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Title: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: CarbonGTD on 30 November 2020, 13:52
Please someone put me straight if I have any of this incorrect, but at a quick look this morning it seems like the new Skoda Octavia vRS 245PS petrol comes with 19 inch alloys as standard (not 18s like the Mk 8 Golf GTI) plus it seems to have physical buttons on the steering wheel (not stupid shiny plastic swipe pads) and even has two gas struts to hold the bonnet up?? Plus is circa £4k cheaper list?  I have all this wrong, right?

Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 30 November 2020, 14:11
You are correct. There are some swings and roundabouts on spec though. For example vRS doesn't get the heated steering wheel or travel assist, which are both standard on the GTi.

Having said that though, I do think the vRS is better value for money than the GTi. It's only the petrol where there is a big difference in list price. The diesel and hybrid versions are more closely priced. 
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 02 December 2020, 00:13
Autogefuhl video review of the Octavia vRS here. Looks like it has similar traits to the GTi.

i.e.Thomas doesn't like the touchscreen or the harder ride.

https://youtu.be/AiY67TQr0PM
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: CarbonGTD on 02 December 2020, 12:39
Good spot Guzzle - thanks for posting link
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Exonian on 02 December 2020, 13:02
Just sat watching Thomas in his pimp suit driving the vRS now myself.
I’m not sold on the exterior of the Octy but it’d probably look loads better with some different wheels. At least it doesn’t look as divisive as a mk8 but more in keeping with that car’s more conservative target market.
The interior detailing looks really nice however.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 02 December 2020, 13:23
Yeah the wheels in the video are non-standard 18 inch wheels from a lower spec model. In the UK we get these 19's as standard

(https://i.postimg.cc/y6hQbMV5/Eo-Ef091-W4-AYRs4d.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

There's also a more interesting choice of colours for the vRS than what VW offers for the GTi.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Exonian on 02 December 2020, 13:31
Ahh, that looks loads better and dare I say it maybe even an improvement on its handsome predecessor.
I particularly like the front end unlike its German hatchback cousin...

Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: SRGTD on 02 December 2020, 13:38
Ahh, that looks loads better and dare I say it maybe even an improvement on its handsome predecessor.
I particularly like the front end unlike its German hatchback cousin...

I’m with you on the Octavia VRS looks Exonian. To me, it looks quite Audi-esque from the rear, and unlike the mk8 Golf, the Octavia gets two gas struts for the bonnet too :smiley:.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 02 December 2020, 13:43
I've not had chance to sit in the new model yet, but the interior quality does seem a step up on the Mk3 vRS I had before my 7.5 Golf. Whereas VW and Audi quality looks like it's heading in the opposite direction  :nerd:

The Octavia also has the tray in the dashboard under the headlight switch that's been omitted from the Golf Mk8. No daft swiping on the steering wheel either; proper buttons 👍
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Exonian on 02 December 2020, 14:29
I had a quick look at one of the first new A3’s to arrive at dealerships back in the summer and was surprised at the level of quality (or lack of) when I spotted it by chance after having had to pop into VW which was just across the road.
My son then took one out on test drive and subsequently ordered one to lease. Like the Mercedes Megane (sorry, A Class) I think that’s the target audience now, millennials sucked in by the badge.

The Skoda has to earn its sales volumes fighting against the trendy badges so is surprisingly good quality even if not the bargain it once was. And I think that’s smart marketing being cheaper but not cheap yet well built and well appointed, aimed at a different (more mature) clientele.

Goes to show VW group *can* still do it if they want to.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 December 2020, 10:53
Carwow review is up on the vRS. Can't actually believe how sh*t it sounds at 5:35. My 330e sounds beefier than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHOTYw57TZg
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 04 December 2020, 13:02
Carwow review is up on the vRS. Can't actually believe how sh*t it sounds at 5:35. My 330e sounds beefier than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHOTYw57TZg

I'm pleased it sounds like that. People don't buy cars like that for noise.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 December 2020, 13:22
Carwow review is up on the vRS. Can't actually believe how sh*t it sounds at 5:35. My 330e sounds beefier than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHOTYw57TZg

I'm pleased it sounds like that. People don't buy cars like that for noise.

Cars like what? The sports version of a boring hatch. Of course they want some noise. And they can get a rattly 4 pot diesel if they are really dull.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 04 December 2020, 13:32
Carwow review is up on the vRS. Can't actually believe how sh*t it sounds at 5:35. My 330e sounds beefier than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHOTYw57TZg

I'm pleased it sounds like that. People don't buy cars like that for noise.

Cars like what? The sports version of a boring hatch. Of course they want some noise. And they can get a rattly 4 pot diesel if they are really dull.

Plenty aftermarket options if it bothers people that much. It's a hot hatch for grown ups and on that score the Octavia has got far more going for it than a hooligan exhaust note.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 December 2020, 14:20
Carwow review is up on the vRS. Can't actually believe how sh*t it sounds at 5:35. My 330e sounds beefier than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHOTYw57TZg

I'm pleased it sounds like that. People don't buy cars like that for noise.

Cars like what? The sports version of a boring hatch. Of course they want some noise. And they can get a rattly 4 pot diesel if they are really dull.

Plenty aftermarket options if it bothers people that much. It's a hot hatch for grown ups and on that score the Octavia has got far more going for it than a hooligan exhaust note.

Needs to sound good though. And it doesn't. Not about being a hooligan.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 04 December 2020, 15:13
We obviously differ on what we prioritise in a hot hatch. To me that sounds fine. I'm not interested in pops and bangs. I'm more bothered about decent pace and keen handling without being loud and crashy.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 December 2020, 15:53
We obviously differ on what we prioritise in a hot hatch. To me that sounds fine. I'm not interested in pops and bangs. I'm more bothered about decent pace and keen handling without being loud and crashy.

You do have a GTD though so I would imagine any petrol engine would sound good  :grin:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 04 December 2020, 16:04
Well sounding good is subjective. Some think that gangsta rap sounds good, whereas to me it sounds like angry people cussing.

I've no issue with a bit of growl under acceleration. Pops and bangs? No thanks.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 04 December 2020, 17:05
Well sounding good is subjective. Some think that gangsta rap sounds good, whereas to me it sounds like angry people cussing.

I've no issue with a bit of growl under acceleration. Pops and bangs? No thanks.

I do know what you mean. But the Mk7.5 GTI P sounds beefy though, a nice deep noise whereas that vRS just sounds a bit crap.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 04 December 2020, 17:19
Doesn't matter to me. I'd rather listen to the radio than listen to the exhaust   :whistle:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: P6GTD on 04 December 2020, 22:31
Looking at pics of the Vrs, am I alone in being utterly baffled by, and repulsed by, square and rectangular exhaust pipe “holes” ( real or fake)?

From VAG to MB via Volvo ...... just why?

Even when the pipes are genuine, which is not often, they look utter crap.

Worse still, the multitude of cars that have a styling nod to such things incorporated into the rear styling, ( yes you VW amongst other culprits)..... WTAF?

Square and rectangular exhaust rant now over!
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Watts on 05 December 2020, 09:58
Looking at pics of the Vrs, am I alone in being utterly baffled by, and repulsed by, square and rectangular exhaust pipe “holes” ( real or fake)?

From VAG to MB via Volvo ...... just why?

Even when the pipes are genuine, which is not often, they look utter crap.

Worse still, the multitude of cars that have a styling nod to such things incorporated into the rear styling, ( yes you VW amongst other culprits)..... WTAF?

Square and rectangular exhaust rant now over!

I'm with you 100% on that, utter rubbish. Especially when you can see the real pipe behind them pointing down on a diesel.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 05 December 2020, 11:07
Looking at pics of the Vrs, am I alone in being utterly baffled by, and repulsed by, square and rectangular exhaust pipe “holes” ( real or fake)?

From VAG to MB via Volvo ...... just why?

Even when the pipes are genuine, which is not often, they look utter crap.

Worse still, the multitude of cars that have a styling nod to such things incorporated into the rear styling, ( yes you VW amongst other culprits)..... WTAF?

Square and rectangular exhaust rant now over!

I'm with you 100% on that, utter rubbish. Especially when you can see the real pipe behind them pointing down on a diesel.

Definitely seemed to be a trend that has gathered a lot of momentum in the last few years. My 2015 C200 had them, with the real exhausts behind but at least it had real ones in there as the C220d had the same rectangle exhausts but blocked off with just an exhaust on one side! Think even the C63 has just 4 square exhausts with the actual round pipes sat behind.

Quite happy BMW manage to fit proper exhausts even to their hybrids!  :smiley:

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1r8LXd5/Screenshot-2020-12-05-at-11-04-57.png) (https://postimg.cc/3dB3TJm0)
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: p3asa on 05 December 2020, 11:19

Quite happy BMW manage to fit proper exhausts even to their hybrids!  :smiley:




The 2 series now has rectangular exhausts on some of its models  :cry:
No doubt it will start to sweep through the rest of them.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: p3asa on 05 December 2020, 11:26

You do have a GTD though so I would imagine any petrol engine would sound good  :grin:


Interestingly the best sound I've ever had on any of my Golfs was the GTD with the sight and sound pack. It had a lovely growl.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 05 December 2020, 11:38
There is more to a car you know than exhaust pipes.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 05 December 2020, 17:25

You do have a GTD though so I would imagine any petrol engine would sound good  :grin:


Interestingly the best sound I've ever had on any of my Golfs was the GTD with the sight and sound pack. It had a lovely growl.

Fake noise! Don't think it's possible to make a 4 pot diesel sound good.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: p3asa on 07 December 2020, 17:09
I didn't say it wasn't fake.
Just my opinion. Its been the best sounding out the 3 performance Golfs
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: fredgroves on 07 December 2020, 17:58
You'll love this then.... from an article I read today on the new Qashqai:

"In order to make the car sound more premium, Nissan has teamed up with famed videogame brand Bandai Namco to create the car's internal noises."

Real-Life-Ridge-Racer(tm) or something  :laugh:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: P6GTD on 07 December 2020, 22:15
Sooooo, I think we are all agreed.
Honest round visible pipes making a non- electronic noise are the only real deal.
Ayethankyaw!
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: p3asa on 08 December 2020, 09:28
You'll love this then.... from an article I read today on the new Qashqai:

"In order to make the car sound more premium, Nissan has teamed up with famed videogame brand Bandai Namco to create the car's internal noises."

Real-Life-Ridge-Racer(tm) or something  :laugh:


The sound pack on the GTD was an external noise. It had a chamber somewhere before the back box.
I'm not keen on the fake internal sounds.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: fredgroves on 08 December 2020, 09:38
Don't electric cars have to have an external noise generator now? for speeds up to 50kph or something?
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: SRGTD on 08 December 2020, 09:46
Don't electric cars have to have an external noise generator now? for speeds up to 50kph or something?

I believe they do, so that pedestrians are aware of their presence.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 08 December 2020, 10:44
You'll love this then.... from an article I read today on the new Qashqai:

"In order to make the car sound more premium, Nissan has teamed up with famed videogame brand Bandai Namco to create the car's internal noises."

Real-Life-Ridge-Racer(tm) or something  :laugh:

Fake external noise generator. Diesel SQ5 has the same. Beefy but fake which just isn't right.


Don't electric cars have to have an external noise generator now? for speeds up to 50kph or something?

Yes, my 330e makes a 'noise' when in electric mode. Can't really describe it but BMW says its unique to their hybrid range.

I believe they do, so that pedestrians are aware of their presence.

The sound pack on the GTD was an external noise. It had a chamber somewhere before the back box.
I'm not keen on the fake internal sounds.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 08 December 2020, 10:46
Sooooo, I think we are all agreed.
Honest round visible pipes making a non- electronic noise are the only real deal.
Ayethankyaw!

I think oval ones are perfectly OK as well! The RS3 has a lovely set of oval pipes and makes a fantastic noise from it's 5 pot. 
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: fredgroves on 08 December 2020, 10:59
You know that the EU made them all reduce exhaust noise last year?

The M135i that I test drove end of 2019 used to make a lovely sound.... from early 2020 models, the sound was gone.

The 128ti I went to see also doesn't have an exhaust note of any note.

Thanks Brussells.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 08 December 2020, 11:36
The EU are cracking down on both noise and light pollution. So it's goodbye to unnecessarily loud exhausts and decorative lights.

They recently banned the illuminated flying lady on Rolls Royce's.

They're a fun bunch aren't they?
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: SRGTD on 08 December 2020, 13:21
The EU are cracking down on both noise and light pollution. So it's goodbye to unnecessarily loud exhausts and decorative lights.

They recently banned the illuminated flying lady on Rolls Royce's.

They're a fun bunch aren't they?

Shame they’ve not banned the illuminated strip that runs along the top of the grille on the mk8 Golf. IMO that’s purely decorative and serves no useful purpose :whistle:.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 10 December 2020, 09:00
You know that the EU made them all reduce exhaust noise last year?

The M135i that I test drove end of 2019 used to make a lovely sound.... from early 2020 models, the sound was gone.

The 128ti I went to see also doesn't have an exhaust note of any note.

Thanks Brussells.

Yes, they all mostly sound crap don’t they. Carwow did the M135/A35/new S3 and they all sounded really disappointing on the sound check.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: fredgroves on 10 December 2020, 10:00
I think its to stop any enthusiasm for dinosaur burning vs EV's.

Make them all sound the same, no hankering for something that goes broooom brooooooom  :whistle:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 10 December 2020, 11:54
Lease cost comparison

Petrol

VW Golf GTi DSG
3 year lease @ 10k miles p.a.
6+35 @ £340.43 per month
Standard colour Pure White
Total lease cost = £13,957.63

Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0 TSi DSG Hatch
3 year lease @ 10k miles p.a.
6+35 @ £297.32 per month
Standard colour Meteor Grey
Total lease cost = £12,190.12

Octavia is £1,767.51 cheaper than the Golf

Diesel

VW Golf GTD DSG
3 year lease @10k miles p.a.
6+35 @ £300.88 per month
Standard colour Pure White
Total lease cost = £12,336.08

Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0 TDi DSG Hatch
3 year lease @10k miles p.a.
6+35 @ £304.66 per month
Standard colour Meteor Grey
Total lease cost = £12,491.06

Golf is £154.98 cheaper than the Octavia.

All prices from What Car Leasing.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Ubique on 12 December 2020, 09:18
https://youtu.be/sOks5XgMlvw

GTI vs ST vs VRS Drag race, quite funny and a bit of a result.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 12 December 2020, 12:02
Didn't realise the ST was such a pudding.   :shocked:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Yusee on 12 December 2020, 13:33
Why is he always doing these drag races? What can a drag race tell you that a quick glance at a stats sheet can't?
I just googled him- he's from Walsall.
That would explain it.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 12 December 2020, 15:42
That's the sort of thing YouTuber's do, innit?  :cool:

But I agree, they're of little help in the real world.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Yusee on 12 December 2020, 17:50
To his credit he's smart, he understands his market and he entertains.
I suppose I just struggle to understand where the fun is.
Everyone seems to want cars to make them go as fast as possible- launch control, drag races, electronic wizardry to make you "drift".
Does nobody enjoy driving cars anymore?
It's like sitting in a roller coaster- bit of a thrill the first time. Second time quite fun. After that, just boring.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 13 December 2020, 14:45
Why is he always doing these drag races? What can a drag race tell you that a quick glance at a stats sheet can't?
I just googled him- he's from Walsall.
That would explain it.

They are just some fun entertainment and they get an average of over a million views on every video so no doubt earning some good revenue from their YT channel.

Mat is funny and honest, he says what he does and doesn't like about the cars in the reviews as well.

Interesting that the Focus was so slow with supposedly 280bhp. And also that the new GTI did the 1/4 mile in 14.1 in cold winter conditions compared to the Mk7.5 GTI Performance which was 14.5 in the summer.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: SRGTD on 13 December 2020, 15:36
I enjoy Mat Watson’s videos, and his honest approach - saying what he thinks whether it pleases or not, and not feeling the need to suck up to the car manufacturers.

The videos with his mother in the car - as a nervous passenger or when she’s in the driver’s seat - are quite entertaining :grin:. She’s probably one of a small number of elderly ladies who’ve used launch control in a performance car!
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Yusee on 13 December 2020, 16:43
Yes, you’re both right about his videos.
I’m at that age where I’m starting to moan about stuff!
The interesting thing for me is the weight of the gti- seems a fair bit heavier than the outgoing model.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: fredgroves on 13 December 2020, 17:58
I suspect the gti was quicker than the old one due to the new high pressure injectors changing the power curve quite a bit. This is no longer the same.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Watts on 13 December 2020, 18:12
I’m at that age where I’m starting to moan about stuff!

I was born at that age!
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Yusee on 13 December 2020, 18:29
I’m at that age where I’m starting to moan about stuff!

I was born at that age!

Haha, yeah, so was i. At least as a newborn you just accept it!
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: david25 on 17 December 2020, 08:00
CVL VRS leasing 24 months with 1 month initial payment

£335 8000 miles to £418 20000 miles per year
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: fredgroves on 17 December 2020, 08:11
That's a good price on the vrs!

I've not looked at what you'd ideally want to add to base configuration though. That's where leases get expensive.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 18 December 2020, 00:03
About £70 per month over 24 months for HUD and DCC, or £45 per month over 36 months.

19's are the standard (only) wheel and the 'free' colour is Dr Evil Grey. Heated seats are standard, heated steering wheel is optional extra. 
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 13 March 2021, 10:35
Thought I would post the Volkswizard comparison video here for ease of reference  :smiley:


https://youtu.be/T-lQ5zBIz7M
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Exonian on 15 March 2021, 12:23
Finally had enough time to sit and watch that vid this morning.
The vRS looks like it’s still a great option for a sporty mile muncher.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 15 March 2021, 13:14
The fact that Volkswizard went out and bought a Clubsport over a regular GTi told me from the first moment that he was never going to be a massive fan of the Octavia. It's just not the kind of machine aimed at people that want a Clubsport.

I can't speak for the latest gen cars as covid has got in the way of me seeing them, but having had both a Mk3 vRS and a Mk7.5 Golf, I can tell you that the vRS is a damn fine car. It's a bit of a shame that so many people are still put off by the image.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Exonian on 16 March 2021, 14:58
People are put off by image because Škoda market them that way.
VW group politics. It wasn’t always that way.

The Octy is too big for me, in fact the Golf is too and if you’d ever seen me try and park mine you’d appreciate why!

Rewind to 2003. Hot Golfs weren’t hot until VW suddenly dropped the expensive R32 on us.
Golf GTI’s were really GT Line cars back then.
I’d grown bored of tuning mk1 and mk2 Golfs, the VR6 lacked much options for tweaking and so I’d gotten into tuning Diesels which was catching on over the other side of the channel around the turn of the century.
The go to performance cars in the VW group weren’t VW’s. The Ibiza and Leon Cupras, the S3 and... the Octy vRS. These cars had image.
 Then the epiphany that was the Fabia vRS TDI 130 broke cover in 2003 instantly becoming the GR Yaris of its day in cult car status.
These vRS cars were cool, they had street cred amongst the switched on.

Someone in a grey suit took notice at VW HQ around the same time they realised Ford was running rings around VW hatches so they poured a load of money into the Mk5 GTI development then instantly dumbed down the in house non-German marques who were eclipsing the parent company in image.


On another note, Andrew makes a big issue about the stop start button location in the Octavia.
What he doesn’t realise is that the VW ID models have the button in the same place as the Octy. The electric cars that are the next generation, not the end of the last.
Mind you it’s most likely a cost cutting issue as the ID’s are low rent inside.

Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: fredgroves on 16 March 2021, 15:16
I watched the CarWow piece on the ID4 earlier.

What you can very clearly see is VAG's go forward concept copy and pasted across the range.

They've always done it of course, but this generational gap is a big one.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Kpow99 on 16 March 2021, 18:49
Really not keen on the interior of the VRS, Golf all the way lol
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: SRGTD on 16 March 2021, 19:11
Really not keen on the interior of the VRS, Golf all the way lol

I actually like it, although I’m not sure about the alcantara covered dashboard panel. Looking at the panel above the two centre air vents, Skoda have retained more physical buttons (there’s space for 10). Maybe the majority are hot keys for direct access to sub menus on the infotainment screen rather than buttons for specific functions, but whatever they are, it probably makes it easier to alter things / switch things on and off while on the move.

I see the sliding cover over the cup holders has been retained in the Octavia too...........and it gets two gas struts under the bonnet rather than having to make do with a manual prop :smiley:.

(https://i.postimg.cc/28HyCK4j/99-E7-A295-BC50-4-E9-E-9-AD1-4503-ADE132-C9.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Watts on 16 March 2021, 19:19
Really not keen on the interior of the VRS, Golf all the way lol

Same here, nor the exterior and I'm not being snobby. The Seats/Cupras are much better looking.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Kpow99 on 17 March 2021, 00:05
Really not keen on the interior of the VRS, Golf all the way lol

I actually like it, although I’m not sure about the alcantara covered dashboard panel. Looking at the panel above the two centre air vents, Skoda have retained more physical buttons (there’s space for 10). Maybe the majority are hot keys for direct access to sub menus on the infotainment screen rather than buttons for specific functions, but whatever they are, it probably makes it easier to alter things / switch things on and off while on the move.

I see the sliding cover over the cup holders has been retained in the Octavia too...........and it gets two gas struts under the bonnet rather than having to make do with a manual prop :smiley:.

(https://i.postimg.cc/28HyCK4j/99-E7-A295-BC50-4-E9-E-9-AD1-4503-ADE132-C9.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Did you watch Volkswizard video on it?! The buttons sound really plastic and cheap, terrible click and the infotainment screen too far away to reach properly lol

But then I have a TCR so interior is a little better...well...a lot IMO  :grin:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 17 March 2021, 00:23
Really not keen on the interior of the VRS, Golf all the way lol

I actually like it, although I’m not sure about the alcantara covered dashboard panel. Looking at the panel above the two centre air vents, Skoda have retained more physical buttons (there’s space for 10). Maybe the majority are hot keys for direct access to sub menus on the infotainment screen rather than buttons for specific functions, but whatever they are, it probably makes it easier to alter things / switch things on and off while on the move.

I see the sliding cover over the cup holders has been retained in the Octavia too...........and it gets two gas struts under the bonnet rather than having to make do with a manual prop :smiley:.

(https://i.postimg.cc/28HyCK4j/99-E7-A295-BC50-4-E9-E-9-AD1-4503-ADE132-C9.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Did you watch Volkswizard video on it?! The buttons sound really plastic and cheap, terrible click and the infotainment screen too far away to reach properly lol

But then I have a TCR so interior is a little better...well...a lot IMO  :grin:

We had months on here of people complaining about the Golf because it had no buttons on the dash. The Octavia has buttons on the dash and now people are complaining because they don't make the right noise when they're pressed.  :rolleyes:

I've had both a 7.5 Golf and a Mk3 Octavia, and yes the interior is a little nicer in the Golf (apart from the seats), but so it should be given the difference in price. The Octavia is screwed together every bit as well as the Golf, the Golf just has a few higher grade bits of plastic, that's all.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Kpow99 on 17 March 2021, 08:17
Really not keen on the interior of the VRS, Golf all the way lol

I actually like it, although I’m not sure about the alcantara covered dashboard panel. Looking at the panel above the two centre air vents, Skoda have retained more physical buttons (there’s space for 10). Maybe the majority are hot keys for direct access to sub menus on the infotainment screen rather than buttons for specific functions, but whatever they are, it probably makes it easier to alter things / switch things on and off while on the move.

I see the sliding cover over the cup holders has been retained in the Octavia too...........and it gets two gas struts under the bonnet rather than having to make do with a manual prop :smiley:.

(https://i.postimg.cc/28HyCK4j/99-E7-A295-BC50-4-E9-E-9-AD1-4503-ADE132-C9.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Did you watch Volkswizard video on it?! The buttons sound really plastic and cheap, terrible click and the infotainment screen too far away to reach properly lol

But then I have a TCR so interior is a little better...well...a lot IMO  :grin:

We had months on here of people complaining about the Golf because it had no buttons on the dash. The Octavia has buttons on the dash and now people are complaining because they don't make the right noise when they're pressed.  :rolleyes:

I've had both a 7.5 Golf and a Mk3 Octavia, and yes the interior is a little nicer in the Golf (apart from the seats), but so it should be given the difference in price. The Octavia is screwed together every bit as well as the Golf, the Golf just has a few higher grade bits of plastic, that's all.

Well it wasn't me here complaining about buttons pal, I'm just saying from watching the video they don't have the quality of the Golf imo so no need to roll your eyes at me!  Go fill your boots with your Octavia and join their forum  :grin:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 17 March 2021, 09:28
Really not keen on the interior of the VRS, Golf all the way lol

I actually like it, although I’m not sure about the alcantara covered dashboard panel. Looking at the panel above the two centre air vents, Skoda have retained more physical buttons (there’s space for 10). Maybe the majority are hot keys for direct access to sub menus on the infotainment screen rather than buttons for specific functions, but whatever they are, it probably makes it easier to alter things / switch things on and off while on the move.

I see the sliding cover over the cup holders has been retained in the Octavia too...........and it gets two gas struts under the bonnet rather than having to make do with a manual prop :smiley:.

(https://i.postimg.cc/28HyCK4j/99-E7-A295-BC50-4-E9-E-9-AD1-4503-ADE132-C9.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Did you watch Volkswizard video on it?! The buttons sound really plastic and cheap, terrible click and the infotainment screen too far away to reach properly lol

But then I have a TCR so interior is a little better...well...a lot IMO  :grin:

We had months on here of people complaining about the Golf because it had no buttons on the dash. The Octavia has buttons on the dash and now people are complaining because they don't make the right noise when they're pressed.  :rolleyes:

I've had both a 7.5 Golf and a Mk3 Octavia, and yes the interior is a little nicer in the Golf (apart from the seats), but so it should be given the difference in price. The Octavia is screwed together every bit as well as the Golf, the Golf just has a few higher grade bits of plastic, that's all.

Well it wasn't me here complaining about buttons pal, I'm just saying from watching the video they don't have the quality of the Golf imo so no need to roll your eyes at me!  Go fill your boots with your Octavia and join their forum  :grin:  :laugh:

I have a Golf so I'll stay right here thanks.

I merely gave an opinion, same as you did, pal.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Kpow99 on 17 March 2021, 09:44
Really not keen on the interior of the VRS, Golf all the way lol

I actually like it, although I’m not sure about the alcantara covered dashboard panel. Looking at the panel above the two centre air vents, Skoda have retained more physical buttons (there’s space for 10). Maybe the majority are hot keys for direct access to sub menus on the infotainment screen rather than buttons for specific functions, but whatever they are, it probably makes it easier to alter things / switch things on and off while on the move.

I see the sliding cover over the cup holders has been retained in the Octavia too...........and it gets two gas struts under the bonnet rather than having to make do with a manual prop :smiley:.

(https://i.postimg.cc/28HyCK4j/99-E7-A295-BC50-4-E9-E-9-AD1-4503-ADE132-C9.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Did you watch Volkswizard video on it?! The buttons sound really plastic and cheap, terrible click and the infotainment screen too far away to reach properly lol

But then I have a TCR so interior is a little better...well...a lot IMO  :grin:

We had months on here of people complaining about the Golf because it had no buttons on the dash. The Octavia has buttons on the dash and now people are complaining because they don't make the right noise when they're pressed.  :rolleyes:

I've had both a 7.5 Golf and a Mk3 Octavia, and yes the interior is a little nicer in the Golf (apart from the seats), but so it should be given the difference in price. The Octavia is screwed together every bit as well as the Golf, the Golf just has a few higher grade bits of plastic, that's all.

Well it wasn't me here complaining about buttons pal, I'm just saying from watching the video they don't have the quality of the Golf imo so no need to roll your eyes at me!  Go fill your boots with your Octavia and join their forum  :grin:  :laugh:

I have a Golf so I'll stay right here thanks.

I merely gave an opinion, same as you did, pal.

"We had months on here of people complaining about the Golf because it had no buttons on the dash. The Octavia has buttons on the dash and now people are complaining because they don't make the right noise when they're pressed.  :rolleyes:" OK maybe I read wrong as not an opinion but something else, apologies.  I wasn't complaining.

It's a nice looking car generally, not bad spec for the money and agree not sure about the furry dash lol
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: fredgroves on 17 March 2021, 10:09
Is it just me or does that photo show that Skoda with a Mk7.5 style AID rather than the glitzy Mk8 one?
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 17 March 2021, 11:42

"We had months on here of people complaining about the Golf because it had no buttons on the dash. The Octavia has buttons on the dash and now people are complaining because they don't make the right noise when they're pressed.  :rolleyes:" OK maybe I read wrong as not an opinion but something else, apologies.  I wasn't complaining.

It's a nice looking car generally, not bad spec for the money and agree not sure about the furry dash lol

When I referenced 'people' I meant exactly that. It wasn't aimed at you personally, sorry if I gave you the impression that it was.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 17 March 2021, 11:44
Is it just me or does that photo show that Skoda with a Mk7.5 style AID rather than the glitzy Mk8 one?

It may well be a slightly lower grade version. Hardware looks more like the one from the Tiguan / Polo to me but with different software. However not having had chance to see it in the metal i'm not really sure.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Exonian on 17 March 2021, 14:30
I quite like the fluffy dash insert.
I quite like the Octy vRS seats too.
There are quite a lot of things I quite like about the Octavia interior tbf.
It’s also quite nice looking outside.

It’s just too darn big a car. Way too big for me.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: ar899 on 17 March 2021, 14:32
I quite like the fluffy dash insert.
I quite like the Octy vRS seats too.
There are quite a lot of things I quite like about the Octavia interior tbf.
It’s also quite nice looking outside.

It’s just too darn big a car. Way too big for me.

Thought you were writing a limerick there  :laugh:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Exonian on 17 March 2021, 14:40
Bugger, I missed adding the rhyme on the end!  :grin:

I quite like the fluffy dash insert.
I quite like the Octy vRS seats too.
There are quite a lot of things I quite like about the Octavia interior.
It’s also quite nice looking outside, but I don’t have a dog to take for a long distance poo.


Take two...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: ar899 on 17 March 2021, 14:50
  :grin: :grin: :grin: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: Guzzle on 17 March 2021, 15:25
I quite like the fluffy dash insert.
I quite like the Octy vRS seats too.
There are quite a lot of things I quite like about the Octavia interior tbf.
It’s also quite nice looking outside.

It’s just too darn big a car. Way too big for me.

From my experience the extra size is felt through the longer wheelbase. So while the front end is still quite short and pointy like the Golf, it doesn't feel quite as nimble. On a straight road though it's only really when you look in your mirrors that you realise just how long it is.
Title: Re: Octavia vRS vs Mk 8 Golf GTI
Post by: fredgroves on 17 March 2021, 15:48
Ok if we are getting all arty farty.... Haiku time:

Fluffy dash insert
Shiny buttons gleam in Spring
Not like mark eight golf