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« Reply #40 on: 13 December 2016, 19:12 »
Main dealers offering unobtainable cars priced at over list doesn't seem ethical to me, best left to opportunist private flippers and "specialist" used car dealers?

You don't think the manufacturer should benefit for the excellent car they have made?

If they don't mark it up, someone else will and the hard nosed world of car retailing that aint gonna happen.

Huh, so why not let the dealers sell all that way?
As I said it's down to ethics and better to sell the car to enthusiasts who will use rather than flip the car. there must be 10% of Uk CS-S allocation available for sale at the moment.

In total agreement with you - you do not expect official retail channels which have a monopoly on initial supply to hike the prices beyond RRP.

Imagine the uproar if ToysRus/Smyths etc hiked the price of the Christmas "must have" toy that is in short supply (hatchimals this year?) because they were the only outlets that had them.

VW dealerships should not be operating like a cartel.

The dealer is clearly responding to the market of overs not making it as it was there well before this car was on sale.
Are you assuming the dealer ordered it to sell for overs because the likelihood is a private punter has ordered it, registered it and sold it to the dealer or they have it on SOR?
Should they say no to it and let the profit go elsewhere, possibly even to a rival VW dealership?

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« Reply #41 on: 13 December 2016, 19:19 »
Volkswizard: Someone will flip if they can, but for a VW dealership to do it is unethical in my book. You don't expect opportunism overpricing from the official/sole outlet network for a product.

Is the availability of this product allocation down to a lack of demand? If so, i'm sure we'll see these asking prices soften - asking price and selling price are 2 different things. At some point, without a punter, the dealership will have to register the car and it'll no longer be new.
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« Reply #42 on: 13 December 2016, 19:33 »
Volkswizard: Someone will flip if they can, but for a VW dealership to do it is unethical in my book. You don't expect opportunism overpricing from the official/sole outlet network for a product.

Is the availability of this product allocation down to a lack of demand? If so, i'm sure we'll see these asking prices soften - asking price and selling price are 2 different things. At some point, without a punter, the dealership will have to register the car and it'll no longer be new.
You are missing my point, suppose the car IS registered to a punter who has decided to flip.
No VW dealer should have ordered without a customer name, some have lost their allocation trying to cheat this.
If this car is unregistered then I agree that's wrong but if the private owner wants out and offers it to the supplying dealer who they have used for years I honestly can't see the harm in it.
If the dealer offers them £32k and sells for £33995 and that buyer flips it for £45k is that really a better solution?

The buyer may have lost his job and need to sell and the dealer has to value it at the market rate or risk being criticised for not doing so

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« Reply #43 on: 13 December 2016, 20:08 »
Volkswizard, nothing you have said justifies main dealers charging overs.

I know the bad feeling this has created in the Porsche network, still it has helped Mclaren sales.

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« Reply #44 on: 13 December 2016, 20:17 »
Volkswizard, nothing you have said justifies main dealers charging overs.

I know the bad feeling this has created in the Porsche network, still it has helped Mclaren sales.

So just remind me why it's OK for others to do it and not the main dealer?

The Toys R Us comparison is moot as they don't sell second hand items (if the car has been registered it is now second hand, the ordering process should have ensured this, if it's unregistered then VW need to look into it).

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« Reply #45 on: 13 December 2016, 20:21 »
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« Reply #46 on: 13 December 2016, 20:30 »
Volkswizard, nothing you have said justifies main dealers charging overs.

I know the bad feeling this has created in the Porsche network, still it has helped Mclaren sales.

So just remind me why it's OK for others to do it and not the main dealer?

The Toys R Us comparison is moot as they don't sell second hand items (if the car has been registered it is now second hand, the ordering process should have ensured this, if it's unregistered then VW need to look into it).

This is getting a little pointless, the answer to bad feeling created you quoted, was above the question you asked.
If you struggle with this from an ethical point of view, that's fine.
Those of us who are regulated on financial transactions and members of professional bodies clearly choose to operate to higher code of standards.   :smiley:

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« Reply #47 on: 13 December 2016, 21:09 »
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Volkswizard, nothing you have said justifies main dealers charging overs.

I know the bad feeling this has created in the Porsche network, still it has helped Mclaren sales.

So just remind me why it's OK for others to do it and not the main dealer?

The Toys R Us comparison is moot as they don't sell second hand items (if the car has been registered it is now second hand, the ordering process should have ensured this, if it's unregistered then VW need to look into it).

This is getting a little pointless, the answer to bad feeling created you quoted, was above the question you asked.
If you struggle with this from an ethical point of view, that's fine.
Those of us who are regulated on financial transactions and members of professional bodies clearly choose to operate to higher code of standards.   :smiley:

Oh yes of course, bankers, estate agents, all famously ethical  :smiley:

I don't think there are any areas of big business that are ethical that's why companies that are ethical make a big song and dance about it like Co-operative Bank and the Body Shop.

I realise it's futile trying to argue that the motor industry is ethical because it's far too competitive a market for them to prioritise that just look at dieselgate.

So I guess we agree actually agree in that it's not right, my point is that it's not exactly surprising.

« Last Edit: 14 December 2016, 07:33 by volkswizard »

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« Reply #48 on: 13 December 2016, 21:21 »
As dealers we were never allowed to charge overs

My mate emailed over 100 dealers several weeks ago and 2 dealers came back to him regarding cancelled orders, 1 of these dealers were Drift Bridge who said they had a cancelled order on a black car, they also offered me a red one... the salesman hadn't realised we knew one another and proceeded to give us the same story.. at the point of paying a deposit we were told that they weren't cancelled orders and that we had to "bid" on the cars...

My friend (who's a member on here) heard from from another dealer and placed a deposit with them instead. I do believe there was a rabbit off somewhere with Drift Bridge..
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« Reply #49 on: 14 December 2016, 14:16 »
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