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Title: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 12 October 2019, 10:47
It's Saturday.  Which for me, is my weekly car cleaning day.  Not because I am a detailing enthusiast (I'd much rather not have to clean it at all) but because I can't stand seeing it looking dirty, particularly on the inside.  I wouldn't say I have OCD, although I'm probably borderline.  But the kick I really get out of it is each Monday morning driving to work.  When I roll it out of my garage it is just like the day I picked it up from the showroom.  So I get that warm fuzzy 'new car' feeling every single week.  And after 27 years of car ownership (the last 9 have been brand new, before that, they were all used) it's become force of habit and hard to break.

Today it's raining - which is actually a rarity where I live.  You can count the number of Saturdays that it rains on the fingers of one hand (ok, I'm from Norfolk and some of us have 6 fingers around here but you get the point).  So I'm thinking do I just hoover the inside and put it back in the garage and have a week off, with the fact that it's dirty slowly gnawing away at my inner soul all weekend... Or do I just wash it, rinse it, roll it in to the garage and dry it inside?

Which lead me to this forum and out of curiosity, wondered how often you guys clean your cars?
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: hobbes22 on 12 October 2019, 11:20
I tend to wash mine every couple of weeks, but sometimes as often as every weekend. I have had the comments like 'you'll wash the paint off' etc  :grin:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Toeman on 12 October 2019, 11:23
Keep up the cleaning  nothing like a clean hoovered car  to sit in I tend to do mine every week as well
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 12 October 2019, 11:28
I think the other benefit of cleaning once a week is that it never really gets dirty.  I've washed cars belonging to other people who might not have cleaned them for 2-3 months and it literally takes 3 or 4 times longer and still leaves lots of ingrained dirt in the crevices, grilles, alloys, door hinges etc.  I can make mine look pristine within an hour.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Jason b on 12 October 2019, 11:34
funny you should mention this as I hoped to clean mine today if I can escape from other tasks im lined up for apparently ... :sad:
I tend to do alterante outside one week then inside depending on how much i use it ..
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Dr Mike Oxgreen on 12 October 2019, 11:47
I'm in the "once per week" category, made easier because I'm semi-retired and can wash my car under cover, although I have a rule about only washing it if the outside temperature is above 7c.

I agree that a weekly clean is best, as it avoids the accumulation of crud and grime.  As I do quite a lot of my driving in and around the New Forest, and the roads are often covered with stuff which looks like mud but isn't, regular washing under the wheel arches is essential, and as I live next to Southampton Water everything becomes coated in a film of brown dust, which is diesel soot from the ships which pass nearby.  You can't have everything.

I like a nice clean car, as do most of my neighbours, but I'm almost alone in cleaning my own. Everybody else takes theirs to the local money-laundering slave traders, and has them scratch up their paintwork with their gritty sponges.  *Shudder*

Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Philip on 12 October 2019, 12:26
Every week, weather and time permitting. During the winter when the roads are salted I’ll also put it through the local ARC wash as well. The trade off between possible damage to the paint and having the underside cleaned I think is worthwhile.

We travel to Norfolk pretty much every other weekend and you’re right, it rarely rains 🙃
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 12 October 2019, 12:57
I can report the car has been cleaned inside and out, dried and garaged. I shall sleep easy tonight safe in the knowledge it will remain that way until approximately 90 seconds after driving it out of the garage on Monday morning, when I expect it’ll be just as dirty as it was before I cleaned it.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: SRGTD on 12 October 2019, 13:26
@Mutley75; I’m also from Norfolk. Being retired, I have the time to clean my car when it needs it, so don’t have a specific once a week / once a fortnight cleaning routine. I’ve not responded to your poll as there isn’t a ‘when it needs it, irrespective of when it was last washed’ option.

Edit: the above option has been added so I’ve voted now :smiley:.

I also garage my car, and being a low mileage driver - around 6k miles a year - some weeks it doesn’t get used much, so if it’s not dirty through lack of use, I don’t clean it just for the sake of it.

It does get cleaned when it needs it as I hate a dirty car. I always use a safe washing and drying method to minimise the paintwork becoming swirled. I also machine polish it if and when it needs it (last done around two years ago - planning on doing it before the winter, weather permitting), to remove any minor swirls that IMO are inevitable over time, even with a safe wash technique. Repairing paintwork chips also forms part of my car washing routine if any new chips have appeared since the previous wash - touch up paint is one of the first things I buy when I get a new car, as it’s inevitable there’ll be stone chips at some point during my ownership (the first one is always the worst :grin:).
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 12 October 2019, 13:36
That’s another good point about weekly/regular washing. You get to notice every new defect straight away and can do something about it before it gets any worse. Six months on, my GTI is still mint. Although it did get hit on the drivers door by a flying stone about two weeks after I bought it. Fortunately the dent was easily removed and there was no paint damage. Still stuck in the throat to fork out £90 so soon after buying it though. But better than leaving the dent there.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Watts on 12 October 2019, 14:47
I'd like to wash mine weekly as I love the TR which really glows when clean. But, it gets done when I can fit it in which could be anything up to 2 or even 3 monthly intervals :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Finglonga on 12 October 2019, 16:40
Washed weekly, easy job as it is ceramic coated so the dirt just falls off. Hate having a dirty car. :cry:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 12 October 2019, 17:11
There’s me thinking I was in a minority but weekly is winning at the moment. But then I guess if you’re not into cars or looking after them, you don’t buy an expensive GTI to start with!
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: king monkey on 12 October 2019, 17:22
Once a fortnight for me. Used to be once a week before kids. I reckon I spend more on car cleaning products than human cleaning products.  :grin:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Guzzle on 12 October 2019, 17:44
Probably once a month in the summer. In the winter it'll be whenever it's not dark, rainy or icy outside and i'm not at work. Can be every couple of months unless it's really filthy.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: rajb on 12 October 2019, 23:04
There’s me thinking I was in a minority but weekly is winning at the moment. But then I guess if you’re not into cars or looking after them, you don’t buy an expensive GTI to start with!

I’m once a week and at the mo have 4 to do.

You’d be surprised the amount of people who buy crazily expensive cars and still take them to the local £3 car wash.

Just one example:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/Raj328/Mobile%20Uploads/AAAA8DD1-88F6-4C47-BBD1-B99E166AF594_zps0jkvqsst.jpg) (http://s2.photobucket.com/user/Raj328/media/Mobile%20Uploads/AAAA8DD1-88F6-4C47-BBD1-B99E166AF594_zps0jkvqsst.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 12 October 2019, 23:47
Always baffles me when I see mega-expensive cars in the local scratch and swirl.

I'm that OCD I carry around a pre-mixed 1l bottle of Optimum No Rinse just in case I get a bit of bird sh!t on the car. I often clean the wheels in between washes too.

Neighbours think im weird too.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Rob_benton on 13 October 2019, 00:46
Said I’d never buy a black car again.....
On my 3rd one now.
Definitely the last.
I’m into detailing and it drives me mad when my cars dirty again hours after being washed.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: SRGTD on 13 October 2019, 05:36
Always baffles me when I see mega-expensive cars in the local scratch and swirl.

I'm that OCD I carry around a pre-mixed 1l bottle of Optimum No Rinse just in case I get a bit of bird sh!t on the car. I often clean the wheels in between washes too.

Neighbours think im weird too.

Not weird at all IMO. I’ve become immune to the predictable comments from the neighbours too - I get plenty of comments when it’s machine polishing time, which usually takes me 2-3 days to give my car ‘the works’ - wash, decontaminate, machine polish, sealant / wax, dress tyres and trim, clean glass, clean interior.

I also carry a bird poo removal kit - needed to use it just this week. Less hassle cleaning bird poo off as soon as possible after the event, rather than having to machine polish areas of etched clear coat from the acid in the bird poo if it’s left on the paintwork for too long.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 13 October 2019, 07:06
Another weird trait of mine is to avoid using my car on a Sunday if it was washed and cleaned on Saturday. Take today for example. I have a 60 mile round trip to visit family. Do I take the GTI knowing it’ll get wet & muddy or do I just take to the wife’s Polo, keeping mine in the garage?  I know it’ll get dirty on the Monday commute anyway, but it will annoy me sitting on the work car park looking like I didn’t clean it this weekend. On the other hand, I’d much rather drive the GTI than a manual 1.2 Polo!  Gah.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Toeman on 13 October 2019, 07:34
Take the gti and then give it a hose down again when u come home
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 13 October 2019, 09:20
Another weird trait of mine is to avoid using my car on a Sunday if it was washed and cleaned on Saturday. Take today for example. I have a 60 mile round trip to visit family. Do I take the GTI knowing it’ll get wet & muddy or do I just take to the wife’s Polo, keeping mine in the garage?  I know it’ll get dirty on the Monday commute anyway, but it will annoy me sitting on the work car park looking like I didn’t clean it this weekend. On the other hand, I’d much rather drive the GTI than a manual 1.2 Polo!  Gah.  :laugh:


HAHAHAAA, this is me!!!
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 13 October 2019, 09:23
This forum is quite therapeutic. I’d started to question my own sanity. It’s reassuring that I’m not alone!
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 13 October 2019, 11:47
Another weird trait of mine is to avoid using my car on a Sunday if it was washed and cleaned on Saturday. Take today for example. I have a 60 mile round trip to visit family. Do I take the GTI knowing it’ll get wet & muddy or do I just take to the wife’s Polo, keeping mine in the garage?  I know it’ll get dirty on the Monday commute anyway, but it will annoy me sitting on the work car park looking like I didn’t clean it this weekend. On the other hand, I’d much rather drive the GTI than a manual 1.2 Polo!  Gah.  :laugh:


HAHAHAAA, this is me!!!

Decision time! I’m going to take the... GTI  :evil:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Toeman on 13 October 2019, 13:31
Right one
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: ar899 on 13 October 2019, 15:38
Once a week, subject to weather. Matters not whether car is 10 months old or 10 years - same treatment.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Dr Mike Oxgreen on 13 October 2019, 19:31
This forum is quite therapeutic. I’d started to question my own sanity. It’s reassuring that I’m not alone!

No, you're just part of a Forum full of weirdos...
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Adam T7 on 14 October 2019, 10:09
If I could I would wash and wax my car every week, however weather and an ever expanding list of jobs around the house combined with building a Caterham for my mate are taking its toll on that.
When I do wash, it’s a power wash, Devils Breath on the wheels, Demon Shine foam, power wash again, wash with Meguiars Wash & Wax using 2 bucket method and then dry with a Meguiars towel and a wax with Meguiars fast wax - job done. Rain bounces off and really beads.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 14 October 2019, 21:40
I used to mess about with pressure washer, 2 bucket method etc but switched to Optimum No Rinse and their Big Red Sponge method and I'm getting better results in literally half the time and using far less water in the process. Roughly 6 months in and still no swirl marks. Felt very alien at first but I'm fully converted now.

ONR (45ml)
BRS
10l water (1 bucket)
Klin Korea drying towel

I'll pre-wash using Bilt Hamber auto-foam during winter via pump sprayer.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 October 2019, 09:14
I used to mess about with pressure washer, 2 bucket method etc but switched to Optimum No Rinse and their Big Red Sponge method and I'm getting better results in literally half the time and using far less water in the process. Roughly 6 months in and still no swirl marks. Felt very alien at first but I'm fully converted now.

ONR (45ml)
BRS
10l water (1 bucket)
Klin Korea drying towel

I'll pre-wash using Bilt Hamber auto-foam during winter via pump sprayer.

Interested to find out more about this, especially as you have a black car!
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 15 October 2019, 09:20
Have a look on YouTube - Forensic detailing Channel. He does a 40 minute review of it. I’m uncomfortable using this kind of stuff on anything other than summer pollen/rain spots.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 October 2019, 09:31
Have a look on YouTube - Forensic detailing Channel. He does a 40 minute review of it. I’m uncomfortable using this kind of stuff on anything other than summer pollen/rain spots.

Yes just been looking at the reviews/how to guides. Never seen it before and currently in between houses so at a rented property with a communal car park so no where to wash.. think this could be a great solution for me !
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 15 October 2019, 09:34
Forensic detailing is a very good channel, does some real in-depth reviews. The price of the Big Red Sponge is a bit eye-watering but its much better than messing about with loads of microfibre cloths.

I was the same as you at first Mutley but after using the 2BM for ~10 years and still getting swirl marks I thought there must be another way so I started looking into different methods on detailingworld and came across ONR. Took some balls but i finally took the plunge and I've never looked back, It's nice not having to mess about setting the pressure washer up etc, a bucket of water and a sponge, job done.

Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 15 October 2019, 09:37
Have a look on YouTube - Forensic detailing Channel. He does a 40 minute review of it. I’m uncomfortable using this kind of stuff on anything other than summer pollen/rain spots.

Yes just been looking at the reviews/how to guides. Never seen it before and currently in between houses so at a rented property with a communal car park so no where to wash.. think this could be a great solution for me !

It's perfect in your situation. Try it, but make sure you take the time to research how to use the correct method.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 15 October 2019, 09:47
What about brake dust on alloys though?
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 October 2019, 09:48
Have a look on YouTube - Forensic detailing Channel. He does a 40 minute review of it. I’m uncomfortable using this kind of stuff on anything other than summer pollen/rain spots.

Yes just been looking at the reviews/how to guides. Never seen it before and currently in between houses so at a rented property with a communal car park so no where to wash.. think this could be a great solution for me !

It's perfect in your situation. Try it, but make sure you take the time to research how to use the correct method.

Yes will take a proper look. Got a qualification in detailing 2 years ago so this goes against everything I’ve ever done or learnt. But it’s interesting to see the reviews and as you have a black car, swirls aren’t the sort of thing you can hide!
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: sjw on 15 October 2019, 09:48
ONR - if you know, you know!

Check out reddit.com/r/autodetailing
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 15 October 2019, 12:08
So how does it work on brake dust/alloys?
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 15 October 2019, 13:52
So how does it work on brake dust/alloys?

Yeah, I think the BRS would be ruined on mine currently...

(https://i.postimg.cc/sDzxRKJM/x-Gfqtee-JT-Ot-Dexy-BVgww.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QV6hQQwD)
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Watts on 15 October 2019, 14:31
(https://i.postimg.cc/sDzxRKJM/x-Gfqtee-JT-Ot-Dexy-BVgww.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QV6hQQwD)

That makes me feel so much better about my own car :whistle:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 15 October 2019, 22:09
It works on brake dust just fine but I don't use the big red sponge on my wheels, I also use a different drying towel on the wheels too. If the wheels are filthy like they are at the minute I tend to use Bilt Hamber Auto Wash. There's nothing ONR can't do, I've even used it on the interior and also the engine bay.

The one product I couldn't recommend enough is the Klin Korea drying towel. One word... GAME CHANGER!!!
The main distributor for Klin Korea is Excel Detailing based in Dinnington, Sheffield, just off jct31 M1.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: hog_hedge on 15 October 2019, 22:25
It works on brake dust just fine but I don't use the big red sponge on my wheels, I also use a different drying towel on the wheels too. If the wheels are filthy like they are at the minute I tend to use Bilt Hamber Auto Wash. There's nothing ONR can't do, I've even used it on the interior and also the engine bay.

The one product I couldn't recommend enough is the Klin Korea drying towel. One word... GAME CHANGER!!!
The main distributor for Klin Korea is Excel Detailing based in Dinnington, Sheffield, just off jct31 M1.

Is this the badger?

https://www.exceldetailingsupplies.co.uk/product-page/large-duo-drying-towel (https://www.exceldetailingsupplies.co.uk/product-page/large-duo-drying-towel)

I need a new drying towel since I washed mine with BSD soaked cloths and turned it completely hydrophobic :cry:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: andy28 on 15 October 2019, 22:31
It works on brake dust just fine but I don't use the big red sponge on my wheels, I also use a different drying towel on the wheels too. If the wheels are filthy like they are at the minute I tend to use Bilt Hamber Auto Wash. There's nothing ONR can't do, I've even used it on the interior and also the engine bay.

The one product I couldn't recommend enough is the Klin Korea drying towel. One word... GAME CHANGER!!!
The main distributor for Klin Korea is Excel Detailing based in Dinnington, Sheffield, just off jct31 M1.

Is this the badger?

https://www.exceldetailingsupplies.co.uk/product-page/large-duo-drying-towel (https://www.exceldetailingsupplies.co.uk/product-page/large-duo-drying-towel)

I need a new drying towel since I washed mine with BSD soaked cloths and turned it completely hydrophobic :cry:

Oh dear, hydrophobic drying towels aren't the best! I've got a Klin drying towel too, only used once so far but I'm impressed. CleanYourRide do them too.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 15 October 2019, 22:49
Here’s the link to the review I mentioned earlier - https://youtu.be/G4tOlMA2yXw. Goes on a bit but the guy is really good and covers everything you’d want to know.

I think I’m going to give it a go. The Polo will be used to test the water, as it were. I can see it having its uses in the summer, giving it a quick clean if it’s not particularly dirty. It could even be washed in the garage on a hot (or wet) day with this stuff. I certainly wouldn’t risk it in winter with salt and other crud on the car. I also like giving the wheel arches a good blast with the jet wash, which is an area that wouldn’t be touched at all using this method.

I’m going to place my order now and I’ll give it a go this weekend and will report back  :evil:
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 15 October 2019, 23:02
It works on brake dust just fine but I don't use the big red sponge on my wheels, I also use a different drying towel on the wheels too. If the wheels are filthy like they are at the minute I tend to use Bilt Hamber Auto Wash. There's nothing ONR can't do, I've even used it on the interior and also the engine bay.

The one product I couldn't recommend enough is the Klin Korea drying towel. One word... GAME CHANGER!!!
The main distributor for Klin Korea is Excel Detailing based in Dinnington, Sheffield, just off jct31 M1.

Is this the badger?

https://www.exceldetailingsupplies.co.uk/product-page/large-duo-drying-towel (https://www.exceldetailingsupplies.co.uk/product-page/large-duo-drying-towel)

I need a new drying towel since I washed mine with BSD soaked cloths and turned it completely hydrophobic :cry:

That's the one, I have the medium so a large will be fine.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 15 October 2019, 23:31
Big Red Sponge - https://www.motorgeek.co.uk/cgi-bin/ecom.cgi?Command=ShowProduct&db_pid=1267

ONR - https://www.motorgeek.co.uk/cgi-bin/ecom.cgi?Command=ShowProduct&db_pid=56

Klin Korea drying towel - https://www.exceldetailingsupplies.co.uk/product-page/large-duo-drying-towel

Meguiars bucket + grit guard - https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/meguiars-grit-guard-and-bucket

pump sprayer - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spear-Jackson-Action-Pressure-Sprayer/dp/B00RD0KTZQ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=L0NPDBV294N3&keywords=pressure+sprayer+5l&qid=1571177915&sprefix=pressure+spra%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-3

This is the exact setup I've been using recently.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: sjw on 16 October 2019, 10:22
Big Red Sponge - https://www.motorgeek.co.uk/cgi-bin/ecom.cgi?Command=ShowProduct&db_pid=1267

ONR - https://www.motorgeek.co.uk/cgi-bin/ecom.cgi?Command=ShowProduct&db_pid=56

Klin Korea drying towel - https://www.exceldetailingsupplies.co.uk/product-page/large-duo-drying-towel

Meguiars bucket + grit guard - https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/meguiars-grit-guard-and-bucket

pump sprayer - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Spear-Jackson-Action-Pressure-Sprayer/dp/B00RD0KTZQ/ref=sr_1_3?crid=L0NPDBV294N3&keywords=pressure+sprayer+5l&qid=1571177915&sprefix=pressure+spra%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-3

This is the exact setup I've been using recently.

Just to add - the gallon of ONR is fantastic value, it'll last for months

If you're not comfortable using a sponge over the whole car, you can use multiple towels instead. Maybe I'll give the sponge a go one day. I have a white silver so any swirls wouldn't be as noticeable as on a black car
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Mutley75 on 19 October 2019, 20:56
ONR arrived this week so gave it a try today.  I wasn't brave enough to use it as intended and in all probability, I never will.  Well, perhaps in summer when the car is just dusty rather than dirty.  The Forensic Detailing review seemed to suggest that in terms of cleaning power, it's not really a match for traditional methods and in terms of the time it takes, it isn't any quicker.  So unless access to a hose is a problem, it's probably better used for its secondary uses, which is precisely what I did.

I added a cap full to the bucket of shampoo and washed the car as normal.  The chap on Forensic Detailing was right.  It's almost like washing your car with WD40.  The wash mit just glides across the paint, minimising friction and reducing risk of scratching the paint.  It also seems to double up as a rinse aid, as when I rinsed the car afterwards the water was sheeting off as if it had just been waxed (it was last waxed about two months ago).  I didn't use my DI resin filter so it was rinsed with my exceptionally hard tap water.  There were no water spots afterwards, although it wasn't overly warm so it's difficult to tell how effective it was on that front.

I quite like it as a product - it's hugely versatile and it also smells good.  It can also be diluted and used as an interior cleaner or a quick detailer or used to clean those awkward areas where you don't necessarily want to blast jets of water, such as door hinges and the engine bay (although it's not a degreaser).  It is quite expensive (£24 including postage for 946ml) but it's used in small quantities so should last a while.  It's certainly worth a try if anyone is sitting on the fence.
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Adam T7 on 20 October 2019, 10:20
Might give that a go
Spent a very pleasant 90 minutes yesterday, power wash rinse, Dragons Breath on the wheels, Demon Foam, rinse, Meguiars Ultimate wash and wax (2 bucket method) and wax with Meguiars Gold Class Quick Wax. Looks awesome 😎
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Booth11 on 20 October 2019, 12:02
Late to this thread!  As much as I’d like to clean my car weekly or even fortnightly, life means it gets done as and when the stars align!  Sometimes it’s weekly, other times it’s weeks apart. So I’ve ticked the last option in the poll.

On the ONR topic, I bought a bottle of it a good while back, after a recommendation from another detailing enthusiast (who’s opinion I value) on another forum.  Whilst I’ve yet to do a wash with it as its intended use (the car has been very dirty come wash time and I have a fairly new Kranzle K10 pressure washer which is such fun to use that doing a almost waterless wash is a travesty, lol), I do, like Mutley75, add a capful to my shampoo bucket, and agree, it notably increases the lubricity of the shampoo and reduces friction between mitt and panel. I use a very lubricious shampoo anyway but even so, the ONR adds more and whilst it slightly knocks back suds, it’s the lubricity which is the more important thing.  Come the better weather or if the car is only mildly grubby, I’ll definitely try ONR for a full wash, but for now it has a place in the routine as a supplementary wash aid. Good stuff!   
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Booth11 on 20 October 2019, 12:03
Jimble, or JV, can you please move this thread to the Detailing Section.

Cheers.

Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: jv on 20 October 2019, 13:20
"lubricious" - amazing :grin:

Moved!
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Booth11 on 20 October 2019, 13:23
"lubricious" - amazing :grin:

Moved!

Haha! .........it’s amazing shampoo! In more ways than one!  :wink: :grin:

Thanks John. 👍
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Jim_mk7.5 on 21 October 2019, 10:30
I really need to look into the fully ONR offering as currently no hose option as inbetween houses.

My fortnightly wash method involves the local Tesco jetwash:

- Snow foam user my hand Foamer and Bilt Hamber AF and Korrosol on the wheels
- Rinse with pressure/cold shampoo
- Hot foam brush - don't touch the car but drip this over so the whole car covered in shampoo
- Wash mitt hand wash
- Cold rinse
- Dry using Aquawax and microfibres

Works pretty well and can manage it with 2 or sometimes 3 £1 credits in the machine  :smiley:

(https://i.postimg.cc/1z12bPvg/BA78D4DE-37CB-491F-B666-1A77014C5906.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RWGgHr59)
Title: Re: Cleaning your car
Post by: Ryan90GTI on 23 October 2019, 11:30
Washed mine this morning using ONR and will continue to do so throughout the winter albeit with a pre-wash using Bilt Hamber AF. I've become quite confident in the product and technique now and I'm convinced its no less harmful than using the traditional 2BM - id even go as far as saying it works better.

It's good knowing I'm saving the planet too in using less water  :grin: