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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: bagslife86 on 30 December 2008, 01:56
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hi all, please help!!
how quickly could i get to 60mph/100mph with a stage 2 revo remap along with decat 3'' stainless system, induction kit, 4 bar FPR. its a mk4 1.8T GTi golf.
also, what bhp will i be pumping?
please reply folks!!
cheers,
Craig
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why so hung up on 0-60mph figures :undecided: do you live in a town full of traffic lights and 60 zones?? :laugh:
best thing you can do is to lose weight - power mods will only get you so far but then you need to start loosing weight to give you a better power to weight ratio
so which 1.8T do you have as there are several............
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forget bout 0-60 and 0-100 as these cars even after a remap arent designed for 0-60,0-100 more for midrange and realworld driving grunt(overtaking etc)!!! u want 0-60 and 0-100 then its engine rebuild and big turbo etc etc mega ££££££ time then the car becomes slower round town,torque steering and laggy plus wheel spins everywhere and in realworld driving conditions slower than a remapped k03s and only really faster over 100mph ish but whats the point as ull get well and truley banned in time and how often do u do those speeds!!!!!if u want 0-60-0-100 get a 4wd turbo beast and very deep pockets!!!!.Believe me ive had a 350bhp M3, 380bhp mitsubishi evo5,380bhp n 480bhp power cossies etc which some are designed for 0-60-0-100 but are laggy and unresponsive around town and low speeds! but loving my GTi remapped AUM (210bhp-ish)as its perfect for the driving i do and is really punchy when its NEEDED!!!!
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yeh, i appreciate that, thats y im going to get it done, for the midrange grunt. i was just wondering how much it would affect acceleration from a standing start?? the original time for my gti (03) is 7.9 seconds (i think)?? should be running around 210-220 bhp after the stage 2 revo. i already know it makes midrange power and torque amazing, just would like to know if it'l help me take a civic type per say, at the lights??
cheers
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Drivers ability has a lot to do with a 0-60 time as well.
I echo everyone else's views of not really giving a sh!t on 0-60 times, all it does is f**k your clutch up and wear down your tyres :(
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does anyone have any usefull info on how these modifications may affect my 0-60??? thats all i really wana know.
cheers
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With 220 in a MK4 id hazzard a guess at a 0-60 of about 6.5 seconds.
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cheers.
any other insight?
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My Mk4 beat 2 CTR's (in a straight line) with ~200 bhp on the old KO3. Haven't come accross any since my new turbo. (I should be running 215-220 bhp, now).
I'd say 6.5 secs would be a good shout for 0-60, but the more power/torque you get, the harder it is to get the power down in 1st & 2nd. Rolling starts & overtaking on the move is where it's at with mapped Mk4's, IMO. ;)
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You sure you want a MK4 ? A Saxo sounds more suited :evil:
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hi all, please help!!
how quickly could i get to 60mph/100mph with a stage 2 revo remap along with decat 3'' stainless system, induction kit, 4 bar FPR. its a mk4 1.8T GTi golf.
also, what bhp will i be pumping?
please reply folks!!
cheers,
Craig
What spec is your 1.8t? AGU ARZ or AUM?
The AUMs will make 210bhp all day long just from a stage1 remap. Stage 2 power can be upto 230bhp+ to 240bhp Max, but you will need to mod the car to keep the EGTs down, Performance exhaust, de-cat, 3" down pipe, (even custom manifold) plus a good FMIC around 9ltr and 4bar "pump" & fuel reg to keep the duty cycle with in a safe limit.
The the next stage is just to bolt-on a ko4 turbo with 3"maf and custom remap her on the rolling road and you should seen 270bhp+ which will give that huge midrage grunt you need for some great 60-100 times.
Nick
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cheers!
its an AUM code by the way, 2003. all the 1.8t GTi's post 2000 are AUM's arent they??
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cheers!
its an AUM code by the way, 2003. all the 1.8t GTi's post 2000 are AUM's arent they??
They should be, but some cars are late registered, so the odd late ARZ's (2001) & early AUM's (2000) may show up once in a while. Engine code is stamped on the front L/H side of the engine, so is easy to spot in any case. ;)
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cheers!
its an AUM code by the way, 2003. all the 1.8t GTi's post 2000 are AUM's arent they??
The 1.8T 180bhp is AUQ...
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that 180bhp engine has the same re-map potential as the AUM 150bhp engine does it not??
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that 180bhp engine has the same re-map potential as the AUM 150bhp engine does it not??
Correct. It's just an AUM with 6 gears which was mapped to 180 by VW. ;)
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y didnt they just set it to the 200ish a mapper can set it to?? lol.
que the abuse....
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y didnt they just set it to the 200ish a mapper can set it to?? lol.
que the abuse....
:smiley:
VAG group like to keep VW's way below the flagship Audis. :smiley:
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Why you gotta use text talk?
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Why you gotta use text talk?
agreed but your reply is hardly the Queen's finest english now is it...................
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Why you gotta use text talk?
agreed but your reply is hardly the Queen's finest english now is it...................
Yeah but its better than I said to my m8 etc :rolleyes:
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Why you gotta use text talk?
agreed but your reply is hardly the Queen's finest english now is it...................
Yeah but its better than I said to my m8 etc :rolleyes:
just :tongue:
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Why you gotta use text talk?
agreed but your reply is hardly the Queen's finest english now is it...................
Yeah but its better than I said to my m8 etc :rolleyes:
just :tongue:
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Even remapped to 220 bhp the CTR will win in a drag and a race round a circuit. So much about speed and cornering is to do with weight, this is the Honda's trump card.
Back to real world stuff, if you were in your remapped Mk4 and wanted to overtake rapidly you can just plant your foot and it goes. In the CTR you have to change gear to get the revs to 6k and then you go....very fast.
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Even remapped to 220 bhp the CTR will win in a drag and a race round a circuit. So much about speed and cornering is to do with weight, this is the Honda's trump card.
Back to real world stuff, if you were in your remapped Mk4 and wanted to overtake rapidly you can just plant your foot and it goes. In the CTR you have to change gear to get the revs to 6k and then you go....very fast.
I was talking about the EP3, don't know if you were??
On a track, yes I'd agree with you - They handle very well.
BUT,
In a straight line drag............................................ No way!! (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Smileys/nono.gif)
My (202 bhp Mk4 on Jabbasport print-out, so more likely 195 bhp in reality) outdragged both my mates EP3 CTR (204 bhp) - JUST & another (anon) boggo one quite easily. My car now, with 215-220 bhp would do it a lot easier, now, IMO. (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Smileys/yes.gif)
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thats wat i thought ivor. u out-drag them by much?? u must hav bin doin 0-60 in around 6.5ish then. gd work.
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My mates by about a cars length, & the other by about 3-4. :smug:
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ps My mate couldn't take it. About a month later he had a Scooby STi on the drive!! :D
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ps My mate couldn't take it. About a month later he had a Scooby STi on the drive!! :D
lol Love it :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Even remapped to 220 bhp the CTR will win in a drag and a race round a circuit. So much about speed and cornering is to do with weight, this is the Honda's trump card.
Back to real world stuff, if you were in your remapped Mk4 and wanted to overtake rapidly you can just plant your foot and it goes. In the CTR you have to change gear to get the revs to 6k and then you go....very fast.
I was talking about the EP3, don't know if you were??
On a track, yes I'd agree with you - They handle very well.
BUT,
In a straight line drag............................................ No way!! (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Smileys/nono.gif)
My (202 bhp Mk4 on Jabbasport print-out, so more likely 195 bhp in reality) outdragged both my mates EP3 CTR (204 bhp) - JUST & another (anon) boggo one quite easily. My car now, with 215-220 bhp would do it a lot easier, now, IMO. (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Smileys/yes.gif)
So your modified turbo car beat a lightly modded n/a car and a standard n/a car. A ctr with a remap (kpro) and some breathing mods will be at 220+bhp and will be quicker than a mapped gti mk4 as ive said in other threads. My 220bhp ctr was a good 3 car lengths ahead of my mates mk4 which he said easily had 230bhp! When it came to a corner i never saw him again.
At the end of the day though the mk4 is cheaper to buy and so can be made much quicker for less than the cost of a 2nd hand standard ctr. Even the score and give the ctr some boost(i.e. supercharger) and you will be leaving behind standard sti's and evo's.
If your going to compare a car to another they should be equal, otherwise you could say a smart car is faster than every mk4 on here!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k9YTcdF9-2E
Of course it isnt, but a modified one can be.
If your goal is to be faster than another car, you might as well save the hassle and buy that car! It will be less likely to go wrong and will do those speeds all day long.
I could rev my old type r to 8600rpm all day and it wouldnt miss a beat as it was made for it, i wouldnt like to red line a highly modded car all day long unless it had had serious money spent on fortifying the internals!
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Or just buy a MK5 :D !
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Or just buy a MK5 :D !
lol thats what im doing :grin:
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yawn
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yawn
You sound tired mate, late night? :smiley:
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:D !
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Even remapped to 220 bhp the CTR will win in a drag and a race round a circuit. So much about speed and cornering is to do with weight, this is the Honda's trump card.
Back to real world stuff, if you were in your remapped Mk4 and wanted to overtake rapidly you can just plant your foot and it goes. In the CTR you have to change gear to get the revs to 6k and then you go....very fast.
I was talking about the EP3, don't know if you were??
On a track, yes I'd agree with you - They handle very well.
BUT,
In a straight line drag............................................ No way!! (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Smileys/nono.gif)
My (202 bhp Mk4 on Jabbasport print-out, so more likely 195 bhp in reality) outdragged both my mates EP3 CTR (204 bhp) - JUST & another (anon) boggo one quite easily. My car now, with 215-220 bhp would do it a lot easier, now, IMO. (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Smileys/yes.gif)
So your modified turbo car beat a lightly modded n/a car and a standard n/a car. A ctr with a remap (kpro) and some breathing mods will be at 220+bhp and will be quicker than a mapped gti mk4 as ive said in other threads. My 220bhp ctr was a good 3 car lengths ahead of my mates mk4 which he said easily had 230bhp! When it came to a corner i never saw him again.
At the end of the day though the mk4 is cheaper to buy and so can be made much quicker for less than the cost of a 2nd hand standard ctr. Even the score and give the ctr some boost(i.e. supercharger) and you will be leaving behind standard sti's and evo's.
If your going to compare a car to another they should be equal, otherwise you could say a smart car is faster than every mk4 on here!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k9YTcdF9-2E
Of course it isnt, but a modified one can be.
If your goal is to be faster than another car, you might as well save the hassle and buy that car! It will be less likely to go wrong and will do those speeds all day long.
I could rev my old type r to 8600rpm all day and it wouldnt miss a beat as it was made for it, i wouldnt like to red line a highly modded car all day long unless it had had serious money spent on fortifying the internals!
If you'd bother to read the posts properly, instead of getting a hard-on everytime you see the words 'Civic Type-R', you'd realise that my post was in response to someone saying that a standard CTR would out drag a 220 bhp Mk4 Golf, which I pointed out is 100%, absolutely no arguments, untrue, as my 195 bhp Golf saw off both the SLIGHTLY modded & standard CTR. ;)
I'm so happy you love CTR's & the way they can 'out-handle' a Mk4 Golf - Not hard is it??!! :rolleyes: I think, no I'm positive, I even admitted that a CTR would be quicker on a track, FFS, so I don't even know why you've brought this up!! However, IMO, the CTR has even less steering feel than the Golf. I sure hope you're not confusing 'grip' with 'handling'?? :afro:
I'm not even saying my Golf is better than a CTR - It isn't in some areas, & is in others! They're 2 VERY different cars which people buy for their own reasons/lifestyle etc. ;)
I agree with you on something, though, it's always better (but arguably less fun) to buy a quick car in the first place! :)
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Or just buy a MK5 :D !
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................................................... Ed. 30!!!
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Smileys/HomerDrool.jpg)
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If you'd bother to read the posts properly, instead of getting a hard-on everytime you see the words 'Civic Type-R'
:rolleyes: Calm down. I sold my Type r over a month ago to get a golf so i cant love them that much. I have a lot of experience with them though as i had it at a few levels of power and remember how it performed standard and modded.
my post was in response to someone saying that a standard CTR would out drag a 220 bhp Mk4 Golf, which I pointed out is 100%, absolutely no arguments, untrue
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On paper i would agree a car 20bhp down couldnt win. But 20bhp isnt much and factors such as tyre pressure, passengers or the amount of fuel could affect the outcome! That statement is laughably silly :smiley:
However, IMO, the CTR has even less steering feel than the Golf. I sure hope you're not confusing 'grip' with 'handling'?? :afro:
I didnt at any point mention either word 'grip' or 'handling', so not sure where that has come from? :undecided:
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Well i've had 2 CTR's (ep3), a Honda Integra Type-R (DC5) , Leon Cupra R and now the GOlf 1.8 GTi (Lots of cars before, in between though :) )
The Leon was chipped up to 265bhp which in a straight drag was the fastest :)
The first CTR i modified a lot, nothing tasteless mind. It was chipped, full N1 racing exhaust system, lowered, MUgen filter, plus lots of other bits and bobs. That was a very quick car and kept up with my mates S2000 very easily.
The second CTR was the facelift version. Slightly modified. This im sorry would keep up and at the very least draw in a drag with a modified GTi.
The best of the lot was the Integra, very strong in all gears and handling to die for. There is no other better front wheel drive handling car.
With the Honda's though you have to be ready to drive fast, with th eVW its the lazy way. If you want to go fast just put your foot down and zzzoooomm :)
Each to their own, they are all fast cars but the CTR will always beat the modified Golf GTi ;)
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Thourt this was a MKIV golf section hmmm
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yawn
You sound tired mate, late night? :smiley:
nope - bored of this sort of sh!te
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If you'd bother to read the posts properly, instead of getting a hard-on everytime you see the words 'Civic Type-R'
:rolleyes: Calm down. I sold my Type r over a month ago to get a golf so i cant love them that much. I have a lot of experience with them though as i had it at a few levels of power and remember how it performed standard and modded.
my post was in response to someone saying that a standard CTR would out drag a 220 bhp Mk4 Golf, which I pointed out is 100%, absolutely no arguments, untrue
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On paper i would agree a car 20bhp down couldnt win. But 20bhp isnt much and factors such as tyre pressure, passengers or the amount of fuel could affect the outcome! That statement is laughably silly :smiley:
However, IMO, the CTR has even less steering feel than the Golf. I sure hope you're not confusing 'grip' with 'handling'?? :afro:
I didnt at any point mention either word 'grip' or 'handling', so not sure where that has come from? :undecided:
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e345/ivormk4/Smileys/dunno.gif)
Think I just got carried away a bit there! :D