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Model specific boards => Golf mk7 => Topic started by: Tally Wacker on 15 May 2019, 20:13
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Need help please.
Currently have 19" Diamond Cut Bresica wheels on my Oryx White Mk7.5 Golf Performance.
Can't decide whether to have them painted or powder coated? Or what colour to go with?
Any suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
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Leave them as is, don't go and ruin what is a great looking wheel :smiley:
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(https://i.postimg.cc/ZYGXWynh/Screenshot-20190502-200826-e-Bay.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wt75Kz09)
Took this screenshot of some Brescia's that had been refinished.
You can only refurb diamond cut 2 or 3 times, so was wondering the same as I've had 1 done 2 times already.
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As per Watts, unless they're battered or riddled with whiteworm, any painting will only make them look worse. :smiley:
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Cheers guys. They are great looking wheels to be sure but already showing signs of corrosion on a couple of them .the dreaded white worm. Going to cost me £100+ per wheel for diamond cut refurb, they will go again & can only be cut a couple of times anyway hence going down the route of
full repaint or powder coating. MKgti..are they powder coated or painted m8?
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Keep the Brescia alloys - put them into storage if you’ve got the space so you can fit them back on the car when the time comes to sell it - and buy a second set of wheels.
I’d go for a set of wheels with a painted / powder coated finish (so no risk of white worm corrosion) in a gunmetal or anthracite colour which IMO would look good on a white car. Forum member Gnasher has a set of BBS SR alloys in satin Himalayan Grey - see post #15 in the thread at the link below. BBS SR’s are available in 18” and 19” sizes for the Golf. 18’s are 8j x 18 ET45 and 19’s are 8.5j x 19 ET46.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=279564.msg2556379#msg2556379
I’m personally not a big fan of black alloys as I think much of the detail of the wheel’s design gets lost on a black wheel, and they soon look dirty when they get a layer of brake dust on them.
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I don't understand why your wheels are having so many problems so quickly? My Santiagos are far from mint with a few areas of kerbing but no signs of whiteworm after 4 years. Is it a local conditions issue? Perhaps getting them refurbed by a quality company (Lepsons are regularly recommended) they will last longer? If you are determined to go down a painted finish, how about keeping them as is ie with the diamond cut parts painted silver?
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I don't understand why your wheels are having so many problems so quickly? My Santiagos are far from mint with a few areas of kerbing but no signs of whiteworm after 4 years. Is it a local conditions issue? Perhaps getting them refurbed by a quality company (Lepsons are regularly recommended) they will last longer? If you are determined to go down a painted finish, how about keeping them as is ie with the diamond cut parts painted silver?
I think it’s likely to be quite expensive to have them refurbished in a two colour paint / powder coat finish to replicate the original diamond cut finish. To achieve a diamond cut look with two different colours of paint / powder coat it’d be necessary paint / powder coat the entire wheel in one colour first, and I suspect that accurate masking each wheel to cover those parts that are to remain in the first colour before applying the second colour would be quite time consuming (and time costs money). If short cuts were taken on the masking up, the end result could be paint bleed under the edge of the masking tape, and crooked lines between black and silver sections on the wheel.
That’s why these two tone wheels are almost always diamond cut - it’s much quicker / more time efficient for the wheel refurbishing company to paint / powder coat an entire wheel and then remove paint from the face by re-cutting the face back to bare metal on a lathe than it would be to paint, mask up, and then repaint.
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Thanks everyone, appreciate your help.
The wheels are mint apart from 2 of them having patches of corrosion starting to show. I can only assume that the laquer has got chipped & salt etc has got underneath & started the corrosion process.
I think it's well documented that diamond cut alloys are hard work & once the surface lacquer is broken is only going to go one way. I've had a A Class Merc last & before that a Seat Leon, both with diamond cut alloys both with corrosion issues.
My GTI is a Dec 17 plate so did consider approaching the dealer about them but experience tells me they will just weasel out of any claim.
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Wouldn't go black for Brescia. What about shadow chrome? Saw a thread on Pretorias in that finish and they look great. Could be an option? Can't find the link now but think Lepsons do shadow chrome.
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Cheers guys. I'll check out that shadow chrome, decided whatever I go with blacks not for me.
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Personally I'd pack them away and keep them until you come to sell the car. Most secondhand buyers will probably accept that corrosion is the norm, and if yours haven't got too bad yet, they'll more than likely think they are pretty good.
There are quite a few really nice aftermarket wheels that suit the Golf really well. It would be nice to make your car personal to you, but be able to revert it back to standard to appeal to more people when you sell it.
Despite the initial outlay of new wheels, if you look after them, you'll be able to sell them on and recoup some money. If they depreciate by the amount of money you'll spend on a refurb/colour change, you've lost nothing. If you have another Golf that you might like to fit them on, it will save you the £1000+ wheel 'upgrade' option.
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Personally I'd pack them away and keep them until you come to sell the car. Most secondhand buyers will probably accept that corrosion is the norm, and if yours haven't got too bad yet, they'll more than likely think they are pretty good.
There are quite a few really nice aftermarket wheels that suit the Golf really well. It would be nice to make your car personal to you, but be able to revert it back to standard to appeal to more people when you sell it.
Despite the initial outlay of new wheels, if you look after them, you'll be able to sell them on and recoup some money. If they depreciate by the amount of money you'll spend on a refurb/colour change, you've lost nothing. If you have another Golf that you might like to fit them on, it will save you the £1000+ wheel 'upgrade' option.
That's a good point.
Think these would look good.
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Personally I'd pack them away and keep them until you come to sell the car. Most secondhand buyers will probably accept that corrosion is the norm, and if yours haven't got too bad yet, they'll more than likely think they are pretty good.
There are quite a few really nice aftermarket wheels that suit the Golf really well. It would be nice to make your car personal to you, but be able to revert it back to standard to appeal to more people when you sell it.
Despite the initial outlay of new wheels, if you look after them, you'll be able to sell them on and recoup some money. If they depreciate by the amount of money you'll spend on a refurb/colour change, you've lost nothing. If you have another Golf that you might like to fit them on, it will save you the £1000+ wheel 'upgrade' option.
This is what I did with my mk6 Golf GTD - diamond cut wheels put into storage and a set of VW Rotary’s in anthracite grey powder coat fitted. I traded in my Golf against my current Polo GTI and I’ve done the same - I have the original diamond cut alloys in storage to put back on the car when the time comes to sell it. The Polo GTI is wearing a set of anthracite coloured powder coated VW Motorsport alloys.
Interestingly, when I came to part with the GTD, the VW dealer didn’t want it with the VW Rotary alloys fitted - they wanted the original diamond cut wheels put back on. I had no problem selling the VW Rotary alloys though.
So to the OP; bear in mind that if you part ex your current car against another VW in a few years time, if you’ve changed the finish of the original wheels, it could impact the amount the dealer offers you - of course, there are other options for selling your car (Tootle, private sale etc.), where the buyer might not care whether the wheels are diamond cut or powder coated / painted.
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Cheers guys. All very valid points & plenty to think about.
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Would putting alternative 19" or even 18" wheels be a straightforward swap over or would other things need to be altered etc?
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It's not as straightforward as the diameter of the wheel. You also need to consider wheel width, weight, offset and bolt pattern. Best to stick as close to OEM as possible.
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Similar to the photos of Santiagos on here, I’d say the Brescias would look good painted in shadow chrome.
Aftermarket wheels for Golfs are easy enough to find but few styles suit the shape of the car really well which is why most people stick with OEM.
5x112 mm PCD, 57.1mm centre bore
ET between 50 and 40 for 8” (can go 35 on rear), and circa ET45 for 8.5” with 235/35/19 tyres if going wider than 7.5J.
18” much cheaper, especially for tyres. They can look a bit small in some styles but Borbet FF1 8x18” look spot on.
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Thanks. I've now got 3 of the Bressica wheels showing corrosion. I've been to VW Dealership where someone from the services desk looked at it (not even from their body shop)& said one wheel has a small chip in it, nowhere near the corrosion & he said the other wheel "looks" like it's been painted!! It's all just bs, I've had it from Mercedes on my last car & it's any excuse they can come up with to get out of a claim & how can you argue without taking it to court etc. Anyway after careful consideration I've decided I'm having all 4 wheels powder coated in Flash Chrome.if it effects the value of the car later down the line be so be it. But I carnt afford to buy a spare set of wheels & tyres & store the originals for however long I keep the car & I can't be doing with having the wheels recut every year or so. Was a bit concerned about having the wheels refurbished would invalidate the warranty but hopefully apart from the warranty on the wheels (which hasn't been any good for me anyway) I should be ok. I'll probably find the VW Warranty on the whole car will be invalid because I had the wheels refurbished knowing my luck.
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You haven't got a warranty on the wheels anyway or they would have agreed to replace them today for you. Getting them refurbed or done a different colour won't affect anything else on your car.
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If you've got corrosion nowhere near a chip and no pathways of corrosion from the chip, they're just shirking their responsibilities to place a claim for you.
My local dealership (Lookers) does this, either can't be bothered with potentially contentious warranty claims or are scared that they won't get reimbursed.
An experience with Lookers warranty avoidance drove me away from them for buying my cars.
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Cheers guys.
My experience is that when a dealer is a franchise the manufacturer has no control over them. The dealer is always concerned that if they authorise any warranty claim & carry out the work & the manufacturer doesn't agree with their decision they won't pay the dealership & as such the dealership are reluctant to authorise warranty claims for the fear of not being reimbursed by the manufacturer later down the line.
When you contact the manufacturer direct they say they can't make a decision on anything because their "dealers" are their eyes & ears & they can only be guided by their findings. The dealer will claim that their hands are tied because the manufacturer makes the rules.
You are left as piggy in the middle being passed between them, each blaming the other.....what's the answer....dammed if I know. Lol.
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Dealers always have to get warranty work authorised from VW before doing any warranty work.