Golf R32 are they really that bad????

[AlanD]

I'll admit to no 20v experience, but the 225bhp lump remapped must be up there power wise...can't be that expensive/difficult to swap the 225 bits over can it?

The 225 lump is diffrent to that of what you get in a MK4 GTI as its already got the KO4 turbo and manifold etc in it ( TT, S3 and Cupra). A remaped 225 is a diffrent kettle of fish.

[Adam]

This surprises me 

R32 -
Power at Flywheel (BHP) :   237
Weight without Driver (KG) :   1512
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) :   159.26
0 - 60 (Secs) :   6.19
0 - 100 (Secs) :   17.47
60 - 100 (Secs) :   11.28
Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.96
Terminal Speed (MPH) :   92.51
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.56
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :

1.8T Ko3s remapped to 220 -

Power at Flywheel (BHP) :   220
Weight without Driver (KG) :   1203
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) :   185.81
0 - 60 (Secs) :   6.00
0 - 100 (Secs) :   14.84
60 - 100 (Secs) :   8.84
Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.38
Terminal Speed (MPH) :   98.43
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.18
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :   100.18

[haf1zur]

This surprises me 

R32 -
Power at Flywheel (BHP) :   237
Weight without Driver (KG) :   1512
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) :   159.26
0 - 60 (Secs) :   6.19
0 - 100 (Secs) :   17.47
60 - 100 (Secs) :   11.28
Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.96
Terminal Speed (MPH) :   92.51
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.56
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :

1.8T Ko3s remapped to 220 -

Power at Flywheel (BHP) :   220
Weight without Driver (KG) :   1203
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) :   185.81
0 - 60 (Secs) :   6.00
0 - 100 (Secs) :   14.84
60 - 100 (Secs) :   8.84
Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.38
Terminal Speed (MPH) :   98.43
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.18
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :   100.18

if the ecu is upto date with 6463 its closer to 247

I am liking this

Power at Flywheel (BHP) :   265
Weight without Driver (KG) :   1373
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) :   196.11
0 - 60 (Secs) :   5.09
0 - 100 (Secs) :   13.78
60 - 100 (Secs) :   8.69
Quarter Mile (Secs) :   13.82
Terminal Speed (MPH) :   100.15
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) :   13.42
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :   103.32

[A7 UFO]

This surprises me 

what does?  The fact that the 20v is faster?

I'm not surprised as my 175bhp/150lbs 2.0 16v mk2 was faster than a 240bhp rallye.  Weight counts for a lot.

[Adam]

This surprises me 

what does?  The fact that the 20v is faster?

I'm not surprised as my 175bhp/150lbs 2.0 16v mk2 was faster than a 240bhp rallye.  Weight counts for a lot.

Yea. More so the weight of the R32 but suppose it does have to lug that 4wd and 2 extra cylinders.

[nickvw]

I've had my R32 for 20 months now and absolutely love it, fair enough  they are pricey to buy and at the pumps but i think they are worth it obviously or i wouldnt have bought one  

Over the last 2000 miles my average fuel consumption has been 26 mpg, thats a mixture of town motorway and weekend thrash, tbh i have looked into changing for a mk5 gti for the same money as mines worth mainly due to the fuel but when i worked it out i would save about £7 a week so not really worth it to me.

It's not all about power figures anyway it's down to how it drives and although the R32 is a heavy car it can still shift and the power is instant and totally smooth, i went round a roundabout the other day whilst being lazy and left it in 6th at 25mph and it still pulled smoothly out the other side.

I had wnted one for a long time before a bought mine and i will never regret it one bit it's an awesome car and if i were to think about changing now it would more than likely be a mk5 R32 that replaced it.

These are just my views from a unbiased R32 owner haha  

[Hulmie]

This surprises me 

R32 -
Power at Flywheel (BHP) :   237
Weight without Driver (KG) :   1512
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) :   159.26
0 - 60 (Secs) :   6.19
0 - 100 (Secs) :   17.47
60 - 100 (Secs) :   11.28
Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.96
Terminal Speed (MPH) :   92.51
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.56
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :

1.8T Ko3s remapped to 220 -

Power at Flywheel (BHP) :   220
Weight without Driver (KG) :   1203
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) :   185.81
0 - 60 (Secs) :   6.00
0 - 100 (Secs) :   14.84
60 - 100 (Secs) :   8.84
Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.38
Terminal Speed (MPH) :   98.43
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) :   14.18
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :   100.18

if the ecu is upto date with 6463 its closer to 247

I am liking this

Power at Flywheel (BHP) :   265
Weight without Driver (KG) :   1373
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) :   196.11
0 - 60 (Secs) :   5.09
0 - 100 (Secs) :   13.78
60 - 100 (Secs) :   8.69
Quarter Mile (Secs) :   13.82
Terminal Speed (MPH) :   100.15
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) :   13.42
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) :   103.32

Where are these figures from? Using what map/mods etc?

Im interested as my car is supposed to be 230bhp on the rollers so kind of gives me an idea of what 1/4 mile run it should do.

[haf1zur]

i'd take all the figures with a pinch of salt, well quite a big pinch actually

reason being stock r32 did 13.9 1/4

albeit with weight reduction

[haf1zur]

Where are these figures from? Using what map/mods etc?

Im interested as my car is supposed to be 230bhp on the rollers so kind of gives me an idea of what 1/4 mile run it should do.

http://www.letstorquebhp.com/calculator.asp

[Ivor Mk4 Turbo]

Hehe, I love these threads.......................

My old 227 bhp/256 lb ft 1.8 T outran a standard R32 on a DC (was a dry road though, obviously).

I would still have the DBP R32 over my old GTI, anyday.  The sound.........................  The looks............................  The feel-good-factor/kudos etc.