use to it now, I think I know my full way around with some little hints for things but it's a lovely ride even more on them country roads when it comes alive with them paddles. Only done 450 mile but had a couple of quick bursts but will wait till I get to that 1000 before I fully open it up.
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Yes, really looking forward to it. Fingers crossed that it arrives with its software updated and I remember not to stick diesel in it.
Only had mine 4 weeks on Friday but eventually use to it now, I think I know my full way around with some little hints for things but it's a lovely ride even more on them country roads when it comes alive with them paddles. Only done 450 mile but had a couple of quick bursts but will wait till I get to that 1000 before I fully open it up.
I've had mine 8 days and I just hit 1,000 on the way home last night. It's safe to say that I am enjoying the car! :grin:
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Yes, really looking forward to it. Fingers crossed that it arrives with its software updated and I remember not to stick diesel in it.
Only had mine 4 weeks on Friday but eventually use to it now, I think I know my full way around with some little hints for things but it's a lovely ride even more on them country roads when it comes alive with them paddles. Only done 450 mile but had a couple of quick bursts but will wait till I get to that 1000 before I fully open it up.
I've had mine 8 days and I just hit 1,000 on the way home last night. It's safe to say that I am enjoying the car! :grin:
I couldn't resist a big throttle tonight 😂. Glad your enjoying it. It's a fun little thing
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My brother’s gti is now waiting at port. Hopefully I’ll be able to have a spin when it comes!
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My brother’s gti is now waiting at port. Hopefully I’ll be able to have a spin when it comes!
Remove the “hopefully” and pull rank on him! :grin:
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So my GTI is sitting at the dealership, anyone know what a “drivers pack” is? Apparently VW are waiting for it too turn up before doing the pdi. The guy I spoke to didn’t know what it was. 😂
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My brother’s gti is now waiting at port. Hopefully I’ll be able to have a spin when it comes!
Remove the “hopefully” and pull rank on him! :grin:
Correct again Andy! :grin:
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So my GTI is sitting at the dealership, anyone know what a “drivers pack” is? Apparently VW are waiting for it too turn up before doing the pdi. The guy I spoke to didn’t know what it was. 😂
Might be Car mats, and Car Safety Pack With Travel First Aid Kit Warning Triangle High Visibility Vest Foil Blanket if that is required in uk.
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That makes sense thanks, just heard from the dealership that they are delivering it on 30/03. Earliest they could do as all the car transporters are fully booked till then.
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So my GTI is sitting at the dealership, anyone know what a “drivers pack” is? Apparently VW are waiting for it too turn up before doing the pdi. The guy I spoke to didn’t know what it was. 😂
Might be Car mats, and Car Safety Pack With Travel First Aid Kit Warning Triangle High Visibility Vest Foil Blanket if that is required in uk.
We’re not required to have a car safety pack in the UK.
@Ubique I’d be curious enough to ask the dealer what the driver’s pack is, especially if it’s held up your car having its PDI and you being able to take delivery.
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Hi, apparently it was mats and stuff. The delay on my receiving the car is down to VW saying the first transportation they can get to move car (from Edinburgh to Essex) is on 30/03.
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Hi, apparently it was mats and stuff. The delay on my receiving the car is down to VW saying the first transportation they can get to move car (from Edinburgh to Essex) is on 30/03.
Why on earth have they delivered it to Edinburgh?!!
For Essex I'd have thought it would have come into Sheerness or Grimsby!
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I ordered the car through a friends company that’s based in Edinburgh, he has a contact at a local VW dealership who has arranged a really good lease deal on it. It’s worth a bit of a wait for the monthly savings. 👍
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone got a Clubsport on order in which you ordered Jan/Feb?
I ordered late January and have just been given an unconfirmed build week 44 (November) :angry: - I was told by the dealer that it would be June delivery.
I know these are subject to change but build week 44 is a bit drastic and is swaying me more towards cancelling.
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I'd say that was entirely probable... But remember you won't even get order confirmed from the factory until the dealer has allocation and after that there is the lead time... Which when I was chatting with the dealer when I picked mine up the other week he was talking 33 weeks lead time.
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I'd say that was entirely probable... But remember you won't even get order confirmed from the factory until the dealer has allocation and after that there is the lead time... Which when I was chatting with the dealer when I picked mine up the other week he was talking 33 weeks lead time.
My order has been sat at 'Stage 2 your order is with the factory' for 5 weeks now (which is expected). I just thought the unconfirmed build week would be a little closer than that. Its gone from 30 > 33 > 44 which is concerning.
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OK so if you are at stage 2 then at least your dealer has allocation...
The problems they have at the moment are semiconductors... Everyone making anything has the same problem. Its crippling everything.
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone got a Clubsport on order in which you ordered Jan/Feb?
I ordered late January and have just been given an unconfirmed build week 44 (November) :angry: - I was told by the dealer that it would be June delivery.
I know these are subject to change but build week 44 is a bit drastic and is swaying me more towards cancelling.
I placed my clubsport order 2nd February and it's at Stage 4 - production build. Expecting it to be complete this week.
How long it takes to being delivered to me is the harder guess.
Sorry to hear you are facing this problem
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I would guess that beyond dealer allocation there could be other factors at play... maybe the dealer has a lot of orders, maybe some dealers are given queue priority over others.... I doubt its a first come first served basis at all.
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone got a Clubsport on order in which you ordered Jan/Feb?
I ordered late January and have just been given an unconfirmed build week 44 (November) :angry: - I was told by the dealer that it would be June delivery.
I know these are subject to change but build week 44 is a bit drastic and is swaying me more towards cancelling.
I placed my clubsport order 2nd February and it's at Stage 4 - production build. Expecting it to be complete this week.
How long it takes to being delivered to me is the harder guess.
Sorry to hear you are facing this problem
Whats your spec?
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19" Adelaide Moonstone Grey, nothing else
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone got a Clubsport on order in which you ordered Jan/Feb?
I ordered late January and have just been given an unconfirmed build week 44 (November) :angry: - I was told by the dealer that it would be June delivery.
I know these are subject to change but build week 44 is a bit drastic and is swaying me more towards cancelling.
That's terrible, as I am thinking of placing an order but no way wanting to wait that long.
What's your spec? Is it something they cannot get hold of.
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone got a Clubsport on order in which you ordered Jan/Feb?
I ordered late January and have just been given an unconfirmed build week 44 (November) :angry: - I was told by the dealer that it would be June delivery.
I know these are subject to change but build week 44 is a bit drastic and is swaying me more towards cancelling.
That's terrible, as I am thinking of placing an order but no way wanting to wait that long.
What's your spec? Is it something they cannot get hold of.
Nothing special, 19" Adelaide, pure white, rear view camera. Had an update from the dealer, she says "I spoke with Volkswagen and they have assured me that whilst they manage the back log of Golf orders, they push all of the orders as far back as they are able to, and then place them into a build slot This vehicle should have a closer and more realistic build week confirmed very soon."
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My brother’s GTI is finally being picked up on Tuesday. I’ll get some photos up.
I went into my local VW today and was able to have a good nosey at 2 Clubsports and numerous GTIs. All looked good.
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My brother’s GTI is finally being picked up on Tuesday. I’ll get some photos up.
I went into my local VW today and was able to have a good nosey at 2 Clubsports and numerous GTIs. All looked good.
Nice
When did he order?
What dealer. I'd have nose too if near
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone got a Clubsport on order in which you ordered Jan/Feb?
I ordered late January and have just been given an unconfirmed build week 44 (November) :angry: - I was told by the dealer that it would be June delivery.
I know these are subject to change but build week 44 is a bit drastic and is swaying me more towards cancelling.
That's terrible, as I am thinking of placing an order but no way wanting to wait that long.
What's your spec? Is it something they cannot get hold of.
I placed my order 15th December 2020, Heard nothing, still "with the factory"
Dealer last month couldnt tell me when I would get the car so cancelled!
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My brother’s GTI is finally being picked up on Tuesday. I’ll get some photos up.
I went into my local VW today and was able to have a good nosey at 2 Clubsports and numerous GTIs. All looked good.
Nice
When did he order?
What dealer. I'd have nose too if near
It was mid November! Crackers eh?
I went to Vw Blackburn. They had 2 Clubsports, 5 Gti’s and a couple of GTDs. Interesting also had a Tiguan R and Touareg R.
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone got a Clubsport on order in which you ordered Jan/Feb?
I ordered late January and have just been given an unconfirmed build week 44 (November) :angry: - I was told by the dealer that it would be June delivery.
I know these are subject to change but build week 44 is a bit drastic and is swaying me more towards cancelling.
I was looking in Jan/Feb. I was being quoted times of between June & August from dealers and being told that a mix of Covid and the semi-conductor shortage being the main culprits, so November is not entirely unrealistic. Circumstances dictated that I was unable to wait that long, so I decided to go for a base-spec ClubSport and I have zero regrets. The only thing I feel as though I am missing, with hindsight, is the HK sound. I was going to spec DCC but, having now driven the Clubsport, aside from the 'cool-factor' of having the Nurburgring Mode, I really don't feel as though it would've been worthwhile as I feel the ride is good for me as it is.
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Ordered Clubsport 2nd Feb taking delivery in 12 days time.
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Ordered Clubsport 2nd Feb taking delivery in 12 days time.
That’s good, what was the spec?
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Adelaide alloys and Moonstone Grey. I reckon not taking anything else has helped me!!
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Ordered a Clubsport in Dolphin Grey, Adelaides, DCC, winter pack and reversing camera in the last week of January. Picking it up next Thursday