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Title: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Plodalong on 13 March 2018, 23:34
Hi,
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I picked up a 2016 GTI this evening, however it doesn't have a mode button down beside the gear lever. I thought all GTIs had this enabling access to adjust the settings of the car. Does the mode button on the steering wheel do the same this.
Thanks M.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Carbon VW on 13 March 2018, 23:45
Hi there ! Congrats on your purchase. To answer your question , no the mode button on the left of your steering wheel controls the cruise control/speed limiter only. If you do not have a mode button to the left of your gear stick then your car doesn’t have the driver profile selection (mode button) is the car a performance pack  model or the standard GTi?
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Plodalong on 13 March 2018, 23:46
Sorry it is a manual Performance Pack.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Carbon VW on 13 March 2018, 23:50
Sorry it is a manual Performance Pack.
Have you tried finding the driving mode selection through the infotainment system? Has your car got DCC?(dynamic chassis control)
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Booth11 on 13 March 2018, 23:57
Iirc Irish cars didn’t come with the driver profile mode option as standard. It had to be specced.

This is for R’s but applies to GTI.

http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/23183-no-mode-button/?tab=comments#comment-373823

The button on the steering wheel does not give access to driver profiles.

JoeGTI on here will probably be able to give you more info.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Plodalong on 14 March 2018, 00:00
I couldn't find anything in the infotainment system for adjusting, and no it doesn't have he Dcc.
It is also an English car.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Booth11 on 14 March 2018, 00:02
I couldn't find anything in the infotainment system for adjusting, and no it doesn't have he Dcc.
It is also an English car.

Could it have come from Ireland originally?
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Plodalong on 14 March 2018, 00:17
I checked the log book and it doesn't show anything about coming from Ireland and it has only ever been registered in GB.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: JoeGTI on 14 March 2018, 00:37
Rep of Ireland GTI’s didn’t (still don’t? -  not sure about the 7.5) get that Mode button unless the adaptive chassis (DCC) was spec’d.
So I guess it’s possible that it’s originally a ROI spec car. An ROI car would also originally be fitted with a KPH-only speedo although this could have been swapped for mph clocks relatively easily.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Hebegeebee on 14 March 2018, 00:42
Rep of Ireland GTI’s didn’t (still don’t? -  not sure about the 7.5) get that Mode button unless the adaptive chassis (DCC) was spec’d.
So I guess it’s possible that it’s originally a ROI spec car. An ROI car would also originally be fitted with a KPH-only speedo although this could have been swapped for mph clocks relatively easily.

Hi Joe, the 7.5 GTi’s here have the mode button even without DCC.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Bungleaio on 14 March 2018, 12:23
Do you have the radar sensor in the front grill? There were quite a few grey imports that didnt' have them.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: I wanted a GTi on 14 March 2018, 16:40
Do you have the radar sensor in the front grill? There were quite a few grey imports that didnt' have them.

Friend of mine got one of the first Mk7 GTi's in the UK and it didn't have the radar either.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Plodalong on 14 March 2018, 19:22
Thanks everyone for your help. Turns out the car is an import from Malta and none of this was recorded on the log book. The dealer, who was also unaware, is going to replace it for me and allowing me to hold on to it until he sources me a suitable replacement.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: JHWP on 14 March 2018, 20:43
 :shocked:

Seriously, the dealer didn't know it was an import from Malta? Surely they at least would have done a HPI or similar check? Holy gearstick, I think this is mad. At least they are sorting it for you so that's good. Did you buy it from a V.W main dealer?
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: fredgroves on 14 March 2018, 21:32
dealer "didn't know" yeah ok... more like "hoped you didn't spot it"

Imported is not something that you want to tell your insurer...

You have told the insurer?
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Plodalong on 14 March 2018, 22:01
Bought at a local independent trader. I do actually believe him as the auction house in Scotland have agreed to refund him as they hadn't been aware either and nothing showed up with the HPI check.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Guzzle on 14 March 2018, 22:08
Didn't Motorpoint bring in loads of Mk7 GTi's and GTD's from Malta and Cyprus?

They'd be first registered in UK but would be missing various random bits of standard UK spec. Some IIRC even had xenon headlights missing and fitted with halogens instead.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: JoeGTI on 14 March 2018, 22:20
Very early Irish cars had terrible spec. Halogens, 17’s, no climate, no radar and a bunch of other stuff. This was dramatically changed from late 2014 onwards. Irish cars are now better spec’d than U.K.!
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Talk-torque on 15 March 2018, 07:32
Great result! Hope the replacement car is a gem.

Shows the power of forum knowledge!
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: JHWP on 15 March 2018, 08:38
Bought at a local independent trader. I do actually believe him as the auction house in Scotland have agreed to refund him as they hadn't been aware either and nothing showed up with the HPI check.

O.K. A pretty big whoopsie on the dealers part but at least you are getting it sorted anyway, that's the main thing. Surprised nothing showed up on the HPI check. It will show the date of first registration as well as the date of first registration in the U.K. The V5 will also show this. If those two dates don't match, it means that the date of first registration was not in the U.K. If it was imported as new/unregistered and first registered in the U.K. then that might explain things. Regardless, it's hard to believe this slipped through the net of an auction company, a dealer and a buyer - well maybe technically not the buyer as it was discovered, albeit after the sale took place... I suppose the moral of the story here is the old favorite of buyer beware!

Hope the fix to this problem goes well for you. You may end up with a better car as a replacement - it will have a mode button this time at least  :wink:
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Mark V GTD on 15 March 2018, 12:54
It can be very difficult to find out. I used to import Merc SLK's - they were sourced from Denmark to precise UK spec and then shipped here and registered with DVLA as new. Very hard to tell they came via Denmark from the paperwork.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Plodalong on 28 March 2018, 19:27
Just to update.
Got to keep and Drive the 'import' until the dealer sorted a replacement. So put 800 miles on his car.
He has now got me a lovely 2016 GTI PP with 19" alloys, DCC and few other extras as a replacement.
Despite the hassle all has worked out well in the end. 😉
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: JHWP on 29 March 2018, 12:58
Result. Glad to hear that this one worked out well or better for you as more often than not these kind of issues don't. Enjoy the your new wheels  :smiley:
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: DanDuda48 on 31 March 2018, 00:55
<Very early Irish cars had terrible spec. Halogens, 17’s, no climate, no radar and a bunch of other stuff. This was dramatically changed from late 2014 onwards. Irish cars are now better spec’d than U.K.!>

In what sense? Can you be more specific, Joe?
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Fabio Bignose on 31 March 2018, 08:34
Winter pack and Sat Nav not standard in Ireland.
I believe they are standard in UK?

In circumstances like these, Ireland could benefit from sharing a ‘common model’ with the UK as any unsold stock could be moved into the UK market without situations like these arising.
This cud also have the added benefit of giving ROI customers more choice of variants as no risk if model doesn’t sell well as cud easily be moved back into UK market.

VW range very narrow here.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: DanDuda48 on 02 April 2018, 04:37
Yes, both Winter pack and 8" SatNav are standard on UK GTI/GTD. That's why Joe is talking non-sense... :-)
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: mcmaddy on 02 April 2018, 12:24
I think Joe was talking about early mk7s not current ones.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: Fabio Bignose on 02 April 2018, 16:44
ROI cars are always lower spec due to an import tax called VRT ( vehicle registration tax )

Features of the car considered to be ‘over and above’ standard spec are taxed resulting in artificially high prices.

For example; a UK spec 5 door GTI currently costs £29120 but is €38200 in Ireland and the current exchange rate is far more favorable than that.! And remember no Nav, winter pack or Alarm as standard on ROI cars....

It’s a protectionist measure to protect the car industry in Ireland from UK imports otherwise we’d all just go to N.I to buy cars.

Ultimately it reduces choice and value for ROI customers.
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: DanDuda48 on 03 April 2018, 06:05
I think Joe was talking about early mk7s not current ones.
Early Mk7 GTI/GTDs had xenons & KESSY (besides Sat Nav; Winter Pack; Alarm).
So now trying to defend Joe you talk non-sense. :-)
And Fabio already explained to you WHY this is so...
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: mcmaddy on 03 April 2018, 06:50
I think Joe was talking about early mk7s not current ones.
Early Mk7 GTI/GTDs had xenons & KESSY (besides Sat Nav; Winter Pack; Alarm).
So now trying to defend Joe you talk non-sense. :-)
And Fabio already explained to you WHY this is so...
Why the attitude? Do you think putting a stupid smiley face makes what you say ok??
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: DanDuda48 on 03 April 2018, 22:01
Sorry, I have no intention to be rude.
My apologies.
I feel bad that the folks in Ireland get the short end of the straw.
But why say something which is obviously a fake news?
Or is it just ignorance?
I just thought that facts are very clear about the level of equipment...
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: mcmaddy on 04 April 2018, 15:59
Different people on this forum have said the Irish spec cars aren't the same as the UK spec ones. They may be now but since 2013 the spec levels have been different whether you like/agree with it or not. Fake news? Ignorance? Ffs !!
Title: Re: No mode button at gear area
Post by: st332 on 04 April 2018, 17:07
The tax treatment of cars in Ireland is very different to the UK and I think there may be differences also in how extras are treated for tax purposes.
In general, we pay a far higher rate of tax on a new car and new cars are considerably more expensive than the UK as a result.
Historically, cars were cheaply spec'd for the Irish market to keep the price down but this now seems not to be the case.
I think the specs nowadays are there or thereabouts between Ireland and the UK, with some differences probably due to the ability to keep things within various tax bands in each jurisdiction.